mad at favre for not running for the first here is the reason why, he couldn't run

[tim colston]

My dad is a friend of Favre's agent, believe me or not it doesn't matter. He was grilled in the media for not running for the first and making the cross body cross field pass. I am attempting to attach some pics to show you why he chose to pass the ball. These are real pics and have not been altered in any way. I will pass along his agents website if anybody wishes. I think they may be posted there.

[hondariderdylan]

i understand that. he is still wahsed up in my opinion and needs to accept that he isnt in his prime anymore, until then he is going to continue to catch hell from everyone.

[Fred55]

He's still a POS! If you think that bruise is the reason he didn't run and threw that pick, explain to me what happened in the NFC Championship game against the Giants?

[tim colston]

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i can't remeber how to transfer it from a word file to a jpg. anyone help me or i can email it to ya and you can post it . thanks and sorry it is a pic of his ankle or thigh can't remember which one i posted first.

Also I am not a fan of Brett I think that he does need to retire but he will go down as one of the best. I don't care about all the bashing of him I wasn't making excuses, but it seems like there are a bunch of arm chair quarterbacks out there. AGAIN i am not a fan of him. Just posting some interesting pics. you can leave the hating to yourself.

[tim colston]

Originally posted by Fred55
He's still a POS! If you think that bruise is the reason he didn't run and threw that pick, explain to me what happened in the NFC Championship game against the Giants?

how is he a POS?

[Fred55]

Also, I do believe there is an hidden motive to releasing these pictures.... You could go to ANY nfl team after ANY game and find pictures way worse.

[tim colston]

Originally posted by Fred55
Also, I do believe there is an hidden motive to releasing these pictures.... You could go to ANY nfl team after ANY game and find pictures way worse.

whatever bro he has accomplished records that will stand for a long time and 1 that will never be broken. this post was just some pics that's it, he has accomplished much more than you. keep the bashing and hating to yourself, I thought that they where interesting pics if you don't, then don't comment like i said keep the negative comments to yourself. Please.

[Fred55]

Im just saying, injuries like these are nothing new for an NFL player, and it seems Cook released these pictures to try to give Favre an excuse for choking, but unfortunately he's been doing it for a few years now in the big games in the playoffs. Theres a reason he's the leader in INTs as well.......

[tim colston]

Originally posted by Fred55
Im just saying, injuries like these are nothing new for an NFL player, and it seems Cook released these pictures to try to give Favre an excuse for choking, but unfortunately he's been doing it for a few years now in the big games in the playoffs. Theres a reason he's the leader in INTs as well.......

I agree with a lot of what you are saying can I email you this pic of his ankle i can't convert it from a word file to a jpeg so the site can post it. Believe me I am not a fan of him but I think that is or was a great qb. This year was his best stat wise so if i were him I would retire and live on the millions he has.

[tim colston]

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[jesseweaver]

Originally posted by tim colston
whatever bro he has accomplished records that will stand for a long time and 1 that will never be broken.

yea most picks!

i really dont think farve was that great of a quarterback. ill say he was good but def. not great. one of the most overrated quarterbacks ever.

4th and 26 :devil: haha i love it

[300racer]

those look nasty and are kinda cool to see what an nfl player put up with for 16 regular season games. but i don't think that is the reason why he didn't run. but i can't bash him because i wouldn't have done anybetter in his situation. it's easy to watch it and say why didn't he do that. but when your out there i'm sure it is way different. cool pics

[jesseweaver]

ill throw up some numbers for you guys :devil:

Touchdown-Interception Ratio:

1.Steve Young: 232 Td's 107 Int's- 2.17%
2.Donovan McNabb: 194 Td's 90 Int's- 2.16%
3.Joe Montana: 273 Td's 139 Int's- 1.96%
4.Dan Marino: 420 Td's 252 Int's- 1.67%
5.Roger Staubach: 153 Td's 109 Int's- 1.40%
6.Jim Kelly: 237 Td's 175 Int's- 1.35%
7.Sonny Jurgensen: 255 Td's 189 Int's- 1.35%
8.John Elway: 300 Td's 226 Int's- 1.33%
9.Len Dawson: 239 Td's 183 Int's-1.31%
10.Otto Graham: 174 Td's 135 Int's- 1.29%
11.Fran Tarkenton: 342 Td's 266 Int's 1.29%
12.Warren Moon: 291 Td's 233 Int's 1.25%
13.Troy Aikman: 165 Td's 141 Int's- 1.17%
14.Johnny Unitas: 290 Td's 253 Int's- 1.15%
15.Bob Griese: 192 Td's 172 Int's- 1.12%
16.Bart Starr: 152 Td's 138 Int's- 1.10%
17.Dan Fouts: 254 Td's 242 Int's- 1.05%
18.Terry Bradshaw: 212 Td's 210 Int's- 1.0%
19.Y.A. Tittle: 242 Td's 248 Int's- 0.98%
20.Norm Van Brocklin: 173 Td's 178 Int's- 0.97%
21.George Blanda: 236 Td's 277 Int's- 0.85%
22.Bobby Layne: 196 Td's 243 Int's- 0.81%
23.Joe Namath: 173 Td's 220 Int's- 0.79%
24.Bob Waterfield: 97 Td's 128 Int's- 0.76%

Regular Season Win-Loss Record:

1.Otto Graham: 57-13-1
2.Roger Staubach: 85-29
3.Joe Montana: 117-47
4.Terry Bradshaw: 107-51
5.Steve Young: 94-49
6.Johnny Unitas: 118-64-4
7.Donovan McNabb: 82-45-1
8.John Elway: 148-82-1
9.Bob Waterfield: 14-8 (only recorded games according to pro-football-reference.com)
10.Jim Kelly: 101-59
11.Norm Van Brocklin: 61-36-4
12.Bart Starr: 94-57-6
13.Len Dawson: 94-57-8
14.Bob Griese: 92-56-3
15.Dan Marino: 147-93
16.Bobby Layne: 80-51-4
17.Y.A. Tittle: 78-52-5
18.Troy Aikman: 94-71
19.Fran Tarkenton: 124-109-6
20.George Blanda: 53-50-1
21.Dan Fouts: 86-84-1
22.Warren Moon: 102-101
23.Joe Namath: 62-63-4
24.Sonny Jurgensen: 69-73-7

Completion Percentage:

1.Steve Young: 63.3%
2.Joe Montana: 63.2%
3.Troy Aikman: 61.5%
4.Jim Kelly: 60.1%
5.Dan Marino: 59.4%
6.Donovan McNabb: 58.9%
7.Dan Fouts: 58.8%
8.Warren Moon: 58.4%
9.Bart Starr: 57.4%
10.Sonny Jurgensen: 57.1%
11.Len Dawson: 57.1%
12.Roger Staubach: 57.0%
13.Fran Tarkenton: 57.0%
14.John Elway: 56.9%
15.Bob Griese: 56.2%
16.Otto Graham: 55.8%
17.Y.A. Tittle: 55.2%
18.Johnny Unitas: 54.6%
19.Norm Van Brocklin: 53.6%
20.Terry Bradshaw: 51.9%
21.Bob Waterfield: 50.3%
22.Joe Namath: 50.1%
23.Bobby Layne: 49.0%
24.George Blanda: 47.7%

Passer Rating:

1.Steve Young: 96.8
2.Joe Montana: 92.3
3.Otto Graham: 86.6
4.Dan Marino: 86.4
5.Donovan McNabb: 85.9
6.Jim Kelly: 84.4
7.Roger Staubach: 83.4
8.Len Dawson: 82.6
9.Sonny Jurgensen: 82.6
10.Troy Aikman: 81.6
11.Warren Moon: 80.9
12.Bart Starr: 80.5
13.Fran Tarkenton: 80.4
14.Dan Fouts: 80.2
15.John Elway: 79.9
16.Johnny Unitas: 78.2
17.Bob Griese: 77.1
18.Norm Van Brocklin: 75.1
19.Y.A. Tittle: 74.3
20.Terry Bradshaw: 70.9
21.Joe Namath: 65.5
22.Bobby Layne: 63.4
23.Bob Waterfield: 61.8
24.George Blanda: 60.6


who seems to be a reoccuring name in the top 5 in almost all of these stats? yup, #5 in the green jersey

