2010 Laeger TRX250R Project "Elsinore"

[troybilt]

Well I finally decided on a theme for my Laeger build, I'm going to do a "throw-back" scheme... I came upon this by accident. My frame was "supposed" to be powdered "gun-metal" gray, but ended up textured gray. I was dis-heartened for quite awhile, I spent $270 to get it coated. But as it turns out I think its going to be great for my new "scheme".

"Elsinore" is quite possibly the most famous dirt bike in history. The time was 1973, honda came out with the first production 2-stroke motocross bike. Many of you I'm sure have heard the history, so I thought it would be fitting to do an adaptation of this bike and build the scheme into my new build.

So here is the 74 CR125M, but it had the same color scheme as the 73 CR250M...

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/1974fullCR125.jpg

Here is the original 1973 Elsinore bike:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/73ElsinoreLeftSide.gif

These are 2008 CRF450r's with retro graphics, that will be the baseline for my new graphics scheme:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/throttle-jockey-tank-shroud-graphics-kits-honda-06-07-crf-250-elsinore-package_1.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/390-Elsinore_450x_Side.jpg

[troybilt]

This is the start of my build. The frame is textured grey powder, the rest of the parts are black, chrome powder, and a little bit of gold thrown in.... I think its going to look great. I plan to run silver fullbores with the yellow Honda wing and green graphics, with oval green number plates. More to come, but wanted you to see what I've got started... Tell me what you think good or bad I can take it :D :D

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN0789.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN0790.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN0791.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN0794.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN0792.jpg

[8686]

Awesome idea. I can't wait to see it start to come together.

[danhung11]

Very nice T! I told you it would all come together. Silver fullbores with Black and Green graphics? Some gold accent would set it off as well, too cool man! Some Gold Honda Wings would be badarse! I don't know if Fear250r told you yet, there's only 1 submission per member for the calendars. LOL!

BTW - looks like you have some Elisnore themed trashcans too. :D

[pdxbigfoot]

Really cool.
Please update as you go.

[oldschoolr]

Dude that is going to be freaking sweet.. :macho

[red88r]

That is gonna turn out very nice...I can see it already. Can't wait for the rest!

[dlunn]

I've been waiting for this buildup. Let the fun begin.

[Fear250r]

Looks like you've got an awesome start to what I'm sure will be an awesome build! Can't wait to have some sort of aftermarket build myself some day.

[leager-n-ky]

Looking great so far..

[Pumashine]

Originally posted by troybilt
"Elsinore" is quite possibly the most famous dirt bike in history. The time was 1973, honda came out with the first production 2-stroke motocross bike. Many of you I'm sure have heard the history,

Who are you calling history? JK That was my first real bike. My Yamaha 60 was just not cutting it anymore. Had to upgrade to the Elsinore. Rode it for 4 years until my sister bent the forks crashing into the fence at WOT!

Your build looks really good Troy. Great theme!

[croat1]

f'n NICE

[jcs003]

cool idea.

[troybilt]

Thanks Guys!!! I'll be honest and Dan can attest. When I got my frame back I was like "F----!!!" that doesn't look anything like I wanted... It looked like primer gray... LOL!! I was sure disappointed and there was no way I could afford to redo the powder at $275 bucks a pop... anyway so I got to thinking, at the time both the sub and frame was gray and just looked aweful... so I worked with my coater and he showed me some chrome powder stuff that he'd been working on and it looked great. He said he could do my sub frame and it looked awesome when I got it back so I did a bunch of odds and ends in that chrome powder to offset the dull gray look. I think its going to workout great in the end.

My original idea was far from this, but I've always had soft spot for retro bikes and Elsinore was my favorite of all time. The green and gray doesn't "pop" like bright translucent red or something but I think it looks like all "class" if that makes sense, and fitting since truely the CR250 was the basis for the trx motors, in a round about way... Also I like to do things that are different and I haven't seen this done on a 250r... I'm sure it has somewhere, I've just never seen it...

I'll keep this updated as it comes together. I'm at a stopping point right now until I get my motor situation figured out. The motor that was in it was a 310 XC motor, which I'm thinking about keeping in the bike. The short time that I did get to ride I thought the motor ran great... It just needs to be gone through and cases painted, etc...

Suspension-wise, still floating on that a little. The rear is pretty much set and I'm going with all new Ohlins TTX shocks all the way around... sweetest setup I've ever seen... FW Carbon is helping get the suspension figured out. Unless something changes, that is my plan for now.

That's all...

[troybilt]

Originally posted by danhung11
Very nice T! I told you it would all come together. Silver fullbores with Black and Green graphics? Some gold accent would set it off as well, too cool man! Some Gold Honda Wings would be badarse! I don't know if Fear250r told you yet, there's only 1 submission per member for the calendars. LOL!

BTW - looks like you have some Elisnore themed trashcans too. :D

Yep he told me, maybe 2012 calender. I'm not sure my XC bike is calender worthy anyway. Its still not finished... LOL! I want heel guards and black number plates, maybe some Hipers too, PC my wheels black... bikes are never done though are they... LOL!!

Dan, all I want to know is when are you starting on your Laeger build? I know you've been thinking about it!!

[croat1]

yeh dan...when are you starting your laeger build???;)

[troybilt]

Originally posted by croat1
yeh dan...when are you starting your laeger build???;)

My point exactly... I know "someone" who shot "someone" that has a 2009 Laeger replacement frame... LOL!!

[jcs003]

this reminds me of the dodge ram trucks they did a few years ago. like the "rumble bee" and others. this is definitly unique and to be represented by the legendary trx250r speaks volumes.

elsinore/trx-----a match made in heaven.:D

[danhung11]

Originally posted by troybilt
My point exactly... I know "someone" who shot "someone" that has a 2009 Laeger replacement frame... LOL!!

PM me his info. :o

[atvmxr]

great idea!

[mineralgrey01gt]

definitely not the theme you see each day. I like it a lot. I still want to build me a full blown bad *** 250r with the 1986 throwback graphics on it. That will be my next project which I am thinking about starting here shortly again. I need a hobby lol

[D Bergstrom]

I always wanted to run the "Elsinore" stuff on my CRF450. Never had the chance as I ended up selling it. I can't wait to see what you come up with. Should look awesome when you get it done.

Doug

[regg187]

Originally posted by Pumashine
Who are you calling history? JK That was my first real bike. My Yamaha 60 was just not cutting it anymore. Had to upgrade to the Elsinore. Rode it for 4 years until my sister bent the forks crashing into the fence at WOT!

Your build looks really good Troy. Great theme!

My first real bike too, had a 75 with an Al Baker up pipe on it.
man it was T-rick!!

[TLR-Online]

Looks Great! Im sure this will look amazing when completed. I love the frame color.

What color are you planning to do the a-arms? The ohlins will tie in nice with your touch's of gold!

[troybilt]

Originally posted by TLR-Online
Looks Great! Im sure this will look amazing when completed. I love the frame color.

What color are you planning to do the a-arms? The ohlins will tie in nice with your touch's of gold!

I'm planning on going black lowers, chrome uppers... +3.5" in length. I've also got a brand new chromed Hinson clutch cover assembly, that I might make my own cover for with the Elsinore logo on it and powder coat either the green color or go bright gold with it.

[ARC_89TRX250R]

Sweet! Looks good! :blah:

[LAWLESS23]

subscribed

[maryland450r]

Great choice for theme!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't wait to see it come together..

[finsteratv]

you should try to put an old elsy 250 motor in there to haha. sounds like it should come out great good luck.

[troybilt]

Thanks all!

