help on the new 450's

[josh burden]

i have a raptor that i'm planning on trading in and buying a 450 or an outlaw, but i don't know wt 450 to get? i'm leaning over to a ds450xc or a yfz450r. i don't know if there going to be a let down from the raptor but if there goin to be i'll be looking at an outlaw 525.

[hondariderdylan]

wow
your looking at a 450XC and a YFZR?
those are about as different as it gets, what will you be riding?
whitch outlaw are you looking at?

[jcs003]

trx450r. honda does it the best.

[k4f5x0r]

Originally posted by jcs003
trx450r. honda does it the best.

nice argument :rolleyes:


all we can say is go out and ride all the different ones you can, then decide which is best fit for you. keep in mind how wide the trails, or wherever you ride is. you dont want a MX width quad when your gunna be bouncing off of tree's :D

[jcs003]

Originally posted by k4f5x0r
nice argument :rolleyes:


all we can say is go out and ride all the different ones you can, then decide which is best fit for you. keep in mind how wide the trails, or wherever you ride is. you dont want a MX width quad when your gunna be bouncing off of tree's :D

trx450r is like 2" wider than the z400 and kfx, i believe

if you do get a 450 get something tht is reliable. polaris has reliability issues along with KTM and can-am.:D

[k4f5x0r]

lol the trx, kfx, old YFZ(08 and lower) can am(every version but the MX model) polaris are all 46 inches wide. stock that is ;)

[jcs003]

Originally posted by k4f5x0r
lol the trx, kfx, old YFZ(08 and lower) can am(every version but the MX model) polaris are all 46 inches wide. stock that is ;)

you may be correct. i thought the trx450r was 48" long. sorry if i was wrong.

[k4f5x0r]

no its 46" stock. and sorry if my posts made it seem like i was angry im not/wasnt :)

[hondariderdylan]

but anyway yes

dont get an MX quad for woods riding and dont get an XC quad for moto riding
try as many as possible and pick your favorite

[timmy400exfast]

get that ktm 450 qaud it looks wicked and ktm out of the factory is race ready i had a sx125 and that thing ate up 250's

[hondariderdylan]

Originally posted by timmy400exfast
get that ktm 450 qaud it looks wicked and ktm out of the factory is race ready i had a sx125 and that thing ate up 250's

you got an extra 10K layin around:p

[timmy400exfast]

yeah thats the only problem$$$$$$$$

[Ryan]

Do some research... Every 450 offers you something a little different. If you plan on playing around in the trails, the YFZ450r might be real tight in some spots. If your out in the open or on the track, the YFZr and LTR's would be much better.

Your best bet is to see if you can test ride any of them. But if you got the dough, KTM would be my first pick!

[fastredrider44]

I think the new YFZR is a pretty sweet bike, but it is kinda wide for the woods. If you do plan on doing much woods riding, you might wanna steer clear from it. And I'm not doggin the raptors, but a 450 isn't going to be a let down in anyway except maybe top end power, and not by much.

[XCRacer236]

if your gonna be doin XC, the Standard YFZ or the KTM gets my vote BY FAR!

for MX, the YFZ-R, or the LTR gets my vote!

Forget DNF-Am and Honda.

[JParisi48]

get a kfx, fuel injection, reverse, reliable, looks amazing, handles amazing too...

[josh burden]

trx's have a horrible history honda hasn't changed much on those quads and the frames r junk. my friend races trx's and he is always replacing his frame and my friend broke his frame just beating it.

[ProspectorJim]

Originally posted by jcs003
trx450r is like 2" wider than the z400 and kfx, i believe

if you do get a 450 get something tht is reliable. polaris has reliability issues along with KTM and can-am.:D

actually there are no reliability issues with the can-am unless you get a 2008 model.

[sparks 450]

buy a honda. great motor, very reliable, and great price.

[XCRacer236]

Originally posted by ProspectorJim
actually there are no reliability issues with the can-am unless you get a 2008 model.

then where has Brent Sturdivant been?

[ProspectorJim]

Originally posted by CaseDawg350
then where has Brent Sturdivant been?

We're talking about stock engines here, not fully built pro engines...

[sparks 450]

highest stock top speeds 450s honda - yamaha 78 mph

[ProspectorJim]

Originally posted by sparks 450
highest stock top speeds 450s honda - yamaha 78 mph

you realize that the top speed doesn't really indicate power don't you? Its mostly about gearing.

Anyway, The Ds450 is a great choice. I'm not aware of any problems that Can-am did not fix with the 2009 model. I love everything about mine, I used to have a raptor prior to getting my DS. the handling is excellent. I ride in the woods alot and have had no problems with it. The power is delivered very well for woods riding. The only bad part is getting aftermarket parts.

[XCRacer236]

Originally posted by ProspectorJim
We're talking about stock engines here, not fully built pro engines...

so... theres not as much done to those motors as people think. motors should be able to stand up to as much as people can throw at them. if it cant, they need to go back to the drawing board.

[sparks 450]

Good point but they all have good acceleration . just go with your gut feeling. they are all sweet rides in one way or another. type of riding places is also a factor, good luck with your choice.

[KFX450Rrider490]

Originally posted by josh burden
trx's have a horrible history honda hasn't changed much on those quads and the frames r junk. my friend races trx's and he is always replacing his frame and my friend broke his frame just beating it.

yea your friend ok buddy just as we said josh wait and see if the yfz gets reverse if it dosent buy a kfx problem solved with and awsome bike is now yours either way you will have to adjust your riding style so just buy a kfx already
if you guys were wondering we are good friends and he doesnt even know his friend he just thinks hes cool!!

[josh burden]

yea bull i don't know him he was only up our house for two hours with ur dad

[SRH]

for xc money being no option id say the ktm, 2nd the old style yfz, 3rd the kfx 450r then the honda 450 the yfzr and ltr arent that great to where id want to narrow them up and put them in a gncc race

[coryatver]

For xc, best quad right now is the original yfz. And get a gt thunder revalves, skids, 6 ply tires, and a kill switch are you have an awesome xc quad. I ride a 450r I like the seating position better I am kind of tall for the yfz

[8my_Cash]

It's all on opinion, I mean i have a 2007 trx450r and i ride freestyle on it, bottomed it out many many many many times and i have no stress cracks and no frame problems. Im still on stock top and bottom ends, even stock valves and still no problems.

I love my bike and Im a honda guy. The new quads that are out now are different really in small ways when compared stock for stock. Its almost at a point where how you feel on the bike is the difference instead of the quality of the machine.


So what i would do is definitly try to either test ride or just go and sit on a few different bikes too see how comfortable you feel on them. Just make sure you are buying the correct model, you dont want an xc bike for moto and vice versa.

Just remember every bike has their problems and everyone has an opinion but when it comes down to it the only opinion that matters is yours.

[procircuit406ex]

Originally posted by CaseDawg350
so... theres not as much done to those motors as people think.

VERY TRUE, most of them are just cammed and a piston, if that.

[MX MaNiAc 06]

Originally posted by CaseDawg350
if your gonna be doin XC, the Standard YFZ or the KTM gets my vote BY FAR!

for MX, the YFZ-R, or the LTR gets my vote!

Forget DNF-Am and Honda.

Word.