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T@AFP
10-01-2010, 11:08 AM
Four Play/Pitster Mod 65cc

T@AFP
10-01-2010, 11:11 AM
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T@AFP
10-01-2010, 11:17 AM
Hetrick has the engine now doing their stuff. Hopefully we can get it back before snow flies. It just has a stock KX65 in it now.

It's a turd compared to out Hot Quad CVT 70 engine.

But my son would rather run this vs the cvt, even though it's slower.
He's still struggling with the shifting thing but he's getting better.

I know I'd rather have him run this. WAY easier on me.... Gas n go.

mini racer #39
10-01-2010, 11:40 AM
Erik's new Mod

mini racer #39
10-01-2010, 11:41 AM
Pic #2

riding4fun
10-01-2010, 11:46 AM
Man, this section is really gonna help me. I'm excited to build a shifter.

T@AFP
10-01-2010, 12:06 PM
Jerry,
Very cool.
Nice looking quad. Hopefully now WE can enjoy the races.

mini racer #39
10-01-2010, 12:17 PM
tom i sure hope so maybe no more 4 laps on the track equals 2-3 hrs of work in the trailer

STOCKRACING917
10-01-2010, 12:44 PM
That bike looks cool, Jerry !! Know Erik loves it !! Love the look of that Pister too, Tom.

T@AFP
10-01-2010, 01:23 PM
Thanks,
Hey don't you owe me a beer? ;)


Originally posted by STOCKRACING917
That bike looks cool, Jerry !! Know Erik loves it !! Love the look of that Pister too, Tom.

QuadJunkies
10-03-2010, 02:03 AM
Oh man... are those SAWEET!!!

We no longer have this one , but this is what my Daughter used to race before she moved to a 450.
Link to build up photos..
http://www.pbase.com/quadjunkies/misc_mini_build_pics_&page=all

CR101 Blaster
http://www.pbase.com/quadjunkies/image/97515244.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/quadjunkies/image/97515241.jpg

one of a kind seat cover that was made for her . One of my faves !

http://www.pbase.com/quadjunkies/image/97515248.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/quadjunkies/image/97515247.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/quadjunkies/image/97515250.jpg

STOCKRACING917
10-03-2010, 11:57 AM
I ain't forgot Tom. I believe I do!! Haha

edwardsp&b
10-04-2010, 10:37 AM
Those are some sick quads! I really like the pitster Tom, my question is why the kx65? Is there some reason you would choose that motor over another 65 motor?

Reason Im asking, is talking to all my dirtbike friends, they tell me that the ktm 65 is the best motor in that class. I picked up a ktm 65 the other day cheap, and Im thinking about putting that motor in our cobra. Just wondering why you chose the kx over others.
Thanks bryan

T@AFP
10-04-2010, 10:50 AM
Thanks, we like it too.
I went with that because I had a KX65 dirt bike my kid played around on. In the begining I wanted the KTM. But I read on alot on mini dirt bike forums and alot of people said the KX w a little bit of work was a great engine. Plus a lot cheaper to maintain.
Hetrick has the engine now and he said when he's done it will be a runner. Looking forward to that.
We're talking to a few guys that are on the fence. They are looking at using the KTM85 because they seem to really like those.
If I could get a KTM cheap I would like to try on of those too.

Thanks again,
Tom



Originally posted by edwardsp&b
Those are some sick quads! I really like the pitster Tom, my question is why the kx65? Is there some reason you would choose that motor over another 65 motor?

Reason Im asking, is talking to all my dirtbike friends, they tell me that the ktm 65 is the best motor in that class. I picked up a ktm 65 the other day cheap, and Im thinking about putting that motor in our cobra. Just wondering why you chose the kx over others.
Thanks bryan

nordic quad
10-04-2010, 01:01 PM
quote:Originally posted by edwardsp&b
Those are some sick quads! I really like the pitster Tom, my question is why the kx65? Is there some reason you would choose that motor over another 65 motor?

Reason Im asking, is talking to all my dirtbike friends, they tell me that the ktm 65 is the best motor in that class. I picked up a ktm 65 the other day cheap, and Im thinking about putting that motor in our cobra. Just wondering why you chose the kx over others.
Thanks bryan

Stock VS stock the KTM engine is the fastest,about 2-3 moore crank hp in the KTM.We usually see the same diffrence with the 85cc.I think from 09 the 65cc KTM got better low end torque.But!if you are going to have your engine built anyway the Kx engine is as god a starting point as anything else.
Stein A

edwardsp&b
10-04-2010, 01:27 PM
My biggest concern is the pipe. Should i just take the afmkt pipe from the ktm, cut it to fit then weld it back up. Or have someone build a pipe for me?