Update been working the the graphics some, (kind a fun!!). I've been designing these myself and they are a work in progress... LOL!!! see what you think good or bad... I've got a better version of this designed already but I was not able to save to a jpg just yet. Its pretty similar to this (this was an older version), but you get the idea. I still need to add the TRX and 250R lettering. Still trying to figure out what font I want to use...

before the Nazi's jump on here and shut my thread down.... DISCLAIMER: NOT FOR SALE :D :D :D :D


http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/elsinore_graphics3_design.jpg

[SilverLake250R]

Looks awesome Troy!

[Pumashine]

Those are looking real good. Really like the stripes in front.

[Dustin_Drews]

Cannot wait to see it finished! I loved that quad, even won my first race on it... I could not be happier it went to a guy like you that puts that much time and effort in to his equipment!

I took second place on your old quad my fist race on it then we had a bad hail storm hit the house and that ended my season for this year... I will send some pics when I am done with my build!
Keep the pics comming!
God Bless,
Dustin Drews

[hartwill]

those are sweet looking. keep up the good work.

[troybilt]

Update: Finally got the +4 T-pin front end in after the shipping debacle... Waahooo... anyway it is mint near new condition... I installed it this past weekend along with my Precision Pro stabilizer, from a KFX450. The 400ex shocks are just to keep the aarms from sagging down and possibly scratching something. Ohlins TTX's are in the works, unless something changes in the next couple of weeks... Right now I'm hanging onto the PEP rear CR500 shock, but I might be putting that up for sale after I figure out the rear end. most likely a custom Ohlins rear as well.

Also got some OEM decals from Harlan to add that factory "look" to it. I super glued the Laeger decals so those new style will stick... other than that just waiting on my ship to come in so I can pick up some more parts. Decided to build a 302 Nat'l motor inlight of C-Leigh explaining to me that the AMA rules increased displacement to 302 for the 2 strokes...

next on the list is axle, radiator, harness (CR), and a few odds and ends that i can afford right now... haha..

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1053.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1051.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1049.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1048.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1046.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1040.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1044.jpg

[croat1]

looking good troy. i like the "2010" model. always loved the attention to details. a perfectionist just like most of us.

[troybilt]

Thanks Joe, yep I'm a "stickler for details" :D

[Langbolt]

Hey Troy,

That Chrome Pro-trax sure looks Purdy!

I'm really glad you got it and Fed-ex came through for ya!

Now the Elsinore project shall live on!

Keep up the great work!

:devil:

[Pumashine]

Originally posted by troybilt
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1046.jpg

OMG! Sure wish these were available. I guess Troy's way is the only way to go nowadays.

[leager-n-ky]

Looking Good Troy, Harlan did a great job on my decals, SOOOOOOOOooooo Glad your front end was found...

[hartwill]

I hope you are offended when I tell you "I hate you". Lol that is sweet. Keep up the good work.

[troybilt]

Nope not at all!! :D

Thanks!

[skyeryder]

Troy looks very nice!!!! Makes me want to get that 88' frame down and build something else............

[troybilt]

DO IT!!! Hey what good is a frame sitting on a shelf?... haha..


I've got 2 of them sitting on the shelf myself, Ooops...

[Pumashine]

Originally posted by troybilt
DO IT!!! Hey what good is a frame sitting on a shelf?...

What good is a motor sitting on the shelf?

Just waiting for a good home! LOL!

BTW Troy, have you found another motor yet for this project ?

[troybilt]

No not yet, I'm waiting to have cash in hand before I go start looking for motors... I find I get better responses if I'm not BS'ing in the wanted section.. :D

I'm leaning towards Neil's idea of a 300-ish PV motor, but the big bores are still intriguing..

[Pumashine]

Originally posted by troybilt
I'm leaning towards Neil's idea of a 300-ish PV motor, but the big bores are still intriguing..

Thats a good idea, A new ESR 310 PV would not have to have the cases bored and be economical on the wallet.

[KSRRider]

Originally posted by troybilt
No not yet, I'm waiting to have cash in hand before I go start looking for motors... I find I get better responses if I'm not BS'ing in the wanted section.. :D

I'm leaning towards Neil's idea of a 300-ish PV motor, but the big bores are still intriguing..


Looks fantastic Troy. I've sure been happy with my 300cc range engines. What kinda porting are you going to shoot for?

[troybilt]

Originally posted by KSRRider
Looks fantastic Troy. I've sure been happy with my 300cc range engines. What kinda porting are you going to shoot for?

Probably midrange to lowend. I want grunt with this motor. I'm also considering a PV too. 230-240 lbs compression, 116 Octance fuel.

[wild250rman]

Originally posted by troybilt
Probably midrange to lowend. I want grunt with this motor. I'm also considering a PV too. 230-240 lbs compression, 116 Octance fuel. these motors have a good bit of bottom compared to stock. watch you don't loose any mid or top end over rev. you don't want to have to short shift all the time or shifting will be all you do.

[troybilt]

The other option I'm considering is putting my Curtis Sparks motor into my Laeger and buy/build another motor for my XC bike. The Curtis Sparks motor is a 280cc, mid-top ported motor and not ideal for my XC bike anyway. (or sell the top end and pickup another topend for that motor)... I've got a few options.

[wild250rman]

Originally posted by troybilt
The other option I'm considering is putting my Curtis Sparks motor into my Laeger and buy/build another motor for my XC bike. The Curtis Sparks motor is a 280cc, mid-top ported motor and not ideal for my XC bike anyway. (or sell the top end and pickup another topend for that motor)... I've got a few options. bet you feel like a kid in a candy store! lol so many choices.:confused:

[troybilt]

Here's my last attempt and graphics... I'm still not sold on them. I think I'm going to replace the TRX with FOUTRAX, like the 89's have... THE TRX came from the 450r '09 Limited edition model, but it doesn't look right.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/Elsinore_Graphics5-pages.jpg

Here is the fourtrax logo:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Fourtrax2.jpg

[J250r]

I agree. I think the fourtrax would look much better. But those graphics looks pretty awesome

[skyeryder]

I like the fourtrax, better watch it Troy your gonna be in the graphics business next, I still need a set for the USA quad....

[troybilt]

Originally posted by skyeryder
I like the fourtrax, better watch it Troy your gonna be in the graphics business next, I still need a set for the USA quad....

haha... I can only concept designs, I can't personally print them, nor would I want too!! I have someone else do that for me...

USA quad, ehh.. :devil:

[Nac's22]

Replace the TRX with the Fourtrax! This is going to look sick! Would you be doing the Fourtrax in the gold that it says 250R in? I think that would look sweet.

[250Renvy]

Do you already have a seat cover planned?

I think you should look at the old graphic on page 3 and keep the kick start area green, with the silver frame you want that extra color (depending on plastic color)

I think it's nice and clean with just the lines and color on the front and the honda logo.

Maybe even ditch the fourtrax and 250R on the front part and put the fourtrax or 250R in the seat cover.

If you remember each year of the 250R has only 1 fourtrax and one 250R on each side.
86 - fourtrax up front, 250R on side rear decals
87 - fourtrax in the seat, 250R on side rear decals
88 - fourtrax in seat , 250R up front
89 - fourtrax up front, 250R in seat.

[danhung11]

Looks great T, I like the Fourtrax up front. Why don't you hurry up with this thing, so I can take her for a spin. :devil:

[jon370r]

Very nice, looks like a real head turner.

[regg187]

Sure looks sweet, I had a 75 cr125m elsinore. That year they had changed the color from green to red!
Looking at the first set of picture, I have to ask 'with the term elsinore, honda was distinguishing its new 2 stroke line from its normal 4 poke building, why then would anyone put the elsinore name on a honda 4 poke, when honda only put that name on its 2 stroke line?'

