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inv3ctiv3
09-08-2010, 08:32 PM
Went riding at Zaca Station MX today with a couple of friends, still waiting on more pics but here are a couple.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/4972394353_e7edbf018e_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/4972944680_3833c8c8e5_b.jpg

inv3ctiv3
09-09-2010, 09:31 AM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/4973712539_e05fda1526_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4112/4973712331_5a1b17ca37_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/4973712189_acb568ec02_b.jpg

06typeS
09-10-2010, 12:48 PM
great pics

riotact
09-10-2010, 02:39 PM
Looks like fun.I wish we had some cool tracks around here to go play around on.

inv3ctiv3
09-12-2010, 06:53 PM
Thanks guys, that's the "small" track, they don't allow quads on the really big track....such BS

honda400ex2003
09-12-2010, 06:56 PM
very cool looking pics! steve

400exbullet
09-12-2010, 07:04 PM
Great pics! I gotta get back out on the track again now that I have another quad. I remember the first time I went, I was sore for atleast four day's afterwards. Tossing around a 400lb quad for a couple hours really gives you a workout. I had sore muscles that I never knew I had. :D

mkp
09-29-2010, 05:03 AM
The pictures shown are simply amazing. Even if you are not a fan of motor bike racing, you will be compelled to have a strong urge to go for such a ride. The place shown in the picture is the Zaca Station MX. Looks like the riders had a great time together riding those superb Honda bikes. Even now I feel like riding those bikes. You should always go with your friends to such places then only you can enjoy to the maximum.

KISSmyACE
09-29-2010, 06:05 PM
did you lose or destroy your helmet or something? lol
not being mean or rude at all. just ironic to see the 2011 vortex gear, tech 10s on your feet, and a bionic neck brace with a vega. lol. cool pics though, i like the sequential pic up top!

inv3ctiv3
09-30-2010, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by KISSmyACE
did you lose or destroy your helmet or something? lol
not being mean or rude at all. just ironic to see the 2011 vortex gear, tech 10s on your feet, and a bionic neck brace with a vega. lol. cool pics though, i like the sequential pic up top!

Haha I know the Vega was bought a few years ago I've got my eyes on a Shoei in black and white.

NacsMXer
09-30-2010, 05:58 PM
LOVE the quality of these pics, they just pop :cool:

I think you would really benefit from some taller bars. You look so cramped up and hunched over in the first pics. It definitely helps your back out, and makes it easier to throw the machine around as well IMO.

inv3ctiv3
10-03-2010, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by NacsMXer
LOVE the quality of these pics, they just pop :cool:

I think you would really benefit from some taller bars. You look so cramped up and hunched over in the first pics. It definitely helps your back out, and makes it easier to throw the machine around as well IMO.

That's exactly what I want! Do I need a taller steering stem? What's a good set up, I feel so bent over the bars and it definitely hurts my back.

NacsMXer
10-03-2010, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by inv3ctiv3
That's exactly what I want! Do I need a taller steering stem? What's a good set up, I feel so bent over the bars and it definitely hurts my back.

Glad you've seen the light lol. It makes all the difference in control, and makes the machine feel more custom fitted to YOU.

There's many different ways to go about it. The most expensive would be to get a taller steering stem like a +2 inch. In this case the stem is giving you your height, so you can use a lower bend bar. With a +2 stem I would highly recommend the CR high bend. Don't be fooled by the name, it's a dirtbike bar, so it's not as tall as the stock 400EX bars. But unlike the stock 400EX bars, it has less sweep/pullback making it straighter. That allows a more comfortable and aggressive position when standing over the machine. Too much sweep/pullback is the enemy of aggressive riding, unless you're some type of easy peasy sunday trail cruiser lol. Lastly, the CR high bend has very good width. If you are a bigger guy, which you look like in the pics, you will feel a lot roomier....plus you will have additional leverage in both turning and throwing the machine around in the air.

