lets see your import [Archive]

feuerstack411

11-01-2010, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by Wheelie
I gotta ask the import crowd as it doesn't make any sense to me.

What's with the import/tuner epidemic and the fart pipes? About half of rice grinders in my area have a muffler that has more displacement than the engine.

It's just the design that produces the most power for Japanese engines.
Go take a look at the exhaust on your quad, really is no difference.
Of course there are idiot ricers out there who think the bigger diameter tip makes more power, but theres also idiots out there who think straight pipes on a v8 makes more power than a properly tuned exhaust.

That, and its JDM as fcuk yo

stuntin andy

11-01-2010, 11:14 AM

lookin good yall

ZeroLogic

11-01-2010, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by jesseweaver
x2 haha only good vehicle that comes from japan

Right now, I'd take a Honda or Toyota over any US car makers right now.:ermm:

IRISH-RACER-14

11-01-2010, 05:53 PM

being me, id have to have the fart can, hate the sound of a stock 1.4.

ProspectorJim

11-01-2010, 08:02 PM

I have to say, If there was one import I'd have right now if I could, it would be a mk1 or mk2 gti with a 16valve 1.8l engine. They're so awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ40kPoIwRA

This thing sounds so nice.

trailrider894

11-02-2010, 10:09 AM

Subi's are the bomb!! They aren't even tuners... they ride a whole class of there own. Ricers or for punks with no money. Muscles cars will always beat ricers on the street. I have raced tons of ricers and still always won... Even a Dodge SRT4 ... a.k.a glorified dodge neon.... thing didn't even know what hit em...

Subaru's are awesome... just :eek2:

nemo25

11-02-2010, 10:14 AM

Eg civ all day

440racer66

11-02-2010, 11:14 AM

heres my import and i love my four banger quiet

k4f5x0r

11-02-2010, 05:37 PM

Gotta love that Mercedes motor ;)

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee278/irollgen4s/iphone140.jpg

ben300

11-02-2010, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by k4f5x0r
Gotta love that Mercedes motor ;)

diesel?

k4f5x0r

11-02-2010, 08:13 PM

yessir 2.8 4 cyl crd :devil:

SpasticR450

11-07-2010, 01:34 AM

:macho

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/untitled879.jpg:macho

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/654645182.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/654645188.jpg

YFZ-FoFiddy-TC

11-07-2010, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
:macho

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/untitled879.jpg:macho

Slow's Recruit. :eek:

ZeroLogic

11-07-2010, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by YFZ-FoFiddy-TC
Slow's Recruit. :eek:

Aren't you slow?:huh

250ex_dan

11-07-2010, 09:14 AM

lets not dis other people's rides please!
eVERYONE likes/hates different things on this site and you don't all have to agree.

nemo25

11-08-2010, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by 250ex_dan
lets not dis other people's rides please!
eVERYONE likes/hates different things on this site and you don't all have to agree.

lol I guess you dont know the epic tales of a member by the name of "slow"

feuerstack411

11-08-2010, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by nemo25
lol I guess you dont know the epic tales of a member by the name of "slow"

i think ive seen that eclipse before at a place called emils

YFZ-FoFiddy-TC

11-08-2010, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by ZeroLogic
Aren't you slow?:huh

Not as slow as you.

ProspectorJim

11-08-2010, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
:macho

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/untitled879.jpg:macho

was that painted with a can of spray paint?

ridered11

11-08-2010, 04:46 PM

Just picked up an IS250 i'll have to get some pics.

Mean250r

11-08-2010, 05:41 PM

Heres my import

06 M3 - Fully loaded. ZCP . red guts :devil:

pushin a bit more then 400 horse - naturally aspirated :eek2:

Get some .
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010/11/08/bikepics-2094925-full.jpg
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010/11/08/bikepics-2094927-full.jpg
http://p1.bikepics.com/pics/2010/11/08/bikepics-2094926-full.jpg

nemo25

11-08-2010, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by feuerstack411
i think ive seen that eclipse before at a place called emils

intresting I've seen a similar one in the Hewitt area but in a shop called anals.

Canadian144

11-08-2010, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Mean250r
[B]Heres my import

06 M3 - Fully loaded. ZCP . red guts :devil:

pushin a bit more then 400 horse - naturally aspirated :eek2:

Beauty lookin' M3. Love the comp. wheels (or comp style wheels). Is it an SMG or a manual?

My dad's big into older Bimmers. Has a few 2002s, and more than a few E24 6's and E28 5's. Also has a Porsche 914 (looking at getting another), a few TR6's, and 3 late 60's Cudas.

Here's a few of "our" '09 STI, some with one of the E24's. Stock for now, have an OEM foglight kit as well as a Chargespeed bottom line V2 all-around lip kit to go on in the spring.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o116/kucan14/2009%20Subaru%20STI/IMG_2329_30_31_tonemapped.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o116/kucan14/2009%20Subaru%20STI/IMG_2326_7_8_tonemapped.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o116/kucan14/2009%20Subaru%20STI/IMG_1335.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o116/kucan14/2009%20Subaru%20STI/IMG_1337.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o116/kucan14/2009%20Subaru%20STI/IMG_1336.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o116/kucan14/2009%20Subaru%20STI/IMG_0536_7_8.jpg

I'm hoping to also do an STI swap into a late 90's/early 00's Impreza GC8 coupe, once I get the cash!

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by nemo25
intresting I've seen a similar one in the Hewitt area but in a shop called anals.

Well don't be hating on the DSMs. Mine needs a engine rebuild its shot 0-60 in 0secs 1/4 in 0. The 2g DSM eclipses hold the speed records up till the 8cyl top fuel dragsters including being much faster than the worlds fastest supra and skyline and the worlds fastest eclipse could be much faster but can't because weight/power rules including FWD, RWD, & AWD and AUTO & MANUAL for the records 2g eclipses hold, it's the #1 top tuner car when it comes to world records.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/brent_rau.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/Rau_Burnout.jpg

trailrider894

11-12-2010, 07:56 AM

here is what i hate though, those " Eclipse" drag cars are not true eclipses... I mean come on. Nothing on them is stock from an eclipse. Just the mangled body style for the fiberglass or carbon fiber. Unless its a true street-strip dragster it can't be called by its real name.

remix92

11-12-2010, 01:42 PM

clearly based on the fact that the dsm he posted is rear wheel drive and if it was a true eclipse it would be awd or fwd

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by remix92
clearly based on the fact that the dsm he posted is rear wheel drive and if it was a true eclipse it would be awd or fwd

Well it's simple to make the eclipse/evo RWD. 3 ways to but the simple way to is weld the center diff and then your RWD.

CJM

11-12-2010, 06:25 PM

that is so far removed from stock that i agree you cannot call it an eclipse.

I hate dsm anyways, stupid crankwalk and dumb engineering on alot of them..no thanks.

Also, gimme a break they are all that and record holders.

Whats under the hood of that dragster?

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 06:56 PM

CJM

11-12-2010, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
4cyl 4g63 turbo which comes from factory. Evo also uses the 4g63 turbo engine. Crank walk don't happen but can but don't happen to most.

It's a eclipse race car and put against other race cars such as skyline, supra, dodge viper and so on the eclipse puts down better times and with restrictions that slow it down.

Sure, but its still not stock. I can make 800+ hp on a supra or skyline or even a civic if I wanted to, but then its not a driver its a drag car.

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by CJM
Sure, but its still not stock. I can make 800+ hp on a supra or skyline or even a civic if I wanted to, but then its not a driver its a drag car.

Well on the 4g63 engine you can have a good 500hp or more as a pump gas street car and the stock rods/pistons can handle up to 500hp

Who says it's not a street car it is on the road haha
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trailrider894

11-12-2010, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by CJM
that is so far removed from stock that i agree you cannot call it an eclipse.

I hate dsm anyways, stupid crankwalk and dumb engineering on alot of them..no thanks.

Also, gimme a break they are all that and record holders.

Whats under the hood of that dragster?

Not an Engine from an Eclipse... Obviously top fuel engines, those are pushing thousands of hp not 100 something like a stock eclipse... Muscles cars eat ricers, its just a fact. You can agrue you can fight or whatever you want, but i'll line up in my car that weighs as much as your eclipse, but the differnce will be that you have maybe 200 something on a modified engine and i have 300+hp out of a small block with only bolt on mods. ha ha with 2:53 rear end gears, i will still own all of you street ricers. If you own a Skyline or Supra, you might have a fair chance, but to the rest of you, pshhh...

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
Not an Engine from an Eclipse... Obviously top fuel engines, those are pushing thousands of hp not 100 something like a stock eclipse... Muscles cars eat ricers, its just a fact. You can agrue you can fight or whatever you want, but i'll line up in my car that weighs as much as your eclipse, but the differnce will be that you have maybe 200 something on a modified engine and i have 300+hp out of a small block with only bolt on mods. ha ha with 2:53 rear end gears, i will still own all of you street ricers. If you own a Skyline or Supra, you might have a fair chance, but to the rest of you, pshhh...

210hp stock and basicaly with only a boost controler its a 12 sec car like a dodge viper is. One funny thing is a lot of people have old V8 cars and think there big and bad and faster when a stock 4 banger eclipse makes almost 100hp more than them from factory like the old corvettes and camaros V8 but the stock 4 banger eclipse/talon/laser/evo has a lot more power stock. And what you meen not a engine from an eclipse? That drag eclipse has a eclipse engine 4g63t used in eclipses and evos and talons and lasers

trailrider894

11-12-2010, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
210hp stock and basicaly with only a boost controler its a 12 sec car like a dodge viper is. One funny thing is a lot of people have old V8 cars and think there big and bad and faster when a stock 4 banger eclipse makes almost 100hp more than them from factory like the old corvettes and camaros V8 but the stock 4 banger eclipse/talon/laser/evo has a lot more power stock. And what you meen not a engine from an eclipse? That drag eclipse has a eclipse engine 4g63t used in eclipses and evos and talons and lasers

Okay dude.... than drive up to missouri and we will have a go at it at Gateway. BTW burnouts in front wheel drive tuners are weak... lol i am done hatin now, i own a subi.

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
Okay dude.... than drive up to missouri and we will have a go at it at Gateway. BTW burnouts in front wheel drive tuners are weak... lol i am done hatin now, i own a subi.

Subi, eclipse, and evo are all in the same group for performance. And eclipses come FWD or AWD or made into RWD.

ProspectorJim

11-12-2010, 09:58 PM

no matter how much HP it's putting out, it's still a chicks car.

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by ProspectorJim
no matter how much HP it's putting out, it's still a chicks car.

That's a dumb thing to say.

trailrider894

11-12-2010, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
That's a dumb thing to say.

