Stator and Fly Wheel

[adamson350r]

Is there any spark improvements by the Ricky Stator's 200 watt stator over stock?

I would like to get a cr ignition, my only worry is not having lights.

[adamson350r]

When it comes to the electrical, I don't have a very in depth knowledge on improving performance with spark.

[deathman53]

there isn't any improvement for spark with a 200w stator, the lighting is the only thing that can be improved with it. Accessory power and coil power is completely separate.

[adamson350r]

What products improve spark from mild to wild? Couldn't a hotter spark plug do it?

[deathman53]

no, a hotter plug will just burn the oil/gas off the plug better and retain more heat in the motor, leading to detonation. The hottest plug that 250r(or almost any 2 stroke) should use is a 7, most use a 8 or 9. There really isn't anything to make a better spark on a stock system, some may say a janseen coil, what it does is questionable at best. For a better spark(and keep lights), you can call up service honda and get the ignition they use on their cr500f, it makes close to 100w lighting power. There is companies they sell stators that provide ac/dc power for cr250r stators also, most are 40-80w.

[LONG-ROD]

I just put a brand new oem stator and fly wheel on my R.. wow.. this thing ripps now. and my trail techs work like they should.. I just can believe I made to two Dune trips with out it. I know the stator is discontinued.. but I know there are a few around this forum..

[Motofool250r]

Originally posted by deathman53
no, a hotter plug will just burn the oil/gas off the plug better and retain more heat in the motor, leading to detonation. The hottest plug that 250r(or almost any 2 stroke) should use is a 7, most use a 8 or 9. There really isn't anything to make a better spark on a stock system, some may say a janseen coil, what it does is questionable at best. For a better spark(and keep lights), you can call up service honda and get the ignition they use on their cr500f, it makes close to 100w lighting power. There is companies they sell stators that provide ac/dc power for cr250r stators also, most are 40-80w.

i looked around and could not find anyone making cr250 stators care to share your sources?

ill look into the cr500f stator setup as the chineese stators out right now jsut fail like crazy.

[Motofool250r]

the only solution ive found is trail tech makes a battery powered head light setup that you could use with a cr250 ignition and get the best of both worlds

[LONG-ROD]

I pretty sure duncan raceing has them. its called a cr250 ignition.. try gooling that. i think they go for around $450.00 usd.

[LONG-ROD]

sorry . not duncan.. ESR sells them. complete kit $569.99..

[adamson350r]

How are cr ignitions supposed to help, is it the timing curve? Had conversation with someone who said it would feel like I had more bottom end and better acceleration.

[Motofool250r]

Originally posted by LONG-ROD
sorry . not duncan.. ESR sells them. complete kit $569.99..

that is a standard cr250 ignition has nothing to do with a lighting coil ona cr250 ignition,

i have a cr250 ignition on my puma but it doesn't have lighting ability

[Motofool250r]

Originally posted by adamson350r
How are cr ignitions supposed to help, is it the timing curve? Had conversation with someone who said it would feel like I had more bottom end and better acceleration.


better ignition curve, digital CDI box and lighter flywheel revs faster, and i think maybe hotter spark, and no kickback when starting a big bore

[LONG-ROD]

I didn't catch where he said he wanted lights.

[adamson350r]

The cr ignition helps that much cool. I found a company that makes like the ealier posting said lights possible on cr 250 ignitions. Lights don't have them right now. Would I like them, down the road.

[Motofool250r]

can you share the company ?

trail tech used to and ricky stator dont do it anymore.

[adamson350r]

I am at a church volleyball game. The info is on my desk at work. I will get it later today or Monday.

[deathman53]

I don't remember the company that sold cr250 w/ lights, I would want one for my 250r, it uses a cr250 system. For my hybrid, thankfully, trail tech sells a 90w dc system, that will be going on the atc450r that is being built.

[deathman53]

I emailed trail tech about a 01 cr250r lighted stator, lets call trail tech about this also, maybe in number they will respond and make such a product. As another posted, they did sell something like it awhile back.

[honda350r]

The company that builds a stator for the cr with lights is called electrex

here you go , I have ran them and they do work. The lights are a little dimmer but is is better than none !

http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/

[adamson350r]

Here is the site

http://www.electrosport.com/products/product-detail-2094.php

This is the one someone told me about. I will see if I can find some more.

Does having a lightened flywheel help? what are the pros and cons?

[adamson350r]

Here is the site

http://www.electrosport.com/products/product-detail-2094.php

I will see if I can find some more info.

What are the pros and cons to having a lightened flywheel?

[adamson350r]

Didn't think the first one posted.

[adamson350r]

Type in Honda cr 250 lighting stator or light stator and several sights will pop up that sell the units.


Now that everyone wants to keep them now, do you know where I could get a great deal on a cr 250 ignition system that would work on the my R?

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by adamson350r
Does having a lightened flywheel help? what are the pros and cons?

Oddly enough, it takes a huge amount of energy to get things spinning like that, and obviously the heavier they are, the more energy it takes.

A lightened flywheel will rev much quicker. It doesn't increase TOP speed, it just gets there faster.

This can be either good or bad. Faster revs mean quicker acceleration. But it also might mean more wheelspin and traction problems. Plus, it doesn't have quite as much rotational inertia, which makes it much easier to stall, so you'll have to feather the clutch quite a bit.

A lightened flywheel can add performance, but it will also demand more from the rider. With the tendency to stall, and controlling wheelspin, you'll have to get really good with your clutch.

[adamson350r]

I have a ct 350 pv. Ride in the sand mostly St. Anthony Dunes.

I only weight 190 at most 200 when my wife is pregnant.

Don't have a lengthened swing arm. Running stock 86 swing arm. Run a 20x10x10 paddle extreme 8 paddle.

What do you think about lightened flywheel? Would I be able to start out in second?

[86 Quad R]

i run the atc flywheel which is problably in between the heavier trx and the lightened one that ricky stator sells and i love it. best of both worlds so to speak....... i can launch 2nd gear all day long with 14/37 gearing w/20 8 paddle haulers.

[250ryanm]

Do I still need the mounting bracket from ESR to mount up the cr250 ignition from these sites?

[deathman53]

yeah, also still need the cdi and coil w/ billet mount

[dynofox]

Originally posted by adamson350r
The cr ignition helps that much cool. I found a company that makes like the ealier posting said lights possible on cr 250 ignitions. Lights don't have them right now. Would I like them, down the road.

Moose racing makes a stator for the 00-01 cr250 that produces 50w for lights. If you are using the stock headlight assembly you can get a 35w H4 bulb.

I've got a '00 cr 250r ignition in my 86 and it was a huge improvement, the motor revs much quicker than before.

[adamson350r]

They told me that running a cr ignition is a bad idea because the flywheels don't hold up as well as stock. Told me to run an 89 ignition box. Said stock flywheel is the best way to run, just get it lightened.

What do you guys think?