The 250R Club

[Nahum]

I joined the 250R club today! This is my new ride ... Up to now I was riding a fully built Houser Z440. The 250R is a totally unknown territory to me. The only thing I know is that I have to do a rebuild ...

The previous owner told me that this frame is a "Philips"-Frame!? Never heard of that. I searched this forum but I couldn´t find anything about a "Philips"-Frame??????

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2876/kiste47.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9831/kiste48.jpg

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/112/kiste49.jpg

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/9369/kiste52.jpg

[thedeatons]

I like white frames.

Welcome to the club. You won't miss the valve train rebuilds or the extra weight.

James

[deathman53]

It doesn't look too bad, I see you don't have a case saver, get one before you break the cases and maybe a more knarly set of pegs would be nice. Its easy to do, get a manual, torque wrench, torque adapter(12mm and 14mm, from motion pro), gaskets and new piston to the next overbore size(if you need a new bore) or set of rings. I find myself always riding my 250r. I rode my hybrid today and it didn't get me excited as the r does.

[05LSR250R]

Nice R for a first timer! Congrats! Wow....havent heard the name Phillips in coons age! Are you located overseas or in the states?

[woodsracer144]

that is one weird old school quad... have any more pics?

[Nahum]

Yeah I´m from overseas (Europe). I searched the whole night and finally found Christophe´s QOTM

http://www.atvriders.com/qotm/quadofthemonth2008-04-white-laeger-honda-trx-250r-atv.html

Christophe´s frame:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3861/christophesframe.jpg

His frame nearly looks the same as mine. If noone ever heard the name "Phillips"-Frame I think a Phillips-Frame doesn´t exist. This must also be a Lonestar Pro-Peg frame!?

The only difference are the nerfbar mountings. I´m confused ...

I got this few photos from the previous owner when he rebuilt the 250R.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4034/frame1.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2682/frame2o.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5892/frame3.jpg

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/85/frame4n.jpg

Can someone definitely tell me what kind of frame I have?

If you look at my frame I have some gussets done near the radiator mounts.

Moreover I can tell that I have Leagers a-arms and a Leagers swingarm and an LSR excalibar axle ...

[800screws]

phillips did make frames...actually whole quads...i have a few articles in old dirt wheels where they built whole race quads with ktm 550 2 strokes, rotaxs 250 2 strokes.....
they made the entire quad, except like plastic and a few other odds and ends...

and they were based overseas.

[leager-n-ky]

Yes Phillips made some very nice quads, I think I remember them and Duncan Racing teaming together for the big 12 hour race in France (i'm not going to try and spell it). Yes they were a European company.

[headache]

Nice quad. I think your going to be glad you switched to a "R"

[Nahum]

phillips did make frames...actually whole quads...i have a few articles in old dirt wheels where they built whole race quads with ktm 550 2 strokes, rotaxs 250 2 strokes..... they made the entire quad, except like plastic and a few other odds and ends...


Yes Phillips made some very nice quads, I think I remember them and Duncan Racing teaming together for the big 12 hour race in France (i'm not going to try and spell it). Yes they were a European company.

This is interesting ... Thank you for that information!

I searched for some new nerfbars but as it seems this will be a first problem. You don´t get nerfsbars today that bolt up right to that frame ... :(

And I would need new plastics. There are so many spots that are broken. I searched this forum and it seems as if some fullbore will be fine.

[leager-n-ky]

I have some AC racing Pro peg nerf's that I took off my Laeger, Give me the measurments between each mount center to center.

[Nahum]

@leager-n-ky

Thanks for your help. I will post the measurements next weekend cause I have to leave home in a few hours to go to work. During the whole week, I´m not at home due to my work ...



Moreover I found out that the builder of that frame (Phillips) was a company based in England but unfortunately doesn´t exist any longer.

[05LSR250R]

Originally posted by leager-n-ky
Yes Phillips made some very nice quads, I think I remember them and Duncan Racing teaming together for the big 12 hour race in France (i'm not going to try and spell it). Yes they were a European company.

Yep! Hes right! They aleays teamed up with Duncan for those races back in the day! They also had many entries that were either Phillips quads or were prepped by Phillips! Big name overseas! Or at least they were! Havent heard much about them in a long time! I'd say you have quite a rare chassiss sittin right there! I doubt theres any over here in the states!

