05 450R Restoration

[staakej]

well Ive all ways wanted to post a build so here it is got a 05 the other day pretty rough so it should be a pretty good build to post. I'm not goin crazy just building a nice practice bike.

[staakej]

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[staakej]

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[staakej]

Not sure what this is all about but I dont think it will be going back on any have a slip on ?

[atvnut22]

i dont see how people can do that... buy me a nice set of elkas, and some hipers, nice bars, and tires, thentake their last beer can and jb weld it to the header????

i hope you can get this bike looking nice again

[73watermutt]

Looks like a solid bike to build on. I always like reading these build threads.

[staakej]

The worst part was it didnt even fit on the header witch gave it a bad exhaust leak prob lost more HP than he gained

so whats the plans for it? atleast its got some nice parts on it.. how much did you pay for it?

[staakej]

well i'm not 100% for sure untill I crack the motor open I think it's been poorly maintained as far as the chassie I want to get some Plus two a arms gt thunder link bike already has a new LSR axle gona PC everything of course . Need to get a gusset kit. For the body I would like some nice red bodywork and some graphics not sure what kind yet

[staakej]

Think I'm gona go with some old school Silver vein PC for frame a arms swing arm and stem

[smw450r]

yea i love that color also that's what i went with also

i would like to buy the hood if you change it. pm me if you do thanks

[staakej]

well got some of the tear down started today. I got a work out I think every bolt was put on with a 3 foot breaker bar. I also found some bolts I though where missing where actually broke off. So looks likeI will be giving a demo on using some easy outs to remove bolts.

[staakej]

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[staakej]

One of the bolts is stuck the the tank the brass insert is spinning I'm not really sure how to fix this and I rather not buy a new tank. I'm open for suggestions.

[wykyd450R]

If possible, put a socket into a drill using an extension, or an air ratchet and spin the bolt/insert real fast. It will heat up the plastic enough to pull the bolt/insert out of the tank. Then put the insert into a vice or vice grips while removing the bolt with a wrench/ratchet. Once apart, you can get some epoxy or jb weld, and put a dab into the hole in the tank where the insert came out, and reinstall the insert. Let it set up, and you should be good to go. I usually pull those bolts, and apply a lil oil to the threads of the bolt so removal is easier later.

[staakej]

I'll give it a try thanks I was thinkin of Jb welding something in there but I couldnt figure out how to get it out with out damaging the tank.

[wykyd450R]

No problem.... This method has worked for many people. ;)

[HoleshotR15]

On my 05 I let it soak with PB buster for about 2 hrs then stuck a razorblaze and a small flathead on the side of the brass insert it wedged it just enough to break the bolt loose. Good luck.
BTW; the KTM looks sick!

[staakej]

Thanks Ive allways been a hardcore honda man but I must say the ktm is very well put together bike.

[liljhall09]

as soon as everything is powdercoated and cleaned up itll look good

[staakej]

Well finished the tear down today. Man the parts really pile up. I'm ready to start cleaning and puttin on some PC

[staakej]

I noticed that the rear end had some slop in it when you picked it up by the grab bar. I found out why today. some removed the bushing out of the bearings so the bolts where just floating around. Some people should not be allowed to own tools

[staakej]

well non adjustment elka's wouldnt have been my frist choice but that's ok but I was really upset when I realized all the cross overs where removed. Why would you think that would be a good Idea dont you think elka put then on there for a reason.

[staakej]

And the motor inspection begins

[spanky101]

Good luck man, looks like your gonna need it! hopefully everything works out, really like that ktm tho :blah:

[staakej]

Not a good sign Metal Flakes :(

[staakej]

I'm gona go ahead and get a new timing chain I think!

[staakej]

Now I wana cry :(

[staakej]

:(

[staakej]

well now I dont know what to do I wasnt really wanting to build a motor but it looks like I dont have a choice now. But I dont really want to spend a lot. What would you do. I was think maybe a stock crank and a 480 cylinder. Or would you go stroker crank and stock cylinder or just go all stock with a hi comp pisoton. :confused:

[SmthHonRider99]

hi comp. piston and hrc cam is what id go if you don't wanna spend much.

[staakej]

well that was the plan but I need a cylinder and a crank now so while I'm spending do I go ahead and buy a big bore. I can get a cylinder works 480 kit for about the same amount as stock parts

[Butter]

Man, that old saying "Get what you paid for" really comes in here. You paid $2500 I believe I seen on here? Alot of good componentry, but not much else. Really horrible to see how abused some of these 450s truely are. Sorry for your findings.

If I were you, definitely go with a low compression big bore. Totally different type of power, and would be alot of fun trying it out on a practice bike.

