oil?

[hartwill]

what kind of oil and ratio do you guys use? I was using golden spectre @ 50:1 then I switched to klotz tecniplate @ 40:1 because that's what my friends use and its just easier than remembering who's is who's. and now a guy that's been in the business a long time told me to use klotz benol @ 32:1. what do you think. I really love the klotz smell lol.

[PaRedneckRiders]

dont have a trx250r but some of my friends do and i have had cr250/500 and some others

I have always ran castor 927 at a 40:1 ratio (pint to five gal.)

[methyman]

I run Klotz benoil 32:1 in all my bikes!

[86 Quad R]

i use the klotz kl100 at 32:1 and have been since i first purchased my R allmost 15 years ago. great wear protection.:cool:

[Ruf Racing]

Klotz Super Techniplate 32:1 The good stuff! :macho

[1promodfan]

Amsoil all the way @ 40:1

[rablack21]

Second that, Amsoil Interceptor @50:1. Amazing protection, clean as a whistle.

[gandgracing]

Amsoil 40:1 I can run it all season and still read the numbers on top of the piston very easily.

[wilkin250r]

While on the subject of oil, I've seen a lot of people running really lean mixtures, in the belief that more gas and less oil equals more power.

In reality, I've seen multiple tests (with dyno runs to prove) that show MORE oil actually equals more power, all the way up to about 12:1 until you start fouling plugs.

It's more expensive, but 32:1 will make just a little more power than 40:1.

Food for thought.

[Ruf Racing]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
While on the subject of oil, I've seen a lot of people running really lean mixtures, in the belief that more gas and less oil equals more power.

In reality, I've seen multiple tests (with dyno runs to prove) that show MORE oil actually equals more power, all the way up to about 12:1 until you start fouling plugs.

It's more expensive, but 32:1 will make just a little more power than 40:1.

Food for thought.

^^Agreed ^^
And why, wouldn't you want as much lubrication as possible?

[1promodfan]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
While on the subject of oil, I've seen a lot of people running really lean mixtures, in the belief that more gas and less oil equals more power.

In reality, I've seen multiple tests (with dyno runs to prove) that show MORE oil actually equals more power, all the way up to about 12:1 until you start fouling plugs.

It's more expensive, but 32:1 will make just a little more power than 40:1.

Food for thought.

I agree that you might be able to make more power but if the manufacturer recommends a certain ratio why change? .........just asking. Also I noticed mine smokes more than I like @ 32:1. To me I think its more rider preferance

I might try 32:1 again just for kicks

[troybilt]

What's wrong with Castor 927? Stuff smells awesome with VP110 @ 32:1...

[PaRedneckRiders]

Originally posted by troybilt
What's wrong with Castor 927? Stuff smells awesome with VP110 @ 32:1...
x2 on that haha i was the only one that listed it and felt left out

[brokenmike]

I use Blendzall @ 32:1. Stuff smells great too. The only problem is you can't tell it's mixed or not

[fearlessfred]

Originally posted by Ruf Racing
^^Agreed ^^
And why, wouldn't you want as much lubrication as possible? x3

[wilkin250r]

I run Castor 927, but I do it for silly reasons.

Most any top-brand oil is going to be good. I doubt you'll see significantly longer life running Klotz over Maxima.

But since my quad is significantly faster than my wife's, she's always behind me. She likes the way Castor927 smells, so that's what I run.

[troybilt]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
I run Castor 927, but I do it for silly reasons.

Most any top-brand oil is going to be good. I doubt you'll see significantly longer life running Klotz over Maxima.

But since my quad is significantly faster than my wife's, she's always behind me. She likes the way Castor927 smells, so that's what I run.

You mention your wife but in your sig you talk about your girlfriend... wilkin you ol'dog you! LOL!!! just kidding! :D

[bloodswet&gears]

Originally posted by hartwill
what kind of oil and ratio do you guys use? I was using golden spectre @ 50:1 then I switched to klotz tecniplate @ 40:1 because that's what my friends use and its just easier than remembering who's is who's. and now a guy that's been in the business a long time told me to use klotz benol @ 32:1. what do you think. I really love the klotz smell lol. klotz R-50..
you can go to klotzlube and they give you the info for all their products. lots of good info.

