old school race quads

[woodsracer144]

hey everyone. just wanted to start another hobby in the qauds and stuff and i was thinking about building old school race quads... any one have any pics and info on the old race teams? like the nacs and all that...

thanks

[leager-n-ky]

Look up some of Dustin Schuler's post, he used to race for Nac's and has pic's of his old bikes in them.

[woodsracer144]

i found some from 02 with dana on his tc 426 but its not a 250r...

http://www.danacreechracing.com/2002/SFX2002/St%20Louis/d.jpg

I dont know what chassis i should get and stuff... and motor set up... i would like a leagers narrow frame cr500 link with a pro traxx.... but im not sure...

thanks for the tip!

[rustyATV]

This is the only picture I snapped, but this would be a cool one to replicate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/hoppy/BarryHawk1.jpg

[woodsracer144]

who is that? i was thinkin about doing a old school trx 250r a lt250r and i found a tecate really cheap too... i was thinkin about doin a old school with that too... this is a span over a few years so every one knows... ive wanted to do it for a while now... i really like that r you posted there...

[rustyATV]

That would be the top guy on this list. I'm sure there are a few pics of his quads floating around.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/hoppy/GNCC99top10.jpg

[woodsracer144]

baryy hawk huh? is the LEA mean Leagers? after his name

[woodsracer144]

http://www.racerxonline.com/article/bench-racing-ammo-atv-crossover.aspx

theres a pic of a barry on the 250r but whats the deal with the zuke thing they said

found this too
http://www.gnccracing.com/articles/39_quick-fill-29-....-this-week-in-gncc

[rustyATV]

That was the shop that sponsored him. Back then major sponsorship was pretty much non-existent. Also, the only quad still being made was the Banshee, so pretty much everyone rode the 250R.

Yes, LAE was for Laegers. When I started racing he was always on a Laegers chassis and Ohlins suspension. Not sure about his motors, but I THINK they were LRD.

[woodsracer144]

oh know if they where one of the narrow frames or where they just replacement chassis then? what year was this also

[rustyATV]

It was definitely a Pro-trax narrow front. This was 1999, picture was taken at Paradise Park in Macon, Ga.

[woodsracer144]

know of then they started makin after market chassis...

also when j. jones race with jpmx/sparks/klots what is the diff. with jpmx and jp... do they jave anything to do with each other...

thanks for the help...

[rustyATV]

Can't help you on the Jeremiah Jones stuff, but aftermarket frames started about '91 for stock replacements, altered geometry coming a short time later.

[woodsracer144]

ok thanks for the help.. i found a ton of old 250r pics on the net... i'll start posting them.. and see what i can get fro them...

[woodsracer144]

well i'll start to post up my pics
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/BPYJSyQCGkKGrHgoH-CsEjlLlzPB1BJzVCn.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/1jones5.jpg

i know this is JP on a hybred.

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/40204420james20perry202nd.jpg

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/MVC-011S.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/ballanceloaner3-12-02sm.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/ballancepodwash03sm.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/ballancewtrcrsswash03.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/bartosekhale2.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/bbbike213.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/bbbike213.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/bbbike910.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/bill_ballance_lrd_frame.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/ceccomacon3-12-02sm.jpg
them are all bill ballance that i know of

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/contingency20vegas.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/dsc_0689.jpg

jones http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/farrmacon3-16-02sm.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/g3ee5r5-1.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/gallagheryokbalga03sm.jpg

shane hitt

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/hittmacon3-16-02sm.jpg
john natile
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/ironman.jpg
jones
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/jones.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/lewismacon3-12-02sm.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/little.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/littlemacon3-16-02sm.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/project13c.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/rem-performance-2003-bull-horn-bump.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/smileymacon3-12-02sm.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/washingtonga1sm.jpg

ballance
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/washingtonga1sm.jpg
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/washingtonga4sm.jpg

[woodsracer144]

if any one know how to resize the pics and is bored and would like to that would be great...

also
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/little.jpg this is a pic of shane hitt... any one notice that fan on the raidator? or am i seeing things?

any one that also knows any thing about these set ups if you would just chimein when ever i would love it... still thinking on what quad to do first...