[staakej]

yes it was a gamable and i got burned this time.I dont quite have 2500 in the bike. but the way I look at it I can get this bike running and looking good for about 1500 bucks ball park and have a new motor fresh shocks there's a lot of 4 grand 450R's out there I'll just be out my time making this one look that nice

[quadracer118]

i have a set of plus 2 lt herrmann a- arms for sale if your interested let me know

[Sjorge450R]

when I saw the pictures of the shocks and linkage I was going to warn you about the motor...until you told us. I am truly sorry that this what you ended up with without knowing. Personally. For a practice bike. I would say put a stock crank and 12.5:1 stock bore CP piston in there.

[hondaracer_34]

Sorry to see the motor and other parts like that, that really sucks. Some people shouldnt even be allowed to own quads.

The pic of Elkas you posted, what do you mean by "cross overs?" Ive never heard of that.

They are pieces of plastic that are put inbetween the main spring and the preload spring. in his case they are not their.

They look like this.

[staakej]

well like I said sometimes buyin stuff from a picture on the internet is a gamble this time it wasnt a great deal but I still feel I can get this quad fixed up with out having way more in it than it will be worth. Plus I enjoy building quads almost as much as I do riding them

[quadracer118]

pmed

[hondaracer_34]

Ah i see. Thanks

[fastredrider44]

I think you did alright. You will have a good time building it up, and makin it slick. I would avoid a stroker crank on something like this. I'd just get a used stock cylinder and bump compression up a little and HRC cam. Unless you are racing, I wouldn't go after a bigger bore. Good luck

[staakej]

Order my powder today changed my mind going to go with a red frame and subframe a arms swing in black

[staakej]

this colar is a Mandarin Orange looks pretty close to a honda red to me I'm tryin to find a lighter shade of red i'm hoping this is what i'm looking for

[staakej]

Order a bare gusset kit a few days ago should be here any day now and we can get this build started. I cant wait !!!!

Still undecided on how i'm gona build the motor. But i'm gona start building the chassie frist anyways.

[spanky101]

Sounds like it's gonna be a nice looking bike. You staying with the elkas? But my personal opinion on the motor is stock bore and stroke. Bump up the compression a bit and a cam. If it still isn't to what you want you can always get a decent port pretty cheap

[staakej]

no I really dont want the elka's. Not that I dont care for elka's I would just rather have some stock shocks with comp. and rebound adjustment. A Lt setup would be nice but I'm tryin to build a budget practice bike if one pops up for the right price I'll change it over

[staakej]

l know it's a long way off but I'm looking at graphics I'm liking these

[staakej]

Gusset's came now i cant get started I hope to have the frame PC'd by the end of the week

[staakej]

Getting the frame ready for welding I'll hafta got out to the shop on the farm to use the tig welder but I hope to get some pics of welding the frame

[staakej]

Here is my next problem cant get this broken bolt out. I dont think its a factory bolt because super hard my drill bits wont touch it. It allmost looks like they broke the bolt off and just tried welding the nerf bar to the frame. I have some harder drill bits at the farm I hope I can get it out. If I mess the threads up I think I'm gona take a factory bolt and cut the head off and weld it in the frame as a stud and the I'll just fasten the nerf bar on with a nut. I'm open for suggestions.

[atvnut22]

if it does mess up the threads, just drill it and re-tap it, and use a new bolt. if you dont have taps, you may be able to borrow one from your local machine shop, or where you get your frame powdercoated should have some. and if you dont have any, i would suggest getting a set for when you get your frame powdercoated. makes it alot easier to get a bolt through, when you clean the residue out of the threads.

[patrickj75]

You should just pro-peg the frame.

Originally posted by patrickj75
You should just pro-peg the frame.

X2

[staakej]

that is a good idea but I like to keep where I can put it back to stock if I want to.

[gncc450r]

sent you a pm

[staakej]

Found some alba +2 arms from a fellow atvrider member 160 minus tie rods. Found some +2 tie rods on ebay for 40 buck shipped so I got a set of a arms for 200 bucks. Powder dosnt look to bad but I think I'm gona go ahead and recoat them since all the other parts with have fresh PC on them

[staakej]

all most got the frame done but I ran out of gas :( But I'll some pics soon. Dropped my shocks off yesterday gona get some new seal head's and change the valving with a dual rate spring setup and gona get the rear valved for a gt thunder link the rear spring may be a little heavy for me but I dont think i'm gona change it right now I still need to get the shocks done on the ktm so i'm not gona spend a lot of dough on the bike

i would go ahead and greese those bushings in those a arms. when i got my alba ones. i rode it two rides and the bushings started squeeking. i had to press them out with 2 sockets and a vice clamp. just wanted to let ya know.