The next option would be to use your stock stem, and add some risers for the height. I like Rox pivoting risers because you can move/pivot both the handlebars, AND the risers forward and back to your desired angle. This is very customizable so you can get it perfect to how you like it. Then you can add the handlebars of your choice.

The last option, and probably the cheapest is to use your stock stem and add tall handlebars. I much prefer oversized 1 1/8" handlebars since they flex more than standard 7/8" bars upon impact. And they are tough as nails; you will bend the steering stem many times over before you tweak a set of 1 1/8" bars. When you upgrade to oversized fat bars, you need to buy a set of universal adapter clamps that adapt them to your stock sized bar clamps. The adapter clamps by themselves add 3/4" inch of additional height so factor that in when choosing handlebar bends. Using this setup I would recommend the following bar bends for someone of your size (Pro Taper Contour, TAG T2 etc): ATV HI, KX HI, Pastrana FMX, and MINI HI. All these bends have taller than average heights and good sweep/pullback dimensions. The last two are a bit less wide overall than the rest.

You can study some bar handlebar charts over at: http://www.protaper.com/index.html

and

http://www.sixsixone.com/Catalog_TagMetals.aspx?id=e109296f-f544-4395-ac61-06c6691e0a90&product=16644ae5-7348-4418-aabe-709a4780352a

When you look at the numbers it should make sense why I suggest the bends I mentioned for you. It also helps to maybe take a trip to a local dealer and feel some handlebars they have in stock to compare. I've tried a bunch of different bends through my own experimentation, so I sort of know by now looking at the numbers what the bar will feel like.

Hope that helps, good luck with your choice! :macho

inv3ctiv3
10-03-2010, 09:34 PM
Wow thanks for all the info, I want to order this stuff asap cause my back has been bugging me from hunching over the bars so much! I would prefer a cheaper route right now so what's a good bar clamp? Something like this:
http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&vehicleId=3009&navTitle=Handlebars-Control&webTypeId=186&webCatId=12&prodFamilyId=6745&allVehParts=true

I am about 6-6.1ft tall so whatever bar you recommend I'll trust you on it.

Thanks again!

NacsMXer
10-03-2010, 10:25 PM
Ordinarily i'd say to go with the cheaper 35 dollar universal clamps, but the trail tech offers you the benefit of added height. Those wouldn't be a bad choice if you don't mind the price.

For the bars there's a lot of manufacturers but if you get something proven like Protaper Contour series, I would recommend:

ATV HIGH (widest/tallest)

ATV MID (widest/tall but not as tall)

KX HIGH (same as ATV MID but a little less width)

inv3ctiv3
10-03-2010, 10:42 PM
Do you have a link to the generic clamps?

NacsMXer
10-03-2010, 10:52 PM
Universal clamps from Rocky Mountain

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&webTypeId=241&navTitle=Handlebars-Control&webCatId=12&prodFamilyId=3154

If you use the universal clamps it will be lower overall than the trail tech clamps or +2 rox risers. So you will want the tallest bar you can get on there. In that case i'd go with the ATV Hi.

inv3ctiv3
10-03-2010, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by NacsMXer
Universal clamps from Rocky Mountain

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&webTypeId=241&navTitle=Handlebars-Control&webCatId=12&prodFamilyId=3154

If you use the universal clamps it will be lower overall than the trail tech clamps or +2 rox risers. So you will want the tallest bar you can get on there. In that case i'd go with the ATV Hi.

Ok I am gonna order those adapters and the ATV hi bend bars! Thanks again for all the help man!

NacsMXer
10-04-2010, 10:51 AM
On second thought I would go with these Tusk handlebar risers in 1 1/8" instead of the universal adapters. They are cheaper than the adapters at $20 and serve the same purpose. You are going to need all the height you can get. These don't pivot like the Rox risers so less adjustability, but you will get the height you are looking for.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&webTypeId=241&navTitle=Handlebars-Control&webCatId=12&prodFamilyId=25849

Hopefully you read this post before you order them....sorry about that! :ermm:

Ian400ex
10-04-2010, 02:37 PM
No quality tracks around me within an hour. :ermm:

Anyways, looks fun!

inv3ctiv3
10-04-2010, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by NacsMXer
On second thought I would go with these Tusk handlebar risers in 1 1/8" instead of the universal adapters. They are cheaper than the adapters at $20 and serve the same purpose. You are going to need all the height you can get. These don't pivot like the Rox risers so less adjustability, but you will get the height you are looking for.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&webTypeId=241&navTitle=Handlebars-Control&webCatId=12&prodFamilyId=25849

Hopefully you read this post before you order them....sorry about that! :ermm:

Ha thankfully I hadn't ordered yet!