Ricers are stereo typed as punks who smoke weed and can't afford real cars so they mod cheap ones. People who drive muscle cars tend to come from a tougher side of life. Our dads usually had them, i just wonder what when wrong in your childhood to make you like them so much. BTW Subaru's are NOT ricers or tuners, Impreza, WRX, STI are rally cars. they don't belong in the same category.

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 10:52 PM

Canadian144

11-12-2010, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
Eclipse and evo are both used in rally to. And cheepest you normally find a 4g63t eclipse for is 5k 10-20 years old. From factory eclipse evo and the subarus all perform about the same power wise and all are awd. In the 4 banger world the 4g63t is top dog and has all the records and happen to all be the 4g63t eclipse.

Eclipses are NOT used in rally. Evos yes, but eclipses no.

I'd take a Scoob over a Mitsu any day....

trailrider894

11-12-2010, 11:01 PM

Some more factory facts on the table here, All American Muscle VS. All Foreign Tuner

Eclipse GSX: AWD model equipped with a 210 hp (160 kW) turbocharged 2.0 L 16-valve DOHC Mitsubishi 4G63 engine

VS.

Trans AM WS-6: RWD equipped with a 325hp (242kW) 5.7l LS1.

Those are just stock. I picked the best of both models of cars.

Even if you dumped tons of money into the eclipse, doing all kinds of things, not to mention your RETARTED park benches you put on the back of your car to increase down force, ha ha NOT, a turbo charged LS1 or LT1 will still walk on you. Ha ha not to mention i have seen guys with turbo charged LS1 and basic bolt-on's running near 500hp. Those engines will make !!!hp easy...

I mean you guys just have to face the facts, the people who own modern and even classic muscle cars can make faster cars way cheaper and way more reliable than tuners.

I will bow down to tuners in one area... Handling, muscle cars just don't it in this area. :/ my subi does 90mph around corners that my Monza won't even go 50mph around. AWD=AMAZING, only in subaru's though, MITSU never figured it out just right.

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by Canadian144
Eclipses are NOT used in rally. Evos yes, but eclipses no.

I'd take a Scoob over a Mitsu any day....

Eclipse and evo = same engine and both awd. Not used in rally? Yes they are. The reason you see evo and subis is because there still being made. The DSM eclipse stopped being made almost 11 years ago so your not going to see them as much but the eclipse does just as good as the rest. Most rally eclipses are 1g and I think it's because the 2g has less ground clearance around 4" if that factory.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/DSM/teamvartan1.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/DSM/gorman97-jmplg.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/DSM/garcialasersprstg2.jpg

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
Some more factory facts on the table here, All American Muscle VS. All Foreign Tuner

Eclipse GSX: AWD model equipped with a 210 hp (160 kW) turbocharged 2.0 L 16-valve DOHC Mitsubishi 4G63 engine

VS.

Trans AM WS-6: RWD equipped with a 325hp (242kW) 5.7l LS1.

Those are just stock. I picked the best of both models of cars.

Even if you dumped tons of money into the eclipse, doing all kinds of things, not to mention your RETARTED park benches you put on the back of your car to increase down force, ha ha NOT, a turbo charged LS1 or LT1 will still walk on you. Ha ha not to mention i have seen guys with turbo charged LS1 and basic bolt-on's running near 500hp. Those engines will make !!!hp easy...

I mean you guys just have to face the facts, the people who own modern and even classic muscle cars can make faster cars way cheaper and way more reliable than tuners.

I will bow down to tuners in one area... Handling, muscle cars just don't it in this area. :/ my subi does 90mph around corners that my Monza won't even go 50mph around. AWD=AMAZING, only in subaru's though, MITSU never figured it out just right.

Well how about a chev 454 eclipse lol?
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Pipeless416

11-12-2010, 11:26 PM

anybody ever seen an s2000 with an ls3 swap? thats like having a 400+hp go cart :devil:

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by Pipeless416
anybody ever seen an s2000 with an ls3 swap? thats like having a 400+hp go cart :devil:

I think the S2000 with the 2jz-gte swap is sweeter. Cheeper lighter faster :macho

Pipeless416

11-12-2010, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
I think the S2000 with the 2jz-gte swap is sweeter. Cheeper lighter faster :macho

yea, i think i've seen that somewhere..

SpasticR450

11-12-2010, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by Pipeless416
yea, i think i've seen that somewhere..

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trailrider894

11-13-2010, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
Well how about a chev 454 eclipse lol?
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Well, that would be someone who wishes they had the power of a MUSCLE CAR engine. So they put in a a crappy tuner.... that is the DUMBEST thing i have ever seen.

feuerstack411

11-13-2010, 12:48 PM

Attention Mods:

SpasticR450 is "Slow", can we have a forum vote to IP ban him?

TCracin440ex

11-13-2010, 12:54 PM

you guys arguing with spastic450 about imports and what not is like pissing in the wind. he will never get it. he will defend his mitsu*****i and imports til the end of time

some people never learn that imports will never stack up to an american made car. hell even my younger brother used to be all into hondas and shyt. he sold it and bought a ls1 camaro ss and he said F**K IMPORTS. ill never own another one unless its for economy and daily driving.

trailrider894

11-13-2010, 05:47 PM

you prove a good point. I will leave it at i think he should come up to Gateway International and THEN i will prove to him that he is truly an idiot. I guess this argument is over then?

beastlywarrior

11-13-2010, 08:16 PM

lol just leave it be we all have our own tastes in cars, i love big trucks but yet i still like turbo cobalts. it doesnt matter whats faster, its that your having enjoyment out of it

btw who's slow

nemo25

11-14-2010, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
Well don't be hating on the DSMs. Mine needs a engine rebuild its shot 0-60 in 0secs 1/4 in 0. The 2g DSM eclipses hold the speed records up till the 8cyl top fuel dragsters including being much faster than the worlds fastest supra and skyline and the worlds fastest eclipse could be much faster but can't because weight/power rules including FWD, RWD, & AWD and AUTO & MANUAL for the records 2g eclipses hold, it's the #1 top tuner car when it comes to world records.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/brent_rau.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/Rau_Burnout.jpg

Lol Eclipses are total POS's. THey look terrible and have terrible motors. Overall their crap. This is coming from an Evo owner. As much as I <3 Evo's I'm ashamed to admit it comes from the same family as the eclipse. And yes they are girl cars just like V6 mustangs and no they dont rally eclipses. AND btw your eclipse looks like sh*t but that seems to be normal among eclipses

trick450r

11-14-2010, 09:09 AM

Eclipses suck. However I feel like im going to drown in the ignorance in this thread. If you drive a stock ls1 and think that you'll beat every gsx that comes along, your an idiot! they can be fast...and sometimes, just every once in a blue moon they even run long enough to beat your american muscle! believe it! I once saw a 4g63t make it an entire 1/4 mile before blowing up, it was simply amazing. Truely a once in a lifetime experience!

On a serious note, I dont care what you drive their is someone with a streetable jap pos that will beat you, and their is someone with a streetable muscle car that will beat you. plain and simple.

416exfreak

11-14-2010, 10:38 AM

Eclipses seem to be more of a ricer car.. Most people go the pep boys route with them.

A nicely done import, even a honda like FLEWBYU352 used to have are acceptable. IMHO, if you want to own and modify an import, you should go the tuner route and really do it right..

Like an S13 240SX with an RB25DET swap from a Skyline:p

Hondamaster5505

11-14-2010, 02:08 PM

Anybody else notice slow keeps talking about all these drag car eclipses?

As far as im concerned, the silver eclipse he used to own was only a 420a, non-turbo, 140hp PIECE OF CRAP.

And im pretty sure that white one is the same car painted different.

feuerstack411

11-14-2010, 03:19 PM

hondariderdylan

11-14-2010, 03:29 PM

How many times are we going to play the imports suck game around here?

The OP said to show off your imports, not argue over them.
I love american cars as much as the next guy but i can also accept someone elses interest

nemo25

11-15-2010, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by feuerstack411
This statement is equally as stupid and ignorant as anything that Slow has ever said.

haha are fathers come from rough childhoods so they drive muscle cars hahahahah epic epic epic I guess my dad had it real easy because he drives a civic.

SpasticR450

11-21-2010, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by Hondamaster5505
Anybody else notice slow keeps talking about all these drag car eclipses?

As far as im concerned, the silver eclipse he used to own was only a 420a, non-turbo, 140hp PIECE OF CRAP.

And im pretty sure that white one is the same car painted different.

I have a Talon TSI AWD with a 95 eclipse rear end and 97 eclipse front end and fenders off last car. 2k Racing hart rims and nanking tires it's a track set up not drag and some little other things around 250awd at stock boost.:ermm:

SpasticR450

11-21-2010, 01:37 AM

It's sad how people can hate on a car that stock will beat most stock V8s. Your old camaro or corvette aint putting out even close to what a DSM does stock don't that suck for you red necks with your old V8s with your loud exhausts????? Whos a ricer? A stock DSM with a performance exhaust or an old rusty stock loud pos V8 that makes 120hp and cant touch a 210+ stock hp 4cyl car? Worst thing is that an even n/a DSM makes more hp than the old chev V8s that the red necks think are nascars! Don't matter if you got a old pos V6 or pos V8 camaro it makes a V8 sound nice but that 4cyl dsm with out even a turbo is making more power! Ppl can talk crap post wat you drive. Not many if any will have what can beat a stock dsm.

If only hondas, 4cyls, and v8s could perform this way from factory like DSMs. Idiots can hate on em not like it will stop them from wooping your *** STOCK. DSM STOCK vid. Nothing touches. And just to let the chalanged ones know missing the windows is not what makes it so fast its called factory horse power...

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SpasticR450

11-21-2010, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by trailrider894
Ricers are stereo typed as punks who smoke weed and can't afford real cars so they mod cheap ones. People who drive muscle cars tend to come from a tougher side of life. Our dads usually had them, i just wonder what when wrong in your childhood to make you like them so much. BTW Subaru's are NOT ricers or tuners, Impreza, WRX, STI are rally cars. they don't belong in the same category.

Well then when them DSMs fly past you, you can rase your fist and say you damn dope heads!

Ricer lost all its meaning long time ago because idiots. What a ricer started out as was some one who had a slow car n acted like it was fast and tried to make it look fast by buying hub caps instead of rims, buys a fart can instead of a full fart can exhaust, uses stickers, spray paint, fake things such as fake sticker side exhausts, unpainted body kits most looking gay to, and so on. But the word got so bad from total idiots that now you need to eather look slow with a fast engine to be cool and fast. If your fast and look fast your a ricer now. Your eather a sleaper or a ricer now cause idiots with slow V8s. Im glad to say that my stock I4 DSM will walk all over your old pos V8 with your loud exhaust. :macho :D

SpasticR450

11-21-2010, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by nemo25
intresting I've seen a similar one in the Hewitt area but in a shop called anals.