[staakej]

yeah I noticed they came out really hard I have some new bushings I'm gona see if that dosnt help I might try sanding the plastic bushings a little bit so they fit a little better. But thanks for the head's up

[staakej]

:( I'm like 2 welds away from getting my frame done but my local welding supply store took a 4 day weekend for thanksgiving so I wont get to fill my bottle till monday :(

yea i pressed mine out. sanded the metal sleve and put alot of greese on them and now there fine. haha

[Redrider99]

any updates?

[staakej]

Not yet work keeps getting in the way of my build As soon as I can get a free day to get my bottle filled I can finish welding the frame and get some pc on I'll have some pics up soon

[staakej]

Got the frame done today gona take it to get sand blasted tomorrow and them I'll get to show every one my home made powder coating oven

[staakej]

bare kits all ways fit nice I welded there kits on a few different models now and for the money you cant beat them

[born2ride14]

OOOO i cant wait to see the oven. Youll have to learn us on how you put it togethor. I have been wanting to build a oven that i can fit my frame in .

[sameltoe]

lookin goooood!!!

[Redrider99]

finally!! ive been waiting hahaha

[born2ride14]

MAN THOS ARE SOME NCE WELDS! Did you mig it or tig it?

[born2ride14]

MAN THOS ARE SOME NCE WELDS! Did you mig it or tig it?

[rap169]

those are def tig. nice job. id like to see the oven also. been thinking about building one for years now, just unsure how big o should go.

[staakej]

Ive all ways used simple green and what ever else I though would work to clean engine case with ok results but I seen on Smw450R thread he had used some etching spray so I though I would give it a try after some searching I found some at O rielly's Hand's down best stuff for cleanin a motor period. I just sprayed it on and scrubed it with a small wire brush and it cam clean with little offort

[staakej]

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[staakej]

all tig welded I dont like mig welding on frames to easy to burn through

[staakej]

had some gaskets left over from other jobs and I got a good used oem crank so I started putting my bottom end together still havnt got a top end yet maybe santa will bring one for christmas

[staakej]

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[staakej]

all most looks like a new motor cant wait to get the rest of the parts I'm pretty sure I'm gona go with a cylinder works 480 kit and stage 3 hotcam. never had a big bore so I'm gona give it a try

[smw450r]

looking good man i gotta get back on mine this weekend the only bad thing is im gonna be leaving for baghdad for a year soon for a contractor for the goverment as a mecanic so i wont even get to enjoy it but when i get back i'll have enough money in the bank to do whatever else i want to do to it but im gonna try and have it finished and pics posted after this weekend

[staakej]

Originally posted by smw450r
looking good man i gotta get back on mine this weekend the only bad thing is im gonna be leaving for baghdad for a year soon for a contractor for the goverment as a mecanic so i wont even get to enjoy it but when i get back i'll have enough money in the bank to do whatever else i want to do to it but im gonna try and have it finished and pics posted after this weekend

kewl man cant wait to see it

[staakej]

Got the bottom end together besides putting some Pc on a few covers Started working on the head today looks pretty good some wear on the intake valves I think I'll replace them Just need a cam and a cylinder kit now

[staakej]

cylinder head before pics

[staakej]

this was a real pain in the arse after repeated attempts to get some vice grips on it I ended up heating it up with my propane tourch and clamping it in the vice and finally got it to spin out chased the treads and put some new ones in

[staakej]

head after

[staakej]

This motor is cleaning up way better than i expected can wait to get it the finished and sitting in the frame

[06 Honda 450R]

i think your missing somethin.... lol:D

[300racer]

i bet the compression is horrible on that thing lol

[sameltoe]

Air cooled...

[staakej]

I saved a bunch of weight not putting a cylinder piston or cam in :p dont go tellin every one my HP secrets

[staakej]

got my parts back today from the sandblaster "let the games begin"

[staakej]

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[staakej]

here it is Its nothin to brag about But it works pretty good just got a atv crate from a local dealer. got some 18 ga. steel and built 3x3.5x4 box and then added a couple of heating elements out of and old oven. I need to get it wrapped in some insulation the only down fall it it seems to take a lot longer to to get my parts up to curing temp. but it works pretty good for just somthing I threw together and put in my garden shed.

[staakej]

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[staakej]

spindles done I would really like to do the calipers but I dont really want all the trouble of takin them apart

[staakej]

this ones fuzzy I'll have some more parts and better pic tomorrow i'm gona try to get my frame done tomorrow

[One_Bad_400]

nice oven! i just have a house cooking oven as mine :D need to build a nice one like that, i've got about 20 cubic inches to work with, so only small parts for me, no frames!

[Mustangous]

Awesome build! good work! cant wait to see more!

[300racer]

how long does it take for you oven to get to curing temp? and where do you buy you pc at? my parents are throwing there old oven away and i might have to try this. cool build. can't wait to see the end.

