Im going crazy over a pipe

[RUFIO]

I do alot of drag racing (dirt) and alot of trial riding as well. With that said, I have been going compleatly crazy i cant decide on a damn pipe i hear good and bad things about both pipes and its driving me insane. I had an e-series b4 and loved it but I wanna try something new, but i know the power gains are there. Then my friend has a powercore 4 and the sound it has is amazing but from what i hear and found that the white brothers gives more power. CAN SOMEONE, ANYONE POINT ME IN A DIRECTION HERE

Powercore 4 or E/series

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[RUFIO]

If anyone has pictures of either of these pipes on there 400, please post too, thanks.

[k_train]

Hey, I have heard that the e-series has more power, depending on how many discs you put in it. THe e-series has won the magzine shootouts.

[Extremeracer167]

I jus tlike the feel of the FMF. It seems to have a little more top end to it. And tahts where the 400s are dogs.

[MSL]

wb pro meg

[2fastandfurious]

I went through the same thing and got a used DG to see the gain. Not much. I guess i didnt really expect much otta of it to began with. I will look at dynos of my quad to decide what why i will go. Theres so many companys out there that want ur money for a pipe.....:rolleyes:

[sweet300ex]

WB e series pro meg

[RUFIO]

the e series that come up on a diagnoal, are the slip ons correct? and the full systems come striaght out??

[Dave400ex]

If you want some good power check out Sparks, LRD, TC, Duncan, Trinity, etc. Any of the engine builder pipes are good....

14 HP boost....:macho

[Sparks425Ex]

If You really wanna see some good gains stay away from the Mainstream pipes and get a real one. And engine builders pipe.

Hetricks is Great-Tell them Justin Sent ya.\

Sparks, LRD and TC are all good as well.

[RUFIO]

Its all ricos fault. Everytime i look at that ******* picture of his quad with a powercore on it, then i want one with a powercore on it.

[Ex'r Marlin]

Something to think about... The atv show, if I remember right, is Feb. 14. Usually, all the new stuff the big (and small) companies plan to come out with are on show there.

In other words, if you don't mind waiting, wait to see what comes out after the show. :)

[RUFIO]

Where is it?

[NTPRacing#19]

ye def get a real pipe from LRD or Sparks or Hetrick or TC. those mainstream ones are cheep and put out crappy power compared to real exhuasts with over sized headers like LRD and Sparks

[y2k330ex]

why trouble over a pipe,

If you don't have many other mods an exhaust is only going to be a 1 or 2 hp difference.

I put just a plain old super trapp on my 330 and i love it..good sound, came with a header as well all for a pretty good price(forget i bought it 2 years ago)

I had a curtis sparks pipe, i feel it gave me a lot of grunt but doing it was well i geared down, air filter/rejet and mild porting at the same time, so i'm not sure..

that pipe was junk as far as how it was made, at the time not sure now been out of the game awhile.....it was one piece and i busted a wheelie and took the whole back end off the pipe, pretty sad..i used some pop rivets and it held together ok, sold it that way on the quad....

but anyways to sum it up, look at what you got, pipes arent' going to make a big diff anyways.

By a pipe you like and one you feel good about having on your quad.

[SpeedBump]

I would look for a pipe that delivers the power earlier on and stays smooth throughout the entire powerband. Max horsepower numbers are kinda confusing. Like others have said, you aren't going to get THAT much difference in the different pipes, they all are usually within 1-2 hp of each other.(MAX HP #s) Where the difference is......HOW the power comes on, and WHERE in the rpm range it comes on. Just my opinion.

[hawiianpwr]

here is mine with the fmf powercore4

[luvmyex]

Between those two i would go with the W/B seeing how its adjustable

[luvmyex]

oops wrong pic.i just put a W/B on mine and it woke it up pretty good

[luvmyex]

i have two many pics one more time

[NTPRacing#19]

a pipe is needed for the top end on a 400ex, just my opinion. the 400ex has great low end but i would love to feel my quad still pull harder as it revs more.