Wow no way that's crazy dude I thought I seen your face splatterd on the side walk around there to but it was just bird sh*t. :eek:

SpasticR450

11-21-2010, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by 416exfreak
Eclipses seem to be more of a ricer car.. Most people go the pep boys route with them.

A nicely done import, even a honda like FLEWBYU352 used to have are acceptable. IMHO, if you want to own and modify an import, you should go the tuner route and really do it right..

Like an S13 240SX with an RB25DET swap from a Skyline:p

Your right eclipses suck. What about the eclipse gs? rs? gst? gsx? what about the talons and lasers?

Every thing is better than an eclipse only problem is they hold the records! haha:macho Dem ****in DSms always causing an argument haha lmao.

Hondamaster5505

11-21-2010, 07:52 AM

I love how you keep referring to the old 70's emmisioned down muscle cars. It's not like they're that low of power because they suck, it's because emissions at the time killed them.

Throw on a 4bbl, raise up the compression with some heads that also flow better, and remove all the emissions and bingo.

If you're referring to 4th gen camaro's firebirds, then im pretty sure 275hp 325tq LT1's are more then your car, and 325hp 340tq LS1's are more then your car.

feuerstack411

11-21-2010, 08:34 AM

ATTENTION EVERYONE: LET THIS THREAD DIE. STOP GIVING SLOW ATTENTION

ProspectorJim

11-21-2010, 10:13 AM

How many DSM's are currently in production?

BlaineKaiser450

11-21-2010, 10:40 AM

trailrider894

11-21-2010, 03:14 PM

Spastic, your not doing your re-search... nothing like having an argument with someone who doesn't know anything about their opponent. lol :) Even a stock R Code GM Small Block 350 that has been butchered by 90's emissions still makes 200+ HP. Do you re-search then come back with a legit argument, but until them forget it.

kfx400rider03

11-21-2010, 06:29 PM

i scanned through this thread really quick and didnt see one post by "flewbyyou" i think that was his name or did he make a new name? sorry been a couple months sense i was on here

CJM

11-21-2010, 07:16 PM

Who cares, dont even bother replying as its not worth the argument.

jesseweaver

11-21-2010, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by Mean250r
Heres my import

06 M3 - Fully loaded. ZCP . red guts :devil:

pushin a bit more then 400 horse - naturally aspirated :eek2:

Get some .

i love that car but i still hate you for selling your cobra!

wckedclownz69

11-22-2010, 01:47 AM

I prefer trucks...

stuntin andy

11-22-2010, 10:06 AM

damn yall just respect others interests. If you want to go and bash Tuners go and make a Domestic thread. This thread is for tuner enthusiasts, so if your so ignorant about your Domestic cars talk **** some where else. Real Tuner guys know about cars and will RESPECT a well built Domestic car.

stuntin andy

11-22-2010, 10:08 AM

More recent picture of my car.

stuntin andy

11-22-2010, 10:16 AM

SpasticR450 im digging that eclipse

ProspectorJim

11-22-2010, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by stuntin andy
damn yall just respect others interests. If you want to go and bash Tuners go and make a Domestic thread. This thread is for tuner enthusiasts, so if your so ignorant about your Domestic cars talk **** some where else. Real Tuner guys know about cars and will RESPECT a well built Domestic car.

technically this thread is dealing with imports not "tuners". A tuner can be a domestic or import ,as tuning can be done to any car.

Anyway, Anyone got a VW? I've been on the search for an old rabbit gti or a corrado for awhile now.

beastlywarrior

11-22-2010, 09:31 PM

love that civic, its clean

Rootar

11-23-2010, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by ProspectorJim
Anyway, Anyone got a VW? .

i love my jetta, its a 02 TDI gls w/gti recaro seats, koni fsds front and rear, shine sway bar, BBS wheels with new yokos, over christmas break its getting pp764 nozzles, diesel geek race pipe/egr delete, dg short shift kit, kerma tune, and a full exhaust.

SpasticR450

11-24-2010, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by ProspectorJim
How many DSM's are currently in production?

Evo being #1 being made. How about you ask how many DSMs are wooping hick ***? MOST. The elcipse might be about 12 years old but the updated evo still cant put down a better time than it even thow they both have 4g63 turbo engines.

Wat about the fact these engines can handle 500hp stock and cheep while your heavy as hell 350 blows at 400...... or what ever?:blah:

SpasticR450

11-24-2010, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by Hondamaster5505
I love how you keep referring to the old 70's emmisioned down muscle cars. It's not like they're that low of power because they suck, it's because emissions at the time killed them.

Throw on a 4bbl, raise up the compression with some heads that also flow better, and remove all the emissions and bingo.

If you're referring to 4th gen camaro's firebirds, then im pretty sure 275hp 325tq LT1's are more then your car, and 325hp 340tq LS1's are more then your car.

Emissions them damn catalytic converters the prob about removing them is most people with V8s that do live in the swamp so when they do that they run lean and over heat the engine. And even if you have a good flowing exhause and good jetted carb your still slow with out a full rebuild or engine swap.

How about the 1jz or 2jz. 300hp 300tq stock. 67mm turbo kit $1400 with engine being 1700 thats if 2jz. Now 9 psi is 330hp. but once u upgrade the fuel rails and injectors $300 and pumps n what not also head gaskit for $200 and apr head studs $100 guess what? 30psi 650hp min. Cams 700hp. ON PUMP GAS

416exfreak

11-24-2010, 05:22 AM

Spastic, you are one of the most ignorant people i believe has ever disgraced this forum with your presence..

Anything can be made fast, but youre underestimating (to the extreme) what a small block V8 can do, and what they can handle. Ive seen small block strokers (less than 350CI) built around a FACTORY 2 bolt main block, hold upwards of 750hp on PUMP GAS that can be driven daily on the street, and still run low 9's in the quarter mile on a 10" wide DOT legal drag radial.

Youre steady talking all this smack about V8's, which leads me to believe you got butthurt by one (or more) at a stoplight. I can promise you that if you ever pulled up next to me in my '79, you would be putting ice on your bruised uterus for weeks.

Dollar for dollar, and mod for mod, a V8 will ALWAYS make more power and torque than a 4 cylinder. There really is no replacement for displacement.

And as far as your claim of the Eclipse holding the world records.. thats a full tube-chassis, purpose built drag car.. its good for NOTHING but running a quarter of a mile and being towed back to the pits to have a whole menagerie of work done to it so it can repeat the process.

Show me a factory chassis car, with stock style suspension and a DOT legal tire thats setting records, and I will retract everything I have said.

Until then, this is some food for thought.
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Yea, that cobra just whooped that eclipse.:chinese:

trailrider894

11-24-2010, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by 416exfreak
Spastic, you are one of the most ignorant people i believe has ever disgraced this forum with your presence..

Anything can be made fast, but youre underestimating (to the extreme) what a small block V8 can do, and what they can handle. Ive seen small block strokers (less than 350CI) built around a FACTORY 2 bolt main block, hold upwards of 750hp on PUMP GAS that can be driven daily on the street, and still run low 9's in the quarter mile on a 10" wide DOT legal drag radial.

Youre steady talking all this smack about V8's, which leads me to believe you got butthurt by one (or more) at a stoplight. I can promise you that if you ever pulled up next to me in my '79, you would be putting ice on your bruised uterus for weeks.

Dollar for dollar, and mod for mod, a V8 will ALWAYS make more power and torque than a 4 cylinder. There really is no replacement for displacement.

And as far as your claim of the Eclipse holding the world records.. thats a full tube-chassis, purpose built drag car.. its good for NOTHING but running a quarter of a mile and being towed back to the pits to have a whole menagerie of work done to it so it can repeat the process.

Show me a factory chassis car, with stock style suspension and a DOT legal tire thats setting records, and I will retract everything I have said.

Until then, this is some food for thought.
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Yea, that cobra just whooped that eclipse.:chinese: \]

Ha ha amen...

CJM

11-24-2010, 09:16 AM

hehehe... nice one freak!

trick450r

11-24-2010, 10:51 AM

Ppl can talk crap post wat you drive. Not many if any will have what can beat a stock dsm.

I spray more horsepower in nitrous oxide than your dsm makes? :rolleyes:

stuntin andy

11-24-2010, 11:57 AM

Freak show me a vid of a car setting records with a stock tire... i honestly have never seen it...

and i dont think spastic is saying domestic cars are slow... just they aren't as fast as they should be. I know in my civic i woop up on 5.0 fox body's, and my civic only has bolt ons. And if you think about it im not even half the horse power or torq, import guys like to stand up for them self because they are the under dogs look below.

import muscle

4cyl 8cyl
1.6/2.2l 5.0l +
low torq high torq
low horse high horse

and videos don't mean any thing lol this is stock vs stock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OBCRm_7di0

eclipse wins..

CJM

11-24-2010, 12:02 PM

This whole argument reminds me again why I like trucks..no bs arguing about whose faster, just who can out drive ya offroad.

06typeS

11-24-2010, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by stuntin andy
[B]Freak show me a vid of a car setting records with a stock tire... i honestly have never seen it...

and i dont think spastic is saying domestic cars are slow... just they aren't as fast as they should be. I know in my civic i woop up on 5.0 fox body's, and my civic only has bolt ons. And if you think about it im not even half the horse power or torq, import guys like to stand up for them self because they are the under dogs look below.

import muscle

4cyl 8cyl
1.6/2.2l 5.0l +
low torq high torq
low horse high horse

I have drove both, a 96 mustang GT with bolt on's and 100 NX. Now i have 2006 Acura Rsx type s

Realize if you are beating guys in your civic against guys in 5.0 stangs then its coming down to the driver.

Even with bolt on figure you might be putting down 170hp at the wheels at best. The mustang should put down around 185 hp stock.

granted 15 hp isn't a huge difference but the tq numebrs are going to be with a v-8 vs 4 cyl.

Not to say your car is slow or add fuel to the fire. Just saying your a better driver in your civic then the guy in the mustang.

Winning is winning no matter how it happens, somtimes driver skills out weight horse power

CJM

11-24-2010, 12:18 PM

I had a thought, many of you guys have imports and claim they are fast. Yes they are fast in relative terms-but I would like to see you beat some of the cars I have helped/built.

Heres a good one: take a 1981 camaro, drop in a worked 350 LT-1 (not to be confused with the later engine of the same designation) and put a 4 speed init, lower it, add a worked suspension and such.

