My new pup.... [Archive] - ATV Riders Forum

tri5ron

10-26-2009, 12:36 PM

Good lookin' pup there Pappy,...
Christmas morning '07, Santa left a late arrival package on our front doorstep...

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/tri5ron/christmas%202007/PicturesfromMomscamera113.jpg

The kids just went nuts! They named her Duchess...

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/tri5ron/christmas%202007/PicturesfromMomscamera130.jpg

My wife made the mistake of letting her sleep on the bed. Now, If I want to snuggle up next to Mama, I've got to fight my way through 2 Freakin' Mutts!

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/tri5ron/New%20Puppy%20Christmas%2007/IMG_8019.jpg

Now she's 70 lbs. and is more commonly referred to as "Dufess", LOL! But she is my buddy. here she is out fishin with me last summer... Yellow Labs are great dogs.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/tri5ron/Havasu%20vacation%202008/IMG_8736.jpg

Hell !, I don't even get any bed space in the camper EITHER !!!...

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/tri5ron/Havasu%20vacation%202008/IMG_8724.jpg

DAMN DOG !!!

Pappy

10-26-2009, 01:04 PM

Your wife is where she belongs(in the kitchen) and your dog runs your life....

Ron..we need to have a talk haha:blah:

jcv....you go with what you know....

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery/DSC0904/693540115_x7Nbx-O.jpg

Guy400

10-26-2009, 01:12 PM

Cool dog. We're kicking around the idea of getting a dog. My wife and I both grew up with dogs but after not having one for about 5 years now we've grown accustomed to not having to find a dogsitter when we leave somewhere and walking through the backyard barefooted and not stepping in a landmine:D But, I've got a 5-1/2 year old and a 3-1/2 year old and they're starting with the "Daddy, when can we get a dog?" They think it's their turn because their older cousins got one about 2 months ago.

meankfx

10-26-2009, 01:57 PM

Thats a good looking dog pappy.

IRISH-RACER-14

10-26-2009, 02:04 PM

ive got a black lab. have him since may 2003. he was born in march 2003. he never barks, hes quite and growls to some people. hes always shy and never leaves the home. hes gone kinda shy since our lillte pup died. is 6/7 years old 2 old 2 start breathing the dog. as in make pups

One_Bad_400

10-26-2009, 02:11 PM

I wish i could get another dog soon. I have a mixed Mutt that is a great dog.

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs280.snc1/10731_192579328437_764558437_3897802_5072495_n.jpg

Her ears can pick up AM, FM, and XM radio (if she tunes them in just right, some times i can get the local police scanner :D )

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs280.snc1/10731_192579318437_764558437_3897801_2516645_n.jpg

I also have a Boxer and Husky. my rottweiler just died a few months ago. 14 years old :( best dog in the world. as soon as i move out of my dad's lake house i'm going to get another one.

Quad18star

10-26-2009, 03:15 PM

Ken have you falling off the rocker? 3 Labs ?? You're insane my friend. LOL

If I had a bigger yard I'd get another... but right now I don't have the space.

That's one beautiful looking pup.... I'm guessing he's a full blown purebred .. he looks like it anyways. Train him early or else the habits are hard to break .. as Im sure you know . hahaha

Ron ... I'm in the same boat as you .... you give the dog an inch on the bed ... the next thing you know you're sleeping with one foot on the ground so that you don't fall off and you're trying to find a piece of a pillow. LOL

j_cyrus3

10-26-2009, 03:34 PM

Nice dog, I love labs. I have 3 myself.

Browny (mine and dad's dog): outside dog, he's only 9 months old and he is about 80lb.
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt89/j_cyrus3/HPIM0887.jpg

Scarlet (mom and dads dog): She's almost 10, or maybe 11, and she stays inside, sleeps on the couch.

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt89/j_cyrus3/HPIM0888-1.jpg

This is Abby, she's my dog, sleeps with me and my old lady... right in the middle, takes up half of the bed.

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt89/j_cyrus3/abby3.jpg

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Guy400

10-26-2009, 03:40 PM

One_bad, is that a Manchester Terrier mix? My dad's dog looks just like that except his coloring is of a doberman. The place he got it from says he's a Manchester Terrier/Miniature Doberman mix.