[woodsracer144]

pat brown in 03...

[laeger2fiddyr]

is jones' frame a wide frame laeger?? just wondering cuz thats what I have!

[woodsracer144]

im not sure... what did JPMX do for him? i thougt they made chassis and a-arms and stuff...

[laeger2fiddyr]

jj always ran laeger quads. the last year he had an aluminum framed bike. not sure if it was a laeger or lrd aluminum frame but it had a t-pin on it with a walsh no-link if i remember right? jpmx was just a sponsor of his i believe??

[woodsracer144]

know what they gave him? just $$$??? i dont know if leagers ever did a alum. frame... i know lrd did and i knoe ballance rode one of them...

[laeger2fiddyr]

i think they did?? i know i seen some with laeger stickers but who knows they could've put some on there!!! haha!

[woodsracer144]

there was a guy on here jon370r that had a blue lrd that had leagers stickers on it... it kinda stumped me and i had to ask... he was selling or sold it now.. but it was a lrd

[leager-n-ky]

Woodsracer I have some pic's of Donnie Banks, Gary Denton, and Greg Stuart's Bikes I might have one of Darren Nac's also. I might be able to scan them and email to you. I have not learned the art of posting on here yet.

[woodsracer144]

sounds goon my e-mail is moto-x-man199@hotmail.com ... i dont know how to re size them right but i'll see what i can do.. i normally just put them on photo bucket and then copy them over but send them over..

[Rich250RRacer]

Originally posted by rustyATV
That would be the top guy on this list. I'm sure there are a few pics of his quads floating around.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/hoppy/GNCC99top10.jpg

Hey, I'm on that list.:D

[89rwfo]

Originally posted by Rich250RRacer
Hey, I'm on that list.:D

I didnt see what year it was but, Im on the list to #33 just had a flash of some real good memories

[woodsracer144]

any one have any info on any of these quads?

any know know what set ups sparks had?

[atvmxr]

umm i wouldnt say 02 or 03 is old school...

'99 is pushing it..


IMO old school is 90-96 when Denton was king... thats a R to replicate.. :)

[dynofox]

Originally posted by atvmxr
umm i wouldnt say 02 or 03 is old school...

'99 is pushing it..


IMO old school is 90-96 when Denton was king... thats a R to replicate.. :)

I agree, maybe even going back a few more years to the late 80's.

[rustyATV]

Late 80's? That's a bit much. All you'd need is a slightly ratted out, totally stock 250R. The only tough part would be finding retro attire.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/hoppy/250R_Early.jpg

[dynofox]

Originally posted by rustyATV
Late 80's? That's a bit much. All you'd need is a slightly ratted out, totally stock 250R. The only tough part would be finding retro attire.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/hoppy/250R_Early.jpg

It would be a cheap build then haha. I'd actually like to get some retro riding gear. Wasn't one of the main companies selling retro style gear a year or so ago?

[atvmxr]

i still have some of mine, but Im about 100 pounds heavier than back then... :(

[woodsracer144]

yeah i geuss 02 isnt really old school... but it hard findin pics of them old babys now... who made aftermarket chassis back then? i know jp was earlyer one but i thought lsr bought them out.. but im not sure.. thats what i heard...

[88redrocket]

This ones not really "old-school" but its still a classic. Doug Gust's 99 ride. I am currently in the process of bulding my quad like this one.

http://i44.tinypic.com/ta615v.jpg

[atvmxr]

yeah, thats more like it, OEM jug, turf tamers (all though they are not grooved..), grooved rikens up front, laeger frame, PEPs,

needs cut OEM white plastic IMHO... and a wild zebra print Ceet cover. :)

[89rwfo]

Originally posted by atvmxr
yeah, thats more like it, OEM jug, turf tamers (all though they are not grooved..), grooved rikens up front, laeger frame, PEPs,

needs cut OEM white plastic IMHO... and a wild zebra print Ceet cover. :)
Oh yeah dont forget about the sharks mouth front bumper

[FL-R]

Not old school, But i built it like the old school 250 haydays. I love the Nacs graphics.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/southernkrawlers/004.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/southernkrawlers/thespot.jpg

[cdrookie]

i had one of Dentons old quads. it had a prox 330 on it when i got it though.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c78/cdrookie/000_0095.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c78/cdrookie/000_0096.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c78/cdrookie/000_0099.jpg

[woodsracer144]

did you sell that?!?!^^

[cdrookie]

yep:ermm:

[leager-n-ky]

Originally posted by dynofox
It would be a cheap build then haha. I'd actually like to get some retro riding gear. Wasn't one of the main companies selling retro style gear a year or so ago?