[Nahum]

Maybe "800screws" can post a scan of that Dirt Wheels issue that deals with the Phillips quads ...

[05LSR250R]

I might have those issues also! I'll have to check on Monday! Steppin out to go see the Mayhem Fest here in a minute! Im sure I got them in a box in the attic! If I find anything on them I will scan and post the articles!

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by Nahum
Maybe "800screws" can post a scan of that Dirt Wheels issue that deals with the Phillips quads ...

you took the words right out of my mouth!

[quad janern]

Originally posted by 800screws
phillips did make frames...actually whole quads...i have a few articles in old dirt wheels where they built whole race quads with ktm 550 2 strokes, rotaxs 250 2 strokes.....
they made the entire quad, except like plastic and a few other odds and ends...

and they were based overseas.

Wow, 550cc 2 stroke you say ?
That must be a fast machine :eek2:

[deathman53]

I rode a 490 and holy cow it was fast, tons of torque too. I could just imagine a 550!! If its a dirtbike motor w/o counter balancer, it would rattle alot. Atk still makes a 700cc 2 stroke, that has got to be alot to ride. I seen a guy on a cr500 climb some monster hills and he did them w/o going beyond 1/2 throttle.

[quad janern]

Yes im 100% sure that the engine is from a ktm dirtbike. Ktm 550 M/XC
http://gaspipe.smugmug.com/photos/403052429_XpCsi-S.jpg
and im pretty sure it does not have a counter balancer.

Yep, the new ATK big bores are cool =D
I read somewhere where they stated that the ATK 620cc was more violent than the 700, even when the 700 has more hp.

[quad janern]

I actually found a video of a 250R with KTM 550 engine in it.
Too bad he dont show us some action of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uh5LKagloI&feature=related

[quad janern]

That quad is actually a Philips i think. Look at the seat cover.

[rockingkfarms]

The quad in the youtube video is a Phillips. I remember these, but details are sketchy. I have the Dirtwheels that these were featured in and will get back with better details. And yes, they Raced at Pont de Veaux...

[dustinshuler]

back in the late 90s a guy from over seas named Paul Winrow and his dad came over and contested the whole national MX and TT series. He was a great rider and won some TT heat races in the pro class and even won a moto at muddycreek in the pro class against the best in the world. The white and purple combo was very common for these machines and most all I ever saw had purple maier plastic with white hoods and frames. They flat hauled ***. Also back in the day I remember a company called Phillip Charles Leasure that were really well known at the Pont Dea Vue races and yes they did team up with Duncan. I dont know if theres any relation or not between the two.

[Nahum]

Hi guys - thank you for that informations! But we also need the DirtWheels scans PLEASE!!!

[rockingkfarms]

Paul Winrow did race the Phillips in the Nationals as well as overseas mx and Pont de Vaux. The Phillips cam with purple Maier plastic, blue IMS tanks, blue seats, WP shocks, and pink, blue, or white frames. The motors were either a 500 or 550 non counterbalanced KTM! The a-arms and swingarm were three position adjustable. They were marketed as "Superquads" and priced between $10,000 and $11,500 in the mid '90's.

[rockingkfarms]

Philip Charles Racing was Europe's biggest distributor of Paul Turner/Duncan Racing products. They built/assembled the Pont de Vaux Banshees with riders such as Eichner and Erhardt on board. I am not certain, but I don't think PCR had anything to do with the Phillips company.

[Nahum]

Today I found this braket. Obviously a screw or a bolt is missing! It seems to be a braket of the swingarm. Hope the missing screw or bolt is not important! Hope this braket is not bent cause it´s not eye to eye with the hole of the engine mount.
http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8521,braketjpgB6X5Q.jpg


Moreover I discovered this brakets under the gas tank. Don´t know for what this brakets are???
http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8522,braket2jpg9Y2WC.jpg


@leager-n-ky
Now I took some photos of the nerfbars and measured the distance center to center between the 2 mounting spots:
http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8523,nerfs1jpgTXGTY.jpg

http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8524,nerfs2jpg5LXIS.jpg

Maybe I can cut off this part of the old nerfbars. I would also have to cut off the footpegs. Maybe the remaining tube will fit into new AC nerfbars like this ... don´t know
http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8525,nerfs3jpgQLHQQ.jpg
http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8526,nerfs3ajpgRGLIS.jpg

This guy also has AC nerfbars which are bolted to the frame ...
http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8527,nerfs3bjpgR2C1T.jpg

http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8528,nerfs4jpgYPND5.jpg

[leager-n-ky]

The bracket is part of the headstay, with a steering stabalizer mount. The stabalizer mounts there, then onto the stem.