Ive already got the motor and it was just built for national mx, it really rips. I was thinking of selling it and just doing the rm85 conversion, but with Ben being 9 im not sure i want to race 90mod just yet. Thats when i started thinking about the ktm.....
Since I have it and it could run 70mod at Nat's.....

Im pulling my hair out trying to get out of CVT's
Bryan

Sorry to hijack this thread.

quad59
10-06-2010, 07:21 AM
09 and up ktm 65s have power valves and a real broad power band, that with the O.E.M hydraulic clutch may make the transition to shifting easier.. But pull out your wallet because they are pricey.

skyeryder
10-06-2010, 12:48 PM
I'm sure alot of you will recognize this mini... There are some changes planned.... Cobra framed KX65

minuga
10-07-2010, 07:35 AM
Selfmade Honda crf 150r based quad
http://assets.hookit.com/RFS/2010/09/07/e0505775-2139-4c19-8a38-d406c1f4b494f.jpg

http://assets.hookit.com/RFS/2010/09/07/20ded76a-de6b-4aec-b3bb-89a8a234d72ef.jpg

http://assets.hookit.com/RFS/2010/09/17/9d05ee19-5bed-4ef1-be2c-be27b706ae36f.jpg

nastynotchback1
10-08-2010, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by minuga
Selfmade Honda crf 150r based quad
http://assets.hookit.com/RFS/2010/09/07/e0505775-2139-4c19-8a38-d406c1f4b494f.jpg

http://assets.hookit.com/RFS/2010/09/07/20ded76a-de6b-4aec-b3bb-89a8a234d72ef.jpg

http://assets.hookit.com/RFS/2010/09/17/9d05ee19-5bed-4ef1-be2c-be27b706ae36f.jpg

NOW THATS WEIRD LOOKING

vondeister
10-20-2010, 01:46 PM
2010 season 90 Mod. Yamaha Blaster Chassis and YZ 85 Engine.
TT and Flat Track!

C41Xracer
10-27-2010, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by minuga
Selfmade Honda crf 150r based quad
http://assets.hookit.com/RFS/2010/09/07/e0505775-2139-4c19-8a38-d406c1f4b494f.jpg

http://assets.hookit.com/RFS/2010/09/07/20ded76a-de6b-4aec-b3bb-89a8a234d72ef.jpg

http://assets.hookit.com/RFS/2010/09/17/9d05ee19-5bed-4ef1-be2c-be27b706ae36f.jpg

did you use the dirt bike frame?

minuga
10-28-2010, 12:40 AM
Yes i did.

WISH1965
11-02-2010, 09:15 AM
I got a 70 mod with a KX 65 for my son as well. Will post pics soon. The CVT's are frrrrruuuuusssstrating!!! I realized that even if we finished last, I wanted to be running at the end of every moto. Tired of stuff breaking. I think you're going to start to see a ground swell of people migrating to the shifters & mod classes. Your already seeing guys selling their stuff cheap to just get out from under it. Including me. The CVT's nickle & dime you to death.

The mods may cost more initially but I do not think in the long run they will nickel & dime you to death!

Cost per HP is cheaper as well. If a CVT 2 fast kit, with pipe, clutch, PVL, new is in the area of $3000 - $3500 complete, that same $3000 will buy you a real nice CR 85 set up for sure and would crush that 2 fast set up dollar for dollar and the reliability factor is far superior as well!!!!

Just my 2 cents.

Ride1Rob
12-29-2010, 08:54 AM
Here's Jams Typhoon build which includes an insane reworked Pit Bike engine from Terry Straubel (The FirePower) and Lew at ChassisInc.Fabs suspension setup.
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9716/rebuild5.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/rebuild5.jpg/)

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8342/rebuild9.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/rebuild9.jpg/)

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/5648/rebuild8.jpg (http://img853.imageshack.us/i/rebuild8.jpg/)

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1899/rebuild10.jpg (http://img825.imageshack.us/i/rebuild10.jpg/)

Hetrick Racing
12-30-2010, 04:10 PM
"The mods may cost more initially but I do not think in the long run they will nickel & dime you to death!"