One_Bad_400

10-26-2009, 03:46 PM

we are not sure. some crazy family down the street's dog bumped uglies with some random dog and they left all the puppies out side to defend for them selves. so we took it. all the others were of a creamish color with black mouths. she was the only one what wasnt colored like that.

Ralph

10-26-2009, 03:47 PM

Adorable pup!

Our older black lab, Dewey, is starting to feel the effects of old age. Hes doing a lot more lying down now-a-days.

J.Brown121

10-26-2009, 04:30 PM

the border collie is my dads, and the boxer is mine.

bens250ex

10-26-2009, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by One_Bad_400
I wish i could get another dog soon. I have a mixed Mutt that is a great dog.

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs280.snc1/10731_192579328437_764558437_3897802_5072495_n.jpg

Her ears can pick up AM, FM, and XM radio (if she tunes them in just right, some times i can get the local police scanner :D )

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs280.snc1/10731_192579318437_764558437_3897801_2516645_n.jpg

I also have a Boxer and Husky. my rottweiler just died a few months ago. 14 years old :( best dog in the world. as soon as i move out of my dad's lake house i'm going to get another one.

OH LORD !!!! NANA!!!!!:eek: she dont like me

slightlybent47

10-26-2009, 04:42 PM

Great pics pappy as useual, I'm glad he's chewing up your house and not mine. LOL!!!

I love pup's but the last dog I got was a pound dog and grown.
All the work had been done.

Here's my pound dog.

http://i37.tinypic.com/2cfv38y.jpg

J.Brown121

10-26-2009, 05:04 PM

this is right after i got him

Pappy

10-26-2009, 05:05 PM

My oldest lab is a bit picky over the new pup...but he will warm up

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery/DSC0899/693530215_dKdwb-O.jpg

J.Brown121

10-26-2009, 05:07 PM

Here's my pound dog.

http://i37.tinypic.com/2cfv38y.jpg [/B][/QUOTE]

Dang he's a beast! How much does he weigh? Mine is just about full grown now and he's about 70lbs.

Pipeless416

10-26-2009, 05:07 PM

great looking puppy and dogs! looks like he'll be fun :p

Quad18star

10-26-2009, 05:08 PM

The oldest doesn't look too impressed with you ken. lol

I also spy a nice big box of dog treats ... time to get a sponsor from Purina!!!

IcutMetl

10-26-2009, 05:10 PM

This is Mallie. I got her as a used model; the vet says she's part St. Bernard, part sneaky neighbor's dog. Most laid back and well behaved dog ever; used to love to go perch fishing on Lake Erie till her doggie arthritis set in- she's 10 years old now. When I sold that ZX10, I needed a way to display my riding jacket- the guy who bought it brought his girlfriend. While he took it for a test ride, she told me that picture was the reason she let him buy it.

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j_cyrus3

10-26-2009, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by Pappy
My oldest lab is a bit picky over the new pup...but he will warm up

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery/DSC0899/693530215_dKdwb-O.jpg

It took our oldest dog about 3 months to start playing with my pup.. She would bite her and growl and the pup would just hit the floor and roll on her back. They play together now, biting each others lips and tails, they're funny to watch.

EDIT: beautiful dog, he reminds me of one of my dogs(Tyson, he was huge) that died from heart worms. :(

Pappy

10-26-2009, 05:20 PM

Well the wife sent me to Petsmart and I wont be using them...damn expensive!

JJs450r

10-26-2009, 05:22 PM

we just got a boxer hes almost 5 months old we wanted a dog that could keep up with our pit bull and boxers have a ton of energy lol

JJs450r

10-26-2009, 05:23 PM

how he sleeps every night between the couch cushion and backing

JJs450r

10-26-2009, 05:25 PM

tripp warmed up to him real fast im sure he was feeling lonely after we had our lab put down

J.Brown121

10-26-2009, 05:27 PM

JJs450r, you have two great looking dogs and my boxer hasn't slowed down since we brought him home lol

JJs450r

10-26-2009, 05:32 PM

thanks your boxer is really good looking i like the colors, ya i feel you on that one i dont think ive ever seen a calm boxer no matter the age lol

btw pappy verry good lookin pup

slightlybent47

10-26-2009, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by ridin'MX365
Here's my pound dog.

http://i37.tinypic.com/2cfv38y.jpg

Dang he's a beast! How much does he weigh? Mine is just about full grown now and he's about 70lbs. [/B][/QUOTE]

She is about 70 lbs and the stoutest boxer I've ever had. She is the forth one I've had and the most lade back one yet.
She came fully trained and knows hand signals. Someone put a lot of work in this dog. I’ve had her about six years now.

