Any 5.0 mustang people out there?

[450rcrazy022692]

I have a 95 Mustang GT with a 5.0 motor in it. Over the winter im looking to redo the whole engine with aftermarket parts. But im not too sure on what good parts are to put on. Im looking to put on heads, cams, manifolds, throttle body, rotating assembly (crank/pistons), valves...maybe some others im missing.

[416exfreak]

Hell.. if you wanna take it down that far then just go ahead and put a stroker kit in it.

331 doesnt need to have the sleeve ground to clear the rod, and wont burn oil as bad as a 347.

AFR's set of 185cc SBF heads are sick, along with an Edelbrock Victor Jr. intake(maybe some port work, at least gasket match the runners), 70mm throttle body, cold air intake, a good mass air meter..

Upgrade the ignition system too. An MSD 6AL w/ a blaster 2 coil, and a set of 8mm plug wires, an MSD distributor so your timing stays accurate.

Depending on your piston settup, you could run a variety of cams. Something with around .570" lift and 108 degrees of duration would have a really nice, aggressive idle, and would pull hard all the way out past where you would want to shift.

You should really go into a mustang forum and just do some research of other peoples 5.0L builds.

The 5.0 in my F100 runs pretty damn strong:D

[XCRacer236]

i have a 5.0 Explorer... does that count? :D

[yfzrider310]

Just drop out the 5.0L and sell it. Then buy and build up a 351W. Then you would have a monster of a car.

[416exfreak]

To build an AOD that will stay behind a 351 based engine takes some $$..

And to put a C6 behind it is just ludacris. His MPG would go down like a bottle of viagra in a nursing home.:chinese:

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by yfzrider310
Just drop out the 5.0L and sell it. Then buy and build up a 351W. Then you would have a monster of a car.


^^^
:macho

Who says he wants an auto.

only way I would drive one is if it were slammed to the ground! crazy low offset wheels, crazy rolled fenders. I would make it look like a JDM drift car lmao

[yfzrider310]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
only way I would drive one is if it were slammed to the ground! crazy low offset wheels, crazy rolled fenders. I would make it look like a JDM drift car lmao

ewwww:eek2:

[Tommy Warren]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
only way I would drive one is if it were slammed to the ground! crazy low offset wheels, crazy rolled fenders. I would make it look like a JDM drift car lmao

Then you need a rice burner not a mustang.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
Then you need a rice burner not a mustang.:rolleyes:

Silvia haters :(

[chris hallett]

The only tranny to get is the Tremec will hold up great,I used to have a pretty built up 89 gt but then came a family,some day will build another Fox body stang.

[sportraxkid]

I would just go with a 351w if your planning on a power adder, a stock block will hold over 700hp and the 94-97 blocks are a roller cam. A stock 302 will split in half between 450-500hp and aftermarket blocks are expensive. The only thing youll need is a different lower intake, oil pan, flywheel, and headers which most of that you would have to buy anyways. I run a windsor in my ssp notch and run 12's all day at 4500ft above sea level on pump gas. Its currantly getting torn apart to turbo it and run 10's. Youll need a decent tranny like a tremec or built auto.

[416exfreak]

If his car is currently an auto, then its going to take some work to convert it to a stick.

A Tremec T56 would go nicely behind a 500+hp windsor though.

[KXRida]

Originally posted by 416exfreak
If his car is currently an auto, then its going to take some work to convert it to a stick.

A Tremec T56 would go nicely behind a 500+hp windsor though.

A roller built C6 would go even nicer. If you're running a strictly drag car, nothing beats a built C6 with roller conversion. Set up correctly, you will physically not be able to shift a manual faster than the C6.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/1672/341/4177670082_large.jpg

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[Tommy Warren]

Originally posted by KXRida
A roller built C6 would go even nicer. If you're running a strictly drag car, nothing beats a built C6 with roller conversion. Set up correctly, you will physically not be able to shift a manual faster than the C6.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/1672/341/4177670082_large.jpg

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Please tell me you didn't waste that motor on that power ranger:confused:

[ZBlaster]

5.0's are for pussies.