[Higgy87TRX425]

I was just looking at your Graphics and I think that you should ditch the TRX and the fourtrax and leave the 250r up front. That would look sick I like your overall design, just make sure that it doesn't get to busy. Looking good man!!! I do like the green by the kickstarter on page 3 better though. The older elsinors were simple and I don't think that you should over do it. Its real close though, just keep tweakin it a little and you have it right where you want it!!

[tritty_wall]

Hey Troy , why did you use a KFX450 Precision stabilizer and not a 250r? will the R ones not mount right to a laegers frame? Thanks, Tristin

[troybilt]

1. It was on the bike when I traded for the bike, so I'm not 100% sure...

2. The narrow frame I don't think the standard 250r one will mount, the KFX is a narrow front...

[troybilt]

Graphics are coming along!!!!!

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/Elsinore_Graphics11.jpg

[danhung11]

Originally posted by troybilt
Graphics are coming along!!!!!


Those look pretty good man, I'm liking the company logos in the light white.

[ARC250R]

Looking Good!

[Higgy87TRX425]

So far thats the best design I think that you've had? I really like that one and I think that you should stick with it! The different companies in white in the background was a great idea! You're on the right track, Keith.

[DnB_racing]

Troy is this the build that is taking the white parts that jason said you got from him??

[troybilt]

No, I bought some white shrouds from him awhile ago. I may end up using them on this build though, since I torn down my XC bike.

[Velvet-Casket]

Honest opinion troy, Its a good looking design, but im sorry i dont think of the "Elsinore theme" when i see those aftermarket logos on your last design posted. I really like the one on page 3....BUT it needs to have silver where the white is. Even the number logos and the stickers that go below the seat are DEAD on!
If you added the silver, I really think you would nail the Elsinore theme with the page 3 design!
Whatever design you come up with or decide to use...I know it will look killer in the end!!!

[wild250rman]

Originally posted by Velvet-Casket
Honest opinion troy, Its a good looking design, but im sorry i dont think of the "Elsinore theme" when i see those aftermarket logos on your last design posted. I really like the one on page 3....BUT it needs to have silver where the white is. Even the number logos and the stickers that go below the seat are DEAD on!
If you added the silver, I really think you would nail the Elsinore theme with the page 3 design!
Whatever design you come up with or decide to use...I know it will look killer in the end!!!

x2

[mineralgrey01gt]

i also agree that the graphics on page 3 are by far my favorite so far

[dlunn]

Agree on page 3.

[troybilt]

I respectfully disagree... haha.. I'm still going with oval number plates... but I wanted a little more flare and new school look.

[skyeryder]

Troy 58 minutes left you need this to rebuild with the quad
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-Honda-CR-250M-ELSINORE-/290509749070?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a3bafb4e

[troybilt]

Originally posted by skyeryder
Troy 58 minutes left you need this to rebuild with the quad
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-Honda-CR-250M-ELSINORE-/290509749070?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a3bafb4e

That would be a fun project too. I guess I just like building things. I need to add a REAL Elsinore to the list... :D

Beaumont, TX eh... that reminds me of Ron White... "...so we took of from the Beaumont Airport, hair care and tire center..." :)

[4x4 AG]

Originally posted by troybilt
That would be a fun project too. I guess I just like building things. I need to add a REAL Elsinore to the list... :D

Beaumont, TX eh... that reminds me of Ron White... "...so we took of from the Beaumont Airport, hair care and tire center..." :)

HAHAH.....He might be right. Beaumont is considered by some to be one of the armpits of TX.

[mattl31]

Looking good Troy! It was nice getting to see this thing in person and meeting you. Keep up the good work!

[troybilt]

Originally posted by mattl31
Looking good Troy! It was nice getting to see this thing in person and meeting you. Keep up the good work!

Thanks Matt, it was good meeting you guys. Hopefully when I get one or both of these bikes done we can go ride somewhere...

All: Update I bought a set of PEP PB1 shocks, so I'm going all PEP on this build. I tried mounting my Floats and they were just too long at 20".

[SilverLake250R]

Nice, Did you get piggybacks or remote rezzies?

If you got piggybacks PB1's, which I think most are, don't get a Walsh radiator like you were thinking of, because they would not clear the shrouds. Although, now that I think about it, it might just be because of the upper shock location on my frame...

Anyway, just keep that in mind, it sucks when you buy stuff that doesn't fit...

[troybilt]

Originally posted by SilverLake250R
Nice, Did you get piggybacks or remote rezzies?

If you got piggybacks PB1's, which I think most are, don't get a Walsh radiator like you were thinking of, because they would not clear the shrouds. Although, now that I think about it, it might just be because of the upper shock location on my frame...

Anyway, just keep that in mind, it sucks when you buy stuff that doesn't fit...

Yes they are the piggy backs. Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep that in mind.... I plan to run my FW Carbon shrouds now, vs. Walsh radiator. Probably pick up a PWR or something.

[TLR-Online]

Cant wait to see some pics of the PB1's on your bike!! Those are SWEET shocks.

Are you sticking with the PEP rear shock that came with it? Revalve?

[troybilt]

Yes, they all need to be revalved though. The PB1's are setup for 190 lbs rider. I haven't weighed 190 since I was a sophomore in high school... LOL... the rear also needs to be freshened up.

[Dustin_Drews]

About the the KFX damper you are correct the regular 250r one will not fit on the lager frame do to the rails being close together!
What did you ever do with the engine that was in the quad? That was the most well rounded 250r engine I ever road. Had grunt on the low end and had plenty of over rev.... All the porting was done by Mr. Hawk himself!
I am glad I get to see the bit by bit as you build it... I sure do miss the simplicity of that quad!
Take care,
God Bless,
Dustin Drews
Prior Owner

[Allison55ex'er]

Originally posted by troybilt
Yes they are the piggy backs. Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep that in mind.... I plan to run my FW Carbon shrouds now, vs. Walsh radiator. Probably pick up a PWR or something.

Any pictures of the FW shrouds mounted? I want some.

[troybilt]

Originally posted by Allison55ex'er
Any pictures of the FW shrouds mounted? I want some.

Yes, but on my other quad that I built:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/my%20250r%20Build/DSCN0962.jpg

[troybilt]

Originally posted by Dustin_Drews
About the the KFX damper you are correct the regular 250r one will not fit on the lager frame do to the rails being close together!
What did you ever do with the engine that was in the quad? That was the most well rounded 250r engine I ever road. Had grunt on the low end and had plenty of over rev.... All the porting was done by Mr. Hawk himself!
I am glad I get to see the bit by bit as you build it... I sure do miss the simplicity of that quad!
Take care,
God Bless,
Dustin Drews
Prior Owner

I sold that motor to help buy the +4 T-Pin for the front end. It was a solid motor. I loved the low end power of that motor...

[Mrs. SFRacing]

Originally posted by troybilt
Thanks Matt, it was good meeting you guys. Hopefully when I get one or both of these bikes done we can go ride somewhere...

All: Update I bought a set of PEP PB1 shocks, so I'm going all PEP on this build. I tried mounting my Floats and they were just too long at 20".
Very smart move,imo.

[Mrs. SFRacing]

Originally posted by troybilt
Yes, they all need to be revalved though. The PB1's are setup for 190 lbs rider. I haven't weighed 190 since I was a sophomore in high school... LOL... the rear also needs to be freshened up.
Are these shock at my shop? I see i have some for a build very close to this,i can help with the shocks if your looking for some.

[troybilt]

Installed my PB1's just to see what they looked like... sweet setup. SF will be revalving these for me soon, same with the rear.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1233.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1234.jpg

Also, getting close to finishing putting my motor together. Still need some new hardware for the clutch cover and ingnition cover, also need another water pump gasket, and kick start seal. I'm going to do something to cut the powder that's covering the HINSON logo etc... it wasn't possible to mask that part off.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1236.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1235.jpg

[8686]

Looks awesome!

