View Full Version : Making some "flexx" type bars
standardryder
08-06-2009, 11:04 AM
I was looking at some flexx bars at work the other day and I thought "hmm I could make those!" Theyre not exactly like the flexx bars but kinda similar. Started em 2 days ago this is what I got so far...
This is the riser with some toolpaths
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n84/standardryder2006/0806091144.jpg
finished...
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n84/standardryder2006/0806091146.jpg
gonna make a few different sizes so see what i like
This is the pivoting mount, havnt gotten a chance to machine it out yet
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n84/standardryder2006/0806091143.jpg
The bottom half of the bars are all done
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n84/standardryder2006/0806091147.jpg
still a lot more work to be done, kinda curious how good theyll work since I'm pretty much pulling off the top of my head. They only thing ill be ordering from flexx are the elastomers.
born2ride14
08-07-2009, 05:56 AM
Thats AWESOME!! The one thing i see that needs to be done is a reinforcement bar that goes from side to side, but you probably no that far yet. Make sure you give us UPDATES
quadbod
08-07-2009, 12:42 PM
Suweeeeet!
dynofox
08-07-2009, 07:35 PM
When will they be available?? :D
Hondaexboy
08-10-2009, 09:42 AM
ill take some!
standardryder
08-10-2009, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by dynofox
When will they be available?? :D
Heh, well fasst could use a little competition :devil:
I haven't decided if Im going to have one big cross bar, or two smaller ones like the flexx bars. Two smaller ones would probably be lighter and just as strong, but its in the works.
this set im working on is just a prototype to make sure everything works. The bottom cross bar is going to be welded in so it doesnt loosen and spin, and i might change up the sweep later on. The cross bar on the real set will be threaded and keyed so all I have to do is make new risers to change the rise. And since the sweep is build into the pivot mount itll be easy to switch it up.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n84/standardryder2006/0810091627a.jpg
hhaceesa
08-10-2009, 05:04 PM
Thats Aswome :cool:
fauxamish
08-10-2009, 05:21 PM
I'll take some too, lol! I just shattered my wrist and was looking at getting some flexx bars, but they are quite a bit of $$. I would much rather support someone on here.
BlaineKaiser450
08-10-2009, 07:13 PM
really sick!!!
Wood_15
08-11-2009, 11:35 AM
Looks good! Try to avoid the troubles that atv fourplay had with fasst company. I'm not sure how it ended but there were some issues with patent infrigement or copyright? Something like that.
Originally posted by Wood_15
Looks good! Try to avoid the troubles that atv fourplay had with fasst company. I'm not sure how it ended but there were some issues with patent infrigement or copyright? Something like that.
I don't think it's patent infrigment to make one for yourself. Where you get into trouble is trying to put it into production, and selling it for profit.
motomxman450
08-11-2009, 02:28 PM
those are sick... that software looks great. keep us updated
Wood_15
08-12-2009, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Scro
I don't think it's patent infrigment to make one for yourself. Where you get into trouble is trying to put it into production, and selling it for profit.
Yep, your correct. If its for personal use you are usually fine. Once resale gets involved it becomes a little more complicated. I was just giving a heads up, since I saw that people were interested in them.
fauxamish
08-12-2009, 06:55 PM
What if I was testing a "prototype" and paid him, say, $75 (or whatever) for "shipping"...
standardryder
08-13-2009, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by fauxamish
What if I was testing a "prototype" and paid him, say, $75 (or whatever) for "shipping"...
haha there ya go! But I think I'd have to make some major differences before I could sell them and avoid a lawsuit. Its too bad I dont have my own cnc machines Ive made all sorts of parts that could sell for way less other brands... wave rotors, handguard mounts, bar clamps etc... hmm maybe I should start looking?
fauxamish
08-13-2009, 02:58 PM
Yours are shiny though. Thats why I want them lol.
motomxman450
08-13-2009, 06:43 PM
If you got your own cnc machine I think you could make some big bucks
fauxamish
08-14-2009, 08:31 AM
I would think that as long as he didn't advertise them (like in sale section), Flexx wouldn't know. Probably the fact that this thead is started though... If standardryder pm'ed us a price, we could start a flexx bar black market lol
woodsracer144
08-23-2009, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by standardryder
Heh, well fasst could use a little competition :devil:
I haven't decided if Im going to have one big cross bar, or two smaller ones like the flexx bars. Two smaller ones would probably be lighter and just as strong, but its in the works.
this set im working on is just a prototype to make sure everything works. The bottom cross bar is going to be welded in so it doesnt loosen and spin, and i might change up the sweep later on. The cross bar on the real set will be threaded and keyed so all I have to do is make new risers to change the rise. And since the sweep is build into the pivot mount itll be easy to switch it up.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n84/standardryder2006/0810091627a.jpg
not to bark but those look just like FASST set up... whats changed?
quadbod
08-24-2009, 02:10 PM
Any more progress?