My old Foxbody:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/EX075/foxbodyatjohns.jpg

[KXRida]

Originally posted by Tommy Warren
Please tell me you didn't waste that motor on that power ranger:confused:

I'm pretty confident it'll waste that nova you have in your sig without breaking a sweat.

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by ZBlaster
5.0's are for pussies.

Uh huh...

Please enlighten us all how you came across this slanderous filth?

My old man has a '91 GT with a 514. Its not finished yet, but it still looks damn good.:p

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by KXRida
A roller built C6 would go even nicer. If you're running a strictly drag car, nothing beats a built C6 with roller conversion. Set up correctly, you will physically not be able to shift a manual faster than the C6.

I love your brothers truck!

But, I dont think he wants to build a strictly drag car, which is why I said a T-56.

Building an AOD to stay behind that much power gets costly, but with a quick call to lentech, it can be done.

You can't physically shift a standard faster than a propely set up Auto, but a 6 speed sure is a hell of a lot more fun around town or on an autocross course than a C6 would be:p

[ZBlaster]

Originally posted by 416exfreak
Uh huh...

Please enlighten us all how you came across this slanderous filth?

My old man has a '91 GT with a 514. Its not finished yet, but it still looks damn good.:p




Ever seen a N/A, stock block, all-in-all mildly done 302 put out 658whp... and STILL love a 200 wet shot on numerous occasions?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/EX075/foxbody005.jpg

[416exfreak]

A stock 2 bolt block wont hold more than 550hp, and thats with every girdle and stud combo you can find.

Your comparing apples to oranges.

Ever seen an N/A, mostly stock, all-in-all mildly done 460 get better than 5 mpg, and still outrun a done up small block?

See what I mean?

The 306 in my truck runs DAMN respectable. Just because you don't like a 5.0 doesn't mean you have to rag on them and call those who run them "pussies".

Iv'e seen quite a few small blocks that would arse rape your 460

:scary:

EDIT: also, I want to see pics of this "mildly done" 460 putting out 658whp.

Even with a 200hp shot, thats still 450hp roughly, all motor. And having aftermarket heads, intake, etc.. doesn't constitute mildly done.

[ZBlaster]

Originally posted by 416exfreak
A stock 2 bolt block wont hold more than 550hp, and thats with every girdle and stud combo you can find.

Your comparing apples to oranges.

Ever seen an N/A, mostly stock, all-in-all mildly done 460 get better than 5 mpg, and still outrun a done up small block?

See what I mean?

The 306 in my truck runs DAMN respectable. Just because you don't like a 5.0 doesn't mean you have to rag on them and call those who run them "pussies".

Iv'e seen quite a few small blocks that would arse rape your 460

:scary:



Alright dumbass, it was a joke since apparently you can't catch one.

That 460 car was a street car, got 15mpg around town, and ran mid 9's on the bottle. It held it's own nicely. Wasn't my first go around with a Mustang either. In fact I've owned 7 in the last 5 years. I'd say atleast 5 of which would show that little truck of yours their taillights. Hell my old S10 would have gladly done it.

I have NO problems with a 5.0, or any SBF at all. Hell I ran them for 2 seasons in my modified hobby dirt car. I've also built several for different cars over the years. Just sold a 331 I built this summer a few days ago actually.

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by ZBlaster
Alright dumbass, it was a joke since apparently you can't catch one.

That 460 car was a street car, got 15mpg around town, and ran mid 9's on the bottle. It held it's own nicely. Wasn't my first go around with a Mustang either. In fact I've owned 7 in the last 5 years. I'd say atleast 5 of which would show that little truck of yours their taillights. Hell my old S10 would have gladly done it.