My buddy who I worked on this with built chevy engines for over 25+ years and knows every single trick imaginable. This car was so fast that it was wrecked once, the drivetrain was sold off to someone else then wrecked again, and finally it lives on in a 1989 camaro. Nobody can seem to handle it, the current owner pretty much takes out and babies it cause he fears he will wreck like everyone else.

Am I talking out of my rear-nope, this would eat your modified imports alive and then some. Ever seen racing on tv, you see the frontends lift up like crazy-this car would do it. On the dyno it made 482hp and over 500lbs of torque to the wheels.

Better yet, want to know how easy it was to build? No fuel injection, no computers, no turbos or superchargers, no nothing but an engine, trans and carb and it would run like a raped ape.

Another buddy was on pinks all out with his done up chevy nova, it had a 396 and was making tons of power. It is a 9 second car-will your civic or eclipse match that with less than 5k into it?

Dont go bashing V8's, im sure the little 4 and 6 bangers can be made workable but the downside is most are FWD and blow cv axles (I seen it and find it funny and sad-all that power and you cant really use it), a V8 is simply the best platform, specially a chevy v8. How can you argue that stock you can get one that makes over 300hp? How much would you have to add to the 4 or 6cyl to even get close? What about a truck that weighs literally 2x or more as your car that can beat ya?

416exfreak

11-24-2010, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by stuntin andy
Freak show me a vid of a car setting records with a stock tire... i honestly have never seen it...

Read my post again, I never said anything about a stock tire. I said a stock chassis car, meaning built around the chassis it rolled off the showroom with (no tube frames), and stock style suspension (meaning no 4 link cars, they utilize factory style control arms) and a DOT legal tire.

Here you go, this a prime example of what I'm talking about.. lets see an one of those 4g63 powered cars do this, under all the above rules.

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Im not attacking imports, just trying make Spastic realize how ignorant he is (even though im pretty sure he's SLOW, come back for some more..)

stuntin andy

11-24-2010, 03:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6128kbBvvV8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdYygUKpXhk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzAflmLPFgg

i cant find any civics because they need slicks. when they hit vtec all they do is spin ide know =D but here is a stock body cars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PobFcq0RUdI

and my car makes no where near 170 horse power maby only like 130? isshhh

FHKracingZ

11-24-2010, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by CJM
I had a thought, many of you guys have imports and claim they are fast. Yes they are fast in relative terms-but I would like to see you beat some of the cars I have helped/built.

Heres a good one: take a 1981 camaro, drop in a worked 350 LT-1 (not to be confused with the later engine of the same designation) and put a 4 speed init, lower it, add a worked suspension and such.

My buddy who I worked on this with built chevy engines for over 25+ years and knows every single trick imaginable. This car was so fast that it was wrecked once, the drivetrain was sold off to someone else then wrecked again, and finally it lives on in a 1989 camaro. Nobody can seem to handle it, the current owner pretty much takes out and babies it cause he fears he will wreck like everyone else.

Am I talking out of my rear-nope, this would eat your modified imports alive and then some. Ever seen racing on tv, you see the frontends lift up like crazy-this car would do it. On the dyno it made 482hp and over 500lbs of torque to the wheels.

Better yet, want to know how easy it was to build? No fuel injection, no computers, no turbos or superchargers, no nothing but an engine, trans and carb and it would run like a raped ape.

Another buddy was on pinks all out with his done up chevy nova, it had a 396 and was making tons of power. It is a 9 second car-will your civic or eclipse match that with less than 5k into it?

Dont go bashing V8's, im sure the little 4 and 6 bangers can be made workable but the downside is most are FWD and blow cv axles (I seen it and find it funny and sad-all that power and you cant really use it), a V8 is simply the best platform, specially a chevy v8. How can you argue that stock you can get one that makes over 300hp? How much would you have to add to the 4 or 6cyl to even get close? What about a truck that weighs literally 2x or more as your car that can beat ya?

Im staying out of this but you said 4 cylinders cant make near 300hp w/o adders? How bout the honda s2000 with 240hp n/a and the highest hp/ liter of any motor made.

And if you think you are pulling the front wheels on any car with 425hp your high as hell. It takes way more than that to pull the front end, and you for sure aint pulling the front end on any car on the street unless you prep the surface via vht or some other traction adder.

I love muscle cars and imports alike, the reason younger kids build imports is the price, hell you can buy a used Honda block in good shape for $100.

Hondamaster5505

11-24-2010, 03:42 PM

Listening to you import-driving domestic-hating completely mis-informed people makes me want to puke.

If bolt-on civics are so fast, then how come I WALKED past my friends B18 swapped civic like it was standing still? He actually has quite a bit of bolt-ons.

Hell, back before I had my license, me and my dad would race ricer civics in our 01 grand cherokee and used to beat them constantly.

stuntin andy

11-24-2010, 03:46 PM

^ cool story bro what kind of car do you have?

stuntin andy

11-24-2010, 03:46 PM

^ cool story bro what kind of car do you have?

Hondamaster5505

11-24-2010, 03:49 PM

Just a bone stock 93 6-speed firebird. nothing special. even stock intake and exhaust.
and a bad 2nd gear synchro.

He was actually racing my other friends supra, so I stayed behind the supra and kinda joined in. Went right by his civic lol

Hondamaster5505

11-24-2010, 03:51 PM

Don't get me wrong, I love all cars. I give respect to well thought out and well-built civics. And ones like yours which are clean and not all riced.

BUT, that being said, I honestly don't find bolt on civics that impressive. they need boooostt

stuntin andy

11-24-2010, 04:00 PM

see i like all well done cars, i just hate when people think that imports are the slowest thing on the earth. You can make any car fast.

this geo almost beat a mustang...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY8zzMQUgu0

and honda im not impressed with bolt on civics either... the only reason mine is bolt on is because its about to be rebuilt and im saving up. and my buddy has a lt1 camaro that i can keep up with... =o

Hondamaster5505

11-24-2010, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by stuntin andy
see i like all well done cars, i just hate when people think that imports are the slowest thing on the earth. You can make any car fast.

this geo almost beat a mustang...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY8zzMQUgu0

and honda im not impressed with bolt on civics either... the only reason mine is bolt on is because its about to be rebuilt and im saving up. and my buddy has a lt1 camaro that i can keep up with... =o

Sorry I just don't believe that. Unless you are a complete PRO at driving, and the camaro gave you a 5 second head start.

I've driven multiple civics, and raced multiple civics. They will NOT keep up with most v8 sports cars unless you have some crazy race motor and don't realize it.

CJM

11-24-2010, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by FHKracingZ
Im staying out of this but you said 4 cylinders cant make near 300hp w/o adders? How bout the honda s2000 with 240hp n/a and the highest hp/ liter of any motor made.
I shoulda been more specific, but a s2000 is not a typical fwd import now is it? Its a high performance RWD sports car-not your run of the mill civic or eclipse.

And if you think you are pulling the front wheels on any car with 425hp your high as hell. It takes way more than that to pull the front end, and you for sure aint pulling the front end on any car on the street unless you prep the surface via vht or some other traction adder.

Wanna bet? Dont need insane powe to pull the front end up, what takes care of it in a rwd car is torque and a rearend gear ratio that can use it, such as 4.11 (most popular). Go watch the tv show pinks and tell me it doesnt happen. Most of the cars have between 400-600hp on that show and do it all the time. Im not saying it lifts the car up like its going out of style but its up definitely.

In the end there is no denying there are some fast imports and domestics out there. But built right a V8 is much better overall. When you start really adding power to them fwd cars the cv axle snaps and your left in the dust.

Plus imagine it like this: you buy a civic and dump tons of cash into it and its a 13 second car. You buy a v8 camaro or stand, add a cam, gears, do some minor work and you got 12 second car easy.

I live literally 10 mins from the local track, trust me I seen it happen tons of times. Its a real shame cause the rwd car just keeps on going and the fwd gotta be pushed or pulled off. They have an annual import vs domestic every few months.

stuntin andy

11-24-2010, 04:22 PM

yah honda lol he gets me top end of course but i can keep up with him.... his 0-60 isn't much faster then mine

stuntin andy

11-24-2010, 04:59 PM

cjm... tisk tisk tisk lol you make it sound like all they do is break cv's. if the owner of the car had some common since they will upgrade them look

i saw this pass in real life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UVUMt6Ubh0

and people dont put alot of money into them...im going ot break it down to the best of my knowledge

import

ok lets break it down like this. i bought my civic for 1600 so thats the start a 1600 dollar CIVIC

a cheap ebay turbo kit
200.00
ebay turbo kit manifolds are **** so we want a new one right?!?!
275.00
Bov
200
I.C piping
145.00
Fuel management
90.00
misc.
57.00
lets add it up
200.00
275.00
200.00
190.00
145.00
075.00
090.00
057.50
020.00
=1212.50
plus the car is

$2800

and thats a nice set up! still getting good gas mileage

domestic

i went on cl and typed in "camaro" and this is came up first (thats not like a 60's or 70's)

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/ctd/2077692121.html

the car $5000

so lets see i have 2800 in my car lets do a little more to get them around even in price

rods
350.00
pistons
370.00
clutch
246 lets round it to 250.00
LSD
350.00
i got rims and tires for my car for
300.00
carbon fiver hood for the hell of it
560.00
fuzzy dice
20.00

thats 5 grand

so lets see what we have.. a STOCK camaro with a 5.7 350 auto

civic
built motor turbocharged
carbon fiver hood
fuzzy dice

:bandit:

now you see why my friends

:macho :macho :D

Pipeless416

11-24-2010, 05:33 PM

why don't we just add a domestic thread..?:macho

stuntin andy

11-24-2010, 05:44 PM

i already suggested it they wont=\

Pipeless416

11-24-2010, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by stuntin andy
i already suggested it they wont=\

then i will. lots of hard heads on both sides of the argument... hopefully this will take some of the tension out.

stuntin andy

11-24-2010, 05:57 PM

i hope im sure import dudes wont flame it

CJM

11-24-2010, 05:58 PM

Andy, I keep forgetting not many have access to what I do and the knowhow to do the work. Saves alot of cash.

Must suck not to have a shop and knowledge and tools at your disposal.

trailrider894

11-24-2010, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by CJM
Andy, I keep forgetting not many have access to what I do and the knowhow to do the work. Saves alot of cash.

Must suck not to have a shop and knowledge and tools at your disposal.

ha ha agreed. I got my small block 350 for free and picked up an old Monza Spyder for 200 bucks on CL... So about 3,000 later i am rolling on a 2700 pound car with 300+ HP. Besides who puts cheap turbos on a car anyway.... Losers...

