'86 Mustang 5.0 [Archive] - ATV Riders Forum

bkelley

05-06-2010, 09:06 AM

107k total original for the body. I think the engine was rebuilt not too long ago. If I had the extra cash it would be in my driveway right now. The thing is I would have to take out a loan for it then possibly sell my Blazer. Which I wouldn't have a problem with, I just need to make sure this 5.0 will be a reliable daily driver. I love my '85 Blazer and all, but it just doesn't handle the freeway well and my commute to school consists of 20 miles of freeway. Plus I've never been able to get the a/c running good which is a big deal here in Vegas.

99400esex

05-06-2010, 09:13 AM

Body looks like its in good shape still. Engine and engine bay look clean and its a 5 speed(always the best choice). If it was rebuilt recently I would say to definitely go for it. A few of my friends have them and they are extremely reliable for them, I was even looking into getting one but im not really a ford type of guy, so good luck with your decision. Very nice 5.0

D Bergstrom

05-06-2010, 09:54 AM

Car looks good. Just noticed you are in Vegas, so I assume the car is here also. You should buy it, because if you don't, I just might!:D

Doug

Jigsaw

05-06-2010, 10:01 AM

Go for it. That's extremely clean. Plus the 5.0 has a lot of potential. Just to bad it has the porno red interior

mineralgrey01gt

05-06-2010, 10:41 AM

id buy that now, just swap the porno red interior with a black interior and your set

hondariderdylan

05-06-2010, 10:50 AM

i would.

the flat black looks pretty mean:cool:

bkelley

05-06-2010, 12:20 PM

Man, I wish I had the money in hand. I just called the dude and talked to him about it. Said he originally was going to turn it into a project car but didn't have the time or money anymore and now he's just trying to get rid of it. By the time I get a loan and everything it'll probably be gone.

Hondamaster5505

05-06-2010, 01:20 PM

I'd rather get a clean F-body LT1 to be honest.

That's definitely a nice 5.0 and well worth the price. But if any of you remember, I actually looked at a few fox body's when I was searching for a car. They're rattle box pieces of junk, imho. I mean, they're fun as hell, but the body/chassis isn't designed well for the power of the V8, and you hear every single rock and bump in the road.

That's why as soon as I drove the firebird, I had made up my mind. It's a much tighter, better built car.

As far as mustang's go that's a sick one, and I still wouldn't mind owning one. I just think the f-bodies are better built cars all around.

hondapower8

05-06-2010, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Hondamaster5505
I'd rather get a clean F-body LT1 to be honest.

That's definitely a nice 5.0 and well worth the price. But if any of you remember, I actually looked at a few fox body's when I was searching for a car. They're rattle box pieces of junk, imho. I mean, they're fun as hell, but the body/chassis isn't designed well for the power of the V8, and you hear every single rock and bump in the road.

That's why as soon as I drove the firebird, I had made up my mind. It's a much tighter, better built car.

As far as mustang's go that's a sick one, and I still wouldn't mind owning one. I just think the f-bodies are better built cars all around.

personally i find that any 5.0 is way nicer than any f-body lt1 i find that there just plain ugly but thats just my opinion... i always liked the looks of a clean 5.0

05-06-2010, 02:08 PM

I don't think it's worth $3500..... But I'm a Chevy guy.

bkelley

05-06-2010, 02:13 PM

Aww, don't be a hater. You know it's worth $3500 haha.

I don't discriminate. I like GMs, Fords, Mopars, whatever. I even like some imports. A clean car is a clean car. I'm just looking for a fun daily driver. I've checked out a bunch of Camaros and Tran Ams but people are either way too proud of them ($10k for a '00 Trans Am) or have trashed them. My dream car has always been the WS6. I just think they sound and look amazing. Then again, 5.0s sound pretty beast, too. Especially with no cats and a full exhaust.

05-06-2010, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by bkelley
Aww, don't be a hater. You know it's worth $3500 haha.