[300racer]

Originally posted by jesseweaver
ill throw up some numbers for you guys :devil:

Touchdown-Interception Ratio:

1.Steve Young: 232 Td's 107 Int's- 2.17%
2.Donovan McNabb: 194 Td's 90 Int's- 2.16%
3.Joe Montana: 273 Td's 139 Int's- 1.96%
4.Dan Marino: 420 Td's 252 Int's- 1.67%
5.Roger Staubach: 153 Td's 109 Int's- 1.40%
6.Jim Kelly: 237 Td's 175 Int's- 1.35%
7.Sonny Jurgensen: 255 Td's 189 Int's- 1.35%
8.John Elway: 300 Td's 226 Int's- 1.33%
9.Len Dawson: 239 Td's 183 Int's-1.31%
10.Otto Graham: 174 Td's 135 Int's- 1.29%
11.Fran Tarkenton: 342 Td's 266 Int's 1.29%
12.Warren Moon: 291 Td's 233 Int's 1.25%
13.Troy Aikman: 165 Td's 141 Int's- 1.17%
14.Johnny Unitas: 290 Td's 253 Int's- 1.15%
15.Bob Griese: 192 Td's 172 Int's- 1.12%
16.Bart Starr: 152 Td's 138 Int's- 1.10%
17.Dan Fouts: 254 Td's 242 Int's- 1.05%
18.Terry Bradshaw: 212 Td's 210 Int's- 1.0%
19.Y.A. Tittle: 242 Td's 248 Int's- 0.98%
20.Norm Van Brocklin: 173 Td's 178 Int's- 0.97%
21.George Blanda: 236 Td's 277 Int's- 0.85%
22.Bobby Layne: 196 Td's 243 Int's- 0.81%
23.Joe Namath: 173 Td's 220 Int's- 0.79%
24.Bob Waterfield: 97 Td's 128 Int's- 0.76%

Regular Season Win-Loss Record:

1.Otto Graham: 57-13-1
2.Roger Staubach: 85-29
3.Joe Montana: 117-47
4.Terry Bradshaw: 107-51
5.Steve Young: 94-49
6.Johnny Unitas: 118-64-4
7.Donovan McNabb: 82-45-1
8.John Elway: 148-82-1
9.Bob Waterfield: 14-8 (only recorded games according to pro-football-reference.com)
10.Jim Kelly: 101-59
11.Norm Van Brocklin: 61-36-4
12.Bart Starr: 94-57-6
13.Len Dawson: 94-57-8
14.Bob Griese: 92-56-3
15.Dan Marino: 147-93
16.Bobby Layne: 80-51-4
17.Y.A. Tittle: 78-52-5
18.Troy Aikman: 94-71
19.Fran Tarkenton: 124-109-6
20.George Blanda: 53-50-1
21.Dan Fouts: 86-84-1
22.Warren Moon: 102-101
23.Joe Namath: 62-63-4
24.Sonny Jurgensen: 69-73-7

Completion Percentage:

1.Steve Young: 63.3%
2.Joe Montana: 63.2%
3.Troy Aikman: 61.5%
4.Jim Kelly: 60.1%
5.Dan Marino: 59.4%
6.Donovan McNabb: 58.9%
7.Dan Fouts: 58.8%
8.Warren Moon: 58.4%
9.Bart Starr: 57.4%
10.Sonny Jurgensen: 57.1%
11.Len Dawson: 57.1%
12.Roger Staubach: 57.0%
13.Fran Tarkenton: 57.0%
14.John Elway: 56.9%
15.Bob Griese: 56.2%
16.Otto Graham: 55.8%
17.Y.A. Tittle: 55.2%
18.Johnny Unitas: 54.6%
19.Norm Van Brocklin: 53.6%
20.Terry Bradshaw: 51.9%
21.Bob Waterfield: 50.3%
22.Joe Namath: 50.1%
23.Bobby Layne: 49.0%
24.George Blanda: 47.7%

Passer Rating:

1.Steve Young: 96.8
2.Joe Montana: 92.3
3.Otto Graham: 86.6
4.Dan Marino: 86.4
5.Donovan McNabb: 85.9
6.Jim Kelly: 84.4
7.Roger Staubach: 83.4
8.Len Dawson: 82.6
9.Sonny Jurgensen: 82.6
10.Troy Aikman: 81.6
11.Warren Moon: 80.9
12.Bart Starr: 80.5
13.Fran Tarkenton: 80.4
14.Dan Fouts: 80.2
15.John Elway: 79.9
16.Johnny Unitas: 78.2
17.Bob Griese: 77.1
18.Norm Van Brocklin: 75.1
19.Y.A. Tittle: 74.3
20.Terry Bradshaw: 70.9
21.Joe Namath: 65.5
22.Bobby Layne: 63.4
23.Bob Waterfield: 61.8
24.George Blanda: 60.6


who seems to be a reoccuring name in the top 5 in almost all of these stats? yup, #5 in the green jersey


thats some nice stats but i would take favres superbowl ring over those stats any day mcnabb has nothing to show for what he has done really. not because of him but the team he is on.

[tim colston]

Originally posted by jesseweaver
ill throw up some numbers for you guys :devil:

Touchdown-Interception Ratio:

1.Steve Young: 232 Td's 107 Int's- 2.17%
2.Donovan McNabb: 194 Td's 90 Int's- 2.16%
3.Joe Montana: 273 Td's 139 Int's- 1.96%
4.Dan Marino: 420 Td's 252 Int's- 1.67%
5.Roger Staubach: 153 Td's 109 Int's- 1.40%
6.Jim Kelly: 237 Td's 175 Int's- 1.35%
7.Sonny Jurgensen: 255 Td's 189 Int's- 1.35%
8.John Elway: 300 Td's 226 Int's- 1.33%
9.Len Dawson: 239 Td's 183 Int's-1.31%
10.Otto Graham: 174 Td's 135 Int's- 1.29%
11.Fran Tarkenton: 342 Td's 266 Int's 1.29%
12.Warren Moon: 291 Td's 233 Int's 1.25%
13.Troy Aikman: 165 Td's 141 Int's- 1.17%
14.Johnny Unitas: 290 Td's 253 Int's- 1.15%
15.Bob Griese: 192 Td's 172 Int's- 1.12%
16.Bart Starr: 152 Td's 138 Int's- 1.10%
17.Dan Fouts: 254 Td's 242 Int's- 1.05%
18.Terry Bradshaw: 212 Td's 210 Int's- 1.0%
19.Y.A. Tittle: 242 Td's 248 Int's- 0.98%
20.Norm Van Brocklin: 173 Td's 178 Int's- 0.97%
21.George Blanda: 236 Td's 277 Int's- 0.85%
22.Bobby Layne: 196 Td's 243 Int's- 0.81%
23.Joe Namath: 173 Td's 220 Int's- 0.79%
24.Bob Waterfield: 97 Td's 128 Int's- 0.76%

Regular Season Win-Loss Record:

1.Otto Graham: 57-13-1
2.Roger Staubach: 85-29
3.Joe Montana: 117-47
4.Terry Bradshaw: 107-51
5.Steve Young: 94-49
6.Johnny Unitas: 118-64-4
7.Donovan McNabb: 82-45-1
8.John Elway: 148-82-1
9.Bob Waterfield: 14-8 (only recorded games according to pro-football-reference.com)
10.Jim Kelly: 101-59
11.Norm Van Brocklin: 61-36-4
12.Bart Starr: 94-57-6
13.Len Dawson: 94-57-8
14.Bob Griese: 92-56-3
15.Dan Marino: 147-93
16.Bobby Layne: 80-51-4
17.Y.A. Tittle: 78-52-5
18.Troy Aikman: 94-71
19.Fran Tarkenton: 124-109-6
20.George Blanda: 53-50-1
21.Dan Fouts: 86-84-1
22.Warren Moon: 102-101
23.Joe Namath: 62-63-4
24.Sonny Jurgensen: 69-73-7

Completion Percentage:

1.Steve Young: 63.3%
2.Joe Montana: 63.2%
3.Troy Aikman: 61.5%
4.Jim Kelly: 60.1%
5.Dan Marino: 59.4%
6.Donovan McNabb: 58.9%
7.Dan Fouts: 58.8%
8.Warren Moon: 58.4%
9.Bart Starr: 57.4%
10.Sonny Jurgensen: 57.1%
11.Len Dawson: 57.1%
12.Roger Staubach: 57.0%
13.Fran Tarkenton: 57.0%
14.John Elway: 56.9%
15.Bob Griese: 56.2%
16.Otto Graham: 55.8%
17.Y.A. Tittle: 55.2%
18.Johnny Unitas: 54.6%
19.Norm Van Brocklin: 53.6%
20.Terry Bradshaw: 51.9%
21.Bob Waterfield: 50.3%
22.Joe Namath: 50.1%
23.Bobby Layne: 49.0%
24.George Blanda: 47.7%

Passer Rating:

1.Steve Young: 96.8
2.Joe Montana: 92.3
3.Otto Graham: 86.6
4.Dan Marino: 86.4
5.Donovan McNabb: 85.9
6.Jim Kelly: 84.4
7.Roger Staubach: 83.4
8.Len Dawson: 82.6
9.Sonny Jurgensen: 82.6
10.Troy Aikman: 81.6
11.Warren Moon: 80.9
12.Bart Starr: 80.5
13.Fran Tarkenton: 80.4
14.Dan Fouts: 80.2
15.John Elway: 79.9
16.Johnny Unitas: 78.2
17.Bob Griese: 77.1
18.Norm Van Brocklin: 75.1
19.Y.A. Tittle: 74.3
20.Terry Bradshaw: 70.9
21.Joe Namath: 65.5
22.Bobby Layne: 63.4
23.Bob Waterfield: 61.8
24.George Blanda: 60.6


who seems to be a reoccuring name in the top 5 in almost all of these stats? yup, #5 in the green jersey


you must have not read my previous posts from the begining, I am not a fan and if you are going to hate on the guy, do it somewhere else. ohh and by the way Favre's name isn't mentioned at all in your "stats" let alone in the top 5 get your facts straight and take the haterism somewhere else just posting what i thought where some interesting pics.

[ryan243]

Originally posted by tim colston
you must have not read my previous posts from the begining, I am not a fan and if you are going to hate on the guy, do it somewhere else. ohh and by the way Favre's name isn't mentioned at all in your "stats" let alone in the top 5 get your facts straight and take the haterism somewhere else just posting what i thought where some interesting pics.

i think thats his point, to say favre isnt as good as people say he is

[reconmaster]

heres a quote from micheal jordan:
“I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.”

i think the same goes for brett farve hes failed a few times but he sure as hell succeeded enough said.

[eastcoastpro20]

idc how banged up he was
1. it was a bad decision regardless, if your gna throw jus throw it out of bounds not across your body to the other side of the field
2. hes being payed millions, i think for that kind of money i cld muster up the strength to run 5 YARDS!

[extremeblastr]

Originally posted by eastcoastpro20
idc how banged up he was
1. it was a bad decision regardless, if your gna throw jus throw it out of bounds not across your body to the other side of the field
2. hes being payed millions, i think for that kind of money i cld muster up the strength to run 5 YARDS!

suit up, when you finish running 5 yards i'll hit you at 15mph with my quad and we'll see how your doing after that because thats a fair comparison to a full speed hit from an nfl lineback oh and before hand i'll make your leg and ankle look like his. yall talk way to much about things you have no concept of.

[eastcoastpro20]

Originally posted by extremeblastr
suit up, when you finish running 5 yards i'll hit you at 15mph with my quad and we'll see how your doing after that because thats a fair comparison to a full speed hit from an nfl lineback oh and before hand i'll make your leg and ankle look like his. yall talk way to much about things you have no concept of.

actually i have alot of concept, played football my whole life. Huge football fan. next time instead of bein a smartass use ur head and think a little. he is an NFL QUARTERBACK being payed millions his job is to take hits from linebackers thats why he gets payed what he does!!!! so u needa watch ur mouth and wat u say

[extremeblastr]

Originally posted by eastcoastpro20
actually i have alot of concept, played football my whole life. Huge football fan. next time instead of bein a smartass use ur head and think a little. he is an NFL QUARTERBACK being payed millions his job is to take hits from linebackers thats why he gets payed what he does!!!! so u needa watch ur mouth and wat u say

LMFAO i'm sorry but you should really sit back and take a look at the league before you go that. what other quarterback takes hits in the open field? EXACTLY, so when your all done crying and whining about him not doing something that not a single other quarterback willingly does then this will be a legitimate converation. oh and some peewee and highschool football does not a football player make my friend.