SpasticR450

11-25-2010, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by stuntin andy
Freak show me a vid of a car setting records with a stock tire... i honestly have never seen it...

and i dont think spastic is saying domestic cars are slow... just they aren't as fast as they should be. I know in my civic i woop up on 5.0 fox body's, and my civic only has bolt ons. And if you think about it im not even half the horse power or torq, import guys like to stand up for them self because they are the under dogs look below.

import muscle

4cyl 8cyl
1.6/2.2l 5.0l +
low torq high torq
low horse high horse

and videos don't mean any thing lol this is stock vs stock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OBCRm_7di0

eclipse wins..

And that was GST. GSX would be much faster cause take off.

SpasticR450

11-25-2010, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by CJM
I had a thought, many of you guys have imports and claim they are fast. Yes they are fast in relative terms-but I would like to see you beat some of the cars I have helped/built.

Heres a good one: take a 1981 camaro, drop in a worked 350 LT-1 (not to be confused with the later engine of the same designation) and put a 4 speed init, lower it, add a worked suspension and such.

My buddy who I worked on this with built chevy engines for over 25+ years and knows every single trick imaginable. This car was so fast that it was wrecked once, the drivetrain was sold off to someone else then wrecked again, and finally it lives on in a 1989 camaro. Nobody can seem to handle it, the current owner pretty much takes out and babies it cause he fears he will wreck like everyone else.

Am I talking out of my rear-nope, this would eat your modified imports alive and then some. Ever seen racing on tv, you see the frontends lift up like crazy-this car would do it. On the dyno it made 482hp and over 500lbs of torque to the wheels.

Better yet, want to know how easy it was to build? No fuel injection, no computers, no turbos or superchargers, no nothing but an engine, trans and carb and it would run like a raped ape.

Another buddy was on pinks all out with his done up chevy nova, it had a 396 and was making tons of power. It is a 9 second car-will your civic or eclipse match that with less than 5k into it?

Dont go bashing V8's, im sure the little 4 and 6 bangers can be made workable but the downside is most are FWD and blow cv axles (I seen it and find it funny and sad-all that power and you cant really use it), a V8 is simply the best platform, specially a chevy v8. How can you argue that stock you can get one that makes over 300hp? How much would you have to add to the 4 or 6cyl to even get close? What about a truck that weighs literally 2x or more as your car that can beat ya?

Well eclipse/talon 210hp stock. And then AWD which helps lots vs rwd. Bolt ons will have it running like a 300hp v8. The car runs 12s basicaly with a boost controler.

SpasticR450

11-25-2010, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by 416exfreak
Read my post again, I never said anything about a stock tire. I said a stock chassis car, meaning built around the chassis it rolled off the showroom with (no tube frames), and stock style suspension (meaning no 4 link cars, they utilize factory style control arms) and a DOT legal tire.

Here you go, this a prime example of what I'm talking about.. lets see an one of those 4g63 powered cars do this, under all the above rules.

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Im not attacking imports, just trying make Spastic realize how ignorant he is (even though im pretty sure he's SLOW, come back for some more..)

What makes you think that a DSM with the same hp wont out run a V8 with the same hp? Because they will. Same power lighter and awd drop the clutch and gone.

This cars used on the road. Thing is you cant mod a car to be fast and not be against the law in some way in my state u cant even change a muffler.

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SpasticR450

11-25-2010, 12:48 AM

Simple fact is most people with V8s do nothing more than add a loud muffler normaly and normaly old v8s and the import people mod a lot more. But for 4cyl engines I only like 4g63. Only other small engines I like are mazda 13B and 20B rotarys tiny yet can make huge hp 500+ n/a and sound like a F1 ported.

Pipeless416

11-25-2010, 12:53 AM

stop arguing with yourself and let people get back to the thread.

Rootar

11-25-2010, 01:30 AM

wow this thread fell off the deep end seems like my post was the last one that actaully had anything to do with this thread.

who cares what anyone thinks or what anyone says or whos is faster anyways? Only reason i got my car was that it handles and drives better than anything ive ever driven plus i get 46-48mpg tooo but im almost ashamed to have it in this aweful thread.

Hondamaster5505

11-25-2010, 03:16 PM

Just went for a ride in my cousins 350Z.

It wasn't as fast as my car, but one thing I will give Japan is dear god they build a nice car. There was not one squeak or rattle, and it was soo smooth.

I loved it. It was comfortable, tight, quiet, and a joy to drive.

bens250ex

11-26-2010, 11:32 AM

im not hatin, but this is what makes me pecker hard!

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WhiteZrider

11-26-2010, 12:46 PM

My buddy has a badass old power ram 50 dodge pickup with an evo motor in it..one of the sweeter things I've ridden in..putting down around 550whp..well it doesnt really put it down because she breaks lose everytime it spools..broke lose at 100 on the highway so i'm told.

only picture i have of it right now..the motor.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k284/vanscan/power50.jpg

Hondamaster5505

11-26-2010, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by WhiteZrider
My buddy has a badass old power ram 50 dodge pickup with an evo motor in it..one of the sweeter things I've ridden in..putting down around 550whp..well it doesnt really put it down because she breaks lose everytime it spools..broke lose at 100 on the highway so i'm told.

only picture i have of it right now..the motor.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k284/vanscan/power50.jpg

I was talking to him a while back about trading my firebird for that truck. We were texting back and fourth, and then out of nowhere he said he would want cash on top.
So it never happened.

I loved that thing when I saw it pop up on craigslist haha

stuntin andy

11-26-2010, 09:22 PM

any picts of the actually truck?

hondariderdylan

11-27-2010, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Hondamaster5505
Just went for a ride in my cousins 350Z.

It wasn't as fast as my car, but one thing I will give Japan is dear god they build a nice car. There was not one squeak or rattle, and it was soo smooth.

I loved it. It was comfortable, tight, quiet, and a joy to drive.

What year? ,chances are it was either newer or its a low mile car, ride in it again after he puts 100K+ miles on it. It wont be the same:p

and by the way everyone arguing:
Can we be inteligent humans please? For god sakes, a car is a car. Rather it has 4 pistons in the engine or 15, driven by the rear wheels or the left sides, rather its made in america or made in a chinese politicians basement (although i stand behind domestics 100%).

Just have the common sense to accept someone elses views and be ready to take others critisim on your views without throwing a internet hissy fit.
Thanks :cool:

Hondamaster5505

11-28-2010, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by hondariderdylan
What year? ,chances are it was either newer or its a low mile car, ride in it again after he puts 100K+ miles on it. It wont be the same:p

It's a 2003 with 105k miles.. lmao. Still tight as can be.

stuntin andy

11-30-2010, 09:12 PM

my buddy liked my car so he decided to take some picts of it >.<

the panda rides in the back of my car buckled up =D

backwoodsracer

12-03-2010, 09:22 PM

all i can think of when i see these cars is loud asz fart cans and the so called "loud drive by" no offense love imports just not the put put cans you guy put on them,

DEAL

12-05-2010, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by 440racer66
heres my import and i love my four banger quiet

nice tacoma, could you tell me whats all done to it?

stuntin andy

12-06-2010, 03:07 PM

ok backwoods run your car not your mouth?!?!

440racer66

12-06-2010, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by DEAL
nice tacoma, could you tell me whats all done to it?

6in fabtech lift 17 in procomp rims and 33in bfg's. thats about it but im thinking either a 4bt cummins swap or the v6 supercharged motor in the works

CJM

12-06-2010, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by 440racer66
6in fabtech lift 17 in procomp rims and 33in bfg's. thats about it but im thinking either a 4bt cummins swap or the v6 supercharged motor in the works

1uz swap would be more fun :)

BlaineKaiser450

12-06-2010, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by 440racer66
6in fabtech lift 17 in procomp rims and 33in bfg's. thats about it but im thinking either a 4bt cummins swap or the v6 supercharged motor in the works 4BT!!!!!!!

DEAL

12-06-2010, 06:35 PM

go with the superchargedv6, the stock 4.0 v6 in those truck works so good,i'd love to try one with the supercharger, I have a 2010 sr5 6 speed v6 and i love it, really quick truck.
Ill probably start a fight by saying this but i really dont regret getting rid of my old sierra v8 to buy this truck.

trailrider894

12-06-2010, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by DEAL
go with the superchargedv6, the stock 4.0 v6 in those truck works so good,i'd love to try one with the supercharger, I have a 2010 sr5 6 speed v6 and i love it, really quick truck.
Ill probably start a fight by saying this but i really dont regret getting rid of my old sierra v8 to buy this truck.

You know being a big V8 fan myself, i really have to agree with you on this one. Some V8 engines just don't cut it when other smaller engines can just produce more power where the Driver needs it. the SR5 is one of them... Rode in one the other day and it is pretty sweet. i give it a 7 out of 10 just because it doesn't sound like it should.

440racer66

12-07-2010, 01:13 AM

yeah its a sr 5 model with a 5 speed and its not really that bad as it is. i thought about sticking a turbo on the 4 cyl for the time being.

12-08-2010, 06:25 PM

This thread makes me raugh out roud! So much arguing, crose minded thinking and ignorance. There's something fast in both categories import and domestic. A true car enthusiast wourd appreciate and respect something buirt right regardress of where the company originated.

Canadian144

12-08-2010, 07:42 PM

^ LOL at your username!

trailrider894

12-08-2010, 10:08 PM

Its because i'm black, isn't it............ :devil:

Un-Fortunetly, I am the definition of red-neck. My pappy was a real red-neck, I have been addicted to the sound of a big cam since i rode my first 2 popper john deere tractor. BTW, my girlfriend thinks mah tractors sexy.

ProspectorJim

12-09-2010, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Peter Chao
This thread makes me raugh out roud! So much arguing, crose minded thinking and ignorance. There's something fast in both categories import and domestic. A true car enthusiast wourd appreciate and respect something buirt right regardress of where the company originated.

The thread was just getting back on track...

trick450r

12-11-2010, 07:40 AM

My buddy who I worked on this with built chevy engines for over 25+ years and knows every single trick imaginable. This car was so fast that it was wrecked once, the drivetrain was sold off to someone else then wrecked again, and finally it lives on in a 1989 camaro. Nobody can seem to handle it, the current owner pretty much takes out and babies it cause he fears he will wreck like everyone else.

not to bring up an older response but seriously? with less than 500 hp, your friends really need to learn how to drive bahaha.

trick450r

12-11-2010, 07:45 AM

And if you think you are pulling the front wheels on any car with 425hp your high as hell. It takes way more than that to pull the front end, and you for sure aint pulling the front end on any car on the street unless you prep the surface via vht or some other traction adder.

:huh

you literally have no idea what your talking about huh?
HP has absolutely nothing to do with it AT ALL, with a proper suspension/tire setup I've seen multiple 4th gen fbody's pull both wheels with just bolt ons, right around 300 rwhp...

I'll agree that ur never gonna pull wheels at a stoplight vin diesel style in any car haha.