I don't discriminate. I like GMs, Fords, Mopars, whatever. I even like some imports. A clean car is a clean car. I'm just looking for a fun daily driver. I've checked out a bunch of Camaros and Tran Ams but people are either way too proud of them ($10k for a '00 Trans Am) or have trashed them. My dream car has always been the WS6. I just think they sound and look amazing. Then again, 5.0s sound pretty beast, too. Especially with no cats and a full exhaust.

I'm with you on that but I personally don't think that's worth $3500. I might pay $2500 for it but that's me. For some reason I've been falling in love with '97-'98 GSX Eclipse's. I drove one before I bought my bike and almost bought it instead....

Pipeless416

05-06-2010, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by bkelley
Aww, don't be a hater. You know it's worth $3500 haha.

I don't discriminate. I like GMs, Fords, Mopars, whatever. I even like some imports. A clean car is a clean car. I'm just looking for a fun daily driver. I've checked out a bunch of Camaros and Tran Ams but people are either way too proud of them ($10k for a '00 Trans Am) or have trashed them. My dream car has always been the WS6. I just think they sound and look amazing. Then again, 5.0s sound pretty beast, too. Especially with no cats and a full exhaust.

keep your eyes peeled.. i know it doesn't make any difference for you, but i got my T/A in january when everybody was trying to get rid of them because of snow.. i watched the prices skyrocket since then. but watch out, i enjoy driving it TOO MUCH. i find the dumbest reasons to go for a drive.. ex) after that air freshener thread, i drove to walmart just to pick up the black ice things everybody was talking about :p all in all, rear wheel drive, and v8 is a win win. i have always liked 5.0s.

bkelley

05-06-2010, 02:37 PM

Yeah, I've been looking steadily for about 6 months now. I was ready to buy a '94 Camaro SS for $4900, but I couldn't work out the financing. The car was too old for an auto loan and I didn't have enough established credit for a personal loan. Other than that, noting has really caught my eye. The main problem is that the car has to be fairly old so the insurance won't kill me.

Jake250ex

05-06-2010, 02:38 PM

I had a 94 Z28, was a fun car but I wanted and still want a 5.0 5 speed. their not quite as fast or powerful but i like the look of them and they sound like race cars stock. Also, i thought they 5.0's were carbed up to 89?

bkelley

05-06-2010, 02:39 PM

'86 was the first year they went to EFI. I think the 5.0 is a great daily driver engine. Plenty of power to have fun yet still gets decent gas mileage.

mineralgrey01gt

05-06-2010, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by YFZ-DunerUtah
I'm with you on that but I personally don't think that's worth $3500. I might pay $2500 for it but that's me. For some reason I've been falling in love with '97-'98 GSX Eclipse's. I drove one before I bought my bike and almost bought it instead....

have you priced fox bodies lately? That price is great for that car. Ive seen some with original motor, trannys, stock with 150,000+ miles go for $4000.

Also if fox's arent good cars, then why are they so great for drag racing and such? There is so much you can do to fox its unreal. Same with the f bodies but i dont want to drive something that looks like a beached whale

Hondamaster5505

05-06-2010, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by hondapower8
personally i find that any 5.0 is way nicer than any f-body lt1 i find that there just plain ugly but thats just my opinion... i always liked the looks of a clean 5.0

Looks aren't everything. That's like saying I want to by a 250ex because of looks over a 450r.. although the 450r is a better bike all around. Makes no sense. lol.

And to the OP, keep your eyes peeled. Sure, the LS1's are sick, but LT1's aren't that far behind and are a sweet ride. You can score a nice 6-speed LT1 93-95 for around 3500. Hell, I got my 93 for 2500.

Mustangs are still fun, but I just don't care for the way they're set up. Not to mention those 5-speeds are ticking time bombs even on a stock motor. (T5's are VERY weak)

bkelley

05-06-2010, 02:45 PM

Like I said, I've had my eyes peeled. I need to get something here soon, especially with the summer coming. My '85 Blazer doesn't like the 20 miles of freeway I have to drive to school haha.

mineralgrey01gt

05-06-2010, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Hondamaster5505
Looks aren't everything. That's like saying I want to by a 250ex because of looks over a 450r.. although the 450r is a better bike all around. Makes no sense. lol.

