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mxduner
09-25-2009, 10:45 PM
i recieved this email about his interview on cbs.


from CBS Sunday Morning - Ben Stein

I Only hope we find GOD again before it is too late



The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

My confession:
I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are, Christmas trees.
It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas' to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu . If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period.. I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God as we understand Him? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are won dering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.
In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.
Billy Graham 's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina ).. Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, 'I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?'

In light of recent events... terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem ( Dr. Spock 's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said okay.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.
Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit.


My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,

Ben Stein Shirley Scott

09-25-2009, 11:09 PM
Interesting read for sure. Things in this World seem so screwed up these days.

S.A.J
09-25-2009, 11:32 PM
mxduner you did a good thing by posting this,everybody should read this over. All the answers are right there,people just really dont wana hear it but they know its true....

spdygonzalez450
09-26-2009, 12:08 AM
great post, Ben Stein is smart and brilliant. Always have liked his stuff and what he has to say.

yam450_53
09-26-2009, 03:58 PM
You have to look at both sides of the story. I am an atheist myself, but whichever side you're on we all have our reasons. I personally never really understood how people believe in something that in my opinion, was created to offer answers to questions that people couldn't answer at the time and bring comfort to people when they had nothing else to believe in. Everything that happens in the world today is a consequence of our decisions, good and bad, and our actions. To blame the "declining world" on God punishing us is (no harm intended) absurd, and will not help restablish balance.

You are all quick to say that the removal of religion in schools and other public areas cause harm and death, but look at what damage religion has caused over the span of time. Look at all the wars it has generated long ago, look at the suicide bombers blowing up innocent people because they are sacrificing themselves for their lord. You can not deny that. I am happy that religion's presence is vanishing in our everyday lives, I prefer to have my own beliefs and opinions than to believe in something I have no proof exists. Yes we live in a crazy world, but if you look careful enough around you you'll see just as much good than bad, and love than hate.

LTandRaptorider
09-26-2009, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by yam450_53
You have to look at both sides of the story. I am an atheist myself, but whichever side you're on we all have our reasons. I personally never really understood how people believe in something that in my opinion, was created to offer answers to questions that people couldn't answer at the time and bring comfort to people when they had nothing else to believe in. Everything that happens in the world today is a consequence of our decisions, good and bad, and our actions. To blame the "declining world" on God punishing us is (no harm intended) absurd, and will not help restablish balance.

You are all quick to say that the removal of religion in schools and other public areas cause harm and death, but look at what damage religion has caused over the span of time. Look at all the wars it has generated long ago, look at the suicide bombers blowing up innocent people because they are sacrificing themselves for their lord. You can not deny that. I am happy that religion's presence is vanishing in our everyday lives, I prefer to have my own beliefs and opinions than to believe in something I have no proof exists. Yes we live in a crazy world, but if you look careful enough around you you'll see just as much good than bad, and love than hate.

Good post. :cool:

Chit
09-26-2009, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by yam450_53
You have to look at both sides of the story. I am an atheist myself, but whichever side you're on we all have our reasons. I personally never really understood how people believe in something that in my opinion, was created to offer answers to questions that people couldn't answer at the time and bring comfort to people when they had nothing else to believe in. Everything that happens in the world today is a consequence of our decisions, good and bad, and our actions. To blame the "declining world" on God punishing us is (no harm intended) absurd, and will not help restablish balance.

You are all quick to say that the removal of religion in schools and other public areas cause harm and death, but look at what damage religion has caused over the span of time. Look at all the wars it has generated long ago, look at the suicide bombers blowing up innocent people because they are sacrificing themselves for their lord. You can not deny that. I am happy that religion's presence is vanishing in our everyday lives, I prefer to have my own beliefs and opinions than to believe in something I have no proof exists. Yes we live in a crazy world, but if you look careful enough around you you'll see just as much good than bad, and love than hate.

Just as many wars have been started over money.

We humans aren't as smart as we liked to assume we are, and I don't think it's possible that our early ancestors came up with "God", so I think something happened a long time ago that triggered a thought in someone's mind that a mighty being exists.

I also like the morals that the Bible try to instill in anyone who reads it, and I'm only ashamed to be religious when extremists try to take the Bible out of context and use it for their own gain.

extremeblastr
09-26-2009, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Chit
I also like the morals that the Bible try to instill in anyone who reads it

i'm by no means trying to get into a debate or start an arguement but that quote is what leads me to believe the bible was created by a group of people in an attempt to keep peoples behavior in line.

powermadd400ex
09-26-2009, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by extremeblastr
i'm by no means trying to get into a debate or start an arguement but that quote is what leads me to believe the bible was created by a group of people in an attempt to keep peoples behavior in line.

it is written by people, but it was inspired by God. men motivated and that had dedicated their heart to God wrote the bible. God spoke through those men
the Bible gives guidance through life to eternity, it leads us to a relationship with God.

anywas, i agree with chit.