CJM

12-11-2010, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by trick450r
not to bring up an older response but seriously? with less than 500 hp, your friends really need to learn how to drive bahaha.

Not designed to be a drag car by any means, just a fun daily driver.

But yea hp isnt the name of the game-torque is.

Im not talking stupid fast and the furious vin diesel bs where the charger lifted up-but it does lift like a good foot in the air or better.

Fast and the furious was so fake it wasnt even funny.

stuntin andy

12-24-2010, 09:59 PM

:blah:

stuntin andy

12-24-2010, 10:01 PM

:macho

stuntin andy

12-24-2010, 10:03 PM

:chinese:

SpasticR450

12-25-2010, 01:35 AM

Warming the dsm tonight at 8. Bad cam and to dark to see. 6:45 and on is heated up but before than you here it lopeing a little.

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Kickstarts-suck

12-25-2010, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by Hondamaster5505
Just went for a ride in my cousins 350Z.

It wasn't as fast as my car

lol funny..

Originally posted by stuntin andy
ok backwoods run your car not your mouth?!?!

Did you get that from fast and the furious?

Hondamaster5505

12-25-2010, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Kickstarts-suck
lol funny..

What exactly is so funny? Stock 350Z's aren't all that. 1/4 mile times for a stock Z are about 14.5-14.7, Stock LT1 times are around 14.00-14.2.

Plus the LT1's torque figures are quite a bit more.

So just curious about what's so funny about saying it's a tiny bit slower then my car? Even my cousin who OWNS the 350Z said my car would most likely beat him. lol

ben300

12-25-2010, 10:23 AM

feuerstack411

12-25-2010, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Hondamaster5505
What exactly is so funny? Stock 350Z's aren't all that. 1/4 mile times for a stock Z are about 14.5-14.7, Stock LT1 times are around 14.00-14.2.

Plus the LT1's torque figures are quite a bit more.

So just curious about what's so funny about saying it's a tiny bit slower then my car? Even my cousin who OWNS the 350Z said my car would most likely beat him. lol

I'll break it down real simple for you so maybe you will be able to comprehend that differences between cars, and where their manufacturers are located.

Lesson 1.
This is the country where your Chevy comes from..
http://images.nationmaster.com/images/motw/united_states/usa_blank.jpg
This is what the average road in said country looks like
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/6818/4974753.jpg
See as the vast majority of American roads are straight, the most popular form of street racing is drag racing.

Lesson 2.
This is where the 350z comes from
http://www.hcteurope.com/japan/Travel_files/Japan_map.jpg

And this is the most common type of road in said country..
http://shaheenaaa.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/beautiful-scenery-desktop-of-japan-21.jpg
Thus Japan's most popular form of racing consists of turning, and driver skill.

If you still don't my drift.. Different cultures call for different needs in a car. The Japanese don't need a huge car with a big gas guzzling v8 in it. They need a smaller more lightweight car that can maneuver well up and down mountain roads. Where as the Europeans need a well handling car that can handle mountain roads, and snow.

Now, you are quite literally comparing apples to oranges. Saying a car with a v8 is faster in a straight line that a car with a v6 is as obvious as saying the United States military is more powerful than say the Military of Kenya.

Now stop acting like such a ricer.
Just because you have an American car, doesn't make you void from being a ricer.

feuerstack411

12-25-2010, 11:31 AM

trailrider894

12-25-2010, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by feuerstack411
I'll break it down real simple for you so maybe you will be able to comprehend that differences between cars, and where their manufacturers are located.

Lesson 1.
This is the country where your Chevy comes from..
http://images.nationmaster.com/images/motw/united_states/usa_blank.jpg
This is what the average road in said country looks like
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/6818/4974753.jpg
See as the vast majority of American roads are straight, the most popular form of street racing is drag racing.

Lesson 2.
This is where the 350z comes from
http://www.hcteurope.com/japan/Travel_files/Japan_map.jpg

And this is the most common type of road in said country..
http://shaheenaaa.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/beautiful-scenery-desktop-of-japan-21.jpg
Thus Japan's most popular form of racing consists of turning, and driver skill.

If you still don't my drift.. Different cultures call for different needs in a car. The Japanese don't need a huge car with a big gas guzzling v8 in it. They need a smaller more lightweight car that can maneuver well up and down mountain roads. Where as the Europeans need a well handling car that can handle mountain roads, and snow.

Now, you are quite literally comparing apples to oranges. Saying a car with a v8 is faster in a straight line that a car with a v6 is as obvious as saying the United States military is more powerful than say the Military of Kenya.

Now stop acting like such a ricer.
Just because you have an American car, doesn't make you void from being a ricer.

You offer the best explaination yet... I totally understand your logic. And i agree... not muscle car has ever stuck to the road like an import... I just don't think that a Civic or other car that was made to be a family sedan will ever be any good at either without some serious cash. Just like a muscle car will never go around corners like that without a bunch of work done to it. Its difficult to argue on this stuff, thats when i realized that the best thing to do is crown each king of there own division... Like you said, give imports the corners and muscle the straight line.

12-25-2010, 09:33 PM

I wirr say that I have seen a Honda totar buird cost incruding the car was ¥248640 run a 1/4 mire in 11 frat. Japanese cars usuarry dominate in the handring department though as exprained above rook at what type of road you drive on.

nemo25

12-25-2010, 11:00 PM

I'm still confused how you can get 150hp out of a chevy v8 and 200hp out of a Honda 2.0L 4 cyl Si :o beyond confused lol

trailrider894

12-25-2010, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by nemo25
I'm still confused how you can get 150hp out of a chevy v8 and 200hp out of a Honda 2.0L 4 cyl Si :o beyond confused lol

huh?

12-25-2010, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by nemo25
I'm still confused how you can get 150hp out of a chevy v8 and 200hp out of a Honda 2.0L 4 cyl Si :o beyond confused lol

How about 200HP 1.8L or 240HP 2.0L stock from the factory... Honda out did Ferrari with HP/L for awhile.

trailrider894

12-25-2010, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by Peter Chao
How about 200HP 1.8L or 240HP 2.0L stock from the factory... Honda out did Ferrari with HP/L for awhile.

How about the STI with a 2.5L Boxer that runs 305 HP stock... ????? Subaru is not tuner.... its a class of its own.

SpasticR450

12-26-2010, 12:17 AM

WTF honda 4cyl engine makes 240hp? Most are like 90hp!

Ha short vid of the car.
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Dobber

12-26-2010, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
WTF honda 4cyl engine makes 240hp? Most are like 90hp!

never heard of a k20 huh...

SpasticR450

12-26-2010, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by Dobber
never heard of a k20 huh...

k20 still crap.

nemo25

12-26-2010, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
k20 still crap.

you realize you own an eclipse which are notorious for "crank walks" and over all are crap? K20 would kick yo ***** and as for the STI comment I didnt include evo's or sti's becuase their not naturaly aspired in the case an Evo IX makes 290HP 2.0L DOHC motor :)

Dobber

12-26-2010, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
k20 still crap.

can you give some reasoning for why k20's are crap? i would really like to know..

ZBlaster

12-26-2010, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
What makes you think that a DSM with the same hp wont out run a V8 with the same hp? Because they will. Same power lighter and awd drop the clutch and gone.

This cars used on the road. Thing is you cant mod a car to be fast and not be against the law in some way in my state u cant even change a muffler.

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I know Mike. His car is definitely NOT driven on the street.

1,000whp to run 8's? No thanks. I've seen foxbodies do it with 300 less whp.

I've seen 03 Cobra's do it with around the same power... on stock internals.

My import has 1.0L, 187whp, will destroy almost anything (if not anything) in this thread in a straight line, and turns.

Newsflash everyone: No matter what you own there is always something, somewhere that is faster.

stuntin andy

12-26-2010, 02:08 PM

z blaster what do u have a speed bike?

BlaineKaiser450

12-26-2010, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by stuntin andy
z blaster what do u have a speed bike? His sig says an R1, which truly will destroy anything in this thread haha

12-26-2010, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
How about the STI with a 2.5L Boxer that runs 305 HP stock... ????? Subaru is not tuner.... its a class of its own.

Prease insert faceparm. Take the turbo off... the 1.8L is 111HP/L and the 2.0L is 120HP/L both NA. Yeah that 122HP/L doesnt rook so impressive now does it being forced induction. Try again.

ZBlaster

12-26-2010, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by BlaineKaiser450
His sig says an R1, which truly will destroy anything in this thread haha

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs765.snc4/66583_456376856879_502151879_5339204_4761510_n.jpg

;)

ProspectorJim

12-26-2010, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by Dobber
can you give some reasoning for why k20's are crap? i would really like to know..

because it's not an eclipse...

ZBlaster

12-26-2010, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by ProspectorJim
because it's not an eclipse...

Everyone knows DSM's are the pinnacle of quality engineering.

WhiteYFZ

12-26-2010, 09:35 PM

20th anniversary GTI
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/4773117002_d77d96df05.jpg

Canadian144

12-26-2010, 09:37 PM

If you ain't rubbin', you ain't dubbin'!

Looks pretty good man.

ZBlaster

12-26-2010, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by WhiteYFZ
20th anniversary GTI
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/4773117002_d77d96df05.jpg

I love it. Please bring it to SoWo. It's an awesome weekend of beer drinking, drooling over slammed VW's, and watching people make fools of themselves.

BlaineKaiser450

12-26-2010, 10:21 PM

Dobber

12-26-2010, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by WhiteYFZ
20th anniversary GTI
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/4773117002_d77d96df05.jpg

that thing looks clean. nice job. got any more pics?

trailrider894

12-26-2010, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by Peter Chao
Prease insert faceparm. Take the turbo off... the 1.8L is 111HP/L and the 2.0L is 120HP/L both NA. Yeah that 122HP/L doesnt rook so impressive now does it being forced induction. Try again.

Didn't know they were talking without the turbo. BTW how about the Impreza which is a 2.5i which runs 170hp stock... Throw a CAI and a real exhaust and a chip on it and you'll be past 180hp in no time.

MOFO

12-27-2010, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by WhiteYFZ
20th anniversary GTI
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/4773117002_d77d96df05.jpg

Nice GTI!

We just picked this one up awhile back - makes our 4th GTI in the last 15 years. Had to get the 4 door as it's now the baby hauler. :devil:

12-27-2010, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by trailrider894
Didn't know they were talking without the turbo. BTW how about the Impreza which is a 2.5i which runs 170hp stock... Throw a CAI and a real exhaust and a chip on it and you'll be past 180hp in no time.

68HP/L is not very impressive. In fact it is rather pathetic.

