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jpfmotors
08-11-2010, 02:22 PM
I am building a 416 stage 2 cam 400ex for xc racing was wondering what the common a arms for xc and how wide (Measurment) it would make the quad I would like to be around 47 inches wide compressed thanks for the help
416racer
08-11-2010, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by jpfmotors
I am building a 416 stage 2 cam 400ex for xc racing was wondering what the common a arms for xc and how wide (Measurment) it would make the quad I would like to be around 47 inches wide compressed thanks for the help
I'm not totally sure but I think that is close to stock width. I run +2 arms with a 4-1 off set wheel so I'm only 2" wider than stock. I fit through our xc tracks ok and we have some tight stuff around here!.
honda400ex2003
08-11-2010, 02:34 PM
that is a good option along with +1s with regular 3:2 offset rims. it depends on how narrow the xc trails will actually be i suppose. lol steve
416racer
08-11-2010, 02:41 PM
There's not alot of selections when It comes to +1 arms. I get mine from Wicked products and he don't make them +1. I've read and heard that a 4-1 offset is better for handiling due to less wheel scrub(or something like that)
honda400ex2003
08-11-2010, 03:41 PM
agreed there :( it is possible i have heard the same on the rims. there are so many ways to go about getting the same width :D i know dallas likes his 4:1 offsets with the 3s and would probably do it with 2s if he was going to get a narrower setup. he has his set up for more of the mx style of build so he likes the 3s. if it was me running woods, i would leave the stock width and get some 2:3 rims and be good to go. you will be about 1" wider total which would be good for the tight trails i ride and it would be much cheaper for me. the arms do look nice though so you have to factor that into the equation. lol steve:devil:
gtt416ex
08-11-2010, 03:55 PM
with burgard +2's and stock wheels, mine sets at 47.25".

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk34/crg10493/100_1652.jpg
slightlybent47
08-11-2010, 04:18 PM
From all the info I have seen, it goes like this.

If you look at the quad from the front you’ll see the front ball joints, the farther the ball joint is from the center of the front tire will have a negative affect on bump steer. You can run +2 but use a rim that pushes the center of the tire closer to the ball joint, this will give you a little bit more travel but still keep the bike the same width and will reduce bump steer.
gtt416ex
08-11-2010, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by slightlybent47
From all the info I have seen, it goes like this.

If you look at the quad from the front you’ll see the front ball joints, the farther the ball joint is from the center of the front tire will have a negative affect on bump steer. You can run +2 but use a rim that pushes the center of the tire closer to the ball joint, this will give you a little bit more travel but still keep the bike the same width and will reduce bump steer.

well said, i plan on buyin 4+1 front wheels soon because the bump steer got worse when i put my +2's on.
jpfmotors
08-12-2010, 05:13 AM
sounds like +1 or +2 and 4-1 0ffset rims is were iam headed
jedneck
08-12-2010, 06:37 PM
I run +1 and 4:1
Honda#4
08-13-2010, 10:20 AM
If I could buy a XC setup i'd go with +2's and 4:1 wheels, that way you have alittle added width but with less bumpsteer.

The only thing with 4:1 offset is, it may come close to the ball joint or heims, with my Roll setup the top heims comes fairly close to the inner lip of the rim but does not come in conctact with it even when compressed.

Just something to look out for.