I have been telling people this for years,and I can tell you first hand they will not cost more in a 3 year run as a cvt, you will save money.
(of course Im talking a full blown cvt)

A mod is not for everyone though so the cvt has its place in the racing world.

WISH1965
12-31-2010, 07:29 AM
Hetrick is spot on. More upfront cost, less nickle & diming!! lets see.....tranny breakage issues, DRR frame cracks unless well gussetted & that's no guarantee, new torque springs often, roller flat spotting.....and the list goes on and on. For what you spend in a CVT race motor you can build a good dependable Japanese two stroker with plenty of power.

edwardsp&b
12-31-2010, 07:44 AM
For what you spend in a CVT race motor you can build a good dependable Japanese two stroker with plenty of power.

LOL Or two or three, depending on how wild your cvt build is!

I read a comment the other day that made me laugh. I think it was Mr. Havert that said "4-5 laps on the track equals 4-5 hrs. in the trailer working on the cvt" Wow, couldnt have said it better myself!
Bryan

WISH1965
12-31-2010, 07:46 AM
LOL....probably true. I really wonder sometimes what were doing?? I think that's why some guys have had it and the trend toward mods seems to be growing.

riding4fun
01-28-2011, 09:39 PM
Well she is almost done. Here is a look at it. CR85 Apex. Have some other things to do still.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/sdflenner/Znewquad1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/sdflenner/Znewquad.jpg

edwardsp&b
01-31-2011, 08:22 AM
Here are some pics of our new ride. It is a Cobra chassis, JB all around, kx65 powerplant. Ben and I spent alot of time fabbing the mounts and building this bike. We are very proud of it.

We would like to thank some people that helped us along the way. Marc @ Hotquads, Gary @ G-force, Dgs powdercoating, Tim West, Ernie @ FTR (all I can say is WOW!) , and the guys at Edwards Paint and Body. Thanks to you all!!
Bryan

edwardsp&b
01-31-2011, 08:22 AM
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edwardsp&b
01-31-2011, 08:30 AM
#3

edwardsp&b
01-31-2011, 08:32 AM
#4

THARNESS
01-31-2011, 11:13 AM
That looks awesome Bryan.

edwardsp&b
01-31-2011, 01:29 PM
Thanks Mr. Tom! That motor fired up first kick! It sounds nasty! Ben cant wait to get it out of the shop.
Bryan

skyeryder
01-31-2011, 01:48 PM
That mini is sweeeeet! How old is your son, just curious.

Bens Dad
01-31-2011, 02:10 PM
BRAIN THAT THING LOOKS NASTY ! LIKE THE COLORS AND THE DETAIL CANT WAIT TO SEE BEE100 FLY THAT ROCKET SHIP!!

fastrnrik
01-31-2011, 03:19 PM
Man, that is an awesome bike for sure. Props to yall!

Rich243
01-31-2011, 03:53 PM
Very NICE!!!!!!!!!

edwardsp&b
01-31-2011, 07:50 PM
Hey thanks everybody! Cant wait to get it on the track! Hopefully this weekend we can get it dialed in at Aonia. See yall there.

Skyeryder...... Ben just turned 10 about two weeks ago. Come by at the Nat's and say hi.

Bryan

nastynotchback1
02-02-2011, 09:29 AM
Sweet looks really good.Can't wait to see it in action.

FISH ON!
02-02-2011, 06:29 PM
Bryan/Ben:

That thing is looking sweet !! Are you guys completely out of the CVT business? I know Ben will have that thing ripping around the track.

Zach says he wants to join you guys at Aonia versus getting ready for the GNCC FL race. So if we have the Apex 85 shifter ready we'll be running that with the big boys at the MX Nats. The storm out West has all our stuff sitting at a Texas UPS warehouse for the last several days. No telling when we'll get it. Got the Motowoz shocks though.....hope those babies are as good as they look.

Who is doing your powder coating in town?

Todd jones

edwardsp&b
02-03-2011, 07:28 AM
Hey man,
Call me when you get a chance. We are not out of cvt's yet maybe next year. I found a problem on Motowoz shocks you might want to check out. Had to fix mine myself.

We are waiting on our shock from Baldwin motosports for the mod. As soon as it gets here we are going riding. We have been riding with another kid thats 12 on a Cobra rm85. Its really helped Ben riding with another shifter. See yall soon.
Bryan

jerkyboy
02-03-2011, 07:52 AM
Bryan quad looks awsome, tell ben good luck with it.
So much hard work and it looks so good just to go out and get it all dirty.

asadad00
02-13-2011, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by edwardsp&b
For what you spend in a CVT race motor you can build a good dependable Japanese two stroker with plenty of power.