BTW I wirr admit that is a nicery done VW. I just hate how srow they arr are.

trailrider894

12-27-2010, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by Peter Chao
68HP/L is not very impressive. In fact it is rather pathetic.

BTW I wirr admit that is a nicery done VW. I just hate how srow they arr are.

still think an STI with a few g's in it would eat a full blown K20 easily...

WhiteYFZ

12-27-2010, 04:23 PM

Few more photos:

Aired up
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4796875811_56f73db0f6.jpg

aired out
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/4924507600_2e8b3cd7c0.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4942890902_73661bde9b.jpg

Everything is shaved, hatch,front,fender and bumper markers along with the antenna. Doing a full shaved bay over this winter and a motor swap..
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5089/5259695863_f98e23e933.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5084/5259689289_a01a6e13a4.jpg

WhiteYFZ

12-27-2010, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by MOFO
Nice GTI!

We just picked this one up awhile back - makes our 4th GTI in the last 15 years. Had to get the 4 door as it's now the baby hauler. :devil:

sweet man, the new mk6's are nice!

stuntin andy

12-27-2010, 04:49 PM

nice gtis both of yal

ProspectorJim

12-27-2010, 09:34 PM

I love gti's! Anyone have a mk1 or mk2?

WhiteYFZ

12-27-2010, 09:48 PM

friends mk2, full restoration painted inside and out with a 1.8 big turbo swap
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/3830856261_1f42791bcb.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2566/3831677824_9be111ab7a.jpg

12-28-2010, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by trailrider894
still think an STI with a few g's in it would eat a full blown K20 easily...

K series has done severar 8 and 9 second 1/4 mire runs in a regurar chassis... we are tarking 1100HP here with the stock brock.

trailrider894

12-28-2010, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by Peter Chao
K series has done severar 8 and 9 second 1/4 mire runs in a regurar chassis... we are tarking 1100HP here with the stock brock.

hmm... anybody ever heard of a brock?

ben300

12-28-2010, 08:38 AM

screw all you muscle, tuner, import, rice, luxury car guys...

..if you were all true ballers, you'd be driving one of these.

yfzttracer76

12-28-2010, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by WhiteYFZ
Few more photos:

Aired up
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4796875811_56f73db0f6.jpg

aired out
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4122/4924507600_2e8b3cd7c0.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4942890902_73661bde9b.jpg

Everything is shaved, hatch,front,fender and bumper markers along with the antenna. Doing a full shaved bay over this winter and a motor swap..
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5089/5259695863_f98e23e933.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5084/5259689289_a01a6e13a4.jpg

Thats awesome I have a black magic pearl 20th and a mk2 jetta

Canadian144

12-29-2010, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by Peter Chao
Prease insert faceparm. Take the turbo off... the 1.8L is 111HP/L and the 2.0L is 120HP/L both NA. Yeah that 122HP/L doesnt rook so impressive now does it being forced induction. Try again.

You do realize that an STI engine is not just a stock 2.5i engine with a turbo on it, right? Different longblocks... really not the same engine at all, just the same boxer layout. People have slapped a turbo kit on their 2.5i (or 2.5RS) and don't make the same horsepower that an STI does.

trailrider894

12-29-2010, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by Canadian144
You do realize that an STI engine is not just a stock 2.5i engine with a turbo on it, right? Different longblocks... really not the same engine at all, just the same boxer layout. People have slapped a turbo kit on their 2.5i (or 2.5RS) and don't make the same horsepower that an STI does.

thank you... Plus you have to consider an STI still has grunt before the turbo spool.

madskrillz2

12-29-2010, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by Peter Chao
K series has done severar 8 and 9 second 1/4 mire runs in a regurar chassis... we are tarking 1100HP here with the stock brock.

Hahaha has anyone else noticed this guy replaces his L's with R's? I think he's a troll. Reminds me of Kim Jong Il from Team America

trailrider894

12-29-2010, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by madskrillz2
Hahaha has anyone else noticed this guy replaces his L's with R's? I think he's a troll. Reminds me of Kim Jong Il from Team America

Chao is a joke... I mean just look at his english in general... Its like he forgot to stop speaking chinese or japanase... whatever...

trailrider894

12-29-2010, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by ben300
screw all you muscle, tuner, import, rice, luxury car guys...

..if you were all true ballers, you'd be driving one of these.

OMISH ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fastredrider44

12-29-2010, 03:32 PM

Did someone say K20? Sorry, I had to. :p, and no, not my truck.

12-29-2010, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
Chao is a joke... I mean just look at his english in general... Its like he forgot to stop speaking chinese or japanase... whatever...

I make the joke, youtube me :p

SpasticR450

12-29-2010, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by nemo25
you realize you own an eclipse which are notorious for "crank walks" and over all are crap? K20 would kick yo ***** and as for the STI comment I didnt include evo's or sti's becuase their not naturaly aspired in the case an Evo IX makes 290HP 2.0L DOHC motor :)

Eclipse/talon/laser = awd turbo 4g63 engine. And EVO= awd turbo 4g63 engine... Now you know. The eclipse 4g63 ended in 99 when DSM ended so yeah the evo 4g63 will be a little better since its 4g63 engine is still being made and updated.

Oh and crank walk is crank bearings wearing out just so you know most pl dont even know what it is but talk about it. If you can build an engine and not maintain it is it the cars fault? NO its yours! The crank bearings went out in my bros 2008 yfz after a year so should I start saying yfz's get crank walk now? :rolleyes:

trailrider894

12-29-2010, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
The crank bearings went out in my bros 2008 yfz after a year so sould I start saying yfz's get crankt walk now? :rolleyes:

No because its not a common problem... unlike in the eclipse

SpasticR450

12-29-2010, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
No because its not a common problem... unlike in the eclipse

It's a performance engine and modded holds all the 4cyl records with no 6cyl putting down any faster times in the 1/4. How many 4cyl engines can make 500hp on the stock internals? 4g63 is all I know of that can.

trailrider894

12-29-2010, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
It's a performance engine and modded holds all the 4cyl records with no 6cyl putting down any faster times in the 1/4. How many 4cyl engines can make 500hp on the stock internals? 4g63 is all I know of that can.

Tell me exactly how you will get 500hp out of that engine... I want the exact parts...

SpasticR450

12-30-2010, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by trailrider894
Tell me exactly how you will get 500hp out of that engine... I want the exact parts...

Well stock rods and pistons is 2 of em. But I'm not in the mood to teach right now maybe you should look up 4g63 engines.

Simple put. 4g63 is the 2jzgte(supra) of the 4 cylinders.

SpasticR450

12-30-2010, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by fastredrider44
Did someone say K20? Sorry, I had to. :p, and no, not my truck.

I have one just like that but in all black and with a net in back and road tires. I got it from my dad after he died. Only has 80,000 real miles and is manual. Dont even use it. All the elec is done by switches and has 2 fuel cells. Have it up for $300. Only thing wrong with it is a bent A-arm from a rock/stump and rusted exhaust and elec is done by switches basicaly like a race car idk why. Its A-arm independent suspension in front not straight axle.

trailrider894

12-30-2010, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
Well stock rods and pistons is 2 of em. But I'm not in the mood to teach right now maybe you should look up 4g63 engines.

Simple put. 4g63 is the 2jzgte(supra) of the 4 cylinders.

My point is, to get 500hp you'll have to to do all those things and spend tons and tons of money. Heres just a little research i did....

Stage Two Turbo Kit, i am using the TSI Extreme Turbo Kit for example.

So this puts us with the 4g63 being 210hp stock. so add 117hp with this TSI Extreme Turbo Kit we have right around 327hp.

This comes at the price of $2,700.

So we now have a 4g63 at 210hp but up to 327hp for $2,700. I don't have the time to re-search this, and i have a feeling you don't really know how to make an engine that is 500hp that will cost less than 7g's... at that point it is a waste of money and you could have just bought a better car than the car that every tuner kit drives... an Eclipse... :tired:

Everybody owns em and everybody adds huge spoilers and turbo kits, neon, dumb paint schemes, etc.... In my experiences the Eclipse and Neon are the trashy side of import tuning... My Girlfriend has an Eclipse with the 4g63 and the interior of the car is falling apart and everything is rusting out... etc... The car is taken car of immaculently and has never been wrecked or even dented. The car is just engineered into a pile of junk IMHO and that opinion has experience tied into it.
After a wake up call i have nothing against tuners and imports in general, just the ones that are cheap in quality.

madskrillz2

12-30-2010, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Peter Chao
I make the joke, youtube me :p

Haha I knew you couldn't be serious.

400exrider707

12-30-2010, 01:22 PM

Ricer math makes me laugh.

stuntin Andy, nice looking car. I feel bad for you for the way this thread went. You might just be the only normal person responding in here. (or at least one of the few with any forum etiquette). :o

CJM

12-30-2010, 01:50 PM

^ Good posting.

Really people will claim all kinds of stuff: That they know wtf they are talking about, the cars fast, etc, etc.

99% of them dont have a real clue and get the info from the net anyways.

SpasticR450

12-30-2010, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
My point is, to get 500hp you'll have to to do all those things and spend tons and tons of money. Heres just a little research i did....

Stage Two Turbo Kit, i am using the TSI Extreme Turbo Kit for example.

So this puts us with the 4g63 being 210hp stock. so add 117hp with this TSI Extreme Turbo Kit we have right around 327hp.

This comes at the price of $2,700.

So we now have a 4g63 at 210hp but up to 327hp for $2,700. I don't have the time to re-search this, and i have a feeling you don't really know how to make an engine that is 500hp that will cost less than 7g's... at that point it is a waste of money and you could have just bought a better car than the car that every tuner kit drives... an Eclipse... :tired:

Everybody owns em and everybody adds huge spoilers and turbo kits, neon, dumb paint schemes, etc.... In my experiences the Eclipse and Neon are the trashy side of import tuning... My Girlfriend has an Eclipse with the 4g63 and the interior of the car is falling apart and everything is rusting out... etc... The car is taken car of immaculently and has never been wrecked or even dented. The car is just engineered into a pile of junk IMHO and that opinion has experience tied into it.
After a wake up call i have nothing against tuners and imports in general, just the ones that are cheap in quality.

LMAO its rusting it must be junk lmfao. its made of steel as are most cars! And just so you know eclipse/neon are not the same which proves your gf car is not a 4g63!!!! Because the engine in a neon is 420a as in "some" eclipses/talons. 420a = crap.

And Wrong. From 95-99 there are 3 engines used. Here's why the talon/eclipse has a bad name (in some peoples heads). From 95-99 being the best looking year there are 7 talons/eclipses and are 3 engines used 4g64 4g63 420a. They all look the same and the only dsms that stand out to most people are the idiot 16 year olds trying to race the china drift bs crap with there n/a fart can talons/eclipses. But honda has a 10x worse name. At least dsm has all the best sound and records and most potential engine.

