How long will the well leak oil in the gulf?

[slightlybent47]

How long will the well leak oil in the gulf?

I say it will continue for at least 6 months or longer.

[destey]

from what I understand they've been drilling two relief wells since may 2nd. The relief well (whichever gets there first) is supposed to intersect the well down at the 7 or 9 inch casing near the bottom. The plan is to breach the casing, then pump mud through the relief well up into the leaking well. The mud is heavier than everything else, so when the column of mud gets tall enough it'll overcome the pressure of the formation below it and stop the flow. Then they'll cement up the wellhead and signal victory.

Supposedly this fix works 95%+ of the time. The troubles will be in intersecting the well. They have to hit a small target at a very deep depth, drilling down then down/horizontally

how long will the cleanup take? I say 50 years :( thats a seriously answer too.

[OutlawBill]

Big ? is How much of the USA will be contaminated once a hurricane hits the oil :grr:

[ridered11]

http://www.break.com/index/gulf-of-mexico-oil-spill.html

Pretty interesting.

[ben300]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
how long will the cleanup take? I say 50 years :( thats a seriously answer too.

if you wanna live by and enjoy the beach you'll have to move to cali now man...or jersey....or alaska....****

[Scro]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
how long will the cleanup take? I say 50 years :( thats a seriously answer too.

I don't think it will take anywhere near that long to clean up. As long as the leak is stopped, I'd say less than 5 years to clean up the physical oil. But longer for the economic mess to be cleaned up. Just my opinion.

[Sjorge450R]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
how long will the cleanup take? I say 50 years :( thats a seriously answer too.


No where near that. The oil will become diluted into the the rest of the water. The shore clean up will take a little more time due to the fact that it will not be able to be diluted. I agree with SCRO, 5 years and it will be good.

[backwoodsracer]

UNTILL THEY GET RID OF THAT JACKASS NAMED OBAMA

[406Z26]

This is all an orchestrated scam by the government to raise oil prices. We all know the government and big oil will in the end profit off of this at our expense!

Originally posted by ben300
if you wanna live by and enjoy the beach you'll have to move to cali now man...or jersey....or alaska....****

nope Alaska still has oil on the beaches from the spill back in 1989, 21 years later. That spill is pea sized compared to the one in the Gulf. If its 21 years and Alaska still has oil on their beaches I say my prediction of atleast 50 years is correct.

[slightlybent47]

Originally posted by 406Z26
This is all an orchestrated scam by the government to raise oil prices. We all know the government and big oil will in the end profit off of this at our expense!


OPEC decides on what the oil prices are set to, the federal government has nothing to do with oil prices. Where our problem lies is with big oil donating to democratic or republican campaign contributions and kick backs so that when they get elected that will vote for things that save the oil company’s money, like reducing regulations on drilling.

[slightlybent47]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
nope Alaska still has oil on the beaches from the spill back in 1989, 21 years later. That spill is pea sized compared to the one in the Gulf. If its 21 years and Alaska still has oil on their beaches I say my prediction of atleast 50 years is correct.


There is a fundamental deference between Alaska and the gulf, that is water temp. with the water temp in the rang from 70/80 degrees, with that most of the oil will simply evaporate.

Originally posted by slightlybent47
There is a fundamental deference between Alaska and the gulf, that is water temp. with the water temp in the rang from 70/80 degrees, with that most of the oil will simply evaporate.

Oil evaporates? In what 1000 years? Ive seen open quarts of oil for years never lose a drop lol

[406Z26]

Originally posted by slightlybent47
OPEC decides on what the oil prices are set to, the federal government has nothing to do with oil prices. Where our problem lies is with big oil donating to democratic or republican campaign contributions and kick backs so that when they get elected that will vote for things that save the oil company’s money, like reducing regulations on drilling.

Are you effn nuts! Our country was founded on oil and that will never change. OPEC is just a big cover up for the real agenda. Do a research on the Bush family and you will see how gov'nt is tied to oil, better yet lookup a movie called Zeitgeist and watch it, it will change your mind real quick.

[Scro]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
nope Alaska still has oil on the beaches from the spill back in 1989, 21 years later. That spill is pea sized compared to the one in the Gulf. If its 21 years and Alaska still has oil on their beaches I say my prediction of atleast 50 years is correct.

The size doesn't really matter that much. The resources are out there to get it cleaned up quicker. How much tourism is there on the Alaskan beaches? It's nothing compared to what the Gulf beaches see every year. Tourism will clean this spill up relatively quick.

[MOFO]

Originally posted by OutlawBill
Big ? is How much of the USA will be contaminated once a hurricane hits the oil :grr:


:(

Yep...