I've had dogs all my life and I know enough to know that this one is one of those rare once in a life time dogs.

hilltop_83

10-26-2009, 05:57 PM

You got a good lookin pup pappy, they grow up so fast...mine just turned a year old a lil while back

J.Brown121

10-26-2009, 06:44 PM

thanks JJs450r, and slightlybent47 she looks to be about the same size as the female that was the mother of mine. she was pretty stout as well. boxers are pretty damn smart if you can get them to pay attention long enough lol

3ddds400ex

10-26-2009, 11:10 PM

Nice pup pappy. I have a flat coat retriever(12yrs) and a Malinoid(5yrs). My wife has a Poodle (not mine). :rolleyes:

Quad18star

10-27-2009, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by Pappy
Well the wife sent me to Petsmart and I wont be using them...damn expensive!

Hahaha .. you mean you're not buying a $15 dog toy that'll he'll have destroyed in 20 minutes? El Cheapo !!!!!!!:p

How old is the pup right now? I remember when we got Hunter , 12 weeks old stocky little bugger . I wish they stayed small .. they grow up too quick, although at almost 4 years old, he still has the puppy character and doesn't realize it sometimes.. like at 6am when he jumps on the bed , pins me down and licks my face while I'm sleeping.:huh

Quad18star

10-27-2009, 07:47 AM

I'm sure everyone remembers Hunter.

The day we got him .. 12 weeks old.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/Quad18star/DSCN0836.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/Quad18star/c5d7a78a.jpg

Growing up...
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2 years old... he hasn't grown much since , just got a little greyer ariund the chin.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/Quad18star/IMG_0580.jpg

Quad18star

10-27-2009, 07:53 AM

I had the guys at screenfx.com make this up for me to use on a Tundra forum. I think it looks pretty sweet.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/Quad18star/quadstar.jpg

spanky101

10-27-2009, 07:56 AM

Thats a nice looking lab you have there quadstar! I cant wait to get another dog, now trying to convince mom of another big dog in the house is the issue. We have a 5 year old brittany spaniel and shes a charachter but i think shed enjoy a new playmate! :blah:

Pappy

10-27-2009, 08:32 AM

7 weeks

At 7 weeks they havent formed the heiarchy or dominace structure

Pappy

12-21-2009, 03:32 PM

Well, he has done some growing! He went squirell hunting with me this morning and did very well. No tree rats were seen but he listened and such.

My wifes soon to be dead cat killed a wren just after we walked back in the house, and as I was trying to stomp the cat and free teh bird, Gauge made a one gulp meal of one Carolina Wren:rotfl:

This afternoon I took him to the cornpatch for some updated pictures, I hope you enjoy them!

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery/DSC3151/746598496_2jwPR-O.jpg

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Pappy

12-21-2009, 03:33 PM

The deep snow made for some excellent action shots as he did his best to romp around

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery/DSC3155/746603642_DEnUj-O.jpg

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery/DSC3159/746613175_cHgH9-O.jpg

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Pappy

12-21-2009, 03:34 PM

My son was throwing corn cobs to get him to run at me. He decided he could cut out the middle man in this game haha!

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery/DSC3216/746694745_LANzz-O.jpg

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631kfx400

12-21-2009, 03:43 PM

looks like he likes snow:devil:

j_cyrus3

12-21-2009, 08:03 PM

Pink nose labs FTW!

Quad18star

12-22-2009, 10:23 AM

I see he still hasn't grown into his ears yet.:p

He's a beauty Ken .... and it looks like the training is going well. I think I have the only lab in the world that doesn't like playing fetch.

fastredrider44

12-22-2009, 02:02 PM

Awesome pics. :D And that's funny about his name. A good friend of mine has a very similar looking yellow lab named "Gauge". I just hope your dog is smarter and less goofy than that 90 pound lap dog.:grr:

ROBS08YFZ450

12-22-2009, 04:00 PM

Good looking dog...Here is our pack during our July 2009 vac to Heceta beach in Oregon.

http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx135/ROBS08YFZ450/MY%20DOGS/100_3245.jpg

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antwanrttg

12-22-2009, 06:40 PM

Here's my little man when I picked him up 4 years ago...