Thats funny, my wife wore my neon Gear pants, and jersey for holloween,..... last year.

[dustinshuler]

well you guys have motivated me to build up a replica of my old silver and red Nacs complete Lone Star 330. I just picked up one and will start the build asap it will be cool to have my own (old school) 250r.

[woodsracer144]

dustin what year was that!

[dustinshuler]

what year was what?

[woodsracer144]

your nacs quad... what did nacs make?

[loons]

Originally posted by woodsracer144
know what they gave him? just $$$??? i dont know if leagers ever did a alum. frame... i know lrd did and i knoe ballance rode one of them...

Leagers most definatley made an aluminum frame. I have one. They only made a limited number of them. I got it straight from Leager. It was in their warehouse collecting dust. I will eventually build a sand monster out of it, but leagers stuff is hard to come by these days.

[blastergirl]

Thats an old pic of Ed Tex's mx 250r on display at the vegas to reno race about 6-7 years ago. he raced a different 250r in the race setup for the desert. It was about 118 that day in Vegas...


Originally posted by woodsracer144
well i'll start to post up my pics
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/contingency20vegas.jpg

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by loons
Leagers most definatley made an aluminum frame. I have one. They only made a limited number of them. I got it straight from Leager. It was in their warehouse collecting dust. I will eventually build a sand monster out of it, but leagers stuff is hard to come by these days.

whooaa.. i dont know that... have any pics?!?! i wanna see the beast!

[staakej]

2001 Lonestar 350PV

[staakej]

another pic

[dustinshuler]

that k+k bike reminds me of Travis Spaders old bike after he left Duncan Racing!

[pepshocks]

Originally posted by woodsracer144
who is that? i was thinkin about doing a old school trx 250r a lt250r and i found a tecate really cheap too... i was thinkin about doin a old school with that too... this is a span over a few years so every one knows... ive wanted to do it for a while now... i really like that r you posted there... DUDE!!! THAT IS BARRY HAWK!!!! THE BEST QUAD RACER EVER

[pepshocks]

HERES MY 89 BACK WHEN CHAD DUVALL WAS USING IT AS A PRACTICE/BACK UP BIKE. ALL HAND BUILT BY TONY KELLNER, THEN PASSED ON TO JAMES WAHL, NOW I HAVE IT, AND ITS FOR SALE GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pepshocks]

HERES WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW. ADDED HIPERS WITH TIREBALLS, AND A SICK LRD 300 POWERVALVE MOTOR BUILT BY ARLEN AT LRD AND DRYBREAK TANK

[staakej]

Originally posted by dustinshuler
that k+k bike reminds me of Travis Spaders old bike after he left Duncan Racing!

That's because it's is. Its a friend of mine i think he's the third owner. It's the most insane 2 stroke ive ever rode

[rustyATV]

Found another Barry Hawk photo
http://www.********.com/images/HawkLisbonQuad.jpg

[rustyATV]

Heh. Lets try that again.

Guess ATVRiders is afraid people will go to ATV Scene

[rustyATV]

Found an article for Marty Hart with a couple of pics, one an ATC and the other a TRX. Looks like an '86 with Ohlins suspension?

http://www.off-road.com/dirtsports/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=329459

[deathman53]

what kind of tank is on his trike?? That isn't a a ordinary short track tank and the shrouds don't look like short track shrouds either. He's cut further than what a normal short track tanks allows. this is nornal short track shrouds, some works stuff going on with that trike, funny the trx looks very stock???? I have some pics of factory race trx's from 86/87, funny, they all look very stock. Nothing like the trx's that were used later.

http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/deathman53/IMG_0842.JPG.html

[pepshocks]

Originally posted by rustyATV
This is the only picture I snapped, but this would be a cool one to replicate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/hoppy/BarryHawk1.jpg KELLNER STILL HAS BARRYS RACE QUADS IN HIS GARAGE, HE WAS SELLING THEM FOR $20,000 A POP

[woodsracer144]

holy moley.. i've been away for 4 days and i was shocked to see all this stuff.. nice picks posted... where are all hawks quads for sale at? are they stock chassis?