[leager-n-ky]

The blue K&K 250r is a stock frame with a mounting piece that takes the place of the foot peg, so you can use Pro pegs on the stock frame.

[deathman53]

that bolt missing from the back of the motor is very important, its the rear motor mount, there should be one of the bottom and another on the top, both go the that center piece of the swingarm on bolts.

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by rockingkfarms
Paul Winrow did race the Phillips in the Nationals as well as overseas mx and Pont de Vaux. The Phillips cam with purple Maier plastic, blue IMS tanks, blue seats, WP shocks, and pink, blue, or white frames. The motors were either a 500 or 550 non counterbalanced KTM! The a-arms and swingarm were three position adjustable. They were marketed as "Superquads" and priced between $10,000 and $11,500 in the mid '90's.

alright! i want to see some dang pics of these things! because that is just ****in nuts... a 550 2 stroke... thats just askin for death! and a really big case of arm pump!

[Nahum]

The blue K&K 250r is a stock frame with a mounting piece that takes the place of the foot peg, so you can use Pro pegs on the stock frame.

Ok and where can I buy such a "mounting piece"???

Here again I found a similar photo with AC nerfs and such a "mounting piece" but I can´t find it on the AC homepage!?

http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8536,acaltebefestigung2jpgPCBON.jpg

Moreover I have some further question: There is a small rubber piece that saves the frame not to contact the chain. There are two mouting spots on the frontside and backside. On the backside you can see something like a small pin that holds the rubber piece. Maybe this pin is worn or rubbed off. This is totally missing on the frontside. On the frontside the rubber piece is held by a wire strap. Maybe there was also something like a pin or even an bolt when the frame was new. Does a OEM 250R frame also have such a rubber piece? If it is so how is this rubber piece mounted? By bolts/screws???

Backside
http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8534,begutachtung05jpgN7HWG.jpg

Frontside
http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8535,begutachtung07jpgOU50O.jpg

[rockingkfarms]

Sorry guys. At this point in time I do not have a scanner. If I get one in the future, I have all the old magazines and some 90's GNCC and local XC race pictures.

[leager-n-ky]

Watch ebay for the footpeg mounts, I thought I posted a link in the beginning of this thread to one that was for sale.

The chain buffer or swingarm protector, where that zip tie is running through that hole, there should be a bolt hole right under it, look and see if the bolt is broke off in the frame right there.

[leager-n-ky]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-TRX250R-TRX-250R-250-R-AC-Pro-Peg-%20Mounts_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em 14Q%3Cbr%20/%3E%20QhashZitem2a0016c522QQitemZ180390118690QQptZ Motors%3Cbr%20/%3EQ5fATVQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories


Here it is, but looking at your frame, I dont think this will work.

[312R1]

[i]

Moreover I have some further question: There is a small rubber piece that saves the frame not to contact the chain. There are two mouting spots on the frontside and backside. On the backside you can see something like a small pin that holds the rubber piece. Maybe this pin is worn or rubbed off. This is totally missing on the frontside. On the frontside the rubber piece is held by a wire strap. Maybe there was also something like a pin or even an bolt when the frame was new. Does a OEM 250R frame also have such a rubber piece? If it is so how is this rubber piece mounted? By bolts/screws???
[ [/B]


There should be a bolt holding it on, on the top where yours is zip tied.

-Steve

[Nahum]

I ordered a ATVFourplay Softbar a few months ago for my Z440 but it seems to fit perfect to the 250R OEM steering stem ... :D

http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8551,softbar01jpgGOE6U.jpg

http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8552,softbar03jpg3ZF8B.jpg

[fastrnrik]

Originally posted by woodsracer144
alright! i want to see some dang pics of these things! because that is just ****in nuts... a 550 2 stroke... thats just askin for death! and a really big case of arm pump!

