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mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 06:12 PM
anyone seen wimmers rear tires that they groove? if not its on the back cover of the newest quad mag.
ive known bout this for a while and decided to try a set for myself but wat would be the easiest way??
heres a pic of 1 tire i started on with a grinder and the smoke kills me lol smells like a massive burnout haha.
any ideas on a easier way? besides buyin a groover?
heres mine
usp4u
10-26-2009, 06:17 PM
theres a tool made for this...."tire groover"/"hot knife"
any onther pics of his tires? i wanna groove mine. but wanna do more than just tht. i was thinking about doing ever other thread. and then doing the sides like tht.
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by honda4life818
any onther pics of his tires? i wanna groove mine. but wanna do more than just tht. i was thinking about doing ever other thread. and then doing the sides like tht.
yeh mine arent done yet but ill post the pic of his
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by usp4u
theres a tool made for this...."tire groover"/"hot knife"
yeh for almost 100 dollars ill use my grinder until i can get one:D
would this make them wear any quicker? i cant really afford to buy new tires a few times a year. i wanna get the most i can out of mine.
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by honda4life818
would this make them wear any quicker? i cant really afford to buy new tires a few times a year. i wanna get the most i can out of mine.
not sure but mine are the hard compound razrs and i have 2 seasons on them so im buyin a new set and grooving the spares which i have 2 sets of spares.
they also do this to the quadcross
yea. i just got mine not to long ago. there just the regular razr mx's.mine have like a year of good riding on them and look about like yours. me and my brother grooved some kendas. and the didnt last no time.if i do mine it will be just like yours(when u post finished pics). im doing mine with a grinder also.
Canadian144
10-26-2009, 06:31 PM
My suggestion:
buy a mask for your mouth. LOL. Get the disposable kind for cheap, and wear 2 at once.
or.. enhale the smoke, wait. and expect a somewhat high feeling. haha
usp4u
10-26-2009, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by mxpimp2000
yeh for almost 100 dollars ill use my grinder until i can get one:D
does $65 sound any better?
http://www.scpraceparts.com/ideal-delux-tire-grooving-iron-includes-4-head-and-blades.html
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 06:34 PM
heres wimmers and dougs bike u can see them better on dougs but they both are grooved the same and every knobb is cut
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o224/mxpimp2000/picture-1.jpg
BlaineKaiser450
10-26-2009, 06:36 PM
im doin some insane grooving on some Razr Mxs, tryin to make a really good loam tire. Il post pics of it next time im out doin it. Every single lug is modified in some way haha
im thinking. do the sides like theres. every other knob in the middle row do a side ways cut acrose, then do the back sides like the outter sides and maybe a random cut here and there.
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 06:38 PM
heres another one of the center tread i started on and quit for the day, i believe i need a smaller grinding wheel
thats what i was talking about ^^
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by honda4life818
thats what i was talking about ^^
yeh iam goin to do them all except the sides just gonna leave them cut at angles
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by usp4u
does $65 sound any better?
http://www.scpraceparts.com/ideal-delux-tire-grooving-iron-includes-4-head-and-blades.html
yeh ebay has them for like 59.99 and 15.00 shipping
i think im gonna start mine tommarow. would there be any benefit if i grooved front razr mx's?
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by honda4life818
i think im gonna start mine tommarow. would there be any benefit if i grooved front razr mx's?
nah i wouldnt do that...i switched to razr cross fronts they are kinda softer and hook 10x better. i would leave the fronts alone. i aint seen wimmers ever grooved so maybe thats the best setup
yea thats what i was thinking. i just got this full set last year on wheels for a good deal, but when these wear out im getting the same set up there running on my wheels. thanks for all your help man.
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 06:49 PM
ive got a set of xc razrs that came from ballance and they are grooved just like the last pic i posted but the side knobbs arent. just all the centers are
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by honda4life818
yea thats what i was thinking. i just got this full set last year on wheels for a good deal, but when these wear out im getting the same set up there running on my wheels. thanks for all your help man.
no prb man, but wimmer is running the yellow label razrs the soft compounds and still has them grooved so thats a super soft after they are grooved. they get a new set every race so y not just cut em up and wear em out 1 race :D
Once you do a set of tires with a groover, you'll be wondering why you ever bothered with the grinder. I can groove a set in about 20 minutes...no smoke, no mess. Also, grooved tires will last about half as long as a set of non-grooved tires.
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Scro
Once you do a set of tires with a groover, you'll be wondering why you ever bothered with the grinder. I can groove a set in about 20 minutes...no smoke, no mess. Also, grooved tires will last about half as long as a set of non-grooved tires.
but im sure theres a difference in traction
jasonjonesjj
10-26-2009, 08:14 PM
Hey man if you or anyone else is looking for a set of soft compound razrs, James Perry at jpmx had a couple sets left a few weeks ago after I bought mine.
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by jasonjonesjj
Hey man if you or anyone else is looking for a set of soft compound razrs, James Perry at jpmx had a couple sets left a few weeks ago after I bought mine.
awesome, i just bought a set of razr cross fronts and idk wat im gonna buy for the rears yet maybe hoosier or something.
you gonna come out to edmonton this weekend theres a race sat/sun both
Originally posted by mxpimp2000
but im sure theres a difference in traction
Oh yeah, it's all the difference in the world. Much more forward bite. I wouldn't run my Razr's any other way.
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Scro
Oh yeah, it's all the difference in the world. Much more forward bite. I wouldn't run my Razr's any other way.
but u GNCC right?
cosinostra
10-26-2009, 08:43 PM
http://www.daymotorsports.com/product/403/TIRE-GROOVER
$59.99 + shipping. Comes with blades and a head...
Best way to do it. Using a grinder can really trash your tire......Making a weak spot where you burn the hell out of it... Trash one tire and you could have bought the groover that you WILL use again....
I'm running a set of Maxxis XC. They are 100 times better grooved. Copied the ITP GNCC Pattern. Took about 45 mins or so for both tires.
The best way to groove front razors is to cut the middle of all the Xs out. thats how wimmer been running them for a few years.
K-Dub
10-26-2009, 09:10 PM
From what Im seeing there grooving them to look like a holeshot. So why not save time and buy a holeshot to start with? They already hav the groove in the middle of the tread.
mxpimp2000
10-26-2009, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by K-Dub
From what Im seeing there grooving them to look like a holeshot. So why not save time and buy a holeshot to start with? They already hav the groove in the middle of the tread.
razrs are 49.99 ea. holeshots are more expensive and way softer
i never liked the razrs they had no bite in the corners compared to the holeshot...idk if its the profile of the tire or the actual tread , looks like doug and dustin are trying to combat this with some grooving...anyone else would pay a bit extra and run holeshots, much better tire...much more grip in the corners IMO...
blacknblue#2
10-27-2009, 07:51 AM
To my experience holeshots are a great tire for about 4 or 5 rides. Then the tread starts ripping off and they dont hold worth a crap. Like i said they hold awesome for a few races for me. but only a few races. Razrs last me 2 seasons. alot cheaper that way lol.
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