Pontiac

[EX lvr]

so ive been pretty bummed that pontiac appears to be going under. the only cars ive ever owned was pontiac firebirds. my uncle has a 64 gto with a 389 and a 4 spd. i guess it just sucks another american legend is biten the dust. i havent been on here in awhile but i just thought i would share lol. heres a pic of the 2 i have now. the one on the left is a 02 formula with t-tops. ls1 and a 6 spd. the one on the right is my 91 formula ws6 with the 5.0 HO automatic with t-tops. ive owned a 93 with an lt1 and a 94 with a 3.4 v6. i love em all lol. just got back from afghanistan and bought the blue one and she's my baby haha i love picken on ricers and ridin around with the tops down. most all my buddies growin up have owned camaros and mustangs, i love real cars. btw google savepontiac and sign a petition to see if we can get it back. peace!:cool:

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[Pipeless416]

pontiac has been done for a little while now :( i'm a ford guy, but i love trans ams, gto's, g8s and grand prix's.

[Sjorge450R]

i am currently saving up so I can buy a Trans-Am. I am looking at getting a ram air. I just love the style of those hoods and I definitely will be making sure that it has t-tops.

Proud new owner of a 93 formula LT1 here.

I love pontiacs. Mechanically they're all great but it's everything else that falls apart on them. Power windows locks all that kinda bullcrap. But I love F-bodies with a passion.

Know what pontiac stands for?

For the pontiac bonneville,
Poor Old Nigga Thinks It's A Cadilac

For the Firebird,
Poor Old Nigga Thinks It's A Corvette

:p
I wish they didn't go out.

[b.lee]

Long live the LS1!!



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And long live the LT1!!

few funnies.. haha.

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[Haulinbass]

since when was a firebird a muscle car, there pony cars. muscle cars that carry a purse.

really they havnt been good cars since the early seventies, with the 80s being the worst cars in history.

Im just bagging on them because it seems only three types of people drive cameros and firebirds 1. women in their 20s 2. douches that still act like "the fonz" 3. cops. all three will drive around with the stock stereo blasting generic rock and roll or even worse yet nickleback.

really they need to go back to what made the cars popular(for the camero at least it still lives) small car, lightweight, high revving 302 cubic inch motor and fairly good handling.

then again what do i know I drive a ford with 14 inches of wheel travel and 35 inch tires

Oh boy. Here we go. All those "Funny" pics that are posted are pretty funny... Because they LIE. lol. Every camaro/firebird nut swinger pulls out the, "Ford has to use a supercharger to beat us." Don't get me wrong, I love LS1/LT1 camaro's but I know the 03/04 Cobra's are far superior.

Read Iron Fist, Lead Foot: John Coletti and Ford's Terminator

Originally posted by Haulinbass
since when was a firebird a muscle car, there pony cars. muscle cars that carry a purse.

really they havnt been good cars since the early seventies, with the 80s being the worst cars in history.

Im just bagging on them because it seems only three types of people drive cameros and firebirds 1. women in their 20s 2. douches that still act like "the fonz" 3. cops. all three will drive around with the stock stereo blasting generic rock and roll or even worse yet nickleback.

really they need to go back to what made the cars popular(for the camero at least it still lives) small car, lightweight, high revving 302 cubic inch motor and fairly good handling.

then again what do i know I drive a ford with 14 inches of wheel travel and 35 inch tires

LOL I'm not any of those. I'm just a kid that's always loved the body style of the firebirds.

The 93-02 F-bodies are fairly light, high-revving, and very good handling. The old muscle cars handled like dog dirt..
And they have some snot to them.

And im not dissing mustangs either, just playing around. I was actually just about to buy one before I got a better deal on my firechicken.

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
And im not dissing mustangs either, just playing around. I was actually just about to buy one before I got a better deal on my firechicken.

I remember. lol. Just addin' some fuel to the fire. :devil:

[Pipeless416]

Originally posted by Haulinbass
since when was a firebird a muscle car, there pony cars. muscle cars that carry a purse.

really they havnt been good cars since the early seventies, with the 80s being the worst cars in history.

Im just bagging on them because it seems only three types of people drive cameros and firebirds 1. women in their 20s 2. douches that still act like "the fonz" 3. cops. all three will drive around with the stock stereo blasting generic rock and roll or even worse yet nickleback.

really they need to go back to what made the cars popular(for the camero at least it still lives) small car, lightweight, high revving 302 cubic inch motor and fairly good handling.

then again what do i know I drive a ford with 14 inches of wheel travel and 35 inch tires

hate much? :rolleyes: :p

Originally posted by Haulinbass


Im just bagging on them because it seems only three types of people drive cameros

(for the camero at least it still lives)

Learn how to spell camaro first, then we'll talk.

[b.lee]

Originally posted by Nova
Oh boy. Here we go. All those "Funny" pics that are posted are pretty funny... Because they LIE. lol. Every camaro/firebird nut swinger pulls out the, "Ford has to use a supercharger to beat us." Don't get me wrong, I love LS1/LT1 camaro's but I know the 03/04 Cobra's are far superior.

Read Iron Fist, Lead Foot: John Coletti and Ford's Terminator

I wouldn't say far superior, but the price tag sure is. Faster? Yes.

With the extra money saved a far superior supercharger can be purchased & tuned for the ls1 car.

The 03+ cobras are to ls1's
As ls1's are to the 5.0's

More money you have, the faster the car you start with.

[Jackson723]

Here's mine. 2000 Ram-Air fully loaded. For Sale


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[muddy400EX]

Originally posted by Nova
Oh boy. Here we go. All those "Funny" pics that are posted are pretty funny... Because they LIE. lol. Every camaro/firebird nut swinger pulls out the, "Ford has to use a supercharger to beat us." Don't get me wrong, I love LS1/LT1 camaro's but I know the 03/04 Cobra's are far superior.

Read Iron Fist, Lead Foot: John Coletti and Ford's Terminator

funny you say "nut swingers" cause to me it sounds like your a mustang "nut swinger" i bet if mustangs had a penis you would probably suck it:blah:

and i know s/c stangs are sweet cars (i would take one in a heartbeat), but i dont see them being "superior". i mean if a stang is s/c and beats an f-bod, throw a s/c on the f-bod and run a fair race
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Originally posted by b.lee
With the extra money saved a far superior supercharger can be purchased & tuned for the ls1 car.

Well if you're smart you wouldn't put a supercharger on an LS1. But from reading your post I can tell you're lacking in the LS1/Cobra department. 17k can get you a Cobra around here, 10k will get you an LS1. LS1's respond well to bolt-ons.... to a point. You can probably get in the 4-500 range with 7k into an LS1. Now a Cobra, you can get into the 6-700 range with a measley 4k. Not to mention you're driving a car that is more desired by most. 03/04 cobra's > LS1. This is coming from a Chevy fan. I have done plenty of homework on Terminator cobra's ever since Mean250R bought his. Read Iron Fist Lead Foot, then we'll talk. No matter how you try and rationalize that an LS1 is better than a Cobra... You will be wrong.

Originally posted by muddy400EX
I mean if a stang is s/c and beats an f-bod, throw a s/c on the f-bod and run a fair race

That is what EVERY non-educated Chevy guy says. Hell I used to say it, but regardless it's wrong. I am a Chevy guy and the only Ford I will ever own is a Terminator. Ford and John Coletti did there homework when building the 03/04 Cobra's and there is no doubt in my mind that they won the "pony wars". I personally cannot wait until the new Z/28 comes out and the GT500 kills it just to hear what all the Chevy guys will say then... 'cause guess what, they will both be running F/I! "GT500 has been out longer and has been revised more." LOL! GTFO!

Originally posted by muddy400EX

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BTW- I can post vid's all day....
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[TCracin440ex]

what dont you understand forced induction is a total different story then a built motor. motor for motor w/ no super charger the stang comes factory with a 4.6 ltr v8 and the maros come factory with a 5.7ltr v8.

post up an equal race of a supercharged camaro vs a supercharged cobra and see which one wins. the camaro by a long shot.

nova you are dumb. get off fords penis for real. ive got respect for any fast car or truck but you are just on the mustang bandwagon like every other mustang guy.

[muddy400EX]

Originally posted by TCracin440ex
what dont you understand forced induction is a total different story then a built motor. motor for motor w/ no super charger the stang comes factory with a 4.6 ltr v8 and the maros come factory with a 5.7ltr v8.

post up an equal race of a supercharged camaro vs a supercharged cobra and see which one wins. the camaro by a long shot.

nova you are dumb. get off fords penis for real. ive got respect for any fast car or truck but you are just on the mustang bandwagon like every other mustang guy.

thank you! so nova are you saying an fboy should never be charged? i mean anything can be done if done right wtf
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[TCracin440ex]

even better vid...TURBO camaro



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Originally posted by TCracin440ex
what dont you understand forced induction is a total different story then a built motor. motor for motor w/ no super charger the stang comes factory with a 4.6 ltr v8 and the maros come factory with a 5.7ltr v8.

post up an equal race of a supercharged camaro vs a supercharged cobra and see which one wins. the camaro by a long shot.

nova you are dumb. get off fords penis for real. ive got respect for any fast car or truck but you are just on the mustang bandwagon like every other mustang guy.


Originally posted by muddy400EX
thank you! so nova are you saying an fboy should never be charged? i mean anything can be done if done right wtf


Muddy- I know it can be done and has been done but you can get more power from LS1's going all motor.

TC- You are a dumb *** who needs to read before he talks. I love LS1's and do not like any mustang except for the Terminator. I would own an LS1 but the Terminator's are BETTER. Do some research before opening your big *** mouth. You can claim all day, "It's not fair, ford is supercharged." Race what you brought and STFU. Well guess what, ford brought more the the table and shat all over Chevy with a stock car that claims 390 horse at the flywheel but dyno's have proven that is an under-rating and it's actually 390 to the wheels. Not to mention fully forged internals STOCK. Stock vs. stock is completely fair and guess what!? FORD ****ING WON SO GTFO AND STFU.

---Anyone who read the topic when mean250r bought his Termi, was I this ****ing dumb? Good lord, you dumb *****s need to go read and do some homework before you try and debate. GTFO.

[TCracin440ex]

yet again you are stupid because you compare a cobra to a camaro....compare the cobra to the new zr1 vette thats factory SC'd and see what comes out on top then come talk to me how do you figure ford brought more to the table. mustang has been trying to keep up with the chevrolet camaro for years to come now. the only way they was able to beat the camaro was with the addition of DOHC and a supercharger and a larger price tag. with the money saved off NOT buying a cobra u could build an ls1 to the max. with the addition of forced induction turbo or supercharger and still leave the SLOBRA sitting at the starting stripe. please STFU bc u dont understand the concept of forced induction.

YES FORD had to put a supercharger on their mustang to be able to beat a chevy, but put the supercharger on the chevy too and watch who is sitting back laughing...hell and the punk *** vids you posted are c6 corvettes vs a whippe superchargd stang. which is an aftermarket supercharger at that. but race that same car vs a z06 with bolt ons and watch which one wins. a buddy of mine had both z06 and a cobra...he said the z06 was alot better car handled better and had alot more going for it then the ford ever did.

Once again, people bringing the higher priced cars into play... A ZR1 has nothing to do with a Cobra. Jesus Christ. Lets compare a Camaro to damn Ferrari Fxx. Shut the **** up. I'm done arguing with you because you see through a ****ing straw. I love Chevy and even I realize the Terminator is a superior car to the LS1. PERIOD.

ZR1 is completely different price tag sweet heart.

Edit- BTW, the Cobra didn't just beat the Camaro and LS1's but it also went to it's daddy, the Z06, and slapped it in the face.

[TCracin440ex]

what a *** dont call me sweetheart

how do you figure the 4.6 ltr dohc is a better motor then the 5.7ltr ls1? please break it down for me. i do not understand all mighty god. please shed light upon thee....

um and FYI ford didnt make the SVT line of cars to compete with the camaro...ford made the SVT to try and keep up with the vette.

Originally posted by TCracin440ex


um and FYI ford didnt make the SVT line of cars to compete with the camaro...ford made the SVT to try and keep up with the vette.


Originally posted by Nova


Edit- BTW, the Cobra didn't just beat the Camaro and LS1's but it also went to it's daddy, the Z06, and slapped it in the face.

They didn't try to keep up with the Vette sweetheart. They succeeded in whooping it's ***. LMAO :D

[400ex28]

Originally posted by Nova
sweet heart.


Originally posted by Nova
sweetheart.

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[TCracin440ex]

lmao @ the slap in the face to the z06....wow now i really know your smoking crack...please lay the crack pipe down your starting to hallucinate.

[TCracin440ex]

since we are comparing apples to oranges and oranges to apples lets talk here we go...watch your ford get pwned by a z06 vette with the 427ci ls7 motor

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Originally posted by TCracin440ex
since we are comparing apples to oranges and oranges to apples lets talk here we go...watch your ford get pwned by a z06 vette with the 427ci ls7 motor

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lol @ Z06 Red Light.

[TCracin440ex]

yea and the 2nd time he aint redlight shyt

the cobra didnt even remotely begin to reel him back in with almost 4x boost as the vette...the cobra 26lbs the vette 7 so please STFU get off cobras penis

oh and why you keep postin useless vids of rustangs...they all belong in the crusher imo....they are a chick ride. and teenage boys cars whos parents wont let them have a vehicle with real hp

yet again your idiot *** does not understand FORCED INDUCTION

[TCracin440ex]

EVERY VIDEO YOUR POSTING JUST MAKES YOUR SELF LOOK THAT MUCH DUMBER BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF THEM COBRAS HAS AFTERMARKET SUPERCHARGERS...I KNOW WHAT A KB WHINE SOUNDS LIKE AND I KNOW WHAT THE WHIPPLE WHINE SOUNDS LIKE...GOES TO SHOW MY POINT THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO BUY A DOUCHE BAG CAR AND PUT AN ADDITIONAL 5 OR MORE IN IT WITH AN AFTERMARKET SUPERCHARGER. CLASS IS OVER!! IM DONE NOT POSTING ANYMORE ON THIS THREAD YOU ARE OFFICIALLY ARE A COMPLETE RETARD AND PROVED MY POINT 100X OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT EVEN THO FORD COMES FACTORY WITH SC PPL STILL HAVE TO SWAP THEM OUT FOR AN EXPENSIVE SUPERCHARGER JUST TO EVEN BE IN THE SAME CLASS AS A VETTE OR CAMARO

[Toadz400]

Nova...I think you need to do a little more research. You're doing a lot of comparing of apples to oranges and you're making yourself look like a child, which might very well be the case.

GM's LS-based engines are amazing engines with unlimited potential. Just using GM's factory parts you can build a monster engine for relatively little money. Why is it that you're comparing a Cobra (which is an aftermarket modified Ford) to stock Camaro's and Corvette's?

TCracing440ex - Just drop it man, he's just succeeding at riling you up. Anyone with common sense can see all the fail in his arguments. No reason to let this thread go anymore downhill than it already has and be closed.

[hypersnyper6947]

Originally posted by Nova
lol @ Z06 Red Light.

yea not to mention the cobra smokes the tires for the first 1/8th lol .........

[TCracin440ex]

Originally posted by Toadz400
TCracing440ex - Just drop it man, he's just succeeding at riling you up. Anyone with common sense can see all the fail in his arguments. No reason to let this thread go anymore downhill than it already has and be closed.

agreed'

Originally posted by hypersnyper6947
yea not to mention the cobra smokes the tires for the first 1/8th lol .........

Yeah. If he hooked Z06 would've been done. Cobra's are amazing cars for the price. 30k Cobra eats up 70k Z06's for dinner. :D

[Haulinbass]

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
LOL I'm not any of those. I'm just a kid that's always loved the body style of the firebirds.

The 93-02 F-bodies are fairly light, high-revving, and very good handling. The old muscle cars handled like dog dirt..
And they have some snot to them.


damn near 4000lbs is not light, and a 69 z/28 does not handle like dog dirt, a good set of tires and they actually handle very good and are a lighter car than what was sold in the 90s.
i liked the way the firebird looked when i was 12 but relized they are for people that like to draw attention to themselves.

Fords and chevys make diffrent type of power, a ford is strong from the bottom up untill about 3500-4000rpm a chevy pulls ok off the bottom but pulls hard from about 3500 to redline.

hate is a strong word, I dont hate anything i just poke fun at things, and expect to get it in return. two of my buddies drive WRXs you think i dont tell them granola crunching lesbians drive subarus, they rib me back saying only mullet wearing rednecks and soccer moms drive ford f-150s.

to put some debate to rest this is a production zr1, corvettes wernt built to race in a straight line.
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4000lbs??? Where the hell did you get that number from.. lol. They're about 3200. They're actually nice cars. Like I said, im not one of those stereo types you mentioned. I'm just simply a person that likes everything about the Fbodies. It's a poor-mans vette.

[Ichoptop]

You can sit and argue all day back and forth. The more money you dump into it that faster you go. Doesnt matter if it a Ford, Chevy or Honda. You bring a small block and I'll bring a big block, you run a supercharger I'll run a blower, you run nos and I'll run alcohol ect ect ect. It never ends.

If you want to compare bone stock mass produced factory cars then the best would have to be the late 90s WS6 Trans Am. Chevy managment was so pissed at Pontiac when they released it. Not only would it destroy the Camaro and Mustang but it out ran the vette and held it's own vs the Viper GT. I still have the copy of road and track where they did the write up.

[Haulinbass]

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
4000lbs??? Where the hell did you get that number from.. lol. They're about 3200. They're actually nice cars. Like I said, im not one of those stereo types you mentioned. I'm just simply a person that likes everything about the Fbodies. It's a poor-mans vette.

Dude the stereotype thing was a joke, but your right they are around 3300lbs. I would say before the c5 was released f-bodys were a better car than the vette. No doubt the police package cars were amazing cars.

[Haulinbass]

BTW my company truck has an ls6 with the six speed auto, I love that power combo.

[fastredrider44]

Originally posted by Haulinbass
BTW my company truck has an ls6 with the six speed auto, I love that power combo.

What kinda company truck is that? lol

[400ex28]

Originally posted by Toadz400
Nova...I think you need to do a little more research. You're doing a lot of comparing of apples to oranges and you're making yourself look like a child, which might very well be the case.

GM's LS-based engines are amazing engines with unlimited potential. Just using GM's factory parts you can build a monster engine for relatively little money. Why is it that you're comparing a Cobra (which is an aftermarket modified Ford) to stock Camaro's and Corvette's?

TCracing440ex - Just drop it man, he's just succeeding at riling you up. Anyone with common sense can see all the fail in his arguments. No reason to let this thread go anymore downhill than it already has and be closed.

best post yet.

[Haulinbass]

Originally posted by fastredrider44
What kinda company truck is that? lol
08 GMC 2500 standard cab 4x4 Its what i use to deliver small stuff such as chains and boomers, small sections of pipe tire chains. sure beats the POS canyon they gave me before.

i also have a 5500 topkick with a 3 ton hiab picker and a 30 foot highboy for the larger stuff like 1000gallon fuel skids, loads of pipe, gen sets and light towers.

[Toadz400]

Originally posted by Haulinbass
08 GMC 2500 standard cab 4x4 Its what i use to deliver small stuff such as chains and boomers, small sections of pipe tire chains. sure beats the POS canyon they gave me before.

Who did the engine swap and why was the LS6 used?

[Haulinbass]

there oilfield trucks, they come from the factory like that. Chevy ford and dodge offer specially equipped trucks just for this market they are pretty much built nothing like what you buy off the showroom floor. the trucks have to go through the harshest envorments everyday allday, that truck makes $150/hr with a driver downtime really isnt wanted.
The only thing I wonder is why wasnt it built with the duramx, but all the non hauling units in this company are gas, anything that huals or is a crew truck is either a duramax or a powerstroke.

[Rich250RRacer]

This WAS a Pontiac thread, why don't all the idiots take the whining, pissing and moaning about Camaros, Corvettes and Mustangs to their own thread.

[Toadz400]

Originally posted by Haulinbass
there oilfield trucks, they come from the factory like that. Chevy ford and dodge offer specially equipped trucks just for this market they are pretty much built nothing like what you buy off the showroom floor. the trucks have to go through the harshest envorments everyday allday, that truck makes $150/hr with a driver downtime really isnt wanted.
The only thing I wonder is why wasnt it built with the duramx, but all the non hauling units in this company are gas, anything that huals or is a crew truck is either a duramax or a powerstroke.

It's just odd that they used an LS6. Doesn't make any sense for what the truck is used for. Are you sure it's not the 6.0L or 6.2L V8?

[muddy400EX]

heres how i look at it. the f-body always beat the mustang. the LT1 was better than the 5.0, the LS1 was better than the 4.6. ford did not make the mustang "better" until the f-body was put out of production. not that hard to beat a car thats not even made any more. i think the new maro's are gonna surprise you, and be on top again:blah:

[muddy400EX]

Originally posted by Rich250RRacer
This WAS a Pontiac thread, why don't all the idiots take the whining, pissing and moaning about Camaros, Corvettes and Mustangs to their own thread.

werd^ LONG LIVE THE BIRD!

[TCracin440ex]

Originally posted by Toadz400
It's just odd that they used an LS6. Doesn't make any sense for what the truck is used for. Are you sure it's not the 6.0L or 6.2L V8?

toad the new gm trucks come factory with a 6.2ltr motor, but by far different then the ls6 6.2 they are stuffing in camaros. i think its more based on the 6.0 2500 block not sure.

[Toadz400]

Originally posted by muddy400EX
heres how i look at it. the f-body always beat the mustang. the LT1 was better than the 5.0, the LS1 was better than the 4.6. ford did not make the mustang "better" until the f-body was put out of production. not that hard to beat a car thats not even made any more. i think the new maro's are gonna surprise you, and be on top again:blah:

Exactly. The supercharged SVT Cobra was not released until well after the F-body production ended.

TCracin440ex - The LS6 is a 5.7L, not a 6.2L, and wasn't used anymore past '05 or '06. The 6.2L is based on the 6.0 truck block. I just think Haulinbass is getting the engines confused. I'm guessing the truck has the 6.0L LY6 if it's a HD truck.

[TCracin440ex]

naw the code for the 6.0 truck is lq4. but i might have gotten confused on the ls6 too..i know exactly what motor your talking about now.

[Pipeless416]

Originally posted by TCracin440ex
naw the code for the 6.0 truck is lq4. but i might have gotten confused on the ls6 too..i know exactly what motor your talking about now.

i'm a ford guy.. but i love the 6.0.. and 8.1 :eek2: can't wait to go cruising in the WS6 again. my sister and brother in law also have an 06 grand prix GXP. that thing scoots.

[Haulinbass]

Next time im in the truck ill snag some pics of the sticker on the radiator shroud, I was quite sure its said ls6, but ive been wrong before. I know for a fact its not a vortech and the thing runs hard, running at 120/kph in sixth if you put it in manual mode and drop it to forth it will spin the tires when you get into the throttle.

car threads never stay on topic, guys love cars and when you start talking about one you have to talk about them all.

Originally posted by Haulinbass


car threads never stay on topic, guys love cars and when you start talking about one you have to talk about them all.

Ahaha, agreed. Sorry TC, you were pissin me off so we had a pretty lame pissing match. lol. All is good. :D

[Toadz400]

Originally posted by TCracin440ex
naw the code for the 6.0 truck is lq4. but i might have gotten confused on the ls6 too..i know exactly what motor your talking about now.

The LQ4 is the lower compression 6.0L Gen III and the LQ9 is the higher compression 6.0L Gen III. They aren't used in the newer trucks. The Gen IV 6.0 is the LY6.

Too bad Pontiac got the axe before it could get seriously involved with the revival of the muscle car.

This is THE FIRST time I had EVER seen an argument stop dead and all is cool in a thread. Thanks guys! Glad to see its back on track.

[muddy400EX]

Originally posted by Toadz400
The LQ4 is the lower compression 6.0L Gen III and the LQ9 is the higher compression 6.0L Gen III. They aren't used in the newer trucks. The Gen IV 6.0 is the LY6.

Too bad Pontiac got the axe before it could get seriously involved with the revival of the muscle car.

i know, would have loved to see the trans-am make a comeback:(

some random birds, in memory of pontiac:cool: http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm83/94Phoenix/570959_105_full.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm83/94Phoenix/Hurst11024.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm83/94Phoenix/IMG_4691copy.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm83/94Phoenix/l1.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm83/94Phoenix/untitled.jpg

[Sjorge450R]

Originally posted by muddy400EX
i know, would have loved to see the trans-am make a comeback:(

some random birds, in memory of pontiac:cool:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm83/94Phoenix/Hurst11024.jpg



:huh

please explain?

[fastredrider44]

Hate to get off topic again, but has anyone drove a GMC Denali with the 6.0? That thing is much quicker than any 6.0 in a truck.

Back on track, what motors were used in the G8 or GT8, whatever they are? I like the looks of them. But yes, it is sad to see a great car company have to fold just cause this crappy economy and whatever other factors you might like to include.

[muddy400EX]

Originally posted by Sjorge300EX
:huh

please explain?

haha i really dont know. some project this dude did on an fbody forum. why i dont know:ermm:

[Toadz400]

Originally posted by fastredrider44
Hate to get off topic again, but has anyone drove a GMC Denali with the 6.0? That thing is much quicker than any 6.0 in a truck.

Back on track, what motors were used in the G8 or GT8, whatever they are? I like the looks of them. But yes, it is sad to see a great car company have to fold just cause this crappy economy and whatever other factors you might like to include.

The 6.0 in the Denali was the LQ9, which had higher compression for more HP/TQ. Most of the 6.0's that came in the trucks (Besides the VMax) were the LQ4's.

The G8 used the LS3 6.2L V8. 430HP/424TQ.

I don't think that Pontiac station wagon looks half bad.:ermm:

[Haulinbass]

slap two extra doors on the wagiac and it could have been competition for the magnum. i think the sharp roofline with the roundness of the rear fender actuall look quite good together.

[fastredrider44]

Originally posted by Toadz400


The G8 used the LS3 6.2L V8. 430HP/424TQ.



What motor was in the new GTO's? I can't keep all these L whatever motors straight. It used to be easy... 283,302,305,327,350, etc. lol

[jesseweaver]

Originally posted by fastredrider44
What motor was in the new GTO's? I can't keep all these L whatever motors straight. It used to be easy... 283,302,305,327,350, etc. lol

LS1s in 2004

LS2s in 2005 and 2006

LS1 is the 5.7
LS2 is the 6.0


wow i'm pissed i missed this thread. i didn't bother reading everything, who won the LS1-Cobra arguement?

How you can say an LS1 car is better than an 03 04 cobra is way beyond me. and how some people can be so sure that their favorite car is better while knowing next to nothing about the other car. :confused:

[Toadz400]

Originally posted by Haulinbass
slap two extra doors on the wagiac and it could have been competition for the magnum. i think the sharp roofline with the roundness of the rear fender actuall look quite good together.

That's what my thoughts were. Not my cup of tea, but as far as sport wagons go it'd be pretty sweet.

Nobody won the argument because it was just plain stupid to compare two completely different powerplants (FI vs NA) and the F-body wasn't even in production when the Cobra became supercharged.