[Tommy Warren]

Kevin Costner will save us all:huh

[destey]

Originally posted by 406Z26
Are you effn nuts! Our country was founded on oil and that will never change. OPEC is just a big cover up for the real agenda. Do a research on the Bush family and you will see how gov'nt is tied to oil, better yet lookup a movie called Zeitgeist and watch it, it will change your mind real quick.

Oil is a commodity and is set in auctions in various places like Chicaco Mercantile Exchange or NY Mercantile exachange (NYMEX). Suppliers, like say dairy farmers, wish to sell their products to companies that turn that raw product into finished product. Instead of dealing directly with each other, the contracts are traded on exchanges, many intermediaries will end up owning the contract for periods in which they think they will buy low then sell higher.

Oil is traded this way. Oil is delivered in various ports and their products are sold to buyers through contracts bought and sold on the exchange. There's no opec conspiracy to raise prices, no govt intervention other than SEC trading rules. OPEC can only alter the price of oil by telling its countries to simply ship more or less total amounts of oil, thus tweaking supply up or down. Then its economics. You have a certain supply coming into the exchange, and a certain demand by the wholesalers dictated by actual demand across the country. So OPEC can affect price. If demand is up and they cut supply, people won't say 'nah i won't drive' they'll just pay more to drive the same amount. Then as price goes up people start cutting back and at a really steep price people would only drive as little as possible. This would reduce demand on gas. Its a calculus problem to see how high you can raise prices before drop in people's driving starts to negatively affect revenue.

Katrina is a perfect real world example. You had supply near 100% capacity before the storm hit. Storm hits, takes out 23 percent of the US gas production. A lot less gas gets put into the exchange auctions and people will pay more to get those contracts they need. They may even buy less gas at the auctions and in turn sell less to the stations at a higher price. It all settles on an equalibrium between supply/demand/price. There's no conspiracty between the evil oil companies, or Bush pushing the price up to help his buddies.

Sorry for rambling about economics but it seems like there's some odd theories going around that have no basis in the way this world is really operating.

[ben300]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
nope Alaska still has oil on the beaches from the spill back in 1989, 21 years later. That spill is pea sized compared to the one in the Gulf. If its 21 years and Alaska still has oil on their beaches I say my prediction of atleast 50 years is correct.


id say its not. we actually have the available technology to clean up this spill, currently as we sit here and speak. our gov't just refuses to use it.

if our gov't actually put as much time adn effort into cleaning up this spill and preventing the oil from getting to the coast line as they did in passing a healthcare bill no one wanted, then this really wouldnt be as big of a problem as its becoming.

do some ****ing research on the subject instead of looking at honda forums all day. you can sit here and ***** about it, and act all huffy puffy, but research it and find out whats going on wtih it. read the news, watch the news, not just cnn (communist news network) and get informed

[ben300]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
Oil evaporates? In what 1000 years? Ive seen open quarts of oil for years never lose a drop lol

large quatiities of oil have actually already evarporated and will continue. jsut becuase you cant see oil evaporate out of a jug, doesnt mean it wont. all the oil has to do is be at a drastic enough temperature difference than the air outside the container, adn a negative pressure drop will occur, causing the oil to evaporate out and then condense as soon as its out. something like this happend at the power plant i work at and caused an environmental recordible inccident with the epa...


i bet you also probably didnt know that you can have water, still in a liquid form, at over 1000 degrees f...

[ben300]

Originally posted by slightlybent47
OPEC decides on what the oil prices are set to, the federal government has nothing to do with oil prices. Where our problem lies is with big oil donating to democratic or republican campaign contributions and kick backs so that when they get elected that will vote for things that save the oil company’s money, like reducing regulations on drilling.


which never happend. thats why these off shore drilling rigs are regulated to drill in such deep depths. this is also why we cant drill in alaska or colorado or hte such. big oil pays one of the highest ammounts of federal tax dollars to our gov't each year out of jsut about every industry, yet the federal gov't, primarily the democrats, liberals, and socialits, have been trying to **** on them for many many years.....

i think what you should really look to is how bp gave millions in campaign contributions to obama, and is also one of hte largest investors in the cap and trade bill/technology.....

if you wanna talk about a big scam, start with that...

also, oil speculators are the reason why we have such high gas prices.

[slightlybent47]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
Oil evaporates? In what 1000 years? Ive seen open quarts of oil for years never lose a drop lol

Yes oil will evaporate.

[XCRacer236]

Exxonn had a big oil spill in Alaska back in the 80's i think and that climate still isnt the same. it will NEVER be the same now.

[Scro]

Originally posted by XCRacer236
Exxonn had a big oil spill in Alaska back in the 80's i think and that climate still isnt the same. it will NEVER be the same now.