LOL Or two or three, depending on how wild your cvt build is!

I read a comment the other day that made me laugh. I think it was Mr. Havert that said "4-5 laps on the track equals 4-5 hrs. in the trailer working on the cvt" Wow, couldnt have said it better myself!
Bryan
I must be the lucky one, I got a 2-fast we have raced it for 1.5 years now and had not one failure, its extremly fast and onnly pd 1900 including the PVL . You guys are making me worry now , but i got my fingrers crossed for another trouble free season . WhAT KIND OF COSTLY REPAIRS ARE YOU DOING TO YOUR CVT MOTORS? what should i be looking for ?

jandjracing
02-14-2011, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by edwardsp&b
I found a problem on Motowoz shocks you might want to check out. Had to fix mine myself.

What is this problem you speak of?

edwardsp&b
02-14-2011, 07:00 PM
I had a problem with the black ring between the springs. Now I am not at all bashing motowoz, let me get that straight right off. I just ran into a little problem, and found a quick fix for it.

I just installed the new motowoz setup on drr's at Lorretta's. We dont ride our National DRR at locals so we only had 2 rides on the rear end. I noticed after putting it together that it made a little spring noise when compressed down, but didnt think it was major. After riding that day somebody came over and was admiring the rear shock setup. He pushed down on the rear and the shock wasnt compressing just the springs. So I took it off when we got home (luckily we have been riding with a friend that is really good on rebuidling shocks) so we took it apart and found that the black ring between the springs would bind easily going up and down the shaft. I also found where the smaller spring wouldnt let the black ring fit in properly. I ground off just a little so the ring would fit in the spring, and I beveled the edges of the ring so it would slide better up and down the shaft. After putting it back together it works perfect. Im not a shock guy by no means, but I figured what I did was alright.

Kevin, you know more about the shocks than I, what do you think?

Also now after doing that the shock is better than ever! I cant believe the travel this shock has. I hate the rear of the chassis on a DRR, its just not made right. But the motowoz shock makes it as good as it could be. Just wish I had the money to change out the fronts to Motowoz. They are a great product in my opinion.
Bryan

thequadfather+2
02-14-2011, 08:45 PM
Hey Bryan the new mod just looks sick....Love the black paint and green frame.

My motowoz rear shock is making that same rubbing noise. Havent checked it out closely yet though....

Seriously your quad is sick...:D

doonanracing
03-24-2011, 12:37 PM
For a little history on this. This is one of the first mod's built by Fischer, which is the actual building block that JB racing uses for their mods. This uses 250r geometry and allot of 250r parts. Changed brakes and updated spindles and hubs to 04/05 TRX450r. Motowox custom built shocks for this build. This originally was built for Matt Bartosek and we purchased off of Wayne Haggerty so there has been allot of history with this atv which has seen allot of championships titles etc. This winter we changed allot of the outdated braking, spindles, hubs and other items on it. The Atv was completely torn down, repowdercoated and updated with allot of new items for this atv. We are using a cr85 motor with DEP Exhaust.

doonanracing
03-24-2011, 12:38 PM
90 mod

doonanracing
03-24-2011, 12:39 PM
last photo

mini
03-27-2011, 12:34 PM
Well it may not be a mini anymore but when i first built it it had a cr85 when my son was 9 now it has a yz250f,laeger frame.

scotturban
04-01-2011, 12:50 PM
thats a bunch of good looking machines

mini
04-17-2011, 03:05 PM
Sons thinking of going to bikes and may want to sell his 250 hybrid so we're checking to see if anybodies interested pm us thanks.

tonnerre
06-10-2012, 02:48 AM
Hi Edwards
what size of rims do you use at the rear with the Dglas Jr Tire ?

Logan #34's Dad
06-11-2012, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by mini
Sons thinking of going to bikes and may want to sell his 250 hybrid so we're checking to see if anybodies interested pm us thanks.

I'd be all over something like this but the "production" label won't allow us to run it.

eightysix86
08-05-2012, 08:03 AM
250 Raptor, ktm 85, Jb rear ,lone star front, fox shox!

Logan #34's Dad
08-05-2012, 11:42 PM
Any idea what the Raptor85 weighs?

eightysix86
08-06-2012, 04:54 AM
No ,but i would say 300!!!