[leager-n-ky]

Originally posted by 8686
Looks awesome!



X 2 !!!!!!! I got my calender, Thanks Again..

[rayman375]

Very nice! What are you going to do to get the powder out of the engraved hinson?

[troybilt]

Originally posted by rayman375
Very nice! What are you going to do to get the powder out of the engraved hinson?

I'm going to buy an engraving tool and etch out the powder in the lettering... hopefully that works if not, I'll go with it as is.

[danhung11]

Originally posted by troybilt
I'm going to buy an engraving tool and etch out the powder in the lettering... hopefully that works if not, I'll go with it as is.

Can you keep me posted on this T? I have a CT cover that is the same, freshly coated but over the engraving. :(

[troybilt]

Will do Dan, I was thinking I could etch it then have a clear PC'd over the top of that too...

[rayman375]

Originally posted by troybilt
Will do Dan, I was thinking I could etch it then have a clear PC'd over the top of that too...
I can't wait to see how that turns out, that's the biggest reason I don't PC mine because I don't want the etched letters covered.

[jcs003]

did you consider having a CNC program written based on what needs exposed? you could put it into CAM software and export it from there. get yourself a test piece confirm all dimensions and hopefully, it will remove all the powder(where needed) and not mess up the nice PC work.

just a thought...and i tend to over-think things that might have simpler solutions.

[250Renvy]

Originally posted by rayman375
I can't wait to see how that turns out, that's the biggest reason I don't PC mine because I don't want the etched letters covered.

Most of them are anodized, but that still wears/fades and is a pain to redo.

Has anybody thought about trying to fill the engraved part with high temperature silicone then powdercoating it whatever color then peeling out the silicone? I would think it would act like a barrier like tape and plugs.

[troybilt]

Originally posted by 250Renvy
Most of them are anodized, but that still wears/fades and is a pain to redo.

Has anybody thought about trying to fill the engraved part with high temperature silicone then powdercoating it whatever color then peeling out the silicone? I would think it would act like a barrier like tape and plugs.

I talked to Pappy and my local guy and both said it would be difficult, i.e. next to impossible to do...

[TLR-Online]

Maybe you can send it to someone who ports cylinders? They could probably do a good job, but it wouldn't be 100% uniform.

Maybe you could try a paint marker?

Or have a custom Elsinore cover done! I know their are some people that make their own... I think someone on here has had one done before?

[cdrookie]

i doubt an etching tool will work. i'd just try a dremel with a small sanding drum.

[troybilt]

that's what I'm going to get, I meant an engraver for trophy's and crap... not etcher sorry. Etching is just chemical etching...

[Pumashine]

Originally posted by troybilt
Also, getting close to finishing putting my motor together. Still need some new hardware for the clutch cover and ingnition cover, also need another water pump gasket, and kick start seal.
Troy, I got your clutch cover and ignition cover hardware all polished up today. These reuseable gaskets are great if you need to take the clutch or ignition cover off for any reason (repolish). Waterpump gaskets and DOH!, I forgot the kicker seal.
http://i55.tinypic.com/v73yhi.jpg

Oh yeah, Dan wanted a kit also, so I will be shipping 2 complete kits.

[troybilt]

Sounds perfect Tony!! Looks great, thanks!

[250Renvy]

Originally posted by troybilt
that's what I'm going to get, I meant an engraver for trophy's and crap... not etcher sorry. Etching is just chemical etching...

Just a thought, a paint pen would probably work just as well. It would take a fine hand, but if you get a small enough tip, it would just go in nicely.

Or if you didn't want to go even that far, a little paint in a syringe and a wide needle would work as well. Paint it in instead of etch it out.

Just a thought.

[troybilt]

:blah: :blah:

It WORKED!!! haha... but my battery went dead.... I bought a cordless engraver from Sears, and was messing with it this weekend...

Not 100% perfect but 99 out of a 100, if I had the hands of a surgeon, it would be perfect... :D

I put it on the motor just for effect... I'm pleased with the way its turning out.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1245.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1244.jpg

[rayman375]

Looks good, I may give it a try sometime too.

[troybilt]

I find the inner letters are the most difficult cause with the thicker powder there isn't much of a "track" for the engraver to follow so you have to super steady...

[Pumashine]

Looks pretty good. Its nice to have an electric pencil engraver laying around. I use mine all the time. LOL, mine says Sears on it also.

[troybilt]

It was like 34 bucks, plus 3 for the diamond cutter... from sears.. I figured if I screwed up I'd just recoat it and forget it, but its working pretty good. Like I mentioned, the BILLET-PROOF lettering is a booger, theres not much of a track after the coating.

[SilverLake250R]

Troy, looks better than I expected from the pictures. Could you post a close up, maybe put the camera on macro mode so it's not blurry so we can really see it?

[troybilt]

Originally posted by SilverLake250R
Troy, looks better than I expected from the pictures. Could you post a close up, maybe put the camera on macro mode so it's not blurry so we can really see it?

yes, let me finish it though... now you've got me nervous.. the small letters you have to be extremely steady... LOL!! I should have left them black.

[troybilt]

Here's some close ups... I think i can do a better job, if I was to do it again I'd leave the Billet-Proof Products black or get a finer bit for those... The rest of it looks pretty good, the R in Racing was the first letter I did so its the worst but not too bad.. like I said you need to be extremely patient and have steady hands... well worth it in imo... you guys may not agree, but having one that's black powder coated is FAR better than the anodized stuff that gets scuffs so easily... these are random, I didn't focus on the "best" or anything, just random shots...

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1259.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1258.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1257.jpg

[TLR-Online]

Looks Good!

[sameltoe]

very nice!

[troybilt]

Like a said, someone with a little steadier of hands, or if I did another one, I think I could do a much better job, after the experience... sometimes you just got to pay your money and take a chance.

[TLR-Online]

Exactly, thats how you learn! Atleast when someone asks you about it, you can say you did it.

We have the same keyboard! lol :D

[troybilt]

Apple iMac Pro!!! Su-wheat!!

[leager-n-ky]

Any updates??

[leager-n-ky]

Any updates??

[Higgy87TRX425]

I just checked out your pics, Dammmm! Those look sweet. Thats a great idea as well. Powder will last way longer then annodizing for sure!! I have an old beat up Hinson cover that I'll think I'll get powdered when I go my frame here soon. So you got the engraver at Sears huh? I think I might do black as well. I already have a Blue and red duncan cover so I need ablack one now. lol. The bikes comming along real nice. I like your eye for detail.

[troybilt]

Originally posted by Higgy87TRX425
I just checked out your pics, Dammmm! Those look sweet. Thats a great idea as well. Powder will last way longer then annodizing for sure!! I have an old beat up Hinson cover that I'll think I'll get powdered when I go my frame here soon. So you got the engraver at Sears huh? I think I might do black as well. I already have a Blue and red duncan cover so I need ablack one now. lol. The bikes comming along real nice. I like your eye for detail.

Thanks Keith!

Yea I bought the engraver at Sears. Word of advice though, I would leave the inner lettering and not try to mess with those letters... They are hard to do, almost freehand, since they are not very deep the powder almost covers them so there's not a groove to keep the tool in. That and you have to be really steady.. haha!!


Updates: Yes bike is coming along nicely. I'll get some updated pics this weekend.