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/AntwanRTTG/Icon/9ab1e6d2.jpg

antwanrttg

12-22-2009, 06:41 PM

And this is him now ... Hands down the greatest dog I have ever been around.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/AntwanRTTG/Icon/756aadb3.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e19/AntwanRTTG/Icon/100_0374.jpg

Pappy

12-23-2009, 02:01 PM

16 weeks....made his first honest retrieve!!

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery/BEA9736/748285733_qSNfb-O.jpg

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery/BEA9734/748285655_LuNhR-O.jpg

133tmf

12-23-2009, 02:19 PM

hey pap , its fink been forever, hope all is well and happy holidays to u and family!!!! wow hes awsome , dogs truley are mans best friend !!!! i got to furry daughters , wouldnt kno wat to do without em !!!!! enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pappy

12-23-2009, 02:25 PM

Damn son....thought you moved to Fiji and were a beach bum!!!

Everyone is doing good, just working like usual. You and yours have a very Merry Christmas and we hope to see you soon!

ccmuscle22

12-23-2009, 02:27 PM

Happy Holidays buddy! Great pictures. We have a 7 year old yellow lab, a retired bird dog.
They are the best!

Christian
TEAM MXN MotoX Nutrition
www.motoxnutrition.com

Pappy

12-23-2009, 02:31 PM

I have a 8 year old Black Lab that I was getting really worried about. he has arthritis in his back knees (no hip issues) and had really gained weight and was in just an aweful state.

Vet said to buy this high dollar joint medication but when I looked at it, it was virtually 100% fish oil. So now me and Moose are both taking fish oil pills for our joints:p Its been a few weeks and we can tell a huge improvement with him! Old labs dont retire!!!!

If I dont get a chance, have a Merry Christmas Christian....and Cody wanted me to tell you he went from 176 to 142 pounds and lifts daily......big improvement but he said he will catch up to you someday LOL!!!

ccmuscle22

12-23-2009, 02:35 PM

Hey man, That's awesome. Tell Cody congrats. He has full MXN support all year. We'll have a MXN Young Guns section on the new website. We'll get Cody up there for sure.
In late January the new MXN products will be ready, I'll get with you and we'll send Cody everything!

Happy Holidays!!

Christian

Pappy

12-23-2009, 02:43 PM

Hey we appreciate it!!

Ive done my best to loose some weight (almost 40 pounds) but still have issues with recovery. Im much better hydrated these days but afraid the diabetes will eventually eat me up:p

Hit me up when the new stuff is ready, looking forward to trying it!

133tmf

12-25-2009, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by Pappy
Damn son....thought you moved to Fiji and were a beach bum!!!

Everyone is doing good, just working like usual. You and yours have a very Merry Christmas and we hope to see you soon! hahahahaha na that does sound tempting tho !!! same here working alot !!! a GOOD thing !!! ya man c ya at the track !

woodsracer144

12-28-2009, 09:52 PM

christ did the pup beat the sqrl up that bad or was it you? how have you been training him... My mom has a pomeranian yorkie and his name is jack, he got hit by a car 3 mths after we had him cause he though he owned the road and found out not to do that... and some how walked away with just a broken rear leg...

im the only one he will listen to... he likes to cry when we eat and all i have to say is Jack go lay down and he go and sits in his bed and lays there till i tell him to come out... when we let him out side... he plays with the cats and he has a hard time wanting to come in and all i have to yell out the door is "JACK COME HERE!" and he comes running! but i cant get the dang pup to sit and stay...

i would love to get a lab and train it for duck hunting!

Pappy

12-28-2009, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by woodsracer144
christ did the pup beat the sqrl up that bad or was it you? how have you been training him... !