Honda 250r 001
08-28-2009, 08:10 PM
how much you want for a set? haha
Honda 250r 001
08-28-2009, 08:10 PM
how much you want for a set? haha
yates42
08-31-2009, 08:49 PM
Hey standard can you pm me. its not really about the bars.
Thanks.
Toadz400
09-03-2009, 08:02 PM
Look up the Flexx patent(s). You may be able to find a loophole. I believe they were fairly vague on their patent though, which makes it nearly impossible to create something that isn't similar. They basically patented the aspect of an absorber handlebar is what I read. Therefore no matter what design you made it would be using their idea. I did not look it up to find out if that is true though.
I'd redesign the riser fitting's with vertical slots to allow the cross bar to slide up and down to allow for verticle adjustment, (just take the slot you got further up and slot the bolt hole) add a machined slot on the flange 90 degree to this slot for a slotted index pin/or nut bolt at different cross bar locations. Open the forks on the Riser fitting's that pin the pivot fitting and allow for spacers for foward and rear adjustment.
That will take you away from the flex design. Also what series of aluminum are you using?
standardryder
09-04-2009, 01:21 PM
Sorry been slacking on the updates but I've been busy at work and sadly that comes first. But theyre almost done, all the machining is finished just have to get a few things welded and then powdercoat em. Ill have to look into the patent thing, I wouldnt mind building a few more and getting them out but it would have to be 100% legal. As for the material, its kindof a "mutt" made out of whatever i had laying around, mostly 6061 and 7071 aluminum and 303 stainless.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n84/standardryder2006/0904091040.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n84/standardryder2006/0904091041.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n84/standardryder2006/0904091043.jpg
born2ride14
09-04-2009, 09:01 PM
SOOOOO SICK! thats awesome you have the cnc machine access and the knowledge, pretty sweet man!
quadbod
09-05-2009, 01:18 AM
Nice work, man.
motofreak2772
09-05-2009, 03:14 PM
Those look exactly like flasst's. you should have tried out some new designs or ideas. Atleast try a different spring/bushing system.
I've been designing structure for over 25 years in Aerospace Engineering(machine part design) you need some help just ask I'd be glad to help! :D
Your very talanted with your hands designing is not easy. Good job though I like your drawing, what program are you using autocad? I use Catia V4 and V5(currently) and NASTRAN/PACTRAN for stress analysis.
standardryder
09-06-2009, 07:40 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by motofreak2772
Those look exactly like flasst's. you should have tried out some new designs or ideas. Atleast try a different spring/bushing system. [/QUOTE
Well, like I said in my very first post, I was looking at some flexx bars and decided I was going to try to make them. I made them, now Ill see how they work and maybe come up with a new design. I guarantee theyre not exactly the same as fasst's (I'm pretty sure they wouldnt send me a blueprint even if I asked nicely) all the dimensions are my own and theres a few little things that I changed that I fell are better/stronger.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TNT
I've been designing structure for over 25 years in Aerospace Engineering(machine part design) you need some help just ask I'd be glad to help! :D
Your very talanted with your hands designing is not easy. Good job though I like your drawing, what program are you using autocad? I use Catia V4 and V5(currently) and NASTRAN/PACTRAN for stress analysis. [/QUOTE
Thanks for the offer! I'm currently using mastercam X4. It's not the greatest software for drafting but its awesome for the cnc program creating part, which is more what its designed for. The good thing about it is I can take almost any cad file from any drafting program, import it in and write up a cnc program for it. If I do end up designing something new and sent you an assembly drawing would you be able to run it through your stress testing program?
[i]If I do end up designing something new and sent you an assembly drawing would you be able to run it through your stress testing program? [/B]
No because it's at work I don't own the software and you need some loads from stress/strain gages on the bars from testing, but I can do some hand calculations based on material allowables(Goggle MMPDS/PDF file and look at the Yeild/Compression/Tensile, etc....in pounds of strength of your material to get an idea) or I'll help you do them on something this simple. Keep up the good work.
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