SpasticR450

12-30-2010, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by CJM
^ Good posting.

Really people will claim all kinds of stuff: That they know wtf they are talking about, the cars fast, etc, etc.

99% of them dont have a real clue and get the info from the net anyways.

Well ppl like you are what made me "find proof" that the dsm eclipse/4g63 holds all the records and has the most potential to make power on stock internals. It's funny how the honda guys with there 90hp civics will tell me im wrong when i even show them the papers and vids of proof of what I am talking about. :rolleyes:

trailrider894

12-30-2010, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
Wrong. From 95-99 there are 3 engines used. Here's why the talon/eclipse has a bad name (in some peoples heads). From 95-99 being the best looking year there are 7 talons/eclipses and are 3 engines used 4g64 4g63 420a. They all look the same and the only dsms that stand out to most people are the idiot 16 year olds trying to race the china drift bs crap with there n/a fart can talons/eclipses. But honda has a 10x worse name. At least dsm has all the best sound and records and most potential engine.

not sure why i am wrong??? You seem kinda jumbled. I don't know why anything i said relates to the three different engines? or how 16yr olds trying to drift china whatcha macallit fit into the picture of what i was posting about. I am just saying i have driving the 4g63 that you rant and rave about and i hate it. Mitsubishi makes crap.

trailrider894

12-30-2010, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
I added more to the post above that. Your gf does not have a 4g63 she has a 420a. If she had a 4g63 you would know the diff between a neon and eclipse.

You point out exactly where i said that the eclipse and neon had the same motors? Because i never said that. I know it is a 4g63, i am not a dumby. Also the vids you show are of eclipses that are so radical that there is no way the common joe could ever afford that. Any one of us can post a video of our favorite car with 1000whp... whoop-di-doo... Doesn't mean we can afford it or that its even realistic to but that much money into it. You can make any car fast....

SpasticR450

12-30-2010, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
You point out exactly where i said that the eclipse and neon had the same motors? Because i never said that. I know it is a 4g63, i am not a dumby. Also the vids you show are of eclipses that are so radical that there is no way the common joe could ever afford that. Any one of us can post a video of our favorite car with 1000whp... whoop-di-doo... Doesn't mean we can afford it or that its even realistic to but that much money into it. You can make any car fast....

Worlds fastest honda is secs behind worlds fastest dsm eclipse as is the supra and skyline.

Ok well how bout a AWD dsm that can handle 500hp on the stock engine vs a FWD honda that cant even handle half that power on the stock engine?

Honda#4

12-31-2010, 12:20 AM

I thought this thread was lets see your import unless I missed something. :ermm: :confused:

SpasticR450

12-31-2010, 02:03 AM

walked out side to burn the garbage so snapped one on way out.

SpasticR450

12-31-2010, 02:14 AM

Same

SpasticR450

12-31-2010, 02:22 AM

Same

atvracer190

12-31-2010, 08:40 AM

my 97 i built when i was 17

atvracer190

12-31-2010, 08:44 AM

dogleggin at HIN

MOFO

12-31-2010, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by fastredrider44
Did someone say K20? Sorry, I had to. :p, and no, not my truck.

Yep - I think I've seen K20 mentioned in this thread... :devil: Here is my recent purchase and new project.

1976 K20 - 350 mated to a NP205/SM465 drive train with D44 front and 14bolt FF rear - built like a tank! Only 71k on the truck too...

Needs a new clutch and will be getting a new fender and paint job in the spring.

ProspectorJim

12-31-2010, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
walked out side to burn the garbage so snapped one on way out.

Thank god you set that thing on fire.

trick450r

01-01-2011, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by ProspectorJim
Thank god you set that thing on fire.

god damn you, I was just about to say exactly that lol

rpfeifer11

01-01-2011, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by trick450r
god damn you, I was just about to say exactly that lol

HAHA me too!

CJM

01-01-2011, 09:47 AM

http://ui27.gamespot.com/1242/1185942618212_2.gif

SpasticR450

01-01-2011, 10:18 PM

lol

How about this mitsubishi eclipse 2.2 310 ft torq, all wheel drive, 2 seater, butterfly doors, aluminum tube chassis, sst twin cluch, 40mpg and more

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trick450r

01-02-2011, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
lol

How about this 2.2 310 torq eclipse
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Not too bad lookin, needs LSX power though...haha :devil: :blah:

BoneStockHonda

01-02-2011, 10:16 PM

hahahahaha he's back with the eclipse again

still want to put the v10 viper motor in it or the rotary?

trailrider894

01-02-2011, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by BoneStockHonda
hahahahaha he's back with the eclipse again

still want to put the v10 viper motor in it or the rotary?

ha ha exactly... Turns out the kid doesn't even have a drivers license... XD he claimed once before that he was 26, 26 and never had a license?? Yeah right....

SpasticR450

01-02-2011, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
ha ha exactly... Turns out the kid doesn't even have a drivers license... XD he claimed once before that he was 26, 26 and never had a license?? Yeah right....

Oh im 11 and have no money I forgot. :rolleyes:

And I have a dsm soo? It has nothing to do with dsm having all the world records. If some one wants to b**** about whats good then show some proof! Till then 2g eclipse is top dog in the tuner world.

CJM

01-02-2011, 10:56 PM

show us some detailed pics of your car, including a sign with your forum name and the date on it.

Then and only then do you get cred...

trailrider894

01-02-2011, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
Oh im 11 and have no money I forgot.

Makes us all wonder, you claim to come to know a ton about eclipses and what not, but you aren't being truthful about something. Just come out and tell the truth about how old you really are... The pieces to the puzzle don't match.

Kickstarts-suck

01-02-2011, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by CJM
show us some detailed pics of your car, including a sign with your forum name and the date on it.

Then and only then do you get cred...

Cred for having a pos??

Hes like a 20 year old delinquent...

Everyone should remember SLOW...

SpasticR450

01-02-2011, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
Makes us all wonder, you claim to come to know a ton about eclipses and what not, but you aren't being truthful about something. Just come out and tell the truth about how old you really are... The pieces to the puzzle don't match.

Eclipses? No i dont. I know DSMs

SpasticR450

01-02-2011, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by Kickstarts-suck
Cred for having a pos??

Hes like a 20 year old delinquent...

Everyone should remember SLOW...

Delinquent? I got in trouble one time in my life and it was 2 years ago over a 2jzgte supra engine.

trailrider894

01-02-2011, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
Eclipses? No i dont. I know DSMs

eh hem... DSM (Diamond Star Motors; 1990-1999 Mitsubishi Eclipses, Eagle Talons, and Plymouth Lasers). Sorry i left out two things.... It is an eclipse!!! or a Talon or a Laser... ITs all the same bud!!! But seriously stop avoiding our questions and fess up.... whats your deal SLOW?

trailrider894

01-02-2011, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
Delinquent? I got in trouble one time in my life and it was 2 years ago over a 2jzgte supra engine.

Still doesn't explain how you don't have a license if that was two years ago?? Unless you did something real bad over a Supra Engine.... Like tried to kill somebody.

SpasticR450

01-02-2011, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
eh hem... DSM (Diamond Star Motors; 1990-1999 Mitsubishi Eclipses, Eagle Talons, and Plymouth Lasers). Sorry i left out two things.... It is an eclipse!!! or a Talon or a Laser... ITs all the same bud!!! But seriously stop avoiding our questions and fess up.... whats your deal SLOW?

89-99. And 4 engines used and 7 dif eclipses/talons from 95-99 but no one knows taht because if they did, well they would know that eclipse and evo are both awd and have same engine and much more. And still what does this matter? I can say over and over again and keep showing that the dsm is the top tuner and every one can say its crap and it dont matter at least show some vids or pages showin im wrong... But i no im right so i no theres no way that could happen. :blah:

trailrider894

01-02-2011, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by SpasticR450
89-99. And 4 engines used and 7 dif eclipses/talons from 95-99 but no one knows taht because if they did, well they would know that eclipse and evo are both awd and have same engine and much more. And still what does this matter? I can say over and over again and keep showing that the dsm is the top tuner and every one can say its crap and it dont matter at least show some vids or pages showin im wrong... But i no im right so i no theres no way that could happen. :blah:

Dude honestly i don't care about the DSM crap... You can think whatever you want, because i don't care. I am a muscle car guy anyway. Yes i have owned a Subaru and now my sister drives it, so i am a tuner guy also. I'll never own an import that isn't a subaru. I still find it ironic though that you won't tell us about what your real deal is... Because you are definetly avoiding it... Just proves all of our points about you. Your just a punk kid who is making this crap up unless you can prove us wrong with CJM's method...

SpasticR450

01-02-2011, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
Still doesn't explain how you don't have a license if that was two years ago?? Unless you did something real bad over a Supra Engine.... Like tried to kill somebody.

Wansn't bad was just stupid, but the max punishment was crazy. Up two 32 years my state and in other states max over 2 life sentences! :eek2: We live we learn. :o

SpasticR450

01-02-2011, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by trailrider894
Dude honestly i don't care about the DSM crap... You can think whatever you want, because i don't care. I am a muscle car guy anyway. Yes i have owned a Subaru and now my sister drives it, so i am a tuner guy also. I'll never own an import that isn't a subaru. I still find it ironic though that you won't tell us about what your real deal is... Because you are definetly avoiding it... Just proves all of our points about you. Your just a punk kid who is making this crap up unless you can prove us wrong with CJM's method...

About the 2g eclipse records? :confused:

SpasticR450

01-02-2011, 11:42 PM

I used to have it all saved on my computer but not any more have to find it all now. Here's a few but some the speed times are faster now. Cant find em all. Some the others I didn't find are worlds fastest awd manual, worlds fastest convertible fwd and awd and some others.

Worlds fastest 4cyl and 4g63
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Fastest FWD
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worlds fastest awd auto
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worlds fastest 420a
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Land spead record
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WORLDS FASTEST 35R
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Kickstarts-suck

01-03-2011, 12:36 AM

Okay so you can post videos of cars that ARNT YOURS...

I can post some videos of some 7 second gen 1 Lightnings... But that doesn't mean mine is fast.

SpasticR450

01-03-2011, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Kickstarts-suck
Okay so you can post videos of cars that ARNT YOURS...

I can post some videos of some 7 second gen 1 Lightnings... But that doesn't mean mine is fast.

Ya I know my point is talking bad about a dsm is like saying a geo will smoke a supra. 4g63 also being much faster than the supra and skyline modded. Point is so many people know nothing about DSM eclipse/talon/laser that they dont even know there dissing the fastest and best looking 4cyl that has ever been made and having all the world records modded other than top fuel drag V8s.