[Martin Blair]

It driving me crazy to i am stuck between the TC and LRD, but im thinking aobut the LRD or maybe a Hetrick.

[RUFIO]

a guy at a local shop said that it would be better to throw a set of cams in my quad rather then putting an exhust on and that cams are only 80.00 a peice with 100 labor. so 180 vs. 300 and the cams he says are going to do a **** of a lot more then a pipe

[hawiianpwr]

Yeah but if you open up the exhaust end of it first later when you want to put a cam in it later you can go with the slight bigger one. In my opionion that would be the better way to go if your already planner on getting a cam for you quad anyway.

[DESDAK4]

Buy this one and you will be very happy and still have a little money for other things.

Jay
USAF

[RUFIO]

How much would a slip on be

[Steve-o 400EX]

Originally posted by Rico
14 HP boost....:macho

LOL.:D :rolleyes:

I would recommend the e-series, i got it and its great, as extremeracer167 said, the 400's are dogs in the top end and mine is with the e-series.

A slip on will run you between $211 and $250, depending on where u get it.

[400ex99]

hot cam II average is 120.00, what cam is 80.00? if yur going in the engine, dont just put anything in there !! ask more questions about this cam he told u about.:blah

Originally posted by RUFIO
a guy at a local shop said that it would be better to throw a set of cams in my quad rather then putting an exhust on and that cams are only 80.00 a peice with 100 labor. so 180 vs. 300 and the cams he says are going to do a **** of a lot more then a pipe

Go with the exuast and later down the line throw in a cam and higher compression piston..,,YOu need ta let that thing breath better with an exhaust..

[Brad]

:huhi suggest the coffee can

lol

[luvmyex]

I'd be leary of a $80 cam myself:huh

[Dave400ex]

He was a little off on his prices. Plus the 400ex only has 1 cam.

[Steve-o 400EX]

I'm questioning how much this shop guy knows, $80 for a cam, and he's telling you to get this over exhaust??:huh

Like Rico said, the motor has to breathe before you do that. Get the exhaust.

[RUFIO]

When i was there, this guy really made me look like an a**hole, he was a real dick and like yelled at me for wanting an exhust, does any have something real complex i can say to him to make him look retarted lol:devil

Give him this webpage and the link to this thread..we'll make sure to yell at him as he did to you...:devil

[YZROOSTINYA]

pro meg

[Steve-o 400EX]

Originally posted by RUFIO
When i was there, this guy really made me look like an a**hole, he was a real dick and like yelled at me for wanting an exhust, does any have something real complex i can say to him to make him look retarted lol:devil

First of all tell him he's a total retard for saying a cam will cost $80 for a 400ex, Then start on when he said a set of cams because on a 400ex there is only 1. Then tell him that what is the point of making the engine flow more if there is not exhaust pipe to handle the extra flow. Not having exhaust will somewhat defeat the purpose of a cam.

If he said anything else just let me know and i'll give ya some more fire.;)

This guy sounds like a total :chinese: !

[Andrew400ex]

almost all pipes give the same amount of HP..it might be like a .5 hp difference, just go with something different,but if insist on an opinion, Sparks or LRD..

[RUFIO]

lol thanks steve-o, that should shut him up

[luvmyex]

I like Rico's idea.I wanna yell at him too!

[SuperEX]

I like my E-series slip-on.

[SuperEX]

oops, here it is, dirt and all.

[RUFIO]

Yeah im 90% sure im going to go with the E-series, and ill prolly order it from Rocky Mountain Atv along with a whole lot of other stuff.

[RUFIO]

Yeah im 90% sure im going to go with the E-series, and ill prolly order it from Rocky Mountain Atv along with a whole lot of other stuff.

[nacs400ex]

Whats the cheapest (price) out of these?
LRD, Sparks, Hetrick, TC

Also Is the Hetrick's like the exact same as the LRD ??
Oh ya how much money for the hetricks ?
Their logo on the exhaust(hetricks)... whats it made out of ? cause I would like to shorten my pipe when I get it.

The cool thing is I could get a logo made that said Hendriks instead of Hetricks lol.