[One_Bad_400]

a household oven will get to curing temp in just a few minutes. most standard temps are 450*F. different powders take different temps and different time lenghts inside the oven. you can order powder over the internet.

[staakej]

I buy my powder from roseyspowdercoating.com

I usually cook a frame for about an 1 and 1/2 to 2 hours it's a little over kill but I want to make sure I get it good and hot to cure the powder I use one of those infrared thermometer to check and see what temp im at.

[One_Bad_400]

i may be wrong on that temp. i havent put a pie in the oven in a few months, i've got it writen on my oven. cant remember though


here is the gun i have, nothing special at all, but it gets the job done

http://dealspl.us/craftsman_powder_coat_system_model_17288_at_sears_ com_102273

[staakej]

I have a craftsman gun to I also have a harbor freight pneumatic gun to but it dosnt seem to work as well but it holds a lot more powder than the craftsman gun which is nice for doing a frame. My oven will reach 450 in a few mins to but I was told that the actual metal had to reach the desired curing temp. but I was also told the amount of time can determine the temp 450 for 10 mins or 400 for 20 mins or 350 for 30 mins so on and so forth. This is what I was told but a guy I know that did some powder coating where he worked I dont know if this is correct information but it has seemed to work for me but like I said I cook my powder a little longer just to be sure I have it cured.

[300racer]

ok i have a couple of dumb questions also about this lol.

about how many lbs to you need to order to do quad?

and what does all this mean 120% Gloss 1 Lb

also do you just use a regular spray gun or something with a diff tip?

[staakej]

ok frist you have to have a powder coating gun nothing like a spray gun totally different the powder comes in a "1lb" one pound bag I'm not sure how they determine what 120% gloss is but the higher the number the shiner your finish

[staakej]

Frame done now it feel like I'm getting some thing done.

[staakej]

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[staakej]

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[staakej]

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[ATVMX33]

that looks great man!!!:cool:

[One_Bad_400]

do you put any sort of clear coat over your finished product. my finished product looks nice and is strong but some chiemicals get to it. just wondering if you put a clear coat over it?

[300racer]

looking good. how many lbs did it take to do that frame?

[Vade]

Originally posted by staakej
Frame done now it feel like I'm getting some thing done.

What kind of handle bar clamps are those?

[Mustangous]

man your are moving alone nicley!
looks good!

[Mustangous]

man your are moving alone nicley!
looks good!

What powder coating gun system do you have?

[staakej]

I used a harbor freight gun for the frame it dose ok for the smaller parts I have a craftsman airless gun the dose nice job but its a pain to use for a frame because it dosnt hold much powder. I think those clampe are rockey mountain but i'm not for sure there where on the bike when I got it

[Balaz_73*00]

You work fast man!! I like your style haha looking good!

[Redrider99]

wow it is looking good! now I wanna go out and work on my 450 but its too dam cold!!!

[One_Bad_400]

Originally posted by staakej
My oven will reach 450 in a few mins to but I was told that the actual metal had to reach the desired curing temp.

the way i was told is once you stick it in the oven, wait untill the powder glosses over, and then start your time. and on smaller parts like the ones i can fit in my oven usually take 7-10 minutes to gloss over, then i start a 20 minute timer.

frame looks good btw

[staakej]

Thanks guys I'll have more pics up soon

[quadracer118]

you have a pm

[staakej]

got some more work done today started the assembly got parts for the motor coming so I hope to have the motor in this frame real soon

[staakej]

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[staakej]

man that gloss black really shines

[staakej]

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[250x_kyle]

looken good. nice tig welds. did you get any air bubles when you ran out of gas or did you catch it before that happened? diggen the ktm as well.

[73watermutt]

man that is looking sweet!

[staakej]

found some number plates I like man I cant wait to get this thing together

[racer 557]

ha wow my chassis is red were yours is black and black where yours is red haha besides steering column

[siggy konowaluk]

looks amazing cant wait to see it all done!

[ricksmx865]

looks awesome! i need to make an oven like that as well.

that ktm looks real rowdy too :macho

[staakej]

got my cylinder and piston today and new intake valves should have my cam by the end of the week I might go a ahead and stick the motor in the frame tomorrow and and start getting stuff hooked up I need an air box if anybody has a cheap one also would like a hrc needle I took the carb apart still had a stock main jet so I'm sure the needle still stock 2

[staakej]

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[staakej]

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[staakej]

almost got the motor done just waiting on the cam expect to see pics of it in the frame real soon

[Latemodel32]

looking really nice :)

[Baileygunns]

So I may have missed it, but how did you end up getting the foot peg bolt out? I'm in the same boat except my boat has a broken easy out in it too...