Ian400ex
10-04-2010, 03:18 PM
How tall are you, inv3ctiv3?

inv3ctiv3
10-04-2010, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Ian400ex
How tall are you, inv3ctiv3?

About 6-6.1ft

Ian400ex
10-04-2010, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by inv3ctiv3
About 6-6.1ft
Haha 5-3 here, somewhat stocky.

inv3ctiv3
10-06-2010, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by NacsMXer
On second thought I would go with these Tusk handlebar risers in 1 1/8" instead of the universal adapters. They are cheaper than the adapters at $20 and serve the same purpose. You are going to need all the height you can get. These don't pivot like the Rox risers so less adjustability, but you will get the height you are looking for.

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&webTypeId=241&navTitle=Handlebars-Control&webCatId=12&prodFamilyId=25849

Hopefully you read this post before you order them....sorry about that! :ermm:

Hey man,
So those tusk risers were 1 1/8th to 1 1/8th not 7/8th to 1 1/8th....So I got it all apart and went to put the risers on and they wont' fit the stock bar clamps :( Now what should I get?

NacsMXer
10-06-2010, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by inv3ctiv3
Hey man,
So those tusk risers were 1 1/8th to 1 1/8th not 7/8th to 1 1/8th....So I got it all apart and went to put the risers on and they wont' fit the stock bar clamps :( Now what should I get?

aww man, I feel really bad suggesting them to you now. I had no clue they were going to be 1 1/8 to 1 1/8. I apologize, I was merely suggesting them as a cheaper alternative, but I had never actually used them before.

Now the Rox risers, I have used, and was what I originally was leaning towards for your setup. It's just they cost a little more, so I was looking into cheaper solutions like the adapters and the tusk risers. But in the back of my mind I kept thinking, "this guy's 6'6", he's gonna need those +2 Rox Risers!"

I would go with the 7/8 to 1 1/8" 2 in Rox pivoting risers. These are SURE to fit your stock bar clamps and will adapt to the fat bars at the same time. And go with the ATV high bends you were going to go with. That should be the setup you need i'm sure. Shop on Ebay for them for the best price.

And also keep in mind that you will probably need to get extended front brake lines as well as cables. I would try to fit the entire setup first, and see what needs extending. I'm going to guess that you will need a longer throttle cable, MAYBE a clutch cable, and MAYBE a +1 front brake line setup. I can't say for sure since I don't run as tall of a setup myself.

Sorry again for the inconvenience
:o

inv3ctiv3
10-06-2010, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by NacsMXer
aww man, I feel really bad suggesting them to you now. I had no clue they were going to be 1 1/8 to 1 1/8. I apologize, I was merely suggesting them as a cheaper alternative, but I had never actually used them before.

Now the Rox risers, I have used, and was what I originally was leaning towards for your setup. It's just they cost a little more, so I was looking into cheaper solutions like the adapters and the tusk risers. But in the back of my mind I kept thinking, "this guy's 6'6", he's gonna need those +2 Rox Risers!"

I would go with the 7/8 to 1 1/8" 2 in Rox pivoting risers. These are SURE to fit your stock bar clamps and will adapt to the fat bars at the same time. And go with the ATV high bends you were going to go with. That should be the setup you need i'm sure. Shop on Ebay for them for the best price.

And also keep in mind that you will probably need to get extended front brake lines as well as cables. I would try to fit the entire setup first, and see what needs extending. I'm going to guess that you will need a longer throttle cable, MAYBE a clutch cable, and MAYBE a +1 front brake line setup. I can't say for sure since I don't run as tall of a setup myself.

