new to 250rs need input

[john300rider]

my dad is letting me trade him my 300ex for his 250r so i can comtinue racing this upcoming season. the r needs a clutch, and he says he wants me to do a top end job. its all original parts but it starts and runs perfect. has plenty of compression. what should i do? i found a clutch on rocky mountan atv for 40 bucks. tusk is the brand. im on a 250$ budget so i cant go crazy guys even though id love to :(

[john300rider]

please help me out with this. i know you guys are gurus and know whats quality and crap help me out

[Honda 250r 001]

250r's are much faster than 300ex!!!!!! Do the trade!!!!! If the R has good compression, It dones not need a top end!! YOu will be very happy

[john300rider]

i did the trade already, im 16 and cant race a open c class on a 300 lol ill get burned. but im going to race b on the r. i need to know what you think about the tusk clutch kit? what do you reccoment for it?

[Honda 250r 001]

tusk kit is a very good clutch imo

[john300rider]

it has good feel and wont go bad fast? and its an 86 and i have works triple rates in the front and works in the back with rezzie on back. the squeek and feel to soft, who should i have tune them?

[Honda 250r 001]

you can usually turn an adjustor to make them firmer, or softer. but the squeak is prolly just dry bushings or ball joints.

[john300rider]

sweet, so any tricks or tips you have for me? im a four stroke guy and not used to the 250s yet

[mineralgrey01gt]

hope you can work the powerband well in the turns. I heard if you can do that, then you will dominate on a 250r. Also if you want to beef up the top motor mount. I have a Laeger's top motor mount in my shed ill sell for $50 shipped. It is WAY nicer than the stockers. I also have some other parts for sale also

[john300rider]

happen to have any top end kits or clutch kits? just list what yah got ill let you know

[1promodfan]

You need to search for Neils (C-Leigh Racing) clutch mod. You do it and you'll be O.K. There's no need to spend big bucks for a clutch. I can't remember the whole setup, but its something like, you take one fiber out and put in a fiber from a 400EX. That makes all the plates thicker, and you use CR500 springs etc. Like I said, you need to do a search for it.

[1promodfan]

Here ya go, I searched it for ya and just pasted it.

When you slip a clutch enough to discolor the metal plates, it warpped those thin plates out of shape, so now they a not flat like they were when new.
It dont take a plate to be warpped very much to cause a clutch to not disengauge after the engines hot.

Your going to need all new plates, fiber & metal.

Heres the clutch mod.
CR500 springs
1 400EX metal plate to replace one of the 250R plates
6 of the aluminum washers like go on the transmission drain bolt

When you do this mod & you got to get new fiber plates anyways, in makes no difference if you get a high priced set of fiber plates or the cheapest you can find, cause slipping is over.

Pull one of the 250R metal plates out & then take the 400EX metal plate & put it in the middle of the whole clutch pack.
Install the CR500 springs & then on the outside between the spring & presure plate bolt, put one washer on each spring, aline them all up & tighten the bolts down evenly between each other.

Now, adjust your clutch lever adjuster all the way in & then adjust the cable end where it mounts to the side of the engine to take just about all of the play out of the cable & lever.
Once you run the engine some & all the new clutch stuff gets seated, may need to readjust the cable end on the engine just a little bit more or you could just fine tune with the adjuster at the lever.

[john300rider]

do i need to do this mod? and where would i go about getting the cr500 springs?

[1promodfan]

Originally posted by john300rider
do i need to do this mod? and where would i go about getting the cr500 springs?

I'm not gonna say that you need it, but if you are replacing the clutch in it......I say why not.

[kookennay]

i have an 86 and just did the 89 upgrade wit the tusk clutch you are talking about. the 89 upgrade helped me alot. i didnt see what year yours was so it may already have it. but i going to do niels clutch mod next time i tear into the clutch for sure. rocky mountain has the cr 500 springs.

[emullen]

just reading the thread- what does neils clutch mod do? what is the reason for /benefit of doing it?

does it help slippage if your motor is too powerful?
wouldn't make the clutch pull heavier with the 500 springs?

thanks in advance for the info