[extremetrucker]

Originally posted by Baileygunns
So I may have missed it, but how did you end up getting the foot peg bolt out? I'm in the same boat except my boat has a broken easy out in it too...
depending on the size of your ezout you may be able the sharpen a center punch really sharp and shatter it and try the next size, these always broke in my 400ex too. and thats one of the only ways i have found to get a broken ez out or broken taps out. try some heat too. but just try to direct the head to the "lug" that the bolt is in, not the tubing around it, dont be shy with it either, heat wont hurt this area, just try not to get the tubing red past the welds. make sure you chase the threads when your done, and use a dab of nevrsieze on the threads and use lock washers, instead of loctite.

by the way, this thing is lookin great! i love seeing something that someone neglected get reincarnated for a second chance. keep up the good work!

[staakej]

well I did get it drilled out but when I was trying to turn it out I broke the easy out so I just said the hell with it and blew it out with the torch cut the head off a factory bolt and welded it in as a stud

[staakej]

got the a arms on today

[Baileygunns]

That works...

I think I'm just going to weld the Pro Armor mount I have to the frame and be done with it... I'll be able to slide the foot peg and nerfbar on and off as long as it doesn't get to bent... I don't ever plan on going back to stock so I'm not to worried about that.

Thank you for responding.

Ed

[staakej]

mounted my tires on the hipers the other day I had some nice dunlop quadmax tires that came with the ktm I changed out the the faded red rings for some black ones I think its really gona set this bike off

[staakej]

Man I cant get and exhaust system for nothing. First I found a baldwin full system on ebay for 150 paid for it and ended up getting my money refunded. Then I found a really nice motoworks on here for 175 so i sent money then the guy changed his mind and refunded me. I dont really care if I get a full system or a slip on but but I want a nice exhaust not something all rusted or bashed up if any one know wear one is let me know I would perfer a motoworks with the red and black graphic on the can. but I'm not picky if the price is right

[coryatver]

wow that bike is 100% better than before

[Redrider99]

dam that thing is looking sharp!! Thanks god christmas is this week santa will have all my new goodies ;) Did you end up getting that bolt out of the tank cause I have 2 stuck in my tank like that

[quadracer118]

i fixed my tank that the bolt was stuck in i got an attachment for my drill spun it till it was hot and then it came out then put jb weld in where the stud goes then put the stud in and let it set

[staakej]

I did the same thing worked really well

[Redrider99]

when you say attachment are you just talking about a bigger socket?

[staakej]

I dont know what he's talking about I just used my impact

[quadracer118]

i didint say anything about a bigger socket its like a socket set but for a normal drill not impact

[Redrider99]

ohh ok. I think I have a socket set for my impact or drill not sure.thanks for the help

[staakej]

got all the parts for my swing arm today and got it all done

[staakej]

here it is the moment we all been waiting for it's getting really close now

[staakej]

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[Redrider99]

dam!!! that looks sick with pc on the engine. and Iam the first to respond to it haha

[Redrider99]

and how many builds do you have going on??

id look at a pro circuit T4 slip on there only 189.99$ new. i love mine got it used for 50 bucks. great sounding pipe there customer service is top notch very nice people. it sounds very similar to my brothers sparks big core.

[staakej]

Originally posted by Redrider99
and how many builds do you have going on??

to many to count but this is might be my new favorite.

This 400 was my favorite never should have sold it

[Redrider99]

dam thats nice. and it looks like theres 4 bikes being built in your garage haha

[staakej]

my last race bike

[Redrider99]

wow that race bike is nice. you take alot of pride in your quads. looks almsot like a full time job for you. and I can see now why you build your own power coating over.....YOU DO SO MANY QUADS!! haha

[staakej]

another race bike

[staakej]

Originally posted by Redrider99
wow that race bike is nice. you take alot of pride in your quads. looks almsot like a full time job for you

Thanks Ive allways been a "do it yourself" kinda guy and yeah I take a lot of pride in my bikes it nice when everone checking out your bike and you did almost everything your self

This one was an eye catcher thats about all I can say

[Redrider99]

wow youve done alot of builds haha. so do you go to work just to make money to build more quads? haha

[staakej]

well I'm allways selling one to build another and I have a good time doing it I'm all was hunting for the blown up wore out brokin down stuff "like this 05 450R"

[staakej]

Originally posted by Redrider99
dam thats nice. and it looks like theres 4 bikes being built in your garage haha

well not all those builds in the garage right now are mine I'm do a 300 for a guy and a trx90 for a buddy

[Redrider99]

Originally posted by staakej
well not all those builds in the garage right now are mine I'm do a 300 for a guy and a trx90 for a buddy

wow those friends must love you haha

[racer 557]

Originally posted by staakej
my last race bike

is your tank cut some what ???

[staakej]

Originally posted by racer 557
is your tank cut some what ???

no stock tank

[Lquad71]

Originally posted by 300racer
ok i have a couple of dumb questions also about this lol.

about how many lbs to you need to order to do quad?

and what does all this mean 120% Gloss 1 Lb

also do you just use a regular spray gun or something with a diff tip?


