Now... which a-arms ...

[reptikes]

What do you guys think about Fullflight a-arms ?

And does plus 2" mean 1" on each side or 2" bigger on each side?

And plus 3" ?
3" total or 3" on each side?

[250r rider 88]

never used fullflight but +2 means 2 inches on each side, same with +1 or +3 if it says +2 +1 the +1 is forward position

[reptikes]

Or maybe American Star a-arms?

and thanks 250r rider 88.

[250r rider 88]

i personally have SMC and they are well made a arms, you get what you pay for, houser, LSR, Burgard all make some great a arms as well, Laeger if you can afford them

[tayyo789]

The first number is per side, the second number is how far forward.
Fullflights are cheap. They work, but I'm not sure how long. They are not up to par as far as quality goes when comparing them with such brands as Houser. However, they are a good option for someone on a budget. I have been using them since August and they are still fine, but I only use them at the dunes, and don't jump much, so they don't really get abused.
They use Hiem joints at the frame, and the ball joints are questionable. They are exposed to the elements, and mine tend to squeak A LOT if I don't keep them well lubed before every ride.

If you're truly on a budget, they are worth their money, but if you can get a set of something better, pass on the fullflights

[reptikes]

I do trails and natural jumps here and there when i see something (no tracks).


Id like to get something i can use with my stock shocks. I ride an 08' TRX450R

[250r rider 88]

i would go with these over full flight any day

http://www.burgardcycle.com/xcart/product.php?productid=56&cat=0&page=1

[tayyo789]

Ive heard good things about the Burgards. Plus you could probably find a set on here for cheap

[250r rider 88]

ebay it up man, you can usually find used a arms for a couple hundred bucks and but new bearings/seals in for a little more and be good to go, and with having a 450r they are crazy common

[reptikes]

Originally posted by 250r rider 88
i would go with these over full flight any day

http://www.burgardcycle.com/xcart/product.php?productid=56&cat=0&page=1


Thanks

[Honda4life05]

I bought the std burgard a-arms when they were on sale. i was told that they wouldn't hold up but last weekend i cased a jump and bottomed out the shocks really hard. i was suprised but they are perfectly fine.

[450r07]

I have ran burgard stems on two bikes now. both stems have definately had their fair share of abuse. I say this because some poeple will trash talk burgard equip because they are not as well known as houser and leager but it is a quality product. I thought about going with the +1 burgards but found a deal on houser and fox evols on ebay. If you are on a budget i would defininatly go with the burgards they have a warrenty so unless u bend them in a U shape you are in good shape.

[Ruf Racing]

JD Performance! Dave is about the best dude you could deal with.
His product is A #1

http://www.jdperformance.net/

[RosquistRacer39]

I can say that I had american star longtravel on my yfz and I thought that they held up great. I race mx and rode my bike hard. Never had a problem with the arms. Like all other arms with the heim style balljoints they have to be lubed before every ride or else they squeak like crazy but you can replace them with sealed balljoints. Only other thing is they come in only one color. You have to send them off to be coated the color of your choice because they don't do it in house.
I had hermann before the asr's and ended up bending one side of the arms when I overjumped a single and landed turning in a berm. The guys at hermann said they would replace them for 150 per arm per side but I just ended up not using them. Good thing about asr's is the warranty for life. Just send them the arm and they send you a new one.

[quad2xtreme]

Originally posted by Ruf Racing
JD Performance! Dave is about the best dude you could deal with.
His product is A #1

http://www.jdperformance.net/
X2 and Houser too.

[HoleshotR15]

IMO find a set of used +2's for about 200 bux save your money and buy long travel its worth it.

[atv fan 28]

My Burgards have held up great! I ride mostly sand with a few trails thrown in.

[reptikes]

Originally posted by HoleshotR15
IMO find a set of used +2's for about 200 bux save your money and buy long travel its worth it.


Whats the difference between say Extended a-arms and Long Travel a-arms, and max ground clearence a-arms?

[ikas]

Originally posted by reptikes
Whats the difference between say Extended a-arms and Long Travel a-arms, and max ground clearence a-arms?
Extended=wider, Longtravel=longer shocks and more suspension travel, and max ground clearence means more ground clearence. :)

[Pacheco_450r]

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/attachment.php?s=&postid=3919723

Are those stock length or extended arms?

[tayyo789]

Just putting this out there, long travel doesnt increase wheel travel, just shock travel. So basically, you can fine tune them a little more

[300ex_#387]

Originally posted by 450r07
I have ran burgard stems on two bikes now. both stems have definately had their fair share of abuse. I say this because some poeple will trash talk burgard equip because they are not as well known as houser and leager but it is a quality product. I thought about going with the +1 burgards but found a deal on houser and fox evols on ebay. If you are on a budget i would defininatly go with the burgards they have a warrenty so unless u bend them in a U shape you are in good shape.

It's not that burgards product is bad, it's the customer service. It could be different now but I quit getting stuff from them a couple years ago because it was such a hassle to get in touch with anyone. Shipping also took way too long.

[450r07]

i called burgard the other day and their sales rep was great. I dunno about the shipping time but i have never had a problem with thirs customer service.

[quad2xtreme]

I purchased Burgard products via reseller until the last several years upon hearing they stepped up service and support. No issues on my part in contacting them directly over the past 2 years.

[300ex_#387]

Thats good to hear. Like I said I haven't delt with them in a few years so it seems like they have improved a lot.

[flyjum]

Full flights work fine for normal riding also you can set them up for the caster and camber that you want to run. The heims work well they last as long as regular bushings from what I have seen. People just love to bash on cheap stuff does not really mean the product is bad.

Any aftermarket arm will be better then stock. SMC are good burgard are good full flight are good. You can get any of these for less then 500$ new. You should get +2 as I dont think you need longer lines with just +2's but with +3 you will.