And to the OP, keep your eyes peeled. Sure, the LS1's are sick, but LT1's aren't that far behind and are a sweet ride. You can score a nice 6-speed LT1 93-95 for around 3500. Hell, I got my 93 for 2500.

Mustangs are still fun, but I just don't care for the way they're set up. Not to mention those 5-speeds are ticking time bombs even on a stock motor. (T5's are VERY weak)

i know quite a few people with stock T5's, T45's, and 3650's pushing over 500rwhp and not having one problem. A mustang is a perfect platform for racing, the rear end is bullet proof after putting $250 into it for axles. The only thing its lacking is a little power but that can change easily as they are so cheap to mod.

IMO LT1's are junk. That optispark crap is rediculous. A couple of my friends owned LT1 f bodies and was replacing that junk quite often and 1/2 the time they were broke (stock motors and such in them). They ride horrible IMO and my stock 4.6 in my 01 GT beat my buddies LT1 already.

Pipeless416

05-06-2010, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by mineralgrey01gt
Same with the f bodies but i dont want to drive something that looks like a beached whale

:( :( :(

mineralgrey01gt

05-06-2010, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Pipeless416
:( :( :(

lol no offense but some of them do, now dont get me wrong a sunburnt orange ws6 is killer looking with a nice set of wheels on it and lowered some.

Hondamaster5505

05-06-2010, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by mineralgrey01gt
i know quite a few people with stock T5's, T45's, and 3650's pushing over 500rwhp and not having one problem. A mustang is a perfect platform for racing, the rear end is bullet proof after putting $250 into it for axles. The only thing its lacking is a little power but that can change easily as they are so cheap to mod.

IMO LT1's are junk. That optispark crap is rediculous. A couple of my friends owned LT1 f bodies and was replacing that junk quite often and 1/2 the time they were broke (stock motors and such in them). They ride horrible IMO and my stock 4.6 in my 01 GT beat my buddies LT1 already.

I never said anything about T45's, or 3650's. T5's are the weak one. Why do you think they put them on the 305 firebirds, but not the 350's? Because during testing it just couldn't hold up to the abuse. Also, a lot of mustang owners will tell you they've been through multiple T5's if you drive it like a sports car.

It may be a perfect platform for racing, but this guy isn't racing, he's driving back and fourth to school. lmao. Those fox body's are known to twist up under hard launches over the years. (My buddies is like that, too. The hatch won't even line up right because it's so twisted. Never in an accident) and he even has all the stiffeners and such on it.

LT1's aren't junk. The optispark is the one main thing that is crap on them. Besides that, they're actually a pretty good motor. And if you replaced it the first time with an MSD opti, you would have never had another problem with it.

I'm not here to argue. You may be in a different situation, but I test drove a LOT of 5.0's... EVERY SINGLE ONE, even the low mileage taken care of ones, felt like they would rattle apart, had loose door hinges (because they're also crap on them) and just had a horrible ride in general. The f-body doesn't ride perfect, but it's still a sportscar. And it rides much better then the 5.0.

A nice LT1, with a decent mild cam, (since they're WAY undercammed from the factory) would be a really nice daily driver, and still get 25 on the highway.

Don't even talk about your 4.6. This is between the 5.0 and LT1. And by the way, the LT1 is faster then the 5.0 by far stock for stock.

It's up to him. The mustangs are a fun ride for sure. But there's no doubt that they were built horribly. The motor and rear are the only good things about them. LOL.

Jake250ex

05-06-2010, 03:30 PM

im gonna have to agree a stock 2v 4.6 wont keep a lt1 in sight. mine had 2.73 gears, was BONE stock and I whooped a 04' (i think) GTO pretty good.

find an auto lt1, put gears a stall and tune it and you have a everyday 12 second street car for $1000 worth of mods

bkelley

05-06-2010, 03:32 PM

This is the kind of crap I find when I search CL for F Bodies.