[nacs400ex]

This looks like a sticker ?
May be easy to get off to shorten the pipe. Also considering it is almost the same as a LRD, could you get a spark arrestor for it ?

[DESDAK4]

I paid 404 delivered with a new air filter, main jet and the header crush rings and it is ceramic coated. The Logo is just a thick sticker and they actually sent me several more stickers in different sizes so you could move it around or what ever. The spark arrestor is a disc style and they can get it for you for like 45 bucks I think. They are great people to deal with and the pipe is awsome too.

Jay
USAF
AMMO

[300exracer]

I have a wb e-series pro-meg on my 300ex and it woke the engine up preaty good and sounds awsome:D

Hey 300exracer..do me a favor and try to enlarge that pic just a little bigger so that it will fit on the side of a tractor trailer..:rolleyes:

[Steve-o 400EX]

Originally posted by Rico
Hey 300exracer..do me a favor and try to enlarge that pic just a little bigger so that it will fit on the side of a tractor trailer..:rolleyes:

LMAO. haha, i hate that, but then again I shouldnt talk because I dont know how to even post a picture.:huh

[EX_RIDER]

White brother Pro-Meg

Love this pipe!
Can't beat it for the price and it deff. has a larger head size pipe.

[RUFIO]

Now if im running an E-series slip on with a a uni filter...and 5 holes in the air box...what size jet should i be running with this?? (Main & Piliot)

[Steve-o 400EX]

Originally posted by RUFIO
Now if im running an E-series slip on with a a uni filter...and 5 holes in the air box...what size jet should i be running with this?? (Main & Piliot)

I would run a 152 or 155 main and a 42 pilot.

I am runnin a 152 with this setup and its perfect but i live in a little higher elivation than you so i would try the 155 first. If its too rich then down it to a 152. Definately go with a 42 pilot, I would remove the choke while ur in there too. The 42 pilot will make up to the choke when starting, mine is actually easier to start without the choke. Just pump the gas a couple times and it will fire right up.

good luck.

[Jay300ex]

That mechanic sounds like someone that doesnt care if he gets paid or not. You would think it would be a good idea if someone is comming to you asking about something to spend $300ish you would atleast know what your talking about.

[Brad]

the ct racing pipe is supposed to be the best

do they have that for the 300EX?

and i saw the pipe shootout in dirtwheeles and the pipe for the z 400 looked awesome so thats what im shootin 4 when i get a job.

summers comin soon

[RUFIO]

What about the R4, any info on that

[RUFIO]

:huh aaaaaaaanyone

[ny300exrider]

i say hetrick is best...great service, looks,performance,and sound..it may be more expensive than others but the old saying,you get what you pay for..hetricks all the way.other than hetricks my next favorite is lrd,sparks,r-4,and hmf

[PHIL_B54]

your sig says R4???

i just put my R4 on and havent had time to dial it in yet, but what little i did ride i liked, i also cannot compare it to anything but stock, but the quality, and fit was excelent and it looks pretty cool

[RUFIO]

Does anyone have a picture of a wb e-series striaght on from the back

[Steve-o 400EX]

I do but I dont have a scanner.

I love my e-series. I ordered an R4but they sent me an E- series instead so I got it for $211. It sounds cool, gave a diecent power increase and its tuneable for power and sound.

[RUFIO]

I have had the E-series on my 250ex and i know that things loud with no dics, and i didnt rejet my 250 and it gave a very noticeable power difference. So i know the eseries is good but i kinda wanted to try something differnt (t-4 or r-4). Should i mix it up and maybe get luckey? or stick with the eseries:ermm: :ermm:

[PHIL_B54]

here you go rufio

[PHIL_B54]

oops wrong one

[RUFIO]

Originally posted by RUFIO
I have had the E-series on my 250ex and i know that things loud with no dics, and i didnt rejet my 250 and it gave a very noticeable power difference. So i know the eseries is good but i kinda wanted to try something differnt (t-4 or r-4). Should i mix it up and maybe get luckey? or stick with the eseries:ermm: :ermm:



anyone?