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IRISH-RACER-14
07-13-2010, 01:15 PM
anybody know which manaul is better? clymer seems to be more popular

CJM
07-13-2010, 01:16 PM
honestly I like the haynes better b/c it is usually written from the perspective of a complete tear downa nd rebuild.

I would buy both, I have both plus the factory manuals for one truck I have.

IRISH-RACER-14
07-13-2010, 01:20 PM
does anybody know the disadvantages and advantages to both? im want to do a rebuild soon and i want to know which one is better

yellowzo3
07-13-2010, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by CJM
honestly I like the haynes better b/c it is usually written from the perspective of a complete tear downa nd rebuild.

I would buy both, I have both plus the factory manuals for one truck I have.

I agree with getting both! They're fairly cheap and you can never have too much knowledge with stuff like that. I do see Clymer manuals for sale more in atv dealerships and shops though.

fastredrider44
07-13-2010, 02:06 PM
Disadvantages is when directions for removal of a part saying, remove _______, when really, that part is complicated to remove. I have Haynes manuals for all my trucks, but can usually figure it out on my own better than reading an unclear direction. I usually do refer to it when it's something I have never done before.

smr
07-13-2010, 02:10 PM
I actually prefur the factory manuel.

wilkin250r
07-13-2010, 02:14 PM
I have a Haynes manual for a Polaris Trailblazer, and it's junk. Missing stuff, directing me to sections that don't exist, ect ect ect.

I've also seen the same problem with Haynes car manuals.

Personally, whenever I'm shopping, I generally look for any manual OTHER than Haynes.

firefighterjosh
07-13-2010, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by fastredrider44
Disadvantages is when directions for removal of a part saying, remove _______, when really, that part is complicated to remove. I have Haynes manuals for all my trucks, but can usually figure it out on my own better than reading an unclear direction. I usually do refer to it when it's something I have never done before.

Like when it says "pull on part A to remove" but they forget to mention there was a lock ring inside that rusted and holding it up while the entire time but you where going over and over and over again of what you could have forgotten to take off only to find out you need to smack it with a big hammer:scary: :ermm: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Should have read "pull on part A to remove, be aware of snap ring holding part A that could hang it up" <<<<<:mad: :mad: :mad:

CJM
07-13-2010, 02:33 PM
ymmv but it helps if you got a clue wtf your doing anyways. IE: I dont need a manual to do most things but its handy to have one. But then again not everyone is mechanically inclined either.

I can say that I find the honda factory manual SEVERELY lacking compared to most other factory manuals I have used. Ex: my toyota manual and ford truck manuals really show detaila nd show step by step how to do stuff,with good pictures!

IRISH-RACER-14
07-13-2010, 02:42 PM
do honda make a service manual for their atvs?
its for a 300ex, ive seen both clymer and haynes for $20 each.

wilkin250r
07-13-2010, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by IRISH-RACER-14
do honda make a service manual for their atvs?
its for a 300ex, ive seen both clymer and haynes for $20 each.

They do, but they're often difficult to get a hold of (you won't find them at dealerships, ebay seems to be best) and they're often expensive.

fastredrider44
07-13-2010, 03:51 PM
I thought we were talking vehicles. For a fourwheeler, I definately prefer the factory service manual, however you need to have a pretty good idea of what you're doing to be able to use a factory manual. Clymer seems to be OK on some of the applications I have used.

IRISH-RACER-14
07-13-2010, 04:11 PM
i think im going to buy a clymer manual for $23.30

BuB400
07-13-2010, 05:10 PM
Spend the $45 and get a Honda factory manual.

IRISH-RACER-14
07-13-2010, 05:38 PM
is it worth it? they are 65 on ebay

wilkin250r
07-13-2010, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by fastredrider44
I thought we were talking vehicles.

:huh :huh :huh :huh

When was the last time you saw a Clymer manual for a Ford Tempo?!?

IRISH-RACER-14
07-13-2010, 06:47 PM
you guys please stay on topic

honda400ex2003
07-13-2010, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by smr
I actually prefur the factory manuel.

x2 i like the factory best too steve

01 400EXer
07-14-2010, 06:45 AM
Buy a factory service manual. I bought one from the dealer for $40. Check with the local dealer and see what their price is before you buy on ebay. The price may suprise you.

IRISH-RACER-14
07-14-2010, 07:12 AM
ok thank you.

fastredrider44
07-14-2010, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by wilkin250r
:huh :huh :huh :huh

When was the last time you saw a Clymer manual for a Ford Tempo?!?

I didn't know. I'm not an expert on manuals. Don't use them much. I don't shop around.

IRISH-RACER-14
07-14-2010, 10:40 AM
found a used honda service manual online for 30. good deal. their shouldnt be any mistakes on a factory manual like you guys said there is on the clymer and haynes manuals?

Chino
07-14-2010, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by IRISH-RACER-14
found a used honda service manual online for 30. good deal. their shouldnt be any mistakes on a factory manual like you guys said there is on the clymer and haynes manuals?

I wouldnt' say that any manual isn't going to be 100% clear cut and mention every minor detail. Honestly with all of the questions you have been asking and the lack of clairity it doesn't sound like you are to comfortable doing the re-build so it may not be the best idea. You start messing with something you know absolutley nothing about it's not going to come out good. To each his own though.

wilkin250r
07-14-2010, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by Chino
I wouldnt' say that any manual isn't going to be 100% clear cut and mention every minor detail. Honestly with all of the questions you have been asking and the lack of clairity it doesn't sound like you are to comfortable doing the re-build so it may not be the best idea. You start messing with something you know absolutley nothing about it's not going to come out good. To each his own though.

Yeah, but if you subscribe to the philosophy 100%, you'll never try anything or learn anything new.

IRISH-RACER-14
07-14-2010, 12:15 PM
i dont think i have much to loose with messing around with a $75 motor. the book should help also and my father is a heavy vechicle mechanic