04-05 or 06 up parts for my 450 conversion?

[Honda 250r 001]

i thought i read somewhere that the 04-05 spindles were better but now im not so sure of my self. Which ones are close to the 400ex geometry? Because my a arms were made for the 400ex spindles but i want to use the newest stuff possible. Whats the difference with the 04-05 and 06 and up?

[troybilt]

04-05 spindles are better than 06-09, similar in handling to 250r and 400EX, the 06-up push harder in the corners... there is a ton of threads on this on the 450R forum, try searching 450r info there.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by troybilt
04-05 spindles are better than 06-09, similar in handling to 250r and 400EX, the 06-up push harder in the corners... there is a ton of threads on this on the 450R forum, try searching 450r info there.

how bad is it though, i mean i could literally get a set of 06 up spindles for pennies and the 04-05 are really expensive. So if i buy all 06 and up parts, could i upgrade to the 04-05 spindles and still use the 06 up hubs and calipers? becuse right now im going with the cheaper 06 and up stuff.

[troybilt]

The 06 pushes in the corner's pretty bad compared to my 250R, which is supposedly the same as the 04-05 spindles. I never noticed it until I read that on here, went out riding last weekend and sure as sh#t it pushes in the slow tight corners bad. I actually bought 04-05 Houser Long travel aarms for mine so I can convert to 04-05 spindles. the upper aarms are different bw. 04-05 and 06-up. 1/4" shorter. With aftermarket aarms you have enough adjustment to use either spindles. (unsually)

With 06 spindles you need 06-up hubs, and vice versa for 04-05 spindles, the hubs are not backwards compatible. the calipers are the same, though. There is a load of information on this in the 450R forum. So don't take my word for it, but this is what I learned from my searches.

There is a reason the 06-up front end is cheaper cause everyone is selling there's to put 04-05 stuff on, to get back to 250r geometry.

EDIT: I should mention that the tires and wheels I have contribute a little to the fron end push to be fair. But my 250R turns way better.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by troybilt
The 06 pushes in the corner's pretty bad compared to my 250R, which is supposedly the same as the 04-05 spindles. I never noticed it until I read that on here, went out riding last weekend and sure as sh#t it pushes in the slow tight corners bad. I actually bought 04-05 Houser Long travel aarms for mine so I can convert to 04-05 spindles. the upper aarms are different bw. 04-05 and 06-up. 1/4" shorter. With aftermarket aarms you have enough adjustment to use either spindles. (unsually)

With 06 spindles you need 06-up hubs, and vice versa for 04-05 spindles, the hubs are not backwards compatible. the calipers are the same, though. There is a load of information on this in the 450R forum. So don't take my word for it, but this is what I learned from my searches.

There is a reason the 06-up front end is cheaper cause everyone is selling there's to put 04-05 stuff on, to get back to 250r geometry.

EDIT: I should mention that the tires and wheels I have contribute a little to the fron end push to be fair. But my 250R turns way better.

So why do they push? is it the camber? caster? I guess i will start looking for the 04-05 spindles then.
Thanks!

[troybilt]

The distance from the upper ball joint to the wheel is longer on the 06-up... from what I've read.

[Honda 250r 001]

Originally posted by troybilt
The distance from the upper ball joint to the wheel is longer on the 06-up... from what I've read.

haha looks like i have changed my mind once again. im going with the cheaper 06 and up parts because i cant afford the 04-05 parts. We will see how it works i guess.