Like he said before about lbs
just about how much can you cover with 1 lb of powder. i have no idea....a whole swingarm, a couple small brackets, entire frame?? any input helps thanks

Originally posted by staakej
to many to count but this is might be my new favorite.

This 400 was my favorite never should have sold it

This saddens me lol Seriously it makes me want to keep my 400ex. It was so much fun to ride.

[born2ride14]

1 lb should be able to do a frame and some small parts

[racer 557]

Originally posted by staakej
no stock tank

the bike with the red swinger?? it like has a C shape to it and the other tanks dont......

[Z-135]

Originally posted by staakej
Man I cant get and exhaust system for nothing. First I found a baldwin full system on ebay for 150 paid for it and ended up getting my money refunded. Then I found a really nice motoworks on here for 175 so i sent money then the guy changed his mind and refunded me. I dont really care if I get a full system or a slip on but but I want a nice exhaust not something all rusted or bashed up if any one know wear one is let me know I would perfer a motoworks with the red and black graphic on the can. but I'm not picky if the price is right

******** had a New FMF slip on pipe for a 150.

Great job on your rebuild!

[staakej]

hey guys been busy havnt got that much done but I have found some more parts got a hmf slip on and an air box hrc jet kit I think all i have left is is some body work and some graphics and number plates but i cant decided on red or black plastic

[staakej]

I think i'm gona go ahead and pc the can black and prob some high temp flat black powder for header

[staakej]

here's the frame not much has changed got the wiring harness in thats about it really

[staakej]

what do you guys think red or black plastic I cant decide

[atvnut22]

Originally posted by staakej
what do you guys think red or black plastic I cant decide
black, because i dont know if the reds (frame and plastics) would match. in the pics, the frame almost has a orange-ish tent

[One_Bad_400]

if the red colors are close, i would go with red, black looks good, after a few hours of riding and flipping, it looks like crap.

[staakej]

I think your right I dont think red plastic would match the frame perfect I think this 450 is pretty close to my color schem

[atvnut22]

i think white wold also look really good

[Baileygunns]

White with those graphics would look cool... It would tie the frame subframe and the body work togeather.

[staakej]

powder coated the sprocket hub and sprocket black never done it before thought it looked cool

[staakej]

Got one more hub to put on trying the get the wheels on it so I can measure my extended and compressed length. So I can get my shocks done

[staakej]

I think you guys are right white is the way to go I need somthing to break up the black and red

[born2ride14]

white holds up GREAT too. if you happen to get any stains in it, just whip out your magic eraser!

[Redrider99]

wow the bike is looking great! and the shop is looking way to clean haha. I hope your shops heated since your in IL

[siggy konowaluk]

looks so good cant wait to see it all done
and the white will looks really good i think

[staakej]

Originally posted by Redrider99
wow the bike is looking great! and the shop is looking way to clean haha. I hope your shops heated since your in IL

Ive got a little heater I can get it warm enough to make it bearable. If you keep the shop clean thats less time in the cold looking for parts and tools haha

[Redrider99]

Originally posted by staakej
Ive got a little heater I can get it warm enough to make it bearable. If you keep the shop clean thats less time in the cold looking for parts and tools haha

Hahaha good point. and my little heater wasnt doing it for me. so I set up temporary shop in my household garage. Which is nice while working on the quad but not so nice in the morning walking outside in the morning to my freezing cold car haha

[staakej]

Phil from e-sticky sent a pic of the graphics This thing is gona look sweet with some white body work

[staakej]

Phil from e-sticky sent a pic of the graphics except I wont have all those sponser decals This thing is gona look sweet with some white body work

[rap169]

Originally posted by Redrider99
Hahaha good point. and my little heater wasnt doing it for me. so I set up temporary shop in my household garage. Which is nice while working on the quad but not so nice in the morning walking outside in the morning to my freezing cold car haha
hahah but the quad is def more important the the car. the car can withstand the cold. lol

[Redrider99]

Originally posted by rap169
hahah but the quad is def more important the the car. the car can withstand the cold. lol

That was my thinking when I did it haha. Car takes backseat to the quad anyday off the week

[Redrider99]

Originally posted by staakej
Phil from e-sticky sent a pic of the graphics except I wont have all those sponser decals This thing is gona look sweet with some white body work

Man those are going to look great on white plastics. I really hope you find some soon haha

[veenser2000]

Very nice build so far staake.. you can tell you are pretty experienced with these bikes im sure your new one will turn out great... also good choice on the e-sticky graphics i have the same and they are good quality, very nice finish and fit nicely!