Climate? An oil spill isn't going to effect climate that drastically. It may have had some effect on the albedo of the water, but not enough to change weather patterns. Any differences in climate would be due to the natural swing of the environment.

Businesses are going to suffer because of this, and some won't be able to survive. But the thing is, there will always be someone there with a bigger check book to take advantage of those loses when the mess is cleaned up. In 10 years, you won't even know the oil spill happened.

[quadbod]

Oh well, on a lighter note...USA won there game in the football today. Not sure how cos they are **** but they won nonetheless. :eek2: :eek2:

[ben300]

Originally posted by quadbod
Oh well, on a lighter note...USA won there game in the football today. Not sure how cos they are **** but they won nonetheless. :eek2: :eek2:

soccer chief.........

[reptikes]

Originally posted by 406Z26
Are you effn nuts! Our country was founded on oil and that will never change. OPEC is just a big cover up for the real agenda. Do a research on the Bush family and you will see how gov'nt is tied to oil, better yet lookup a movie called Zeitgeist and watch it, it will change your mind real quick.


The Bush Family is not our govornment. :huh Bush family and oil go together... everybody already knows that.

Go some where with you conspiricy BS.

[ben300]

Originally posted by reptikes
The Bush Family is not our govornment. :huh Bush family and oil go together... everybody already knows that.

Go some where with you conspiricy BS.

thankyou reptikes...at least some ppl here have common sense...

bush has been gone for almost two years now! this is now barack obamas nation and is barack obamas problems....people need to wake up and realize that bush and chaney are no more and have no control of what happens in our country. ****, bush has basically been gone for almost four years now. for his last two years in office, he wasnt anything but a talking head. the libs, socialists, and RINO's controlled congress....bush couldnt do anythign....

wake up people...

[quadbod]

Originally posted by ben300
soccer chief.........

Football to the rest of the word, Americans just have to be different. :macho

I'm pretty sure its futbol but ok lol. And back on topic anyone hear about some methane gas pocket that if it pops it will cause a tsunami or tidal wave? lol

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by ben300
large quatiities of oil have actually already evarporated and will continue. jsut becuase you cant see oil evaporate out of a jug, doesnt mean it wont. all the oil has to do is be at a drastic enough temperature difference than the air outside the container, adn a negative pressure drop will occur, causing the oil to evaporate out and then condense as soon as its out. something like this happend at the power plant i work at and caused an environmental recordible inccident with the epa...


i bet you also probably didnt know that you can have water, still in a liquid form, at over 1000 degrees f...
ben what type of power plant do you work at and what do you do? i m an I+C tech at a trash burner plant

[ben300]

Originally posted by DnB_racing
ben what type of power plant do you work at and what do you do? i m an I+C tech at a trash burner plant

im an assistant engineer at a power plant in the greater(west) pittsburgh area....its a coal fired plant, the bruce mansfield power station....

i work with pumps, valves, compressors, heat exchangers and i do vibration trends and stuff. i also do a lot of work with preventive maintenance

its not what i want to do or where i want to be forever, but its a good job and its ok for now

[ben300]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
I'm pretty sure its futbol but ok lol. And back on topic anyone hear about some methane gas pocket that if it pops it will cause a tsunami or tidal wave? lol

its all speculation. its there, they just don't know exactly how big it is. they have an idea. i think the tsunami thing would be caused if it blew up. thats one of the reasons why they haven't blown the well shut with a bomb or a nuclear bomb yet

[DnB_racing]

Originally posted by ben300
im an assistant engineer at a power plant in the greater(west) pittsburgh area....its a coal fired plant, the bruce mansfield power station....

i work with pumps, valves, compressors, heat exchangers and i do vibration trends and stuff. i also do a lot of work with preventive maintenance

its not what i want to do or where i want to be forever, but its a good job and its ok for now
Im an Instrument and controls tech I do alot of emissions controls and process engineering. and its like you said its not were I really want to be either, but trash plants pay well! we are a small generation plant only about 10 megs

[slamdak8782]

find it pretty hard to believe that oil will evaporate. I dont believe it to be true

[DnB_racing]

it will degrade and disperse into microscopic particles and render itself harmless in time

[quadbod]

Just educate yourselfs.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem03/chem03025.htm

And it's football, not soccer or futbol.

[ben300]

Originally posted by DnB_racing
Im an Instrument and controls tech I do alot of emissions controls and process engineering. and its like you said its not were I really want to be either, but trash plants pay well! we are a small generation plant only about 10 megs

wow that is small, we are 2700 gross megawatts over three generation units.


they're actually building a tire burning power station a county north of my home town.

[ben300]

Originally posted by slamdak8782
find it pretty hard to believe that oil will evaporate. I dont believe it to be true

look it up, it will happen...a good percentage of the oil that was spilt into the persian gulf evaporated