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/1680048118.html

Trust me, if I could find a nice Trans Am in my price range, I'd go for it. But an '86 5.0 with 107k miles on the body and a recently rebuilt engine for $3500 is too much to pass up.

Hondamaster5505

05-06-2010, 03:37 PM

I'm sure you can talk this guy down.
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/1727610433.html

This looks pretty clean, and is cammed.
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/1722720227.html

bkelley

05-06-2010, 03:38 PM

Seen them. The Trans Am is nice, but I would never buy a convertible.

Hondamaster5505

05-06-2010, 03:40 PM

awh man... too bad you don't have the time/money to fix it up..

A mystic cobra.. these things are sweet rides.
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/1725823798.html

bkelley

05-06-2010, 03:46 PM

Yeah, if I had the time or money I'd help my dad start restoring the '73 Mach 1 we have in the backyard.

05-06-2010, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Jake250ex
im gonna have to agree a stock 2v 4.6 wont keep a lt1 in sight. mine had 2.73 gears, was BONE stock and I whooped a 04' (i think) GTO pretty good.

find an auto lt1, put gears a stall and tune it and you have a everyday 12 second street car for $1000 worth of mods

GTO's are LS1 and LS2..... That GTO would walk a 4.6 with gears. Either it needed a serious driver mod or the GTO wasn't racing when you thought he was... :rolleyes:

bkelley

05-06-2010, 04:36 PM

I though he was saying he beat a GTO with his LT1. Kinda worded it weird.

Hondamaster5505

05-06-2010, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by YFZ-DunerUtah
GTO's are LS1 and LS2..... That GTO would walk a 4.6 with gears. Either it needed a serious driver mod or the GTO wasn't racing when you thought he was... :rolleyes:

Ehh, they aren't quite what you think.

They have similar 1/4 mile times (right at about 14 flat) and the GTO has a hair faster 0-60. Even though it has more power, the goats are pretty heavy and designed to kind of be a quiet, smooth muscle car.

So I can see it being very possible.

Now remove some weight and put some gears on the gto, and it's a different story.

Tommy Warren

05-06-2010, 05:09 PM

get the stang and forget about those ugly firechickens....the last nice trans am was made in 79

Pipeless416

05-06-2010, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
get the stang and forget about those ugly firechickens....the last nice trans am was made in 79

i agree with the first part of your statement (get the stang,) but respectfully disagree with the last part.

bkelley

05-06-2010, 05:34 PM

Now the hard part is getting mom on board.

"What if it breaks down?"

"What if it turns into a money pit?"

"How do you know he took such good care of it?"

"It has no catalytic converters?!?!"

k4f5x0r

05-06-2010, 05:52 PM

bkelley

05-06-2010, 06:16 PM

Yes and she is worried that taking it to a "specialist" is going to get me into trouble.

Pipeless416

05-06-2010, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by bkelley
Now the hard part is getting mom on board.

"What if it breaks down?"

"What if it turns into a money pit?"

"How do you know he took such good care of it?"

"It has no catalytic converters?!?!"

"5.0's are actually really reliable and if anything goes wrong, parts are cheap and plentiful, and they're easy to work on."

"What guy toy doesn't?"

"this was somebody's baby, just as it will be mine."

"i'll put magnaflow hi flows on it"

CJM

05-06-2010, 07:12 PM

I personally prefer a 2nd gen TA/FB/Camaro, drop a worked 350 in there and forget about anyone keeping up.

But if I was to build a muscle car/fast car either a 67 chevelle, 69 charger or a 69 camaro or nova :)

Rip the HO 5.0 they got in there out and put a 383 stroker in there-AINT NO ONE keeping up with you unless they got one hell of a car. Course then you need a built trans to handle it tho.

b.lee

05-06-2010, 07:18 PM

5.slow

no go on the 5.slow

get ls1 and call it a day

jrspawn

05-06-2010, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Hondamaster5505
awh man... too bad you don't have the time/money to fix it up..