I have a friend who has a Phillips "superquad". The whole purple deal...ugly as hell! lol I think he has white plastics on it now. It has the KTM 550 motor in it. I've rode it. It's retarded fast, but it does vibrate something fierce! The left hand kick starter is weird too! haha
He had the motor done in it, and the piston for that KTM motor cost like $400 or $500, and it took AWHILE to get.
He actually wants to sell it. I thought about buying it, but don't really know what I'd do with it.

[leager-n-ky]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-250R-TRX250R-AC-RACING-PRO-PEG-NERF-BARS-88-89_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhas hZitem3354a67a54QQitemZ220463528532QQptZMotorsQ5fA TVQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

This is the bracket you need for pro pegs on your frame.

[Nahum]

@leager-n-ky
Thank you! I contacted Aaron!

[Nahum]

I had bad luck! I didn´t get those mounts on ebay! The nerfs and the mounts were sold locally in the US.
I think AC doesn´t sell those mounts any longer. So if someone have the same mounts to sell and the mounts are in good shape and not rusted I will buy them ...

http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8580,mountsjpgUQX6F.jpg

[deathman53]

AC sells the blackline nerfs for 88/89 and those use the same adapters. You probably need to call them.

[05LSR250R]

I have the brackets you need for your nerfs! Pay for the shipping and their yours! PM me1

[Nahum]

@05LSR250R
Thank you for the offer! PM sent ...

[Nahum]

I also now contacted AC and asked if they still sell the brakets/mounts for the 88/89 frame which I need. I also asked if the the 250R brakets also fit other nerfbars from AC for example the TRX450R nerfbars with heelguards.
They sent me this answer:


yes we do make them and we can send them over seas. you will need to contact sales for pricing and avalibility. they fit to the inside of our nerf bar tubing.

This is great! I think I´m gonna buy totally new brakets from AC ...
http://acracing.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=1556

[Nahum]

Some training hours ... photos from the weekend:

It was quite exciting. It was the second time riding a 2stroke engine. Unfortunately I´m still not used to this 2strokes cause I´m loosing to much speed in the corners. I have to rev it high, I know ... Moreover I´m missing the 50" width of my LTZ in the corners. My 250R only uses stock width at the moment.

http://www.kw-motoparts.de/frod_klein9.jpg

http://www.kw-motoparts.de/frod_klein10.jpg

http://www.kw-motoparts.de/frod_klein11.jpg

http://www.kw-motoparts.de/frod_klein12.jpg

[Honda 250r 001]

dude! That top pic is going on the back ground! THats AWESOME!

[Nahum]

@Honda 250r 001
Here you can download the photo in a much bigger size (resolution 1280x1024)

http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/8758,dsroostinjpgRS110.jpg

[rustyATV]

Originally posted by Nahum
Some training hours ... photos from the weekend:

It was quite exciting. It was the second time riding a 2stroke engine. Unfortunately I´m still not used to this 2strokes cause I´m loosing to much speed in the corners. I have to rev it high,

You'll need to learn how to drag the clutch in corners to keep your RPM's up. Two Stroke clutches are designed for this so don't worry about wearing it out early.

[woodsracer144]

what he said! ^^ i always feather it a quick time about half ways out... also learn style... it sounds kinda dumb but 4 strokes you can kinda just thung along and not work... like a few corners at my place there a few corners that i just slam thefront brakes in and kick up the rear end and push to the left(its a right had turn) shift my body around and just pin it though the corner... all i know is i grew up on 2 strokers i had a blaster and rode that to hell and back and then i got a 250r that was set up for tt and i sold it because it didnt run like it should in the woods...

take some time... i think its about style... and how you do things every one has their own little tricks and thing that they do...

[jc217]

That top pic is awesome! An old 250R in a recent race roosting the crap out of a fourstroke. Classic!

For just having switched to a blue smoker I'd say you're doing great. Like these guys said, don't be afraid of slipping the clutch.

[woodsracer144]

welcom to the fourms!:D

[Britboy]

Originally posted by rockingkfarms
Philip Charles Racing was Europe's biggest distributor of Paul Turner/Duncan Racing products. They built/assembled the Pont de Vaux Banshees with riders such as Eichner and Erhardt on board. I am not certain, but I don't think PCR had anything to do with the Phillips company.

Correct! no relation to Philip Charles Racing (now ATV World)

The Phillips company was formed by son and father Kevin Phillips in England. Kevin was an established rider and him, Paul Winrow and my cousin Richard Cole all had pretty decent success on the Phillips bike. THey didnt run the 500 much more the 250 and it had a Rotax motor in it.