[ejmoan1]

how much does it cost for a full esticky graphic kit like that one because i m looking into graphics for mine

[55stone]

looks good man... i love getting junk blown up and fixing them up..its my hobby too but no job right now so doing nothing..looks good cant wait to see it done...

[veenser2000]

they are 150 for graphics and # plates or 115 for just graphics custom to YOU


Originally posted by ejmoan1
how much does it cost for a full esticky graphic kit like that one because i m looking into graphics for mine

[staakej]

hey guys got a little more done hope to have the exhaust on tomorrow. It's getting really close to being done witch is prob just gona make me mad because it like 2 below and snowing in IL right now. I'll just get to sit in my shop and look at it till spring. Order my white plastic today after a long search for the best price. Got full set of Oem white plastic for 268.69 shipped from hondapartspitstop.com Still hafta get me graphics payed for and that's all I have left.

[Baileygunns]

Don't know if you're into "white camo" but Rockymountain.com has these One Industries Camo Graphic Kit White (http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/productDetail.do?&navType=type&webTypeId=44&navTitle=Graphics%2FSeat&webCatId=11&prodFamilyId=16111#vehicleSelect) for $9.99.

[staakej]

Originally posted by Baileygunns
Don't know if you're into "white camo" but Rockymountain.com has these One Industries Camo Graphic Kit White (http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/productDetail.do?&navType=type&webTypeId=44&navTitle=Graphics%2FSeat&webCatId=11&prodFamilyId=16111#vehicleSelect) for $9.99.

wow thats super cheap but I already go my heart set on those e-sticky graphics

[Redrider99]

wow thats going to be terrible letting that fresh 450 sit there but hey its winter. As soon as that exhaust is on get a video of that thing running!!

[staakej]

Originally posted by Redrider99
wow thats going to be terrible letting that fresh 450 sit there but hey its winter. As soon as that exhaust is on get a video of that thing running!!

I know it's really gona suck once I get it done I'm gona get the shocks on the ktm done and I'm ready to hit the the track. Hopefully we will have some nice weather in feb and I can start practicing on the track running on the tread mill every day sucks

[staakej]

got the tank on today should have the exhaust on tomorrow if I get me shocks tomorrow well fire this puppy up

[staakej]

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[ATV Chic]

wow. i hope we are able to get my quad apart and redone so quickly! We've never done it before and i'm nervous about it. Is it difficult to keep track of the wiring? I worry bout that the most!:scary:

[staakej]

Originally posted by sexyatvchic
wow. i hope we are able to get my quad apart and redone so quickly! We've never done it before and i'm nervous about it. Is it difficult to keep track of the wiring? I worry bout that the most!:scary:

dont be 450R wiring is easy every thing is color coded and what isnt dosnt use the same plug if your not sure just take pic of the wiring as you take it off then you'll have a refance when you go back together. If your powdercoating be sure that all your grounds are on some bare metal.

[ATV Chic]

thanks for the advice i appreciate it! hopefully going to start tear down this week. I hadn't even thought about taking pics of it. I do plan on powder coating. so i wanted to ask, what do u do to ground it to a piece of metal? do u ground it on another area of the bike all together?
thanks again for ur help!

[hendershot106]

Man... i am truly impressed by your build!!!!!! Definitely a nice build otw to completion. :D

Makes me wish i still had any of my hondas.

They look so good rebuilt and pc'd!!!

Props!!

[Redrider99]

Cant say it enough, WOW!! your going to look like the coolest guy rolling this quad and your ktm out of the trailer at the track haha

[staakej]

well plastic should be here on monday or tues just payed for the graphics should have them soon should have my shocks next week so hope fully in a week we will have this build done. thanks everyone for cheackin out my build I will be callin on you for your Quad of the month vote

[Latemodel32]

staakej what is the part # for the plastics in white? I only see red and black listed for 04-05 im going to get a white set also. Funny thing is Parts Pit Stop (Honda Village) in GR MI i drive by it everyday to work.Im stopping in there mon for some nuts and bolts i need.

[racer 557]

if you want white you have to either get maier or get newer plasric it will fit i have 06 rears on my 04 there fine only thing diff that is not from 06 is the tank i beleive

[staakej]

Originally posted by Latemodel32
staakej what is the part # for the plastics in white? I only see red and black listed for 04-05 im going to get a white set also. Funny thing is Parts Pit Stop (Honda Village) in GR MI i drive by it everyday to work.Im stopping in there mon for some nuts and bolts i need.

you can get white in kick start if you look under 07 model year

[racer 557]

Originally posted by staakej
you can get white in kick start if you look under 07 model year

yea thats what year i thought just was a 100% on the year but he asked what is was for a 04 like part number and it was only red and black

[mat1977]

Originally posted by staakej
well plastic should be here on monday or tues just payed for the graphics should have them soon should have my shocks next week so hope fully in a week we will have this build done. thanks everyone for cheackin out my build I will be callin on you for your Quad of the month vote You got my vote,that thing is beautiful.