A mystic cobra.. these things are sweet rides.
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/1725823798.html

I just shed a tear looking at that add... Dont know if i will ever let my mystic go in fear of someone turning it into that!

Justin

Jake250ex

05-06-2010, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by YFZ-DunerUtah
GTO's are LS1 and LS2..... That GTO would walk a 4.6 with gears. Either it needed a serious driver mod or the GTO wasn't racing when you thought he was... :rolleyes:

it was a stock ls1 auto. we went 3 honks from a 30 roll and i shifted my auto and left his ***. if i got stomped, like i did by every srt4 that came my way, id be the first to say it.

bkelley

05-06-2010, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by Pipeless416
"5.0's are actually really reliable and if anything goes wrong, parts are cheap and plentiful, and they're easy to work on."

"What guy toy doesn't?"

"this was somebody's baby, just as it will be mine."

"i'll put magnaflow hi flows on it" That's pretty much exactly how the conversation went. Minus the part about the magnaflows. I'd probably leave it with no cats.

Pipeless416

05-06-2010, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by bkelley
That's pretty much exactly how the conversation went. Minus the part about the magnaflows. I'd probably leave it with no cats.

haha i'd still say it anyway

bkelley

05-06-2010, 09:39 PM

Well, it's pretty much at the "you and your dad do whatever you want" stage so I think I'm clear. That is, if I can get the money in time. I'm gonna try and see the dude tomorrow and offer him a couple hundred down on it.

Edit: She's still yelling at me for it not having cats haha. She thinks I'm gonna get put in jail when I go to try and smog it illegally even though hundreds of people do it every year and the owner has been doing it for years and knows a guy. How much do you think it would cost to get some magnaflow cats put on?

mineralgrey01gt

05-07-2010, 12:42 AM

fearlessfred

05-07-2010, 03:03 AM

get the mustang and we could head out to speed way, on friday nite practice and see which is faster, a 98 firechicken or the stang ,both are fun cars .i had a 87 5.0 that was a blast and my best friend is still running the stock motor in his offroad truck .the nice thing about my t/a is how good the fuel milage can be on the ls1 (20+ on the freeway) and still run a mid 13 down the quarter just as u drive it everday

good luck with what ever u get

bkelley

05-07-2010, 09:22 AM

Are you running cats on your t/a?

Pipeless416

05-07-2010, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by bkelley
Are you running cats on your t/a?

yep, the exhaust is stock... for now :devil: . i eventually want long tubes and a magnaflow system, but i'll keep the cats or go to high flows because we have emissions testing and LS1's can get really raspy without them. if you could install them yourself, i think they run about $120-130 each.

fearlessfred

05-07-2010, 09:51 AM

yea im running the cats also and and aftermarket from there back

hey,on the mustang your looking at ,do a inspection of the undercarrige back by the rear diff. to see if any mounts are torn up . i cant remember what gets torn up when there abused , i will ask my friend today. he will remember, one other thing is i see it has 4 lug rims . i thought that the cars that came with the 5.0 had 5 lug . if the motor has been tranplanted dont buy. i could be wrong about the 4 lug. maybe some one else knows

TheIceMan

05-07-2010, 10:00 AM

The "torque boxes" are what gets torn up on a fox chassis from abuse.
It's where the rear lower control arm mounts to the chassis.
5.0's came stock with 4 lug wheels.

bkelley

05-07-2010, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by fearlessfred
i thought that the cars that came with the 5.0 had 5 lug . if the motor has been tranplanted dont buy. i could be wrong about the 4 lug. maybe some one else knows Hmm... that is interesting. Pretty sure the 5.0s did have 5 lugs.

fearlessfred

05-07-2010, 10:31 AM

yea my 87 had 5 lug, maybe the changed them in 87, thanks ice man,

bkelley

05-07-2010, 10:54 AM

Okay cool. Thanks, IceMan.

TheIceMan

05-07-2010, 11:48 AM

Someone (if not you) must have done a 5 lug conversion on the '87.
My 85gt and 89lx were both 4 lug.
The '86 looks pretty solid,is it primered ?

