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tri5ron
08-15-2010, 12:30 PM
This sucks.
It is at one of my favorite places to ride.

Thoughts and prayers to all the people killed, hurt, and their families.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gB9jnKObPfaIQty58BGWr_bTtMlQD9HJS6I00

HondaRacing83
08-15-2010, 01:07 PM
ya i read about that,it really sucks,R.I.P. All....

toby400ex
08-15-2010, 02:21 PM
That does suck and I feel bad for the people killed and injured. This chit is bound to happen when people stand so close to a track with no fences or guard rails when full size trucks and buggies are flying past you with their foot to the floor. I feel bad for the driver, obviously they did not mean to do this and people started throwing rocks at them? WTF?

yellowzo3
08-15-2010, 02:44 PM
I don't think anyone's surprised and it's crazy to see that it's taken this long for something like this to happen. It's sad indeed, but there are countless videos on the web showing people running across the course in front of the trucks, standing in a crowd on/near the course and moving aside AS trucks are coming, and just plain standing 1 foot away from trucks doing 100mph through terrain a regular truck couldn't even cross.

I can't believe the spectators were pissed at the driver. Anyone with a grain of common sense knows not to stand next to things that are traveling at 100mph through rocky desert.

The worst part is that people gather around at the most dangerous parts of the track to watch crashes and insane jumps happen. They never watch from safe distances or stay at the safer/smoother sections of the race.

I feel bad for all those who were injured and killed, but they really have no one to blame but themselves.

I wonder if this will strike up some new rules for spectators. You can't exactly put a fence up along the entire course so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

toby400ex
08-15-2010, 02:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JTJey1B3jY

Is anyone surprised this happened? A bunch of idiots standing feet from the trucks. The articles says they were 10 feet away from the track. These people are obviously close enough to reach out and smack the truck as it flys by.

yellowzo3
08-15-2010, 03:01 PM
EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Notice how they all gather round the area where the trucks jump slightly downhill. It is NO fault of the driver that people were injured/killed. Yes, he crashed. THAT'S DESERT RACING. Trucks crash all the time.

You can even hear someone telling people to get off the track when the morons all run into the middle of the road to look at the crash. :rolleyes:

I will be furious if the driver is punished in any way because of this.

bens250ex
08-15-2010, 04:25 PM
crashes are part of racing yes there should be rules about people shouldn't stand so close to the track but i also think alot of the crowd doesn't have commom sense there is no way i would stand anywhere close to the edge without somethin between me and the trucks, anything can happen in a flash so you always got to think about though.. very sad story prayers sent for the fams.

DnB_racing
08-15-2010, 04:31 PM
it is terrible for the victims and the sport!!! its accidents like this that close riding areas and stop production and building of certain off road vehicles

mxduner
08-15-2010, 06:04 PM
That is just awful. My prayers go out to the victims friends and family, also to the driver and his friends and family.

Ichoptop
08-16-2010, 07:26 AM
There are rules posted for the spectators on how close they can be to the track. But these half wits never follow them.

My thought are for the driver. He will live with this the rest of his life and think about it daily. As a racer we are willing to break bones, possibly die and go through the expense to do what we love to do. Killing someone while doing it doesnt fit into the equation and is a price not many could pay.

tri5ron
08-16-2010, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by Ichoptop
There are rules posted for the spectators on how close they can be to the track. But these half wits never follow them.

My thought are for the driver. He will live with this the rest of his life and think about it daily. As a racer we are willing to break bones, possibly die and go through the expense to do what we love to do. Killing someone while doing it doesnt fit into the equation and is a price not many could pay.
Very true and well said.
It has been reported that when the driver tried to help some of those who were hurt, The crowd became angry with him, and started throwing rocks at him.
He was forced to flee the area for his own saftey.
This coming from the same idiots who have also been reported as trying to touch some of the trucks as they raced by.

finsteratv
08-16-2010, 06:05 PM
crashes are part of racing. and in a high speed off road setting things can happen in a flash. i feel sorry for the driver and familys of the injured and deceased. but it all goes back to common sense

Tommy Warren
08-16-2010, 11:14 PM
thoughts and prayers to the killed and injured and also to the driver who was not at fault in my eyes....You can't stand on a train track then throw rocks at the engineer when he hits somone:rolleyes:

well put IChopTop

D Bergstrom
08-16-2010, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by tri5ron
Very true and well said.
It has been reported that when the driver tried to help some of those who were hurt, The crowd became angry with him, and started throwing rocks at him.
He was forced to flee the area for his own saftey.

I heard this also, heard it came from a news channel that covered the story. I heard from numerous sources that it was UNTRUE, one of those sources was the highway patrol.

Prayers go to the families of the victims, especially the driver. As Ichoptop said, he has to live with this for the rest of his life, and he is not to blame. I have been around desert racing for half my life, and would never be anywhere near a live course.

Doug

slightlybent47
08-17-2010, 12:18 AM
This was a huge tragedy and my thoughts and prayers go to both the driver and spectators. I also think it’s crazy to stand so close to the track, but I herd on a news report that there is a rule for the racers that if they are within 50 feet from the spectators that it was considered to be like a yellow caution and they were to slow to 15 mph and there was no passing during a caution, or until they cleared the spectators.

But I have also seen reports and video about desert racing how spectators will dig out and alter the jumps so when they come by thinking it’s a small jump they crash and the whole crowd cheers and celebrates while the driver gets hurt and destroys his machine. I’m not saying that’s the case here but I can’t understand what these people are thinking.

RIP to all those killed.

mxduner
08-19-2010, 09:02 PM
here (http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/racing/news/story?id=5476828&campaign=rss&source=twitter&ex_cid=Twitter_espn_5476828)

tri5ron
08-20-2010, 03:22 PM
more stuff...

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100817/FREE/100819857

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/08/california-200-and-other-races-foster-dangerous-mad-max-atmosphere-critics-say.html

http://us.mc595.mail.yahoo.com/mc/showMessage?sMid=25&&filterBy=&.rand=306937579&midIndex=25&mid=1_1419179_AKUMDUwAAUrBTG2qvAfUMF2yC%2Fs&fromId=tellier@mindspring.com

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-08-15-crash-race-california_N.htm

honda400ex2003
08-20-2010, 05:51 PM
my sympathies go out to all for such a bad event taking place. thus starts another tree hugger rebellion on sports because of careless spectators not following the rules. now we as a group of outdoor enthusiasts have to fight back against them to keep the sports we love. sad to see such a story unfold. :( steve

mxduner
08-20-2010, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by tri5ron
more stuff...

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100817/FREE/100819857

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/08/california-200-and-other-races-foster-dangerous-mad-max-atmosphere-critics-say.html

http://us.mc595.mail.yahoo.com/mc/showMessage?sMid=25&&filterBy=&.rand=306937579&midIndex=25&mid=1_1419179_AKUMDUwAAUrBTG2qvAfUMF2yC%2Fs&fromId=tellier@mindspring.com

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-08-15-crash-race-california_N.htm unfortunately i read the la times article f n tree huggers

tri5ron
08-20-2010, 11:29 PM
Could this POSSIBLY be ? ! ???
The BLM is using their heads to think ???
I'm shocked!!!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/08/mojave-desert-off-road-race-approved-for-this-weekend-following-deadly-crash.html


Blm's official statement....

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ca/pdf/caso/johnsonvalley.Par.26891.File.dat/BLMStatement-reJohnsonValley.pdf