I have NO problems with a 5.0, or any SBF at all. Hell I ran them for 2 seasons in my modified hobby dirt car. I've also built several for different cars over the years. Just sold a 331 I built this summer a few days ago actually.

Well, given that text can't emmit emotions.. how could I tell?

But its all good. Fighting on the internet is effin dumb.

My old truck might have surprised you. It tends to like a bottle too.:devil:

[ZBlaster]

Originally posted by 416exfreak

:scary:

EDIT: also, I want to see pics of this "mildly done" 460 putting out 658whp.

Even with a 200hp shot, thats still 450hp roughly, all motor. And having aftermarket heads, intake, etc.. doesn't constitute mildly done. [/B]




658 was on motor, off the bottle.

Car was a 466 had ported/polished D0VE-C heads with big valves, custom ground .602/.612 cam, port matched Victor 460 intake, 870cfm QuickFuel, forged internals, Hooker SuperComp long tubes, 3" mandrel bent, Flowmaster 10 series with turndowns, and much more I'm entirely too lazy to type. Built by Engine Systems in Tucker GA who make stock block 460's push 1000+hp at the flywheel on a daily basis.

[ZBlaster]

Originally posted by 416exfreak
Well, given that text can't emmit emotions.. how could I tell?

But its all good. Fighting on the internet is effin dumb.

My old truck might have surprised you. It tends to like a bottle too.:devil:



4 linked / Mild 355 / TH350 S10

Ran mid-low 11's on a small shot on a 26x10.50 tire. Never took it to the track on bigger than a 75 shot. It was also my DD.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/EX075/91705004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/EX075/8-28-05017.jpg

Kit was not on it on either of the pics as they were from when I was selling it.

[416exfreak]

Damn good looking truck man.

I bet you were sad to see it go.

My trucks not that low, but it does sit nice.

I'll get some good pictures tomorrow if the rain will move on out for a little while.:ermm:

[ZBlaster]

Originally posted by 416exfreak
Damn good looking truck man.

I bet you were sad to see it go.

My trucks not that low, but it does sit nice.

I'll get some good pictures tomorrow if the rain will move on out for a little while.:ermm:




I don't get attached to vehicles any more. The only one I ever really got attached to I totalled being an idiot. Now I just build them, drive them till I'm tired of them, then sell them. Hell right now I drive a nearly stock Titan, I just don't have the motivation to stay in the car game right now.

[jrspawn]

Originally posted by 416exfreak
A stock 2 bolt block wont hold more than 550hp, and thats with every girdle and stud combo you can find.

Your comparing apples to oranges.

Ever seen an N/A, mostly stock, all-in-all mildly done 460 get better than 5 mpg, and still outrun a done up small block?

See what I mean?

The 306 in my truck runs DAMN respectable. Just because you don't like a 5.0 doesn't mean you have to rag on them and call those who run them "pussies".

Iv'e seen quite a few small blocks that would arse rape your 460

:scary:

EDIT: also, I want to see pics of this "mildly done" 460 putting out 658whp.

Even with a 200hp shot, thats still 450hp roughly, all motor. And having aftermarket heads, intake, etc.. doesn't constitute mildly done.

You would be surprised at how much HP a stock block can take. I can tell you they will def. hold more than 550hp. Will it hold up forever though? thats another question... A couple of my blown street cars have pushed out well over that range and could be daily drivers without an issue keeping the boost low(12-14lbs or so.)

Hopefully within the next three weeks i will have my 96 mystic cobra done. Just a little ole 4.6 that should be putting down around 800 give or take some:devil:

[KXRida]

Ran a 12.03 at the track. It's only ever had one track run. Not bad for a truck lifted 8'', 35's, and running a ZF transmission.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/62/l_ee898ca443ed43bcac231258cf4aaee3.jpg

Custom headers are a ****** to make as well...
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z152/Rmrider125/ranger-3.jpg

it's all fun and games until the axle blocks & leafs break and snap your drive shaft and shocks.... then it's expensive.
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[oachs83]

Here is my 1989 GT 5spd. 49,000 miles from Florida.