Sorry again for the inconvenience
:o

Ok I might just get those universal risers for right now (I'm 6'1 not 6'6 haha). Thanks for all the help! It's not big deal I am gonna try and return those other ones.

NacsMXer
10-06-2010, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by inv3ctiv3
Ok I might just get those universal risers for right now (I'm 6'1 not 6'6 haha). Thanks for all the help! It's not big deal I am gonna try and return those other ones.

They should really specify with the risers on the clamp size. On the page, the only choices they give you are 7/8" or 1 1/8"...what about the clamp size durr? I assumed they would be 7/8 at the clamps, that was my bad.

I still feel bad about it, lol sorry again bro. Well being 6'1" I think you can get away with the adapters and not have to get into extended cables and all that. Now that you have the Tusk Risers in 1 1/8", what you COULD do is hang on to them just in case the universal adapter clamps + the ATV high bends aren't enough for you. If it isn't tall enough for your liking, bolt the risers on top of the adapter clamps (now that we know it's 1 1/8 to 1 1/8), and boom...instant 1 inch increase in rise. If you like the height with the adapters + the bars only, then return the risers. Just a thought.

Either way you will probably have to unbolt the mount for the front brake line at the top steering stem support clamp for some additional slack (just one bolt coming off the clamp frees the line up some). Check the cables to make sure nothing's getting tight. It will be borderline on needing longer cables, you may need them you may not.

BTW here's a couple of pics of my setup. I run the stock stem/clamps, universal adapter clamps on top of them, and Fly 1 1/8" Mini bend bars. I'm only 5'7" and they are taller than most people's setups, but it fits me perfect when riding. I used to run a lot lower bars and it's way more comfortable now. The Mini bends are almost as tall as the ATV high bends and not as wide overall just to give you an idea. Be sure to post pics of your new setup when you get it all on if you could. We all know you can take some sick pics! :macho

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/6756/dsc0380bi.jpg (http://img830.imageshack.us/i/dsc0380bi.jpg/)

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9397/dsc0365a.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/i/dsc0365a.jpg/)

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3779/dsc0375l.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/dsc0375l.jpg/)

inv3ctiv3
10-06-2010, 09:07 PM
Damn man that's a good looking bike! I like the idea of using both adapters.

NacsMXer
10-06-2010, 09:10 PM
Thanks a lot man, she just got a recent frame off rebuild this past winter/spring so it's pretty fresh lol. I finally got my color combos the way I wanted :cool:

Yeah let us know how it all works out for ya. Hopefully there won't be an issue with the clamps thread pitch or some nonsense now lol :rolleyes: But this stuff is supposed to be pretty "universal" so hopefully it works out which I think it should :)

bkelley
10-06-2010, 09:42 PM
I've got the Tusk risers and +2 arms and I still run the stock lines without any problems. The risers definitely helped, but I could still use more height when standing (I'm 6'5"). I'm gonna get a +2 stem eventually.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs582.snc3/30717_396290843030_582683030_4241294_4881816_n.jpg

inv3ctiv3
10-08-2010, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by bkelley
I've got the Tusk risers and +2 arms and I still run the stock lines without any problems. The risers definitely helped, but I could still use more height when standing (I'm 6'5"). I'm gonna get a +2 stem eventually.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs582.snc3/30717_396290843030_582683030_4241294_4881816_n.jpg

Damn another great looking quad! That pic reminds me I need new front tires BAD, how'd you run the risers? Or are you still running 7/8th handlebars?

bkelley
10-08-2010, 12:16 PM
I have Tag T2s with a Tag oversized clamp and the 1 1/8" risers.

NacsMXer
10-08-2010, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by bkelley
I have Tag T2s with a Tag oversized clamp and the 1 1/8" risers.

That's cool, at least now he knows for sure he can use the universal adapter clamps and the risers together if he likes!

Nice quad and cool pic by the way :cool: