Looking for opinions on laegers framed hybrid

[KEVIN300A]

Well I am looking to trade off my 450r for a hybrid I have an interesting trade offer for a hybrid. He says its an 01 laegers frame for a crf450r and its the motor and frame.... I am wondering what this is worth roughly and if anyone has any information on this quad or setup??? ANY INFORMATION is appreciated.... thanks in advance

[KEVIN300A]

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[800screws]

do it...i had a 250r full laeger narrow front...thing was awesome....flew great, turned real sharp....

[step869]

he started to part it out i know that for a fact i lost bid on plastics in the last 10 secs
they sold for like 140 bucks

just make sure frame is ok i read about dents and what not on bottom of that frame

i did just buy a stock 250r frame from that seller which is in great shape

[KEVIN300A]

He did start to part it out.. i will need rear brake assembly, carb, front shocks, radiator, carrier and chain and sprockets, wheels and tires to put it together... here is a pic of the dent will this effect the quad and what else should I look for?? whats this quad worth missing the parts I listed above rough estimate??

[Flyin_250r]

That quad was for sale on here not too long ago. He was asking $5k for it complete. Heres a link to the original seller. No idea if its him parting it out or not.

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=412250

Definately looks like a nice ride. Also read the subframe was repaired twice previously.

[KEVIN300A]

thanks and its someone dif. parting it out. he buys quads and parts them on ebay... seems like a decent quad tho

[fandl450r]

Laeger made great frames, but to my knowledge I thought there were very few of these left. Just ensure that it's indeed a true Laeger frame, I believe it has a VIN plate on the front. Also check to see if it's a true CRF frame or converted from a 250R.

[protrax]

that bike sold for $4500 complete , its a converted yz426 frame , you will need the swingarm to make the frame worth anything

[mcarlson1]

Looking at the front motor mounts it seems to be a conversion, the true CRFs have round tubing connecting each side and short aluminum mounts. Id go for it the bike looks to be pretty decent!Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Mike

[KEVIN300A]

Does anyone know?? will any 250r style swinger work on this chassis with the crf450 motor?

[jesse olea]

no you need a cr500 link swingarm thier are companys that will still make you one jb, walsh, prp, etc. good luck

[C41Xracer]

Originally posted by KEVIN300A
Does anyone know?? will any 250r style swinger work on this chassis with the crf450 motor?

the only way a 250r swingarm will work is if the tube is cut to fit around the motor

[madskrillz2]

Originally posted by mcarlson1
Looking at the front motor mounts it seems to be a conversion, the true CRFs have round tubing connecting each side and short aluminum mounts. Id go for it the bike looks to be pretty decent!Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Mike

Yeah definitely looks like a conversion

[Jonny B]

There are only a few true crf's that mark laeger had built...I think like 5 or 6. They were complete bikes built for pro riders to race. They would bring a lot more money if one came up for sale. Sometime in 2003, mark sold the frame jigs to ct racing who built the rest of them. The true crf's were normal 250r goemetry front and cr500 rear link.
That frame is a yz hybrid chassis built by laeger and then converted...I can tell because the motor mounts, the rear master cylinder, right rear subframe mount and also it is a narrow front. You will need to fab a swinger to run this with the crf motor because the crf swingers are not common to find.
Most aftermarket chassis have damage or been repaired, not because they were crap but because they were used in competition. Repairs are common and that frame could most likely be fixed. If it rides straight then I would ride it how it is.
If you have the funds and know what you are getting into ($$$ wise) then jump on it. I personally love the laeger narrow frame and cr500 rear, nothings rides like it but it cost a lot of $$$ to build these properly... Just my 2 cents.

[KEVIN300A]

I appreciate all the help... I think I will be getting in over my head so i am probably just going to pass on the deal and fix my 450r... thanks again for the help

[KEVIN300A]

Some people say the swingarm will work, its an 88 style swingarm with link and shock, will this or will this not bolt to this frame with no problems?? thanks again

[quadpornstar]

That quad is my old bike. I built it orginally. Its a Laegers frame, but not a true CRF. The quad was a true 2001 Laegers yz426 quad when I got it. I converted it to a CRF. Its a narrow front frame, the motor is a 2005. You will also find a couple of gussets that were not orginally welded in by Laegers. The motor i put in the quad was a brand new crate motor, bought directly from Honda. The quad uses a YZ426 rear swinger, with a Honda CR500 link. The 250r swinger will not work. The YZ and CRF frames had the rear shock offset to the right in the frame about 1" or so. The CRF and YZ swingers are very similar. I have only had one YZ framed quad, and its been a long time, I cannot remember what the differences are.

As far as I know, Laegers never built a CRF narrow front quad. I have never seen an orginal built that way. The only ones I have seen are the YZ quads that have been modified. As far as the hybrids go, the Laeger quads are considered to be some of the best. The Laegers are very durable, and the quads handle extremely well once you get them dialed in.

The dent in the bottom of the quad is not the end of the world. Could probably be fixed. May not matter that much. All of the Laeger hybrid frames that I have seen, have some of the tubing in the frame crushed in certain spots to make the motor fit. The CRF and YZ frames had the majority of the crushed tubing in the bottom motor cradle of the frame. Let me know if i can help out anyway else. I have owned a couple of these quads, and a few friends have them too

[KEVIN300A]

when you say yz426 rear swinger who makes them and where could I find one?? I appreciate all of the information... the guy who is selling it really doesn't know that much... what would I have to do to convert it back to yz426 motor?? just the motor mounts?? thanks again man

[rollie]

Here are 3 of the 7 true laeger CRF Hybrids. don't know where the other 4 are.

http://i45.tinypic.com/j0a54k.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2wmgqpz.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2nkkwv9.jpg

[tg413]

Well apparently i have the swingarm, shock, linkage & carrier for that frame sitting in my shop..... I bought these assuming they were for a 250r.I was asked a couple questions about them when i put them up for sale yesterday that got me thinking, after doing some research i have the complete rear for this quad......This guy is pissing me off........
I have seen the frame for this setup and it is nice, it could be a sick machine again..Personally i wouldn't have taken it apart in the first place.....This dude is def trying my patience......Here's the pic of the whole rear..:huh


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/tg413/peplaegercrlinkrear001.jpg

[KEVIN300A]

O this is from this frame and motor exactly?? this guy is kind of an idiot to deal with and changes his prices constantly!!! How much for the complete rear?? thanks

[tg413]

Oh yeah definitely from that quad.Sold it to me as a 250r rear , from a laegers 250r w/ crf motor.....I have been to the guys house to get my parts, i have seen that frame in person, he also still has the T-pin front that was on it...I was looking to get $800 shipped for the complete rear, i paid him $800 for it and spent $40 in gas going to get them.......Swingarm looks brand new , RPm millenium Bearing carrier /just packed yesterday , Pep Big Bottle zps, cr linkage and new Pivot works kit ......Or i am going back to his house tomorrow and get my $$ from him..That chassis and swingarm setup should not be separated, they were built for each other........

[KEVIN300A]

HE IS A DUMB*SS!! yea I am not interested in buying it from you, the way he is parting that quad is rediculous and be so expensive to put back together.... thanks and goodluck

[quadpornstar]

The yz426 swinger was built by Laegers. I think they are still building them, but it would take some lead time to get one. Walsh builds them also. I agree that the frame and swinger should not be seperated. Its nice to keep the whole thing together, especially when someone is trying to sell the quad as a part or whole bike

[tg413]

Originally posted by KEVIN300A
HE IS A DUMB*SS!! yea I am not interested in buying it from you, the way he is parting that quad is rediculous and be so expensive to put back together.... thanks and goodluck
Totally understand ....
From my perspective i bought a laeger swingarm new before and it was close to a grand, the Pep big bottle rear shock is also $$, then the rpm bearing carrier ect.Plus the whole deal is a CR link setup to me it was a great deal....IF it was for my machine :rolleyes: ..I can def see how putting the quad back together is going to be expensive but building those hybrid's usually are, imagine the guy who bought everything new :eek2: Anyhow after today the guy will have this rear clip back in his possession so maybe he will give you a good deal on the whole chassis?Take care

[tg413]

Rear end returned to sender....

[250Renvy]

If you bought it on ebay, be sure to leave him negative feedback or follow up on it - make sure people know he is joke. He also uses a lot of schill bidding to up his prices without reserves.


Kevin300A - since you were looking at trading for this hybrid and it is now apart are you still looking for one or are you planning on building one?

[KEVIN300A]

if one comes up at the right price I will buy one complete.. not looking to spend an arm and a leg... I sold the 450r so deciding what to do!!! never happy always changing my mind... what you got??

[tg413]

I might be able to get you the whole chassis , frame , wiring , exhaust, swinger shock, lnk , carrier ect for around $1500 according to the number he told me when i told him about his quad and that the rear was useless without the frame and vise versa......He did not know what that machine was at all...He did give back my money without too much hassle, he did try to talk me into the chassis ect but i opted out.....

[quadpornstar]

$1500 is a smoking deal for all that Laeger stuff. You could easily fix that up, and build a super nice hybrid

[liex21]

tg413 clear your inbox if you dont get my pm let me know thanks