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You kind of asked a loaded question. The first question to you should have been how much do you want to spend and how streetable do you want it? The great thing about these cars is that the aftermarket parts are endless and fair priced. The possibilities are endless. Dropping a 351w does give more power but remember you will need special exhaust and intake if you want to keep it injected. If you want to keep it streetable a 5.0 is all you really need. I could fill half a page with the list of my mods on this car but to name the basics. It has
GT40x port matched aluminum heads
1993 port matched Cobra intake
TFS stage 1 cam
1.6 roller rockers
1 3/4" long tube headers
Pypes SS exhaust
BBK cold air intake
70mm BBK TB
76mm mass air meter
24lb injectors
etc. etc. etc.

I am getting around 305hp at the wheels with this setup and I have no problem having fun in this car. Tires start to get expensive.

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by jrspawn
You would be surprised at how much HP a stock block can take. I can tell you they will def. hold more than 550hp. Will it hold up forever though? thats another question... A couple of my blown street cars have pushed out well over that range and could be daily drivers without an issue keeping the boost low(12-14lbs or so.)

Well, it really depends what generation the block comes from I suppose.

The 60's blocks were stronger than the 70's blocks, the 80's blocks were stronger than the 90's blocks.

I dont know if there is any truth to it, but they say that the Mexican 5.0 block is thicker and stronger. The only real way to tell is to look in the lifter valley though. It says "Hecho in Mexico".

I've also heard that the reason they're thicker is because they had to compensate for using inferior metals..:chinese:

I know that all motor, a stock 2-bolt block wont hold more than 550hp, and still be daily driven for any amount of time. The compression gets to the main caps and they cant handle the force. With a girdle, they could hold more, but I wouldn't push it.

To each their own, I got my info from reading the last 15 years worth of 5.0&Super Fords and MM&FF magazines..

[oachs83]

I believe the "mexican" blocks had a higher nickel content which made them stronger.

[extremeblastr]

Originally posted by oachs83
I believe the "mexican" blocks had a higher nickel content which made them stronger.

pretty much. the mexican blocks were not actually thicker but the combination of metals used for them was overall stronger than the other stockers available.

[JJs450r]

i have a 93 5.0 and i ve always been told to get good times and hp you need good tires, better heads and intake, my cars has a comp midrange cam, cold air intake, bigger throttle body, fuel pressure regulator, 373 gears, aluminum drive shaft. i ran 14.2 rolling off the line and spinning out past the 60 foot and spinning a little in second

[jrspawn]

You are correct there, an all motor car pushing that much HP on a stock block is an explosion waiting to happen. Thats why i like my little ol small ci engines with a big ol blower! Alot more streetable power if you stay out of it. But then again theres no better feeling then pulling 20+lbs of boost out of a YSI screaming well past 7000rpm and its still wanting to pull like a freight train!!!

If someone was looking to put down serious power and count on reliability, an R, boss, or dart block is the way to go. Any of those will take 1000+hp easily.



Originally posted by 416exfreak
Well, it really depends what generation the block comes from I suppose.

The 60's blocks were stronger than the 70's blocks, the 80's blocks were stronger than the 90's blocks.

I dont know if there is any truth to it, but they say that the Mexican 5.0 block is thicker and stronger. The only real way to tell is to look in the lifter valley though. It says "Hecho in Mexico".

I've also heard that the reason they're thicker is because they had to compensate for using inferior metals..:chinese:

I know that all motor, a stock 2-bolt block wont hold more than 550hp, and still be daily driven for any amount of time. The compression gets to the main caps and they cant handle the force. With a girdle, they could hold more, but I wouldn't push it.

To each their own, I got my info from reading the last 15 years worth of 5.0&Super Fords and MM&FF magazines..