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bodfper
09-16-2010, 10:41 AM
Can you tell me if this head has +1mm valves by looking at the pics? Also can you tell if it has hard faced rockers? Any other input/opinons would be great as well thanks.

PICS OF HEAD (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-400EX-SPORTRAX-TOP-END-416-WISECO-CYLINDER-HEAD-/290475045746?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a1a97372#ht_3005wt_964)

rooster300ex
09-16-2010, 11:47 AM
nope all u can see is the valve springs.

dalejiw25
09-16-2010, 11:50 AM
Ask the Seller.

bodfper
09-16-2010, 12:49 PM
the seller doesnt know either i just thought maybe you experts could tell by looking at the bottom of the head to see if the valve diameter look bigger or if they have been cut in

honda400ex2003
09-16-2010, 01:00 PM
imo it doesnt look like they are oversized by the looks of it. the intakes are bigger than the exhausts which is how they would be stock. if it had both done maybe but they dont look any bigger in the head as compared to the dome size. i think they would stick out more like wow those are bigger for sure type of deal if they were both bigger. there would not be nearly as much dome with 4 bigger valves. hard to tell though by the pics and if the seller is unsure then i would say they arent for sure. he would def list it if it was, that would be a big sell point imo to get the parts moved compared to others. steve

bherriman
09-16-2010, 07:12 PM
The intake valves are always bigger than exhaust valves. They look like stock size to me. I will say though that the cylinder looks rough, first off I would bet that when they took it apart they honed it to make it look better, however (its hard to tell in the picture) it looks like they just "straight" honed the dog crap out of it and didn't even cross hatch. You should be able to clearly see cross hatch lines in the cylinder. It also looks like they were using a pretty agressive stone when the did it. If it where me I would re-hone it properly so your rings seat correctly.

honda400ex2003
09-16-2010, 07:28 PM
ah good catch, b, i didnt even look at the cylinder. the orange would have me not buying anyway no matter how good of shape it is. steve

bherriman
09-16-2010, 07:32 PM
What you don't think an orange jug would look good? I was thinking about going out and tearing mine down to prep for paint :D

honda400ex2003
09-16-2010, 07:34 PM
it is too orange for me, im more of a burned orange look type of guy :D lol steve

speedfreek
09-18-2010, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by bherriman
it looks like they just "straight" honed the dog crap out of it and didn't even cross hatch. You should be able to clearly see cross hatch lines in the cylinder. It also looks like they were using a pretty agressive stone when the did it. If it where me I would re-hone it properly so your rings seat correctly. This is the worst hone job I have ever seen. I agree with you completely bherriman. Crosshatch should be at 65*. Looks to be dang near zero! And very rough.

bodfper
09-18-2010, 07:37 PM
Thanks for all of the opinions they are greatly appreciated