[Sjorge450R]

who ever posted those stats to help McNabb look good....HAHAHAHA.

McNabb will NEVER be the caliber of Favre. He is a solid player I will give him that, but Philly isnt going anywhere with him under center (Yeah they went to the Superbowl, but T.O was the reason, dont try to tell me the defense was the reason)

anyway, back to favre. That move was just a typical Favre move. I was watching the game, I am a life long Favre fan and when it got down to that situation, I looked to my roommate and I said, "Watch, here comes a signature Brett Favre end of the game interception". A few plays later, I was right.

[eastcoastpro20]

Originally posted by extremeblastr
LMFAO i'm sorry but you should really sit back and take a look at the league before you go that. what other quarterback takes hits in the open field? EXACTLY, so when your all done crying and whining about him not doing something that not a single other quarterback willingly does then this will be a legitimate converation. oh and some peewee and highschool football does not a football player make my friend.
doesnt count as football? what have you done that make you so great, you simply think your the **** and your not. all u are is a smartass. and ive seen pleanty of quarterbacks run. i didnt say take a hit in the openfiled dumbass you said i would get hit when i said i would run so i was simply followin that. he clda ran and slid. either way runnin was the best option obviously. and im not crying and whining, ur pissin me off because i stated my opinion and u make personal attacks sayin idk what im talkin about, all you do is try and start **** and act all big which is easy over the internet so jus stop.

[eastcoastpro20]

and last time you told me i didnt know about football was about the rose bowl, u said it wouldnt be close cause THE ohio state couldnt stop oregon..hmmmmmmmmmmmmm wat happend there again?

[ridered11]

In the wise words of the stupidest person on this site.... "U MADDD???"

[extremeblastr]

Originally posted by eastcoastpro20
and last time you told me i didnt know about football was about the rose bowl, u said it wouldnt be close cause THE ohio state couldnt stop oregon..hmmmmmmmmmmmmm wat happend there again?

if your gonna quote me at least have the brains to get it right, i said it wouldn't be close if ohio state couldn't stop oregons offense from getting rolling which they obviously did soooo i'm pretty sure i called that one just fine anddddd i also don't believe i said it didn't count as football but that it did not a football player make. you are *****ing and whining read your posts. oh and my opinion is that your all over opinionated and cry to much how is that a personal attack? go polish your rims or do something else productive

[Guy400]

Originally posted by eastcoastpro20
actually i have alot of concept, played football my whole life. Huge football fan. next time instead of bein a smartass use ur head and think a little. he is an NFL QUARTERBACK being payed millions his job is to take hits from linebackers thats why he gets payed what he does!!!! so u needa watch ur mouth and wat u say Actually you don't. I personally know a retired NFL linebacker who was an all star in high school, college and pro. He said in high school he never hit anybody or took a hit that really dazed him. He went onto a major Div I college as a starter and said during his college career he only had a handful of hits that rang his bell. Then he was drafted into the NFL as a starting LB and said the speed and the power at the pro level was more than he expected. He said nearly every hit was a bell ringer.

[jesseweaver]

Originally posted by Sjorge300EX
who ever posted those stats to help McNabb look good....HAHAHAHA.

McNabb will NEVER be the caliber of Favre. He is a solid player I will give him that, but Philly isnt going anywhere with him under center (Yeah they went to the Superbowl, but T.O was the reason, dont try to tell me the defense was the reason)

anyway, back to favre. That move was just a typical Favre move. I was watching the game, I am a life long Favre fan and when it got down to that situation, I looked to my roommate and I said, "Watch, here comes a signature Brett Favre end of the game interception". A few plays later, I was right.