[atv fan 28]

I use Castor 927 32:1. Its some good smelling stuff.

[red88r]

Klotz R50 32:1. Have taking apart many different motors and the protection is awesome. Run everything from their oil to their air filter cleaners to their gas....great stuff. I recommend it everybody.

[criminalpoet]

Amsoil @ 42:1... Manufacturer recommends 50:1 and says that any richer ends up masking the spark and hurting performance.. However I will sacrifice just a little performance at 42:1 to have a little more protection... Ive tried Amsoil at many different mixing ratios and 42:1 is my favorite with 40:1 being my second favorite.

[spintly]

I run Klotz R50 32:1. What I was told by previous owner and my buddies enjoy the smell (only two stroke among many 450s). My racing friend uses Klotz Super Techniplate and swears by it. Matter of choice. I used to run Castor 927 in my Banshee.

[hondamancbr03]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
While on the subject of oil, I've seen a lot of people running really lean mixtures, in the belief that more gas and less oil equals more power.

In reality, I've seen multiple tests (with dyno runs to prove) that show MORE oil actually equals more power, all the way up to about 12:1 until you start fouling plugs.

It's more expensive, but 32:1 will make just a little more power than 40:1.

Food for thought.

Different ratio mixtures can make more HP depending on the riding....For the 300ft light to light mixing as lean as 100:1 is not uncommon, our local shop that has taken 1st place at Dunefest runs 100:1 and has the trophy to show how well the mixture runs. For my open dune riding I believe more oil is best for a cooler engine and longer lasting parts.

Dyno's are great but I prefer listening to the people with the trophies.

[rablack21]

I'm not sure why you wouldn't just mix the oil according to the recommedations of the oil manufacturer. If they recommend a certain ratio, that is because they have designed the oil to perform at it's best at that ratio. They have reached the best equilibrium of all around benefits and performance for that product. When they set the ratio, they are fully confident that their product will protect the engine thoroughly with that particular amount of oil mixed in the gas. If they are not, then they shouldn't be recommending ratios. However, I do also understand the need to deviate if you are using the oil for a very unique or specialized purpose.

[hondamancbr03]

Most if not all companies that sell product will add in a safety factor for protection for you if not more for themselves....Honda calls out for 32:1 as we all know, I believe everyone on here will testify that 32:1 puts smoke out the pipe and everywhere else in between, Honda called out 32:1 for the safety and longer life of the machine not for performance.

The oil I use I mix close to what they recommend, my banshee motor went 5yrs on 45:1 without a problem and was only rebuilt for larger displacement.

Do you mix your Honda at 32:1 because the gas tank says so or do you match what the oil bottle calls for? I'm a 40:1 to 45:1 person depending on what bike I’m putting it in and who's riding the bike.
If you mix according to the oil manufacturer is that disregarding Honda's requirements stated on the bike?

[rablack21]

I agree with hondamancbr03. Oil manufacturers do add in a safety factor to protect them and your bike. Honda recommended a 32:1 ratio because that is what Honda's oil was setup for to protect the engine. Today's synthetics,like Amsoil, usually recommend a higher ratio, like 50:1 because that is what they have engineered it to be mixed at. I mix mine 50:1 because I am comfortable with their recommendation and it has ran fantastic for me.


This is directly off their website talking about the Amsoil Interceptor mixed at 50:1

"400,000 Miles of Severe Snowmobile Field testing With No Deposit Buildup, Power Valve Sticking, Ring Sticking or Engine Failures.

Subjected to adverse field testing conditions in the Rocky Mountains, including long trail rides, high RPM powder riding and steep hill climbs, AMSOIL INTERCEPTOR demonstrated superior wear protection and outstanding deposit control."

That's pretty impressive.