1. I sent my subframe, headstay and motor mounts off to be show chromed, should dress it up some more.
2. Bought a Pro Per4ormance radiator from Dan and polished it, and installed my FW Carbon White shrouds, looks sick...
3. Ordered a Precision bar clamp, should be in on Monday, can't wait to see that.
4. Ordered some stainless braided radiator hose -12 AN size. Got it in last night, looks awesome. Its not a stainless hose cover, this is the real deal here... also got some chrome hose clamps for it. Still deciding if I want to gold annodize color powder coat the fittings...
5. Speaking of gold annodized powder, I dropped off some parts to get coated last week. Going to do the grab bar, (possibly) bumper, and some other misc odds and ends for accents.
6. Ordered billet CR ignition adaptor from ESR and CR coil mount from Pumashine... That should finish up my ignition and motor stuff for now.
7. I also bought a fresh bottom end to build another motor. Going to take my time on that though, plan to run the Curtis Sparks motor for now, and build a big bore 350 LED motor or similar with my new bottom end.
8. Picked up a new 450r antifade, just need a galfer wave rotor and I can finish up my axle/rear end. Converting to 450r rear calipers... I already have that.
9. Sent all my shocks to Seth at SF Racing to rebuild them for me. Can't wait to get those back, the PB1's and bad-*** haha...

Anyway, that's about it for now on updates, I'll get pics this weekend when I get some of this installed...

Thanks!!!

[Fear250r]

Originally posted by troybilt
Apple iMac Pro!!! Su-wheat!!

Always nice to see more mac people!! lol

It's coming along nicely Troy, can't wait to see it finished!

[sameltoe]

Hay Troy,
Why would you need hose clamps if your using areoquip type hoses?
Earls has has the fittings in black if you don't want red and blue...

[troybilt]

Originally posted by sameltoe
Hay Troy,
Why would you need hose clamps if your using areoquip type hoses?
Earls has has the fittings in black if you don't want red and blue...

Yep I've got the fittings your talking about, but they use hose clamps and mine are chrome instead of red and blue... Thanks though!!!

[Higgy87TRX425]

I've never seen steel braided hose before that wasn't just hose cover. I'd be interested in getting some of that for the Puma!! Can you post up some pics of it if you get a chnace? Where do I locate that kinda hose at???

[troybilt]

Originally posted by Higgy87TRX425
I've never seen steel braided hose before that wasn't just hose cover. I'd be interested in getting some of that for the Puma!! Can you post up some pics of it if you get a chnace? Where do I locate that kinda hose at???

I bought if from Summit racing:

Here is the link:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-632210/

This is the stuff I bought, I think, might be a different brand but you get the idea. Just did a quick search there. -12 is the right size hose...

[troybilt]

These were the fittings:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SPE-3268/

[leager-n-ky]

Thats what i used also Troy, be careful when installing it. It's like petting a porcupine.....lol

[Higgy87TRX425]

Thanks buddy I think that I'll order some for my setup as well. I like that hose looks like real good quality!!!

[sameltoe]

Just a tip...wrap electrical tape around the hose first were you wana cut it. It keeps it from fraying and saves your fingers lol
Those arn't the fittings I use. I know their pricy...but I like the real ones. No clamps;) I don't know about chrome...but they make stainless.
http://www.aeroquip.cc/aeroquipracefittings.aspx

[troybilt]

Originally posted by sameltoe
Just a tip...wrap electrical tape around the hose first were you wana cut it. It keeps it from fraying and saves your fingers lol
Those arn't the fittings I use. I know their pricy...but I like the real ones. No clamps;) I don't know about chrome...but they make stainless.
http://www.aeroquip.cc/aeroquipracefittings.aspx

I could be wrong here but don't those require the correct end on the radiator and head, clutch cover, etc... to work.. at least that's what I was told. They are not a clamp more like a flared fitting, unless I didn't see what your talking about... otherwise, yea I'd rather have that type of fittings too.. I'm just not seeing it..

That stuff is pokey man, I cut my hand last night testing them out... ouch...

[sameltoe]

LOL sorry man...I wasn't thinking.
I better just keep lurking...

[troybilt]

Originally posted by sameltoe
LOL sorry man...I wasn't thinking.
I better just keep lurking...

NO man no worries, I thought maybe I missed something... This is my first time messing with this braided hose and stuff! Keep on keeping on! haha..

[SilverLake250R]

Troy, that stuff sure is pokey. I put those same hoses/clamps on my 89 last year, and bled multiple times. Worth it though, so they will be on the Walsh as well.

[troybilt]

Originally posted by SilverLake250R
Troy, that stuff sure is pokey. I put those same hoses/clamps on my 89 last year, and bled multiple times. Worth it though, so they will be on the Walsh as well.

Yea, you're not kidding... I'm borrowing a chop saw this weekend to cut the stuff, so I hope to have some pics for everyone with them installed. They look really sweet. Still deciding if I'm going to powdercoat those fittings or leave them chrome. They're not easy to intall, but I think once they are on its going to look sharp!

[trs9102]

Looks good, you going to have this done for the Little Sahara trip?

[troybilt]

Originally posted by trs9102
Looks good, you going to have this done for the Little Sahara trip?

Are you going to have your buggy done? haha.. No its probably going to take longer than I thought, just because of some life changes with the family etc... but you'll be my neighbor so you can help me finish it..

[jcs003]

i cant wait to see this finished. vicariously i live!:D

[troybilt]

Few updates on the hoses, the rest of the stuff I ordered didn't show up yet.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1282.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1281.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1280.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1279.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1278.jpg

[danhung11]

That radiator cleaned up nice, it's a hoss!

Keep the pics coming!

[gtilley45]

Very nice! What kind of radiator shrouds are those?

[troybilt]

Originally posted by gtilley45
Very nice! What kind of radiator shrouds are those?

They are FW Carbon shrouds...

[DnB_racing]

Troy is that an eliminator pipe??

Wow that is going to be a sweet build!!

[troybilt]

Thanks! Nope that's a Curtis Sparks MX pipe...

[TLR-Online]

Lookin good!!

[atv fan 28]

Man, that rad is HUGE! The whole thing is looking awesome Troy!!

[J250r]

Those hoses look awesome! keep up the good work

[troybilt]

Thanks for all the comments!! Those hoses are well worth it, imo... Little more difficult to install that CV4's but much better looking... also the tape trick worked!! haha.. But I still have a few cuts and scrapes... I used a chop saw to cut the hoses, be sure to blow them out with air hose after you cut them..

Here is the hose:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-632210/

Here are the clamps:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SPE-3268/

Probably can find these elsewhere, I just went to summit... for no particular reason.

[bigE28]

looking awesome!! wish i could see the thing in person when you get it done! keep posting pics.

[Higgy87TRX425]

I like those shrouds I have the same style shrouds , but mine are Carbon fiber with a blue weave in them. I really like your white ones though. So you just had the Caron fiber painted??? I like fourWerks products. Your build comming together nicely!!!!

[troybilt]

They are fiberglass, and I think they are either painted or gelcoated... You could paint yours or sell them and get some white ones, Jay might have a set I'm not sure. To do custom, it takes several weeks...

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by troybilt
They are fiberglass, and I think they are either painted or gelcoated... You could paint yours or sell them and get some white ones, Jay might have a set I'm not sure. To do custom, it takes several weeks... I dont think he has any right now,
I just emailed him last week about some shrouds, and he had just sold all that he had,
its going to be a couple weeks before he has another batch ready, and one of those is mine!!!!
but im only getting the carbon fiber im not sure what he has for custom colors,

Higgy I would recomend calling and talking to Jason if you want something special, they sell out quick at this time of year

and I do think they are gel coated if they are the same as the hoods and tank covers, the gel coat gives of a nice deep color and shine, im definatly a member of the Fourwerx fan club lol,

my build is going to have at least a half a dozen of his custom products on it!!!

[ARC250R]

Looks Great!

Cant wait to see her all finished!