Philly isn't going anywhere with him??? haha he MADE philly over the last decade. they weren't doing anything without him then in 2000 it all began, 7 playoff appearances, 4 straight NFC championship games and all their playoff loses they lost to a super bowl bound team or super bowl winner. and yea i know, 0 rings will probably hold him out of the HOF but you can't say he didn't do anything. and he did all this with 2 1,000 yard recievers over the last decade. NO quarterback has done that in their first 10 years playing ever.


btw elway didn't get his ring until his 15th year. him and mcnabb were very similar quarterbacks stat wise

[tim colston]

I still don't see Favre's name in any of those stats. Let alone in the top five. Look all I just posted the pics because i thought they were interesting, stop the pizzing contest and take it for what it is worth.

[jesseweaver]

Originally posted by jesseweaver
Philly isn't going anywhere with him??? haha he MADE philly over the last decade. they weren't doing anything without him then in 2000 it all began, 7 playoff appearances, 4 straight NFC championship games and almost all their playoff loses they lost to a super bowl bound team or super bowl winner. and yea i know, 0 rings will probably hold him out of the HOF but you can't say he didn't do anything. and he did all this with 2 1,000 yard recievers over the last decade. NO quarterback has done that in their first 10 years playing ever.


btw elway didn't get his ring until his 15th year. him and mcnabb were very similar quarterbacks stat wise

also only twice in McNabbs career when he played a full season did the Eagles not make the playoffs. one season was '99 in his rookie year and also in '07 when they went 8-8 but finished last. oh yea theres another thing, he's been playing in the hardest division over the last decade.

[tim colston]

Originally posted by ryan243
i think thats his point, to say favre isnt as good as people say he is


His last statement was as follows.


who seems to be a reoccuring name in the top 5 in almost all of these stats? yup, #5 in the green jersey


His name isn't mentioned in any of the catag. Also he is that good you may not be a fan nor am I but he is that good.

[ryan243]

Originally posted by tim colston
His last statement was as follows.


who seems to be a reoccuring name in the top 5 in almost all of these stats? yup, #5 in the green jersey


His name isn't mentioned in any of the catag. Also he is that good you may not be a fan nor am I but he is that good.


#5 in the green jersey would be referring to donovan mcnabb. favre has been number 4 throughout his pro career.

[tim colston]

Originally posted by ryan243
#5 in the green jersey would be referring to donovan mcnabb. favre has been number 4 throughout his pro career.

Sorry ryan243 you are 100% correct. my bad.

[ryan243]

haha its all good, mistakes happen

[eastcoastpro20]

Originally posted by Guy400
Actually you don't. I personally know a retired NFL linebacker who was an all star in high school, college and pro. He said in high school he never hit anybody or took a hit that really dazed him. He went onto a major Div I college as a starter and said during his college career he only had a handful of hits that rang his bell. Then he was drafted into the NFL as a starting LB and said the speed and the power at the pro level was more than he expected. He said nearly every hit was a bell ringer.

that doesnt mean i have no concept of football but nice try. Its common sence tha the nfl is faster and harder, i never said it wasnt. that is why many draft picks of great college players dont work out.

[braybray08]

Originally posted by jesseweaver
ill throw up some numbers for you guys :devil:

Touchdown-Interception Ratio:

1.Steve Young: 232 Td's 107 Int's- 2.17%
2.Donovan McNabb: 194 Td's 90 Int's- 2.16%
3.Joe Montana: 273 Td's 139 Int's- 1.96%
4.Dan Marino: 420 Td's 252 Int's- 1.67%
5.Roger Staubach: 153 Td's 109 Int's- 1.40%
6.Jim Kelly: 237 Td's 175 Int's- 1.35%
7.Sonny Jurgensen: 255 Td's 189 Int's- 1.35%
8.John Elway: 300 Td's 226 Int's- 1.33%
9.Len Dawson: 239 Td's 183 Int's-1.31%
10.Otto Graham: 174 Td's 135 Int's- 1.29%
11.Fran Tarkenton: 342 Td's 266 Int's 1.29%
12.Warren Moon: 291 Td's 233 Int's 1.25%
13.Troy Aikman: 165 Td's 141 Int's- 1.17%
14.Johnny Unitas: 290 Td's 253 Int's- 1.15%
15.Bob Griese: 192 Td's 172 Int's- 1.12%
16.Bart Starr: 152 Td's 138 Int's- 1.10%
17.Dan Fouts: 254 Td's 242 Int's- 1.05%
18.Terry Bradshaw: 212 Td's 210 Int's- 1.0%
19.Y.A. Tittle: 242 Td's 248 Int's- 0.98%
20.Norm Van Brocklin: 173 Td's 178 Int's- 0.97%
21.George Blanda: 236 Td's 277 Int's- 0.85%
22.Bobby Layne: 196 Td's 243 Int's- 0.81%
23.Joe Namath: 173 Td's 220 Int's- 0.79%
24.Bob Waterfield: 97 Td's 128 Int's- 0.76%