I shot the tree rat in the head:p

Right now it is all basic stuff....typical commands (here, sit, no bite, dont chew the couch...put down the kitchen chair...stop chewing onthe other dogs:p )

It is just good timing (duck season) and I am able to have a few birds around for him to retrieve. The biggest obstacles he overcame himself, picking up a duck and bringing it to me. Alot of dogs will not just pick one up and even fewer actually bring them to you without a bunch of training and hard work...im lucky he has alot of natural drive to do this without much work or coaxing from me. I make it a game, and show him alot of attention when he does good and combine his mistakes with PATIENCE on my end.

The other day he retrieved 7 or 8 times but would short drop the duck a few feet from me. I sent Cody inside to grab afew treats and would not give him one until he held the bird until I took it from him. It took 2 trys and then he made 4 or 5 perfect retrieves to my hand so we quit on a good note.

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery/DSC3423/750924707_PUnWY-O.jpg

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tri5ron

12-28-2009, 10:07 PM

Dang Pappy,
those WV squirrels must be pretty tough for you to have to use exploding projectiles on 'em ! LOL!

Gauge is looking pretty sweet and proud of himself.

woodsracer144

12-29-2009, 10:42 AM

what kid of birds did he bring back... i've never seen one like them...

Pappy

12-29-2009, 10:47 AM

Those are Mergansers....one common, one hooded

Pappy

01-01-2010, 10:16 AM

Add 3 Geese to the freezer.

This was his first water hunt and he did AWESOME!!!! I couldnt have asked for a better hunt with him. We had about 30 geese work right down river to us and he remained beside me and never broke even when the geese and him were eye level and less then 10 yards apart!

Go Gauge!!!

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery/BEA9746/754543725_C393i-O.jpg

backwoodsracer

01-01-2010, 04:07 PM

how many labs does it take to do the job of one boykin spaniel???

tres

Pappy

01-01-2010, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by backwoodsracer
how many labs does it take to do the job of one boykin spaniel???

Boykins are for guys who's wives wont let them have a real dog LMAO!

Pappy

04-03-2010, 12:54 AM

Rough friday night:p

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IcutMetl

04-03-2010, 09:31 AM

Hahaha that's classic! Not sure if I posted her up here yet, but here is my "new" Husky. I got her about 2 months ago now after I had my St.Bernard mix put to sleep. She was a stray that I found at the local pound. She's about 2 years old, and so far has been a great dog. I take her to the local dog park at least 2 times a week, and she still has energy to spare!

Quad18star

04-03-2010, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Pappy
Rough friday night:p

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery-2/gaugesl/826296555_URC28-O.jpg

Change th color to dark brown and you have Hunter all over again. Ours sleeps the EXACT same way. Must be a lab trait.

He's gotten big .... looks good. What's his weight now?

Pappy

04-03-2010, 06:02 PM

He has surpassed nut crunching weight:chinese:

I reckon he is around 80 now. His water trainings tarts this week so i will have some updated pics

nastyrider17

04-03-2010, 06:42 PM

Looks like a good dog pappy. I miss my old lab.

Pappy

12-10-2010, 10:35 PM

Well, we hit the water way before daylight for his first ever full on hunt. he did pretty well, still needs some better boat manners but did much better on our way home.

Hard to believe its been just over a year. He easily has 2 more years of training and I think he will make one hell of a duck dog! After next week, I will take him after Grouse.

http://kenhill.smugmug.com/Other/Private-Gallery-2/DSC2348/1122055831_iVdpF-L.jpg

We saw alot of ducks today but nothing close, and I had to be home early. Maybe we will get into them next week! A beaver popped up along side the boat and it and Gauge were nose to nose! I was worried they would fight but the beaver slipped back under water and gauge looked at me like "WTF was that!" LOL

honda400ex2003

12-10-2010, 10:40 PM

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dogs looking great pappy. you must be super bored tonight... wish i had a cool dog that actually did fun stuff. I wouldnt mind hunting with it if i could. our shih tzu only thinks she can get stuff. steve

99400esex

12-11-2010, 09:05 AM

Good looking dog, We have had our american eskimo puppy for a little over a year now and he's finally starting to learn what is good and bad! He was a little monster for the longest time, putting holes in the wall and floor, destroying chairs, messing with the cats, bathroom on the floor, but now he's learning pretty quick. He is a cool little dude and ill try to get some pics up.