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hanzito
09-25-2009, 12:15 PM
well i am starting my build on two hybrids. one for my son. one for my self. i am goingot put a cr500 in my yfz450 chassis. tierd of building 450 motors and having them blow up. so i am going back to fun and more reliable 2 strokes and to be different. i hope to have this built and running by the beging of flat track season in late november.

my quad
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/06yfz450beforecr500swap.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/06yfz450nomotorbeforestartofhybrids.jpg

the donor bike bought yesterday
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/88cr5001.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/88cr50002.jpg

800screws
09-27-2009, 09:48 AM
buy this!!! jp outlaw lt250/500...trx250r geometry and a full dr.q 540 hrd brand new motor!!! i have the front lower kit and the rear has a dura blue adj. strut!
$6000

and it's counterbalanced!!!

hanzito
10-30-2009, 12:16 PM
udated pics. got the motor in. got the intake plumbed and figured out. gonna use my fci intake, but had to have a angled shim. made the front and lower mounts. had the bushings the swing arm bolt goes through drilled out to fit he yfz swing arm bolt. have to mad a head stay mount and finish modding the pipe. so hope fully in the next week or so i can get the initial mock up done. then i can take it apart and finish weld everything. and put it back together and fire it up.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic5.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic4.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic3.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic2.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic1.jpg


more to come

hanzito
10-30-2009, 12:50 PM
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic10.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic12.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic14.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic15.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic17.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic18.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic6.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/pic8.jpg

TroyLeePred03
10-30-2009, 05:10 PM
Ever considered the thought maybe you suck at or dont know how to rebuild a 4 stroke?

I know many fellow snowmobile mechanics who **** on four strokes only because they have no clue how to rebuild one correctly...too used to the easy 2 strokes....

Building a reliable 450 isnt rocket science...


On a better note.....i like the choice for a hybrid though....the cr500s were an awsome bike!

jcs003
10-31-2009, 03:56 AM
hopefully you reinforced that frame at all its possible failure points. also, find a liquid polymer to fill the chassis tubes with that will retard some of the harmonic vibrations that will reak havoc on your chassis and persons.

looks good so far.

hanzito
11-02-2009, 07:40 PM
well i am pretty sure i can build a motor. 4 or 2 stroke. have never had a problem with any motor i have personally built. but my yfz motor was blowing up and i wasnt turningthe wrenches. but never the less. i prefer 2 strokes any way. they are more fun and less common.


Originally posted by TroyLeePred03
Ever considered the thought maybe you suck at or dont know how to rebuild a 4 stroke?

I know many fellow snowmobile mechanics who **** on four strokes only because they have no clue how to rebuild one correctly...too used to the easy 2 strokes....

Building a reliable 450 isnt rocket science...


On a better note.....i like the choice for a hybrid though....the cr500s were an awsome bike!

Derrick Adams
11-09-2009, 09:30 AM
Be sure to keep us updated on this project. I have often thought about a YFZ with a 250R engine. I just love the light weight!

woodsracer144
11-10-2009, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by TroyLeePred03
Ever considered the thought maybe you suck at or dont know how to rebuild a 4 stroke?

I know many fellow snowmobile mechanics who **** on four strokes only because they have no clue how to rebuild one correctly...too used to the easy 2 strokes....

Building a reliable 450 isnt rocket science...


On a better note.....i like the choice for a hybrid though....the cr500s were an awsome bike!

i dont think its rebuilding thats the hard part... its shelling out twice the amount of money... i got a whole 250r motor for 250 bucks... i also could got just a bottom end for 250.. its also alot faster to go through a top end and they last alot longer then a 4 stroke... they rebuild them every race and some times they get more but back in the day they would run them for 3 years straight...

hanzito
11-22-2009, 04:11 PM
well despite my best efforts i got this thing running last weekend while having a bsu football game party at my house. managed to run it down the street once before the cops showed up. But last night i got to take it the races. i ran it int he open 2 stroke and int atv class at our local indoor flat track series.

And holy crap does it fly. gets alot better traction than i thought it would. But my gearing is way off. I started with a 14 front and a 36 rear. no where close. moved to a 14/38. still nope. then a 13/38 which is where i ran it last night. but i am getting torn off the line because you have to feather the clutch to get it to move. so the first ten feet i get torn. but once it is moving 2 nd gear was were the optimal gear for the track. i need to find a 12 tooth front sprocket and a 40 or bigger rear sprocket.

I kept having cooling line problems. apparently my attempt at having cool looking coolant lines was a waste of time. because the clear tubeing i used kept ruptureing. so i guess i will go with the normal black stuff. will post videos and pics later.

born2ride14
11-22-2009, 04:48 PM
Sweet cant wiat to see the pics and vids, Did you get your sons done? Do you still have the crf250 motor?

hanzito
11-22-2009, 07:03 PM
i leave for california right after thanks giving so i will build my sons over the xmas break. ran out of funds. and i still have the 250f motor sitting in my garage.

born2ride14
11-22-2009, 07:05 PM
PM sent

hanzito
11-22-2009, 10:24 PM
for my sons i have to buy a complete swingarm minus the axle and front shocks and full plastics. other wise i should have everything i need.

hanzito
11-25-2009, 12:03 PM
got some videos up on youtube. search flat track caldwell. username spidafreek. my quad is the number 79 white yfz with yelllow rings on my hypers. and my sons current mini ride is the black mini #1. blue and white gear. i am in all black gear on my quad. my buddy is in blue and white gear on my quad.

born2ride14
11-25-2009, 12:10 PM
Here you go hans

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Did you get my email?

hanzito
11-25-2009, 02:14 PM
Thanks for putting that up. And yes I replied to your email.

OnTheGas69
11-25-2009, 02:31 PM
Cool build man, looks like it rips!

What kind of tubing were you using?

hanzito
11-26-2009, 01:25 PM
i used clear braided hose form lowes. didnt hold up at all.

hanzito
11-29-2009, 12:33 PM
well good weekend of racing. no major injuries or broken machines. although i did manage to dislocate my tumb hitting vanilla ice. but oh well he is my buddy ill smack him for it later. in the none helmut clips my son is on the all black mini with blue and white gear. the cam is on my sons head in the mini races. it is on my head in the open atv, 2 stroke open, and atv intermidiate, and on the gal i am dating in the chick races.

got some helmut cam videos.

2 stroke atv open heat sat

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/th_2strokeopenheatsat.jpg (http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/?action=view&current=2strokeopenheatsat.flv)


2 stroke atv main sat

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/th_2strokeopenmainfrinight.jpg (http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/?action=view&current=2strokeopenmainfrinight.flv)


chick atv begin main fri night

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/th_chickatvbegmainfri.jpg (http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/?action=view&current=chickatvbegmainfri.flv)

chick atv beg heat sat

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/th_chickatvbegheat.jpg (http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/?action=view&current=chickatvbegheat.flv)

mini atv practice sat

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/th_miniatvadvsatpractice.jpg (http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/?action=view&current=miniatvadvsatpractice.flv)

mini atv heat sat

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/th_miniatvheatsat.jpg (http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/?action=view&current=miniatvheatsat.flv)

mini atv main sat

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/th_miniatvmainsat.jpg (http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/?action=view&current=miniatvmainsat.flv)

pro heat restart sat

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/th_proatvheatrestartsat.jpg (http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/?action=view&current=proatvheatrestartsat.flv)

atv open heat sat

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/th_atvopenheatsat.jpg (http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j237/hansshanks/Flat%20Track%20thanksiving%20double%20header%2009/?action=view&current=atvopenheatsat.flv)