[Higgy87TRX425]

Yeah I've been talking to Jay! Thats funny I have 4 of his products on my bike now and I'm waiting on a set of shock guards for my Lobo. I like his products alot too!!! It takes a while to get custom parts, but they look sick!! He does a good job on them and doesn't seem to cut corners at all. I've been very pleased with his craftsmenship. He's got a good eye for detail! Making sure that the products turn out like they're suppose too.

[troybilt]

Just got my Precision bar clamps into today. Those things are sweet. Can't wait to try them out. Very well made, we will find out how they work!!

I plan to run all FW carbon stuff, hopefully showcase the new hood he's been working on.. just not sure if they will be done in time though... :devil:

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by troybilt
Just got my Precision bar clamps into today. Those things are sweet. Can't wait to try them out. Very well made, we will find out how they work!!

I plan to run all FW carbon stuff, hopefully showcase the new hood he's been working on.. just not sure if they will be done in time though... :devil: dont tell me that he has something new!!! I guess another week with out food, what type of design??Troy try and get him to make a high flow design radiator shroud

[SilverLake250R]

Originally posted by DnB_racing
dont tell me that he has something new!!! I guess another week with out food, what type of design??Troy try and get him to make a high flow design radiator shroud

He's got another new one the end of this month, I will be running it on my Walsh!

[Higgy87TRX425]

I know what you mean. My shrouds are awsome and he did a great job making them, but there appear to be for a stock radiator and mine is a PWR. I'm real interested to see the new parts. I have another build comming up and I wouldn't mind some sick new parts!!!

[MR4Engine202]

I think the first design looks the best for what you are doing...the one with the logos in the background are to busy and dont represent the bike your trying to model it after

[troybilt]

Originally posted by MR4Engine202
I think the first design looks the best for what you are doing...the one with the logos in the background are to busy and dont represent the bike your trying to model it after

I hear what you're all saying there's just something not clicking for me on the first sets of graphics. Maybe I need to go back to the drawing board literally. I like the more modern style, but you're right it doesn't capture the Elsinore theme as well as it should to be a "true" Elsinore quad... Hmmm... Let me try again. Maybe something more simple...

The other idea I was going to try was flow the graphics down onto the radiator shrouds, to give it more depth and cover.

[troybilt]

So were all on the same page:

Modern Style:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/Elsinore_Graphics11.jpg

Classic Style:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/elsinore_graphics3_design.jpg

[ARC250R]

I would go with the classic don't forget it will look far more busy once its on the quad with other details to look at.

Perhaps you should outline the number graphics with a think black border to make them stand out.

Or combine the two and have a considerably faded logos in the background of the classic, kinda like a watermark. This will grab eyes and make them look closer when its stopped but look classic and un-cluttered at speed, kinda best of both worlds.

Good luck with the decision.

[jcs003]

i have to agree that the classic style graphics will capture the nostalgia of the ole CR elsinore bikes.

i think once it is stopped. people will look over it with a fine tooth comb and ask a ton of questions. this will negate the need for sponsor/vendor labels. unless, they will throw some free parts your way for the awesome advertisement you are doing:D

[troybilt]

Originally posted by ARC250R
I would go with the classic don't forget it will look far more busy once its on the quad with other details to look at.

Perhaps you should outline the number graphics with a think black border to make them stand out.

Or combine the two and have a considerably faded logos in the background of the classic, kinda like a watermark. This will grab eyes and make them look closer when its stopped but look classic and un-cluttered at speed, kinda best of both worlds.

Good luck with the decision.

I was planning on doing something like this. The modern graphics with the classic number plates ovals etc... So a little bit of both of these designs was my original plan...

[woodsracer144]

Im really digging the classis :muscle:

[woodsracer144]

Im really digging the classis :muscle:

[scotturban]

wow this may be one of the sickest quads ever built, I would go with the classic style personnaly though

[troybilt]

Originally posted by scotturban
wow this may be one of the sickest quads ever built, I would go with the classic style personnaly though

Thanks! ...I'm going to try some things out on the graphics and post back... you all might be right on the classic style...

[cdrookie]

definitely go with the classic style with a black border around the number plates, but i'd ditch the "elsinore" on the sides. too much "elsinore" in such a small area IMO.

[troybilt]

Some more updates:

Installed CR ignition, Precision bar clamps, carb, front brake lines, and preddy overflow bottle... This week, plan to get the rear brakes completed and install sub frame, and hopefully my shocks will be done...

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1299.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1296.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1295.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1293.jpg

[danhung11]

Wow!!!:eek2:

What kind of throttle cable is that?

[troybilt]

Terry Cable, stainless throttle cable.

Do you have an extra carb return spring?

[gtilley45]

Originally posted by danhung11
Wow!!!:eek2:

What kind of throttle cable is that?

Yeah, what he said! :D

[danhung11]

Originally posted by troybilt
Terry Cable, stainless throttle cable.

Do you have an extra carb return spring?

eBay? Was there a specific part # for the 38A/S?

Negative on the spring. This build is sick T, you've got bitten by the build bug also. :D

[KSRRider]

Damn this is a badass build!

I'd be afraid to ride it anywhere other than the sand though :)

[jcs003]

Originally posted by troybilt
Terry Cable, stainless throttle cable.

Do you have an extra carb return spring?

im running a terry with my lectron. these stainless cables are trick. there are like 3 different adjustment locations. i dont know which one to use for what.haha

[troybilt]

Originally posted by danhung11
eBay? Was there a specific part # for the 38A/S?

Negative on the spring. This build is sick T, you've got bitten by the build bug also. :D

Not sure where the cable came from. It was part of that package deal that I traded that 450r roller for. I've got a couple more you can try I don't know what size carb this one or the others is for, I also have the stainless clutch cables too, I'm running a Magura and didn't need it... The throttle cable, seems to work fine on my setup... I've got a make shift spring in there until I find a better return spring...

[danhung11]

Originally posted by troybilt
Not sure where the cable came from. It was part of that package deal that I traded that 450r roller for. I've got a couple more you can try I don't know what size carb this one or the others is for, I also have the stainless clutch cables too, I'm running a Magura and didn't need it... The throttle cable, seems to work fine on my setup... I've got a make shift spring in there until I find a better return spring...

I might swing by this week and pick it up or if you want you can drop it by after work one night. Do you still have the 2-in-1 front brake lines?

Is Elsinore the bike you are bringing down to the dunes?

[troybilt]

Originally posted by danhung11
I might swing by this week and pick it up or if you want you can drop it by after work one night. Do you still have the 2-in-1 front brake lines?

Is Elsinore the bike you are bringing down to the dunes?

yes I still have the lines I saved them for you. I doubt Elly will be done by then, I'll be riding my 89 stocker!! haha.. It runs great, and its super quite, I love it... Going to take it home this weekend to blow the cobs out and check the jetting...

[sameltoe]

Are you guys going to Snakehunt?

[troybilt]

Originally posted by sameltoe
Are you guys going to Snakehunt?

No, thinking of going down the week before Easter, 2 wks before Snake Hunt. I hate when its really crowded.

[QuadforceDavid]

Originally posted by sameltoe
Are you guys going to Snakehunt?

We didn't get to go on one ride last year as a group. That kinda sucked.

[troybilt]

Nothing quite like unwrapping fresh chromed parts!!! Scha-wing!!!

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1388.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1387.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1386.jpg

[gtilley45]

You ain't kidding. When I got my Walsh a arms on my YFZ back from chrome, I was amazed at how good they looked. And that looks like a damn good chrome job too. :eek2:

[DnB_racing]

Troy that is going to be far to pretty to ride! its not even mine and I dont want to See it dirty, I can only imagine how you feel!!

Please just put it in a bubble when finished

[troybilt]

Thanks guys!