THey did build one bike that came with a World GP Sidecar motor in it- that was a Krauser 500 (4 YZ125 motors bolted together!) it was a 140 HP!!!!!! LOL

i have pics and will post when i find them

[Britboy]

no kickstarter- the fly wheel was so small and had an open case you could fire it off with a small roll on the back of your boot :eek2:

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an original Phillips 500

[Nahum]

@Britboy
Thank you for that great info and the photos!

But why went the Phillips company down? Why did they stop producing?

[Britboy]

Originally posted by Nahum
@Britboy
Thank you for that great info and the photos!

But why went the Phillips company down? Why did they stop producing?

i'm not 100% sure. I would guess once Kevin stopped racing, and the big chassis manufacturers Laegers, LSR etc got going and could build more frames faster. Phillips was literally a 2 man company

[woodsracer144]

i dont know about you but that 4 cyled 125 motor thing is just asking for death!

[quad janern]

[i](4 YZ125 motors bolted together!) it was a 140 HP!!!!!! LOL

[/B]

Dang :eek2: That must be one hell of an racer. Awesome pictures ! Thanks!

[Nahum]

Hi guys,

having trouble again ... found out that the tube between the airfilter box and the carb has a big crack ... tried to order a OEM spare part but unfortunately Honda told me the this tube will no longer be offered :confused:

So what can I do?
Does the 400EX or 450R tube fit or even a tube from another brand model like Suzuki, Yamaha, ...
Do you have other suggestions?

Thanks for any replies!

http://www.andreas-haberl.de/misc/schlauch.jpg

[deathman53]

here is a place that has them. The first one is the 86 tube, no resonator, its preffered by alot of people. The second is the 87-89 tube. If for some reason they don't have it, they are usually current on if/not available parts. I have several 87 tubes, used but good. Everybody I know,uses 86 tubes, less places for air leaks.

http://www.babbittsonline.com/pages/parts/viewbybrand/parts.aspx


SKU: 17253-HB9-000
TUBE, AIR CLEANER CONNECTING (Honda Code 2301257) 1 $42.58 Add to Cart

SKU: 17253-HB9-670
TUBE, AIR CLEANER CONNECTING (Honda Code 2461960) 1 $42.58

[troybilt]

Nahum,

welcome to the party!

All,
About what timeframe was the DW article on the Phillips quad? I've got all the DW and 3&4 wheel action mags, from the 90's. I can scan it in, but I don't want to search forever, thru my mags, I have them in rough order.

I'll scan the article on the Krauser quad, I just saw it the other night when I was flipping thru some articles. I didn't know what it was at the time.

[Nahum]

@troybilt
Thank you, but I unfortunately don´t know which DW issue deals with the phillips quad ...

[Nahum]

Need help again.
I tried Babbitts to get that air cleaner connecting tube but the problem is that they only accept US based credit cards. I don´t have one cause I´m from overseas.

So does someone know another dealer where I can order the tube!? Please give me some advice! Thanks!



http://www.andreas-haberl.de/misc/tube.jpg

[troybilt]

Do you have a paypal account? Most of those internet based parts depots use paypal too.

Nevermind... just go here they say they accept International orders on their page:

http://www.servicehonda.com/parts.html

They have a similar microfiche system as Babbits, plus I think they are cheaper :macho

[Nahum]

Thank you but they claim a $150 minimum order value (look at the FAQs). That´s to much. I just need that rubber tube and nothing more ... :(

Any more suggestions?

[troybilt]

Did you try ebay? Sometimes they'll ship international.

[Nahum]

Well, the conclusion of all my research is that I have to try to get a used one that is in good shape. You won´t get this item any longer as an OEM part!



So, is someone one here willing to sell such a tube to me?
Thank you!

[leager-n-ky]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-250R-INTAKE-AIR-BOOT-TO-BOX-SYSTEM-HIGH-FLOW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d268aa5e1QQitemZ4 00078579169QQptZMotorsQ5fATVQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-TRX-250r-Fourtrax-Complete-Air-Box-filter-Tubes_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2a0204d19dQQitemZ 180422496669QQptZMotorsQ5fATVQ5fPartsQ5fAccessorie s


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/K-N-UNIVERSAL-FIT-AIR-FILTER-ATV-MOTORCYCLE-TRX-250R_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d26d32248QQitemZ4 00083329608QQptZMotorsQ5fATVQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Try these.............................

