My winter motocross bike build

[Honda 250r 001]

Heres the begginning of my motocross 250r. Im currently working on the frame, gusseting, welding cracks, sand blasting and powdercoating. Im going to coat the frame a orange with black swingarm and a arms. I will get updates as i go along. Engine is gonna be a short rod ct 310 on pump gas. Hopefully pep rear shock otherwise stock, and pep long travel front shocks.

PARTS IM LOOKING FOR:

400ex brake pads
250r rear brake pads
250r rear rotor
+2 or +3 braided front brake lines
Sprocket hub


Thanks!

[trx310R#24]

sweet! alot of winter builds =) awesome.

[Honda5]

glad to see another 250r mx quad. I wish they would put in a 2 stroke class in our local dist. I have the pep rear shock you need!!!

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I had to add the lower motor mount since i am going to be running an 88-89 swingarm on this build. I hope the mounts hold...

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pro peg mounts!

anyone have any oppinions on the gussets? Look good? comments on the crappy welds lol

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with pro pegs slid on...

[woodsracer144]

you should box the pivot bolt,

[86 Quad R]

Originally posted by woodsracer144
you should box the pivot bolt,

agree'd X's2 :cool:

startin' to shape up.

[woodsracer144]

look at this... its not the great pic but its the best i have right now...

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by woodsracer144
you should box the pivot bolt,

Its already had a plate welded to it so its double thick. I just decided thats enough strength there. Plus i need to get this build on the move and dont have time to fab up the plates... But good sugestions guys! keep em comin!

[86 Quad R]

if your going to be racing you should at least consider it. it doesnt take long at all to fab that up...... heres another pic for reference.

:cool:

[woodsracer144]

^^ hes got a stroger one i think... but with the OE set up your going to have todo a set up kinda like mine, honestly dude, its will worth the time and money, then you dont have to wine and cry about your chassis being all cracked up and people ****ing you over! haha! jk ;)

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by woodsracer144
^^ hes got a stroger one i think... but with the OE set up your going to have todo a set up kinda like mine, honestly dude, its will worth the time and money, then you dont have to wine and cry about your chassis being all cracked up and people ****ing you over! haha! jk ;)

aite, we will see what i can work out on the pivot point. Ill be lucky to have thie build finished by spring!

[CODY_M11]

if you plan on doing anymore welding i would suggest turning up the volts a lil. the welds are to convex and look cold. jmo

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by CODY_M11
if you plan on doing anymore welding i would suggest turning up the volts a lil. the welds are to convex and look cold. jmo

ya, i had it set like that because i was scared of burning through. Since its not usually the weld that cracks again, i figured it would be fine. The only place i wish i would have kicked it up a notch is rear lower motor mount. Im thinking about welding side to side over that one again and see if i can make it any better. :/

[Honda 250r 001]

What if i just put a 90 degree piece of metal running from the plat that the swing arm bolts to, to the frame rails? would that work too?

[croat1]

Originally posted by Honda 250r 001
ya, i had it set like that because i was scared of burning through. Since its not usually the weld that cracks again, i figured it would be fine. The only place i wish i would have kicked it up a notch is rear lower motor mount. Im thinking about welding side to side over that one again and see if i can make it any better. :/


i think you better rethink those welds. it's good that you are trying to repair it yourself but......should you be welding on anything that you are scared of burning through? and as far as you comment about the weld not cracking? not usually huh? bet that frame cracks quicker than you think

my point is that certain things must be done right or risk damaging more parts or yourself.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by croat1
i think you better rethink those welds. it's good that you are trying to repair it yourself but......should you be welding on anything that you are scared of burning through? and as far as you comment about the weld not cracking? not usually huh? bet that frame cracks quicker than you think

my point is that certain things must be done right or risk damaging more parts or yourself.

the frame is hard as hell to weld on. The welds are not that bad. The frame cracks quick because its made out of flimsy crappy material... my welds will hold fine but thats for the comment.

[woodsracer144]

the frame isnt made of crap.... its 20+ years old and has gone through hell...

[86 Quad R]

your missing the point...... and the frames arent crappy. they are a flex design and if nawt welded correctly can/will cause cracking in the immediate area of which was welded/modded/repaired. understand?

i personally preferr tig on repaired cracks ect. although a good mig setup will be fine for the most part.

[woodsracer144]

i wish i could give you a high 5 right now! A+ work right there!

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by 86 Quad R
your missing the point...... and the frames arent crappy. they are a flex design and if nawt welded correctly can/will cause cracking in the immediate area of which was welded/modded/repaired. understand?

i personally preferr tig on repaired cracks ect. although a good mig setup will be fine for the most part.

i guess we will see how it holds up, but i think it will be just fine.

[machwon]

I think you will be fine with your welds. The frame will always flex and break the frame, the welds will never be flexible. Besides, that's what welding is all about, if it breaks yo just fix it again.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by machwon
I think you will be fine with your welds. The frame will always flex and break the frame, the welds will never be flexible. Besides, that's what welding is all about, if it breaks yo just fix it again.

live and learn, if they happen to break ill just reweld and go, atleast im using an oe frame thats not worth a dime.

[woodsracer144]

that frame with crack and beat to **** some one would still take it, some people know how towork **** and will make that baby mint!

[Honda 250r 001]

Updates coming soon!!!!! Ive got the frame painted, and a few things bolted on.

[yz450hybrid]

Hey,

If you still need 400ex front hubs, i have a pair of nacs aluminum front hubs thta i will sell for $150 shipped let me know thanks

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Still looking for:
400ex front brake pads
+2 or +3 brake lines
250r rear brake pads

THANKS!

[Derrick Adams]

I'm running stock 450R front brake lines on my +3 Houser front-end. Just letting you know that they will work if your on a tight budget. They have plenty of length and not bind.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by Derrick Adams
I'm running stock 450R front brake lines on my +3 Houser front-end. Just letting you know that they will work if your on a tight budget. They have plenty of length and not bind.

how did you get the brake lines to mount up? did you use the whole assembly up to the handle bars? Or did you just use the two pieces that go to the a arms?

THANKS!!!!!

[312R1]

Originally posted by Honda 250r 001
Still looking for:
400ex front brake pads
+2 or +3 brake lines
250r rear brake pads

THANKS!

I have some lines but I'll have to check to see what length they are.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by 312R1
I have some lines but I'll have to check to see what length they are.

Thanks! that would be great! You dont have a price yet until you find out the length i assume?
Thanks
Will

[312R1]

Originally posted by Honda 250r 001
Thanks! that would be great! You dont have a price yet until you find out the length i assume?
Thanks
Will

I sure don't.. they will be fairly cheap.

[Derrick Adams]

Originally posted by Honda 250r 001
how did you get the brake lines to mount up? did you use the whole assembly up to the handle bars? Or did you just use the two pieces that go to the a arms?

THANKS!!!!!

I used the whole front line assembly, although I changed out the steel line so I could mount the top line real sanitary. I'll get you a pic soon. I should tell you though that I had to ziptie the lines to the upper control arms because I didn't have any fancy clamps.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by 312R1
I sure don't.. they will be fairly cheap. great, shoot me a pm when you get the info on em!
Thanks

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by Derrick Adams
I used the whole front line assembly, although I changed out the steel line so I could mount the top line real sanitary. I'll get you a pic soon. I should tell you though that I had to ziptie the lines to the upper control arms because I didn't have any fancy clamps.

That would be good just incase the lines that 312R1 have arent the correct ones for me.
Thanks

[Honda 250r 001]

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last one for now, i still need to put some things on, but most of its there! see if you can point out the things that are missing.

[born2ride14]

Originally posted by Honda 250r 001
last one for now, i still need to put some things on, but most of its there! see if you can point out the things that are missing.

ok
Plastics
seat
gastank
rear carrier housing bolts
front nerf bolts
front calipers and brakelines
you grab bar is upside down

i am pretty sure thats it
:D :D :D :D

[312R1]

Originally posted by born2ride14
ok
Plastics
seat
gastank
rear carrier housing bolts
front nerf bolts
front calipers and brakelines
you grab bar is upside down

i am pretty sure thats it
:D :D :D :D

Pipe.

[exrider12]

Decent tires:ermm:

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by exrider12
Decent tires:ermm:

You dont lik em? lol, they work dang good actually. I just wish they were 18's :/

[Honda 250r 001]

Shes alllllmost finished

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One thing ive noticed is the rear end is much stiffer than before, i think it must be beacuse of the -2 swingarm, changing the leverage ratio...

[rooster300ex]

Originally posted by Honda 250r 001
You dont lik em? lol, they work dang good actually. I just wish they were 18's :/

I was gonna say i like them back tires. they still look like low profile tires. they will work great

[trx310R#24]

Originally posted by Honda 250r 001
side

whys your grab bar on wrong...

but it is an awesome quad!

[Honda 250r 001]

I+thought+the+grab+bar+looked+better+upside+down

[trx310R#24]

Originally posted by Honda 250r 001
I+thought+the+grab+bar+looked+better+upside+down

oh i just wanted to know if there was a point. haha but again nice quad. and i love them a arms what kind are they?

[trx90luke]

sweet 250r

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by trx310R#24
oh i just wanted to know if there was a point. haha but again nice quad. and i love them a arms what kind are they?

they would be FLP or Frontline performance. There pretty sweet a arms, not perfectly made though.

[2007R]

Hey lookin good glad its finally bout down so we can ride..
looks sweet tho, like a all new R.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by 2007R
Hey lookin good glad its finally bout down so we can ride..
looks sweet tho, like a all new R.

Hell ya, now maybe you can trade your POS 4-stroke for a 250r and THEN we will ride. haha. :D

[baker250r]

you would have been better off finding spindles off of a 04-05 450r. less bump steer. but im assuming you don't race the A class, so all the little things I would tell you wouldn't be of any benefit to you

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by baker250r
you would have been better off finding spindles off of a 04-05 450r. less bump steer. but im assuming you don't race the A class, so all the little things I would tell you wouldn't be of any benefit to you

Well my original intentions were to find some 450r spindles. but the 04-05's are so damn expensive... So i just went with the 400ex's.

[baker250r]

yea it happens. i got a 400ex complete front setup im lookin to get rid of... calipers rotors spindles and hubs. along with some TCS long travel front shocks.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by baker250r
yea it happens. i got a 400ex complete front setup im lookin to get rid of... calipers rotors spindles and hubs. along with some TCS long travel front shocks.

can you really tell that much difference between the 450r and 400ex spindles? Rite now... all im interested in would be a rear shock...

[baker250r]

well put it this way. I had an 06 450r, and I put the 04-05 spindles. and it is night and day. but again, for somebody on a budget and isnt looking to be top of the A class... its not important.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by baker250r
well put it this way. I had an 06 450r, and I put the 04-05 spindles. and it is night and day. but again, for somebody on a budget and isnt looking to be top of the A class... its not important.

ya. Does anyone know if the 400ex spindles handle better than the 250r? I just bought em cause there lighter...

[baker250r]

i believe they are the same... just
lighter

[J_bob_28]

where do u ride at???

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by J_bob_28
where do u ride at???

inman, maize, winfield, park city and marion mostly... Some dunes and kanapolis lake... How bout you?

[Honda 250r 001]

now guess what? My new lonestar swingarm is rubbing the engine case?!!! looks like im gona have to restart on motor mounts..... ugh... how ****in depressing...

[J_bob_28]

i ride mainly at inman. really hopin to hit up marion and jeeps some more this spring. supposedly they are completely redoing the inman track here by the middle of march. hopefully they dont completely ruin it.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by J_bob_28
i ride mainly at inman. really hopin to hit up marion and jeeps some more this spring. supposedly they are completely redoing the inman track here by the middle of march. hopefully they dont completely ruin it.

oh i think there gonna make it wayyy better. because i read that it was last redid in the 70's... We'll hit it up some time at inman.. were planning on going the 13th...

[J_bob_28]

crap i'll be leaving for waynoka on the 14th. i'll have to catch you out there sometime though. and about the inman track.... They completely redid it like 2 years ago. The guys that built the track down at jeeps came in and did it. It was pretty sweet they just didnt take care of it at all. As far as i know they are suposed to start rebuilding it sometime in march here.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by J_bob_28
crap i'll be leaving for waynoka on the 14th. i'll have to catch you out there sometime though. and about the inman track.... They completely redid it like 2 years ago. The guys that built the track down at jeeps came in and did it. It was pretty sweet they just didnt take care of it at all. As far as i know they are suposed to start rebuilding it sometime in march here.

ill c u at waynoka man... i changed my mind and im going on the the 14th too.

EDIT:!!! After one year of harsh motocross, supercross racing. I havnt had one crack, bend or break on this frame. Welds are holding up just fine. :)