Little update, worked on installing the sub frame, exhaust, and airbox this evening... Picked up some new exhaust springs with covers from Trevor at TLR as well as Pumashines coil mount, from same place. Both look awesome, waiting on my shocks from Seth at SF, hopefully they'll be done in the next few days. Starting to take shape..

Still trying to decide if I should leave the airbox polished or powdercoat it. I'm working with my coater on a "special" bright annodized gold look, very similar to my handlebars.... First attempt didn't work out so well, but we've got another plan. :D

Also interested in the heel guard, peg combo pdxbigfoot is working on with that fabricator he's working with. Getting close, still need plastic, hood, seat foam, wheels, tires, and few odds and ins...

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1394.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1393.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1392.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1391.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1390.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1389.jpg

[DnB_racing]

whats on the exhaust springs?

I think you should keep the air box polished, it might take a little more maintenance to keep shinny, but I think it will look better shinny.
and if you change your mind it easier painting it then stripping it

[Nac's22]

That thing looks awesome!!!

[troybilt]

Originally posted by DnB_racing
whats on the exhaust springs?

I think you should keep the air box polished, it might take a little more maintenance to keep shinny, but I think it will look better shinny.
and if you change your mind it easier painting it then stripping it

Those are covers that protect the chrome...

I hear ya, I think I'm going to keep it polished like you said. I was just getting worried that maybe I have too much bling... haha.. is there such a thing? :D :D

[leager-n-ky]

Keep it polished.


My $.02..

[leager-n-ky]

" IF IT DONT SHINE, IT AINT MINE "

[troybilt]

Yea, you're right... more shine the better!! haha... I thought about clear coating it over the polish, but my coater thought it wouldn't be that great of an idea...

[redrider419]

Wow.
That thing will give me wet dreams tonight.

[bknight]

lovvvee the radiator hoses

[jcs003]

Originally posted by bknight
lovvvee the radiator hoses

x2. i thought my clear hoses were trick til i seen those steel ones.haha

never too much bling troy. great looking bike!!!

[Mrs. SFRacing]

Shocks are complete,just waiting on the powder coater we dropped the springs off yesterday,shocks will go great with this build.

[maryland450r]

Man I can't wait to see this all done. I love the theme you are going after with the Elsinore. Looking great!!

[hasbeenttduner]

Originally posted by troybilt
Yea, you're right... more shine the better!! haha... I thought about clear coating it over the polish, but my coater thought it wouldn't be that great of an idea...

Have you checked into clear anodizing?

[Mrs. SFRacing]

Just to give you guys a update most of the springs are back @ the shop from powder,still waiting on the lower fronts,should have those tonite and be ready to ship out for the project monday.Im pretty sure when you see the custom powder and the rear custom mount for the rezzie it will go nice with the build for sure,like to give a shout out to redred55 for his chassis for me to use as a jig for the rear shock hose and custom bracket fo rthe grabbar.

[troybilt]

Awesome Seth, these shocks are going to be unreal! Thanks redred55 for helping with the rezzie mount!!

Got any teaser pics? :p

[troybilt]

Originally posted by hasbeenttduner
Have you checked into clear anodizing?

Sorry missed this post. No I haven't checked into clear annodizing. I'm not sure we have anyone local that does annodizing. I was actually going to chrome the airbox, but was told chroming aluminum was a whole nother beast than chroming steel... i.e. MUCH>>> more expensive. I also thought about clear cermic coating, I might check into that a little more.

My coater is working on a "bright gold" for my project. I went with a gold annodized powder, well its turns out that didn't work out too well luckily it was just a test piece. So he's going to try chrome powder as a base coat then gold annodized powder over the top. My goal for color is something close to my ProTaper handlesbars, not for any particular reason, I just love that gold color... really pops...

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by troybilt
Still trying to decide if I should leave the airbox polished or powdercoat it.

I'm mechanical, NOT artistic, so don't put a whole lot of stock in my opinion, but I think the airbox would look best powdercoated black. It would really make the chrome subframe pop out at you.

[troybilt]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
I'm mechanical, NOT artistic, so don't put a whole lot of stock in my opinion, but I think the airbox would look best powdercoated black. It would really make the chrome subframe pop out at you.

yea, I've thought about that too, going with a wrinkle or flat black to make the chrome sub pop. Then Ithought it would look just like a stock plastic one.... but maybe it wouldn't... I might reconsider.

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by troybilt
yea, I've thought about that too, going with a wrinkle or flat black to make the chrome sub pop. Then Ithought it would look just like a stock plastic one.... but maybe it wouldn't... I might reconsider.

I'm thinking gloss black would look best (provided it fits with the rest of your theme), and still provide enough contrast to bring out the subframe.

And personally, I wouldn't worry about possibly looking like a stock plastic airbox, because I think your goal at that point is to accentuate the subframe.

It's like a girl with pretty eyes, but fantastic jugs. Why would you wear that ugly sweater just because it matches your eyes? You're hiding your best feature in order to bring out your second-best feature. Wear the low-cut top and show off that fantastic rack, it's going to serve you better in the long run.

[J.B.]

^I like where your heads at sir. :D

[Nac's22]

X2, Your statement makes perfect sence wilkin lol

[etccb]

Originally posted by troybilt
Sorry missed this post. No I haven't checked into clear annodizing. I'm not sure we have anyone local that does annodizing. I was actually going to chrome the airbox, but was told chroming aluminum was a whole nother beast than chroming steel... i.e. MUCH>>> more expensive. I also thought about clear cermic coating, I might check into that a little more.


I worked for a USAC midget team way back in 92. Everything for the cars was detailed and polished up. For the dirt car we clear annodized all of the polished alum. Radius rods, oil tank etc etc. It held up great and was super easy to wash and maintain.....oh wait there was no maintainance to the shine.haha. It got pelted over time but I think your airbox would really last.

[Mrs. SFRacing]

Originally posted by troybilt
Sorry missed this post. No I haven't checked into clear annodizing. I'm not sure we have anyone local that does annodizing. I was actually going to chrome the airbox, but was told chroming aluminum was a whole nother beast than chroming steel... i.e. MUCH>>> more expensive. I also thought about clear cermic coating, I might check into that a little more.

My coater is working on a "bright gold" for my project. I went with a gold annodized powder, well its turns out that didn't work out too well luckily it was just a test piece. So he's going to try chrome powder as a base coat then gold annodized powder over the top. My goal for color is something close to my ProTaper handlesbars, not for any particular reason, I just love that gold color... really pops... ARE YOU CHANGING THE FRAME COLOS?

[troybilt]

Nope, just adding some accents.... Like grab bar etc... maybe a few other odds and ends

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by etccb
I worked for a USAC midget team way back in 92. Everything for the cars was detailed and polished up. For the dirt car we clear annodized all of the polished alum. Radius rods, oil tank etc etc. It held up great and was super easy to wash and maintain.....oh wait there was no maintainance to the shine.haha. It got pelted over time but I think your airbox would really last. how did the midgets reach the pedals?

[sand_blaster]

did you get those radator hoses from summit? The stainless steel ones that just slip over the stock hoses?

[troybilt]

Originally posted by sand_blaster
did you get those radator hoses from summit? The stainless steel ones that just slip over the stock hoses?

Those are not stainless steel covers that slip over hoses, those are actually braided stainless hose, and yes they came from Summit racing.

[troybilt]

Update: Got my shocks back from SF Racing... don't think they get any sexier than this!!!!

Fronts PB1's, rear CR500 dual rate zps, 8 click big bottle

If they perform half as good as they look I'm in for a real treat!!!

Check'm out:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1457.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1459.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1461.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1463.jpg

[danhung11]

She bangs! Those do look damm sexy! Are you bringing all three down the next trip? :D

[troybilt]

I need too just so I have one that runs... :o

[sameltoe]

panty drop'n!