[Seano300ex]

hey staakej where can I find myself some dirt fiend graphics? thanks bro

[staakej]

Originally posted by Seano300ex
hey staakej where can I find myself some dirt fiend graphics? thanks bro

you can go to there web sight dirtfiendracing.com or they have an ebay store nice graphics Ive used them before and they look sick. Just going with more a factory look with this bike

[Shawthy33]

Just read all 23 pages, can't wait to see this thing come together down the home stretch, white plastic is definitely the way to go.

Nice build

[staakej]

well got the plastic today. Had to trim some of the tabs off where the factory hoods mount then marked and drilled my hole for my flat maier hoof. still need to mod the rear fender where it mounts under the tank. man the white really set's it off

[staakej]

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[racer 557]

Man lookin good but I hope u take them funky warnin signs off

[staakej]

Originally posted by racer 557
Man lookin good but I hope u take them funky warnin signs off

O yeah there comin off just havnt got to that yet.

[racer 557]

Just checkin haha but it looks good and also the red kinda looks orange kinds like the special edition er I beleive for 08 or 09

[staakej]

Originally posted by racer 557
Just checkin haha but it looks good and also the red kinda looks orange kinds like the special edition er I beleive for 08 or 09

The pics do make it look orange it's look more red in person

[racer 557]

Well which ever way it is it still looks good I wish I would have did my chassis a red color instead of black

[Shawthy33]

I'm in love, absolutely perfect color combo.

[staakej]

Originally posted by Shawthy33
I'm in love, absolutely perfect color combo.

yeah I think so to but I cant take all the credit a few guys watching the post talked me into white plastic and i'm glad they did I think the white brings a nice balance to the red and black. I think if I would have done red or black it would have been to much of one color.

[Baileygunns]

Now hurry up and put that decal kit on it!!!

You're right though... The white was the only way to go on this one.

[Redrider99]

the white was the way to go and those graphics you got are going to just wrap the whole project up. great build man

[atvnut22]

you can thank me for the white plastics:D :D

all joking aside, i do think this bike is really turnng out great. it may be one of the first red framed bikes i really like.

[staakej]

got the rear plastic trimmed to fit today. on the left side I trimmed out a slot so the two sides would go around the tab on plastic cover under the tank it looks like it will hold but if it pops out i'll just drill a hole and secure it with a zip tie. on the right side the tab on the plastic would go into the mounting location but put the plastic at a funny angle so I shaved some of it off so it would sit on top off the factory mounting location drilled a hole in it and secured it with a zip tie. I'll just hafta cut the zip tie every time I want to remove the plastic no big deal

[staakej]

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[staakej]

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[staakej]

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[MX450]

when i did mine on the right side all i did was pop the rubber grommet out of the heat shield and then the plastic pops right in

[hilltop_83]

looks good man! i had to do the same thing with my white plastics when i put mine on

[staakej]

nothin new still waiting on parts did start it the other day couldn't wait any longer fired right off 3rd kick i think sounds pretty good had a minor oil leak o-ring on the filter cap was bad.

[hilltop_83]

I dont know if i missed it somewhere but, what kind of grab bar are you using? I like it simple and has a number plate.

[fastredrider44]

Originally posted by staakej
nothin new still waiting on parts did start it the other day couldn't wait any longer fired right off 3rd kick i think sounds pretty good had a minor oil leak o-ring on the filter cap was bad.

Its funny how a little defect in the oring will create such a leak. Looking good man. Hopefully I can start a build thread before too long. Rebuilt plenty of bikes, but never wanted to take the time to document it like so.

[staakej]

Originally posted by hilltop_83
I dont know if i missed it somewhere but, what kind of grab bar are you using? I like it simple and has a number plate.

oem PC'd black mounted the number plate to the brake light bracket

[staakej]

Originally posted by fastredrider44
Its funny how a little defect in the oring will create such a leak. Looking good man. Hopefully I can start a build thread before too long. Rebuilt plenty of bikes, but never wanted to take the time to document it like so.

O yeah the o ring just had a little flat spot wasn't even cut and oil pored out of it.

[big bad beny]

you get that thang done yet?

[staakej]

Originally posted by big bad beny
you get that thang done yet?

Still waiting on shocks graphics came 2 day I get pics up as soon as i get them put on.

[ATV Chic]

can't wait to see er' done!

p.s. cute kitty btw lol

[staakej]

hey guys been busy and still waiting on some parts but still to cold to ride anyways hope its done next weekend gona go ride in the quad wars at monster jam in st louis would like to have this bike done and go break it in. got the graphics on what do you think

[staakej]

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