As far as comparing a 5.0 mustang to a LT1 or LS1 F-body...blah blah...blah.
been there owned both stock and modded ....the mustang is just an all around better built car IMO,even though the F bodies were faster :devil:

If my memory isn't totally gone,I think Pappy had owned a real nice '92?? stang .

Tommy Warren

05-07-2010, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by TheIceMan
Someone (if not you) must have done a 5 lug conversion on the '87.
My 85gt and 89lx were both 4 lug.
The '86 looks pretty solid,is it primered ?

As far as comparing a 5.0 mustang to a LT1 or LS1 F-body...blah blah...blah.
been there owned both stock and modded ....the mustang is just an all around better built car IMO,even though the F bodies were faster :devil:

If my memory isn't totally gone,I think Pappy had owned a real nice '92?? stang .

I like this guy:D

bkelley

05-07-2010, 12:44 PM

Not sure if it's primered or if it's an actual flat black paint job. I'm gonna go drive it today and see if we can work out a deal.

Hondamaster5505

05-07-2010, 01:18 PM

ALL 5.0 mustang's came with 4-lug. (Except for 94-95, that was the newer bodystyle.)

But every foxbody came with 4-lugs, unfortunately. The reason some of you had 5-lugs, and thought they had that, that's because people do the 5-lug conversion because the stock pattern has limited rim selection.

ZBlaster

05-07-2010, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Hondamaster5505
ALL 5.0 mustang's came with 4-lug. (Except for 94-95, that was the newer bodystyle.)

But every foxbody came with 4-lugs, unfortunately. The reason some of you had 5-lugs, and thought they had that, that's because people do the 5-lug conversion because the stock pattern has limited rim selection.

Wrong. 93 Cobra R was 5 lug as well.

fearlessfred

05-07-2010, 02:06 PM

fastredrider44

05-07-2010, 02:23 PM

This thread went WAY off track at times. lol. I laughed, and blah blah blah is right. Just remember that someone out there is always gonna be better and faster than you. Just gotta deal with it.:blah:

bkelley

05-07-2010, 02:40 PM

I just called the guy about setting up a time to check it out and he was in the process of letting someone test drive it... Let's just hope that doesn't go through.

fastredrider44

05-07-2010, 03:21 PM

Look on the bright side. If it does go through, then it just wasn't meant to be, and you'll find something you like even better.

Hondamaster5505

05-07-2010, 04:02 PM

I can't see it selling that easy.. Las Vegas must be much different then. Up here in PA/NJ/NY, fox body's are a dime a dozen and hard to sell. You can score a decent one for 3k or less.

bkelley

05-07-2010, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by Hondamaster5505
I can't see it selling that easy.. Las Vegas must be much different then. Up here in PA/NJ/NY, fox body's are a dime a dozen and hard to sell. You can score a decent one for 3k or less. That's the only decent 5.0 I have seen around here. There was another one at a dealership but it was no where near as nice.

bkelley

05-08-2010, 04:00 PM

Went and drove it today, the thing is sick. Gave him $100 down and he's holding it for me. Gotta finish everything up at the bank on Monday then should have it Tuesday or Wednesday.

fearlessfred

05-08-2010, 04:02 PM

congrads

buck440

05-09-2010, 06:22 PM

i can already hear it rumbling with that huge cam and open headers mmmmmmmmm

Tommy Warren

05-09-2010, 09:45 PM

I want a burnout video ASAP!

congrats dude

bkelley

05-12-2010, 01:27 AM

So, I got screwed. The owner contacted me earlier today telling me that someone was offering him $3800 for the car and if I didn't come up with $3800 right then he was selling it to the other guy. After we had already made the deal, after I gave the dude $100 down, I was finishing up the loan with the bank and I had even already got the car insured. He told me people were still calling about the car but he was telling them it was sold. Guess that was a complete lie. I'm getting my $100 back but I am extremely disappointed to say the least. The dude completely f-ed me over.