long block ford

[1999x400ex]

has anyone ever built a long block ford motor. i was intrested in building one for my truck. i was just curious about how much money and time is invested in a project like this. i kno the long block alone is gonna be anywhere between 3 and 5 thousand dollars but im not sure about all the dress up parts. any help or advise is appreciated. thanks :D

[CJM]

Really depends on what you want to do, I never built a Ford up-too many more options for a 350 Chevy.

Its kinda funny when you go to the local drag races and they got Fords with Chevy engines in them.

If I was to build one I would start with the old 351w if possible. Its a stout block and responds well to boring out to say a 383 stroker.

302 is ok, but will never be a powerplant imho.

[1999x400ex]

yea i dont wanna put a chevy motor in a ford but i was looking at the 351. i would proably go with something along the lines of that. i was looking at this website http://www.coasthigh.com/Ford-427-Windsor-long-blocks-s/1133.htm
i would have one hell of a truck if i were to drop that under the hood :devil:

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by CJM
302 is ok, but will never be a powerplant imho.

Your humble opinion is noted and taken into consideration, and judged wrong..

Start with a Dart or FRPP 4-bolt main 302 block, tall deck.. and you can build a SICK engine.

Ive seen a 302 punched out to a 454 small block. The most common stroker for a 4-bolt 302 is a 347, or 363 in my experience at the drag strip.

A stock block 347 can still make and hold upwards of 700hp as long as its girdled and the RPM's are kept at 6k or below.. I know this for a fact because my dad kept a 347 in his mustang for 2 years spraying a 250 shot of nitrous to it. It never blew or smoked, he just got rid of the car and built a faster one.

Any engine can be made powerful. It just depends on the amount of money you have to put into it as to whether or not it will live and be reliable. Obviously a 454 small block is nothing but a race engine..

I do agree with what you said about finding a 351w bottom end.

AIt really depends on what this engine is going in and what its going to be used for.. I havent read the whole thread yet so I could have missed something..

[1999x400ex]

its gonna go in a 95 ford f150. i wanna build a truck that i can take to the local drag strip and whoop some *** with then drive to school. im not worried about gas milage or how loud its gonna be at all. the louder the better, imo.

[eastside 400]

it all depends on your power wishes and what kind of quality you want in the parts, im building a 408 right now and have 5g just into the heads, cam, lifters, and rotating assembly

[Kickstarts-suck]

Depends on your complete budget.

Cant just drop a badass motor into that truck and go fast. Your going to need alot more.

Join some websites and get ideas of what you want and can afford.

Have you ever built an engine before?

[1999x400ex]

i kno theres alot more involved then just dropping a motor in a truck. theres trans issuses and suspension and i would deffinatly want to put a posi rear in it. and as far as motor building goes, i have alot of experience for a 16 year old. i rebuilt an engine in an 89 fire bird. i also rebuilt a chevy lumina z34 motor the other day. ive done a few hondas....mostly my friends crx along with countless dirtbikes and quads. i go to a vocational school and ive been doing this stuff forever. and yes i do have a job to finance this project......for those of you wondering :D

[jrspawn]

Originally posted by CJM

302 is ok, but will never be a powerplant imho.

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[jrspawn]

... and the little ol 302 style engine is on little drag radials also....

[Ruby Soho]

id put something alittle stronger in the back than a stock 8.8 rear

[CJM]

Sterling rear outta an F350 should do it.

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by Ruby Soho
id put something alittle stronger in the back than a stock 8.8 rear

Why is that? Plenty of 600hp lightnings running 8.8s.

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by CJM
Sterling rear outta an F350 should do it.

Wouldnt do that..

Sterling rear ends are junk in all of my experience with them. My old man went through 4 in 2 years under his F350..

I run an 8.8 in my '79, with a pretty well built 302 and it holds up fine.. The only thing I worry about is the 1350 series u-joint.

Like Kickstarts-suck said, you cant just drop a nasty engine in the truck and go fast, you have to have the right combonation of parts.

The stock E4OD isnt gonna like having alot of power put to it. Try to find a decently built up AOD, or if you just have a crazy budget, a built C4 and a gearvendors OD unit.

I do exactly what you want to do with your F150, with my F100, and its been a bit of a PITA to get it where it is..

I suggest before you worry about having a 400+ horse small block, worry about the suspension, because as with quads.. without the right suspension, the chassis cant handle the power or plant it.

If you have plenty of time, notch the frame and 4 link it with coil springs. No wheel hop.. no axle wrap, and a very easily adjustable setup. The newer F150's are coilspring front, so either drop spindles or lowering springs in the front would take care of the stance.

Just to give you an idea of what can be done (and I know this isn't a world record pass or a firebreater, but its a strong run..)..

My truck ran the following numbers at a curb weight of 3840lbs, 4.10 gears, an AOD with a shift kit of 2800 stall convertor, footbraking and 325/50 drag radials (to much tire..)

Reaction: 0.205
60ft: 2.02
660: 8.82 @ 82mph

I was only running through 1st and 2nd gear, crossing the stripe at about 6400rpm. I didnt wanna shift to 3rd because the convertor locks up in 3rd and it would have slowed me down. Since that day, Ive put 4.56 gears in it and a 1pc input shaft, so im excited to go back and see what happens. :devil:

BTW: sorry for the long post...:chinese:

[CJM]

Never had an issue with the sterling rear in the powerstroke I owned.

9inch is pretty good tho.