[All250R]

Honda quit making the tubes and stock ran out earlier this year. I have a guy who manufacturers rubber parts with PDX's old 86 boot in his hand who's supposed to be getting a re-manufacture produced this year. He's had some personal problems though, so he's delayed by how long I'm not sure, but hopefully will have something soon enough.

The new boot will feature a slightly straighter tube around the frame bend. That should help reduce turbulence and inertia loss - can't hurt. The rubber is supposed to be a higher quality than the OEM rubber, staying flexible longer.

For some of these slower moving Honda parts that Honda has discontinued, guys like us need to find people to manufacture replacements.

[Nahum]

@leager-n-ky & All250R
Thank you for the informations! :)

[Nahum]

Got my new "used" tube today. I cleaned it up and it looks like a new OEM part.

Thanks again to Andy who sold me the tube!

http://www.andreas-haberl.de/misc/tube2a.jpg

http://www.andreas-haberl.de/misc/tube3.jpg

[Nahum]

Now I want to replace the rear hubs with new ones.
Up to now I found RPM or LSR hubs. Are there any further 250R rear hub manufacturer? What kind of rear hubs would you suggest? Thanks for your advice!

RPM
http://www.team-rpm.com/images/11.gif

LSR
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4187h66p7AL._SS500_.jpg

[deathman53]

Durablue also sells the hubs, Team might still also. I have taper-lock lsr hubs, they don't come loose at all. I also have old-school lsr hubs, they have a washer in it and it locks to the splines via a pinch bolt, the crappy part about is they are american thread and nuts.

[Nahum]

Oh thank you. I red that the Team hubs will only fit Team axles :grr:

The description of the Durablue hubs sounds pretty good ...


Durablue has perfected a fiber-reinforced Aluminum Wheel Hub with an exclusive "cast around" steel insert for superior spline wear and strength. No other aluminum wheel hub on the market can hold up to DuraBlue hubs because all other wheel hubs have aluminum splines which wear out very easily. These hubs are the best choice for competitive riding where reliability and strengh are a must!

I hope the Durablue hubs will fit every typ of axle. Can´t find any notice on the homepage that they won´t. So will the Durablue hubs e.g. fit a RPM Dominator Axle?

Durablue hubs +1
http://www.durablue.com/uploads/images/285__orig.jpg

Standard size
http://www.durablue.com/uploads/images/286__orig.jpg

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by deathman53
Durablue also sells the hubs, Team might still also. I have taper-lock lsr hubs, they don't come loose at all. I also have old-school lsr hubs, they have a washer in it and it locks to the splines via a pinch bolt, the crappy part about is they are american thread and nuts.

when have you ever broke a oem one? if you have i would like to see it... i dont know i've ever hear of it, i've heard of the holes stripping out on them... just need to pop in new studs...

[Nahum]

Some upgrade stuff for the R

http://www.bilderspace.de/bild.php/9749,dwtkendajpgG9DNL.jpg

[Nahum]

Got my new RPM rear wheel hubs today. They look great. I´m very satisfied.

http://www.andreas-haberl.de/misc/hubsrpm.jpg

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by Britboy
no kickstarter- the fly wheel was so small and had an open case you could fire it off with a small roll on the back of your boot :eek2:

what year was that built? did they race it?

[Nahum]

Got a new piece of the puzzle today ...



http://www.andreas-haberl.de/misc/dominator2_1.jpg

[Nahum]

I intend to buy new wider a-arms. I thought of a set of +4+1 Laegers. I have to use the stock collars, bushings and dust seals. The problem is that those parts are from the year 1986 and worn.
I need new ones but this would cost me nearly $400 :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: OMG :huh

http://www.andreas-haberl.de/misc/aarm250r.jpg

Any suggestions!?!? Thanks!

[slamdak8782]

Try Pivot works. Probably be a lot cheaper.

[Nahum]

Thank you!!!
Someone other mentioned AllBalls. Don´t know. Seems as if the Pivot Works Kit also contains needle bearings. They are not included in the AllBall-Set.

[86 Quad R]

try these guys out. Bushings (http://atvbushings.com/)