Anybody have a TRUE CRF frame from Laeger?

[250Renvy]

I need a measurement from a TRUE CRF Laeger frame.

I know they are super rare, but does anybody know if there is a member on here that has one?

I'm not referring to any of the CT built Laegers either.

[jesse olea]

i have one i'm in rebuild mode right now let me know what you need

[250Renvy]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i289/250Renvy/DSCN3574.jpg


I need a measurement like in the picture - from the rear bolt hole to the pivot bolt.

I could actually also use a diameter of the pivot bolt hole - does it use a 250R pivot bolt or something else?

[jesse olea]

my frame is different i have an 03 it has the tubeing going across that holds the two billet front motor mounts i think your is the first ones that laeger build sorry i can't help you, good luck

[250Renvy]

Yeah, that would be a CT built CRF. I know they are fairly rare, but the TRUE CRF's have the same type of front mount.

[jesse olea]

my bike was built by laeger your propably referring to the front billet motor mounts that were built by ct for laeger. ctracing is 15mins. from my house and i'v been going their for years trust me allen knowles bought the jigs from mark laeger but didnt build but one or two crfs if that. i think your is an 01 or 02 and mines is the later year 03 with the ct motor mounts

[250Renvy]

Jesse, it's funny how people have different info.

I had a number of long conversations with Mark and he said he only built a couple and the rest were built after Allen bought the jigs. He also told me he didn't make them with the loop like you have but with mounts similar to the 250R.

Oh well, could be both as I think there are only a half dozen or more out there that are not conversions. I know Dave Herron built a bunch too.

My frame is actually not a CRF frame, it's a aircooled motor frame for either a 250X 350X or something from 98. I want to see if the original Laeger CRF's have the same distance cause these mounts are 1" closer to the pivot bolt than a regular 250R.

[jesse olea]

the only one i seen on here like the one your refering to i think was over in england and i think it might have been forsale on ebay or on this hybrid thred i'm not sure anyways good luck and that frame you have is propably more rare than these crfs if you need any help let me know i'll be more than happy to lend a hand

p.s the measurement from the tube to the swinger pivet point is 15.5 inches if that helps

[quadpornstar]

the frame in the picture is a 250r frame. there where no original laeger crf's built with a narrow front. I have an orginal. one of 6 or something like that. I believe protrax has one too. and there is a guy from england that has one.

[quadpornstar]

to be clear, kinda confusing once i re-read lol: the frame in the first pic, with the arrow and missing dimension, is the r frame. the pic I posted, is the original :-)

[judecrf]

i am the guy from england actually ireland but it is the bike in question its one of the six.all measure up tomorrow and get back to u.

[quadpornstar]

Hey judecrf, I know we were talking there for a bit, I was trying to remember what you told me, on who you got your laeger from. Did you say you had gotten it from JRSpawn?

[jrspawn]

Originally posted by quadpornstar
Hey judecrf, I know we were talking there for a bit, I was trying to remember what you told me, on who you got your laeger from. Did you say you had gotten it from JRSpawn?

He didnt get his laeger from me. I believe the one he has was owned by someone over in the UK that sold it.

[jesse olea]

hey guys take a look at this on ebay idem # 190316236116 frame look a lot differnt than quadpornstars it also has a vin #

[250Renvy]

Thanks Jesse.

I've seen a couple like that. That's exactly like how Mark told me he built them.

I'm going to contact him to see if he can get a measurement.

[judecrf]

no didnt get it from jrspawn although i mite be getting the laeger he sent to ireland.yes my bike is the uk bike it was the first proper crf that atv world built for a guy called chris murphy.and is supposed to be a proper 02 mark laeger frame .

[quadpornstar]

that picture of farrs bike is crazy. thats the first one I have ever seen like that. I have seen many with the CT mounts, very few like mine and judecrfs, and thats the first like that. I wish we could get Mark Laeger on the horn here and see what's what.

The FARR quad could still be a conversion tho, even tho it has a Laeger tag on it, it coud have been a 250r that was converted. If I'm not mistaken, Laegers was converting some of the R's to run the CRF engine

Kind of neat tho, FARRs quad, and all the laeger bikes are kind of pieces of history. That has been a lot of races won on Laegers quads

[protrax]

Here is mine I bought it new I ordered it in 02 and picked it up Feb 03 It was definitelly made by Mark for sure . I smile whenever I walk in my garage and see my baby . this 1 will stay with me forever .

03 Season
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p125/protrax/laegerscrf4503.jpg

[protrax]

back in 02 a buddy of mine converted a 350RX chassis to fit a CRF in , biked worked well . The frame looked similar to yours.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p125/protrax/100_0127_0001-1.jpg

[laeger2fiddyr]

Here is mine I bought it new I ordered it in 02 and picked it up Feb 03 It was definitelly made by Mark for sure . I smile whenever I walk in my garage and see my baby . this 1 will stay with me forever .


lets see some more pics of it!!! how about some pics of your walsh crf & walsh 250r???

[quadpornstar]

hey protrax thats a sweet one, looks like you are running 4-1 wheels? I'm assuming you're running a +4 a-arm length? I was wondering if you were able to get the correct camber? On my +4 t pin, the upper arms were to short, I would run out of thread, no room for the nut. Did you have this problem?

I am having a buddy of mine build some new uppers so I can get the correct caster, somewhere around 1/8 to 1/4 top of the wheel towards the inside of the quad :D :ermm:

[outacontrol]

here is a pic of my old laeger crf, if this helps any..http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/outacontrolyfz/motor.jpg

[250Renvy]

Originally posted by protrax
back in 02 a buddy of mine converted a 350RX chassis to fit a CRF in , biked worked well . The frame looked similar to yours.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p125/protrax/100_0127_0001-1.jpg

Truely this is all I needed to know - this is actually PERFECT because my frame is similar and would look the same. I needed to know if the mounts were different.


Originally posted by quadpornstar
I wish we could get Mark Laeger on the horn here and see what's what.
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I think I'll be talking to Mark in the next couple weeks. If he is not too busy I'll see if I can get him to clear up things.

[ds450racer]

there is morethan 1 of those frames in england.
My dad had one of them and i know the guy who used to have another.

[quadpornstar]

lets see some pics