[hartwill]

Looking good Troy, nuns you already know this but make sure you use yz250 springs on that expansion chamber and trx 250r springs on the header. Trx springs are too weak for the chamber. Found this out after I blew my exhaust apart about 5 times..

[jbltz450]

Beautiful!!!

[312R1]

Hey Troy,

I think I have a silencer OEM bracket laying around if you want it.

-Steve

[troybilt]

Steve, do you mean just a single hole exhaust braket? or the dual hole? I've got both, I just wasn't able to get the dual hole one to line up right.

[stever250r]

Shocks Look Amazing!!! I swear my mouth starts to water when I look at pictures of your build...

SO CLEAN!!!

[scotturban]

wow them shocks looking pretty nice

[socal]

Those shocks make me want to go out a spend some more $$$,SEXY.Cant wait to see this thing put together.My home track used to be Elsinore and I remember seeing one on display at the vintage races at Glenn Helen!Great idea for a unique build!!!

[norcalduner]

Originally posted by jbltz450
Beautiful!!!

x2 way cool dude :cool:

I confess it would be difficult and possibly somewhat negligent on my part if I were to take out a quad of this quality for a ride for this would belong inside my bedroom if I owned it.

Yup, right beside the wifey ..... actually possibly in between me and her hahaha:D

[troybilt]

Originally posted by norcalduner
x2 way cool dude :cool:

I confess it would be difficult and possibly somewhat negligent on my part if I were to take out a quad of this quality for a ride for this would belong inside my bedroom if I owned it.

Yup, right beside the wifey ..... actually possibly in between me and her hahaha:D

I hear ya, my wife says I've been cheating on her, since I spend so much time with Elsinore these days... :D

[danhung11]

Originally posted by troybilt
I hear ya, my wife says I've been cheating on her, since I spend so much time with Elsinore these days... :D

LMAO!!!:p

[troybilt]

...and my response to my wife was, well if you sat in my garage naked, we wouldn't be having this discussion... :D

[SilverLake250R]

HAHAHA!

[Nac's22]

Originally posted by troybilt
...and my response to my wife was, well if you sat in my garage naked, we wouldn't be having this discussion... :D

It never works out that easy though lol

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by troybilt
...and my response to my wife was, well if you sat in my garage naked, we wouldn't be having this discussion... :D

well its safe to say i got my laugh of the day, thanks Troy! :muscle:

[danhung11]

Originally posted by troybilt
...and my response to my wife was, well if you sat in my garage naked, we wouldn't be having this discussion... :D

You could always make her feel better and offer a chair in the garage, just put a clause in there that wrenching may be required, or at least fetching tools.

Another option would be to contact Fat Heads, and have them make a full size portrait of her and adhere it to a wall. You could put whatever outfit you wanted on her. Remember that standup they had in the movie Major League? Lol!

Dammit Dorn, get it front of the ball!!! :blah:

[troybilt]

Originally posted by danhung11
You could always make her feel better and offer a chair in the garage, just put a clause in there that wrenching may be required, or at least fetching tools.

Another option would be to contact Fat Heads, and have them make a full size portrait of her and adhere it to a wall. You could put whatever outfit you wanted on her. Remember that standup they had in the movie Major League? Lol!

Dammit Dorn, get it front of the ball!!! :blah:

that's a good idea... "Everytime we win a game we peel a section... "..... hahaha....

[leager-n-ky]

I wanted to propose to my wife at the track, but everytime she was suppose to go, something would come up and she couldnt. So my patience wore thin, i had her come to the garage and sit on my R, and thats where i proposed to her. Now she lets me spend whatever i want on it :D ...LOL

[troybilt]

Originally posted by leager-n-ky
I wanted to propose to my wife at the track, but everytime she was suppose to go, something would come up and she couldnt. So my patience wore thin, i had her come to the garage and sit on my R, and thats where i proposed to her. Now she lets me spend whatever i want on it :D ...LOL

That's pure genious right there... So one of her most memorable moments involves your quad!! Genious....

[norcalduner]

Originally posted by leager-n-ky
I wanted to propose to my wife at the track, but everytime she was suppose to go, something would come up and she couldnt. So my patience wore thin, i had her come to the garage and sit on my R, and thats where i proposed to her. Now she lets me spend whatever i want on it :D ...LOL

Hmm, I can only imagine what you did on your honeymoon on top ..... I mean on your R with your wife :devil:

[JohnBeton]

That is going to be a hell of a sweet ride troybilt !

[troybilt]

Bike is coming together, got the seat cover installed and the tank. Ordered up new hood and tank cover from FWC...

Still trying to decide on wheels, shamrocks, hipers, G2's, etc... or some custom OMF's.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1531.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1530.jpg

[socal]

Looking good,I love the gold bars,are those Pro Taper CR hi?I was thinking of running those.Yea,wheels is a tough choice for you on a build like this.Im not so sure Hipers would match,even all black,they may look too new age.Nice work!

[troybilt]

Yes, ProTaper CR Hi bend.. I love that bend and bar setup.

[DnB_racing]

getting real close Troy! looking sweet,
do you have an Idea when the maiden voyage will be?

[danhung11]

If you are undecided on wheels and want to see what Tech 3's look like, just let me know. You can take them and slap them on so you get an idea.

Also, my buddy who races Nationals back home has complete set of CanAm tires take offs - Razr Cross Fronts and Regular Razr rears for pretty good price. He's sponsored through Hoosier, so these just sit.

[socal]

Any updates???Im getting tired of waiting!!!:grr: :blah:

[troybilt]

Yes actually. Working with FWC on a Carbon fiber airbox for it. I bought a CRF airbox and was going to try and modify that for a mold, but the boot didn't work like I had hoped. I really like the cage style filters, easier to swap filters, gets away from the stupid hose clamps.. But they require more space between the subframe rails...

I also want to get away from the 86 airboot since you can't get them new and are hard to find in good condition. Next step is trying a YFZ airbox and boot, like the hybrid guys use... and work on a mold.

I still need to install my Titanium bolts for the aarms, plus working on gettting full set of Titanium motor mount bolts, and swingarm bolt.

Lastly, I sent the drawings off for a 3.5mm Kevlar/Carbon MX glide plate to be cut for it on the water jet...

[troybilt]

Little update:

Just received my Factory 43 nerfs w/integrated heel guards, bought these through Jay at FWC... They look sweet, I'm making some adaptors to mount to the 88/89 style peg mounts. Other than that they should work great. These are originally for 04/05 450r. Steeve at F43 was all about making them specifically for the 250r but he didn't have a 250r frame to use make the jig.

I took a chance on these, and I think its going to pay off. I'm thinking I'll powder coat them black, but kind of torn on that right now. Natural finish looks pretty good too.

Check'em out: (integrated heelguards, stainless wide pegs...)
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1891.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1890.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i260/robltc/Project%20Elsinore/DSCN1889.jpg

[socal]

Those are sweet! I would like a set without the heel guards!Too bad he hasent had a 250R frame to work with,we could have got a group buy going!As for PC black,what are you doing with the bumper & rear grab bar?Black does go good with the green you are using!!!Cant wait to see them mounted up!Keep me entertained,cant do much with this shoulder!:(

[hontrx265r]

I tried getting hold of them about bars for a long time and he never returned one call or email. Figured if you don't want the business I don't want the product, but they do look nice. Glad to see you got some in your hands.

[troybilt]

Originally posted by hontrx265r
I tried getting hold of them about bars for a long time and he never returned one call or email. Figured if you don't want the business I don't want the product, but they do look nice. Glad to see you got some in your hands.

I talked to Steeve a few times, didn't have too much trouble. I thought the same thing about Rath and Houser... I know how you feel...