best budget woods riding atv?

[riggsracin]

whats the best budget atv for woods riding? i was thinking z400?

[Sjorge450R]

z400 or 400ex. I personally would go with the honda since its less complicated (air cooled not liquid like the z)

[beastlywarrior]

warrior

[fastredrider44]

400ex, or Z400 if you want a little more performance which comes with a little more maintenance. But either can make great woods quads.

[Tommy Warren]

or a raptor, renegade 800, outlaw irs, 700xx

[KingpinsEx]

400ex hands down, they are plentify, cheap, and have a ton of aftermarket parts avaiable. Plus the maintenance for the performance you get cannot be matched!

[BakerRacing40]

400ex... no doubt and if you get ready for serious power swap in a 450 engine. but suspension geometry is really good imo.. which makes up for hp in some ways.. used aftermarket parts are everywhere too..

[riggsracin]

i think warriors have no power, i would get a 300ex first

[Mxjunkie]

250r or a 400ex.. Both handle nice, run good and parts are cheap.. motor wise the 250r is cheaper but parts are a becoming a bitach to find, I can't find anything for mine like what was offered just a few years ago.. :(

[riggsracin]

i have seen decent 400ex and 250rs for around 1200

[beastlywarrior]

Originally posted by riggsracin
i think warriors have no power, i would get a 300ex first

every warrior ive ridden has plenty of power to make a great trail quad every stock 300 ive seen has less but their not much competion to most 400s

[riggsracin]

i just have never liked them.

[beastlywarrior]

oh ok a 400ex might suit you well theres a lot for sale right now

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by Mxjunkie
250r or a 400ex.. Both handle nice, run good and parts are cheap.. motor wise the 250r is cheaper but parts are a becoming a bitach to find, I can't find anything for mine like what was offered just a few years ago.. :(

holy fbomb! 11K+ post?!?! holy tittys...

i would say a 400ex or 250r, some of the 250r stuff is starting to come back around... i think they will start to reman some parts or some one will make them...

if you have the money i would also check out a yzf... the motors are really strong, i think the 04's you need to watch the cams a bit cause they dont have oil ports on them...

[riggsracin]

has any body ever had an atk or cannondales? predators?

[woodsracer144]

i would stay as far away form polaris as you could... the cdale were ok... said to handle pretty good... im not really sure on the motor though... i would buy one if i could and try it out... you alway can make it a hybred...

[beastlywarrior]

ive heard nothin but good about predators i personally want an outlaw 525s:D

[SRH]

Originally posted by woodsracer144
i would stay as far away form polaris as you could... the cdale were ok... said to handle pretty good... im not really sure on the motor though... i would buy one if i could and try it out... you alway can make it a hybred...

i woudlnt touch a cannondale..... you must not of been into quads during there day lol

between the 2 id go with the predator, polaris are high maintenence but it performed decent

[riggsracin]

there just hasnt been any cdales around. predator seemed ok. the outlaws sale cheap

[SRH]

Originally posted by woodsracer144
holy fbomb! 11K+ post?!?! holy tittys...

i would say a 400ex or 250r, some of the 250r stuff is starting to come back around... i think they will start to reman some parts or some one will make them...

if you have the money i would also check out a yzf... the motors are really strong, i think the 04's you need to watch the cams a bit cause they dont have oil ports on them...

it has nothing to do with the cams...... the 04s-05s were really not troublesome unless you didnt do your maintence, the 04-05 had a splash fed wrist pin bearing which oiled fine with oem components and proper maintence, guys with work updated to a yzf style oil squirter that bcs does for 75 bucks and yamaha did this standard in 06 just to open the reliability, 04 also had a rubber decomp plug that blew out from time to time

i would go with the 07 and newer just for the updated swingarm bearing carrier

[riggsracin]

yea i raced an 05 in gncc and changed oil every race and cleaned air filter and never had a prob. but i wouldnt consider a yfz budget

[yfzrider690]

Originally posted by SRH
it has nothing to do with the cams...... the 04s-05s were really not troublesome unless you didnt do your maintence, the 04-05 had a splash fed wrist pin bearing which oiled fine with oem components and proper maintence, guys with work updated to a yzf style oil squirter that bcs does for 75 bucks and yamaha did this standard in 06 just to open the reliability, 04 also had a rubber decomp plug that blew out from time to time

i would go with the 07 and newer just for the updated swingarm bearing carrier

You are right on everything you said except they didn't have the oil squirter in the '06 models, they didn't start doing it until '07.

[riggsracin]

so far it come down to 400ex predator z400 and copycats, 250r

[SRH]

Originally posted by riggsracin
yea i raced an 05 in gncc and changed oil every race and cleaned air filter and never had a prob. but i wouldnt consider a yfz budget

whats the budget ...this time of yr you shouldbe able to get one for 2k or less same as a 400ex z 400 etc

[yfzrider690]

I wouldn't go with a 2 stroke for the woods. 4 strokes are way better. I would go with the z400 just for the fact that it is water cooled. I'm not putting down the honda because it is a good quad but I like to have that extra protection that a water cooled bike has.

[riggsracin]

i see alot of 400ex with the wrist pin worn out.

[wrekd]

I loved my 400ex for woods riding. That thing was so easy to throw around and it was geared perfect. The only thing that sucked is it didn't have reverse. But if you get an 05+, thats not a problem. Can't beat the ease of maintenance and reliability either.

[Blizzard24]

If you are looking for a used woods quad, go w the Z400's. The engine are bulletproof, easily upgraded w a 434 or 450 kit if you want more. there are a ton of parts for them.

The frames are pretty weak but nothing a gussett kit cant fix. I had a KFX400 and it was one of my all time favorite quads... it did nothing wrong.

[Jigsaw]

I'd also say either a 400ex or Z400. Although I think the KFX450 is perfect for the woods, but Im kinda biased lol. The outlaw 525irs is nice too, just a little too heavy to throw around like I do my kfx. But for the price, parts available, and realiability, you can't beat a 400, its the best all around quad you can get IMO

[riggsracin]

i just thought it would be a good topix