[pepshocks]

Kellner is located in auburn pa, hawk was running laeger chasis. I have a frame n plastic from a quad of his that got sold back in 99.

[atvmxr]

dude that pic of the trike laid out is MFBA! :D

http://www.off-road.com/dirtsports/data/articlestandard/rock/212006/329459/Photo2.jpg





hey are these CT graphics/seat still available? one of the 250r's i bought this weekend has that exact same silver plastic and blue/etc. graphics and seat...

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/contingency20vegas.jpg

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by atvmxr
dude that pic of the trike laid out is MFBA! :D

http://www.off-road.com/dirtsports/data/articlestandard/rock/212006/329459/Photo2.jpg





hey are these CT graphics/seat still available? one of the 250r's i bought this weekend has that exact same silver plastic and blue/etc. graphics and seat...

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo185/mornin151/contingency20vegas.jpg

yes i think they are... i was lookin at them...

[XXX -rider]

Originally posted by pepshocks
HERES MY 89 BACK WHEN CHAD DUVALL WAS USING IT AS A PRACTICE/BACK UP BIKE. ALL HAND BUILT BY TONY KELLNER, THEN PASSED ON TO JAMES WAHL, NOW I HAVE IT, AND ITS FOR SALE GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
man that brings back some of my ol GNCC memories / days ..
I remember Wahl running it ..& his dad saying how James would get a serious work out hanging on to that machine

[trx310R#24]

Originally posted by pepshocks
HERES MY 89 BACK WHEN CHAD DUVALL WAS USING IT AS A PRACTICE/BACK UP BIKE. ALL HAND BUILT BY TONY KELLNER, THEN PASSED ON TO JAMES WAHL, NOW I HAVE IT, AND ITS FOR SALE GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


why would you lie about selling it haha...

pepshocks
Senior Member

Registered: Apr 2006
Location: ST.CLAIR PA
Posts: 395



7500.00 OBO MOTOR IS BRAND NEW BUILT FROM GROUND UP BY ARLEN FROM LRD. THAT ALONE WAS 3300.00 EVERYTHING IS BRAND NEW FROM CRANK TO SPARKPLUG.

PEP ZPS SHOCKS-PEP DAMPNER
LAEGERS A ARMS--SWINGARM--STEERING STEM.
LONESTAR AXLE-AXLE CARRIER
HIPERS--NEW RAZR 2'S--TIREBALLS
MUCH MUCH MORE. THIS WAS BUILT BY TONY KELLNER(KELLNER MOTORSPORTS)

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$7500 for a stock frame?????????part it out then

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pepshocks
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Registered: Apr 2006
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Posts: 395



SOLD FOR 7000.00 BEING PICKED UP FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!


quote:Originally posted by mcarlson1
Holy crap!! congrats on the price, does the guy want another 250? i could use 7k lol. Congrats again bro.

Thanks,
Mike

THE GUY LOOKED EVERWHERE FOR A 89 WITH ORIGINAL TITLE AND SINCE I GOT THIS OFF ORIGINAL OWNER IN 89 THE GUY WAS CRAZY EXCITED. HE SAID HE WAS GONA PUT THIS TO BONE STOCK AND LOOK AT IT IN HIS GARAGE. WOW!!!

[pepshocks]

yyea that guy jerked me around good!! Money talks. Bull**** walks!!!

[trx310R#24]

Originally posted by pepshocks
yyea that guy jerked me around good!! Money talks. Bull**** walks!!!

yeah didnt mean to sound like an *******. thought about it after i posted alot of people have done that to me.. lol