Regular Season Win-Loss Record:
Brett Favre 172-105 61%
1.Otto Graham: 57-13-1
2.Roger Staubach: 85-29
3.Joe Montana: 117-47
4.Terry Bradshaw: 107-51
5.Steve Young: 94-49
6.Johnny Unitas: 118-64-4
7.Donovan McNabb: 82-45-1
8.John Elway: 148-82-1
9.Bob Waterfield: 14-8 (only recorded games according to pro-football-reference.com)
10.Jim Kelly: 101-59
11.Norm Van Brocklin: 61-36-4
12.Bart Starr: 94-57-6
13.Len Dawson: 94-57-8
14.Bob Griese: 92-56-3
15.Dan Marino: 147-93
16.Bobby Layne: 80-51-4
17.Y.A. Tittle: 78-52-5
18.Troy Aikman: 94-71
19.Fran Tarkenton: 124-109-6
20.George Blanda: 53-50-1
21.Dan Fouts: 86-84-1
22.Warren Moon: 102-101
23.Joe Namath: 62-63-4
24.Sonny Jurgensen: 69-73-7

Completion Percentage:

1.Steve Young: 63.3%
2.Joe Montana: 63.2%
Brett Farve 62%
3.Troy Aikman: 61.5%
4.Jim Kelly: 60.1%
5.Dan Marino: 59.4%
6.Donovan McNabb: 58.9%
7.Dan Fouts: 58.8%
8.Warren Moon: 58.4%
9.Bart Starr: 57.4%
10.Sonny Jurgensen: 57.1%
11.Len Dawson: 57.1%
12.Roger Staubach: 57.0%
13.Fran Tarkenton: 57.0%
14.John Elway: 56.9%
15.Bob Griese: 56.2%
16.Otto Graham: 55.8%
17.Y.A. Tittle: 55.2%
18.Johnny Unitas: 54.6%
19.Norm Van Brocklin: 53.6%
20.Terry Bradshaw: 51.9%
21.Bob Waterfield: 50.3%
22.Joe Namath: 50.1%
23.Bobby Layne: 49.0%
24.George Blanda: 47.7%

Passer Rating:

1.Steve Young: 96.8
2.Joe Montana: 92.3
3.Otto Graham: 86.6
4.Dan Marino: 86.4
5.Donovan McNabb: 85.9
Brett Farve 84.71
6.Jim Kelly: 84.4
7.Roger Staubach: 83.4
8.Len Dawson: 82.6
9.Sonny Jurgensen: 82.6
10.Troy Aikman: 81.6
11.Warren Moon: 80.9
12.Bart Starr: 80.5
13.Fran Tarkenton: 80.4
14.Dan Fouts: 80.2
15.John Elway: 79.9
16.Johnny Unitas: 78.2
17.Bob Griese: 77.1
18.Norm Van Brocklin: 75.1
19.Y.A. Tittle: 74.3
20.Terry Bradshaw: 70.9
21.Joe Namath: 65.5
22.Bobby Layne: 63.4
23.Bob Waterfield: 61.8
24.George Blanda: 60.6


who seems to be a reoccuring name in the top 5 in almost all of these stats? yup, #5 in the green jersey

Helped your stats out

[Tommy Warren]

as long as madden has his nose up favres hind end people will always say he is great:D