harescramble, feb2 @ flying dutchman

[QuadRacer041]

so who is plannin on going.
as of right now i am.

[Porkchop]

quad041 - what quad you gonna be racing? werent you gonna set up the 400 or 250r for the trails?

[QuadRacer041]

yea, the 400ex

[Ex'r Marlin]

Hopefully I will be there along with Ron (Derno24) and Lenny (440ex4me). We will be running the C class.

Hope to see you there! Glad to hear you will be coming out to the races!!:cool:

[mrusk]

041 are you sure your 400ex will be able to fit down the trails with the +2 aarms? Better think about some +4+1 rims to narrow you up a bit.

matt

[Pappy]

i dont think there is a tight spot at that course...very ..flat and fast

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by mrusk
041 are you sure your 400ex will be able to fit down the trails with the +2 aarms? Better think about some +4+1 rims to narrow you up a bit.

matt


dont worry, i got the hook up.

[mrusk]

So its a open track? Damn i'd race it if my R would start

matt:mad: :mad:

[beerock]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[bansheeguy77]

ooo i wanna race....any1 wanna loan me a bike to race?? we can split the trophy :)

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by mrusk
So its a open track? Damn i'd race it if my R would start

matt:mad: :mad:

dude get that peice of $hit fixed already, its been like 6 months.

[kc 300EX]

Can you give me more information on this race? Where exactly it is, times, anything, Im interested. Thanx.

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by kc 300EX
Can you give me more information on this race? Where exactly it is, times, anything, Im interested. Thanx.


http://www.harescrambleracing.com/go there for info and then click on each track to get the phone#'s

[TLC]

Rick and I will be there.:)

[QuadRacer041]

cool, ill try to get a head count a few days before so we know who to look for

i hope the weather is better than its been recently :(

[Pappy]

Originally posted by "2-R's Rider"
i hope the weather is better than its been recently :(

yeah...that place is wet when its dry out:p

whoa !...i think someone is watching me post ...:eek:

[Pappy]

Originally posted by "2-R's Rider"
whoa !...i think someone is watching me post ...:eek:

i watch everything;)

Originally posted by Pappy


i watch everything;)
wow! you are truly amazing..
questions is ............................ahh never mind :blah

[Pappy]

all bs aside...are you racing or watching? same with the harrisburg race?

Originally posted by Pappy
all bs aside...are you racing or watching? same with the harrisburg race?

Ya talkin to me ???

well you know ME!...right?

[Pappy]

just wonderin....i will have my camera...i need to know who to look for.

yeah..i know u......youll be sitting beside me raggin on quads...talkin about how we could do it better:D :blah

Originally posted by Pappy
just wonderin....i will have my camera...i need to know who to look for.

yeah..i know u......youll be sitting beside me raggin on quads...talkin about how we could do it better:D :blah
I dont think so!!..

ok ok all bs aside ..,
I am pretty sure i'll be heading to the northwest ..for a few days in early february

but btw, the farm show has always interested me ...

rt now thinking about the hagerstown race since the (newly finished) woods racer 2 is in need of some seat time ..

over & out 2r's

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by Pappy
all bs aside...are you racing or watching? same with the harrisburg race?

u talkin about the areanacross?my freind did that race a few years ago and said its real hairy there.so tight alot of crash's, thats not for me, lol

yupper you are right about that ..
I have even seen the quad riders hit the railing by the stands ..ouch!

[Extremeracer167]

I wish there was a race in central PA that all of us could hit together. That would kick @$$! I still wont have my quad together by feb 2nd or i would hit it!

[Pappy]

you dont have to race to hang out. its fun just gettin everyone together. harrisburg is kinda central...lol:)

[jlhughes750]

check out www.amadistrict6.com go to harescrambles and check out the schedule.
There are alot more races at the dutchman this spring so there are plenty of chances to check it out!!!!

I describe the Dman as a big long MX race with no really big jumps and alot of flat turns. Its around 4 -5 miles and is totally flat. Its based on an mx track for the start then connects to a mini mx track then into a wooded feild and alot of tight turns. Its really wide any mx bike can be run there. Just use XC tires cause theres alot of Shale, ballist ,whatever u want to call it. Fist size rocks i guess u can say!!!!! The entire track is visible by spectators, and they have a warm club house with a BAR. That right a BAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway its a fun place to run. I have raced there at least 75 times on a quad through out the years.
Borich,Hertz and Smiley are the ones to beat at this track.

Hopefully I will be there along with Ron (Derno24) and Lenny (440ex4me). We will be running the C class

c-class what c class :)


all bs aside...are you racing or watching? same with the harrisburg race?
Ya talkin to me ???

well you know ME!...right?

:) :o :)

[Extremeracer167]

Originally posted by jlhughes750
Borich,Hertz and Smiley are the ones to beat at this track.

Nah your kiddin us!;)

[jlhughes750]

maybe not this year???? They both got lapped last fall by some 4 stroke guys!!!!!!!

The entire track is visible by spectators, and they have a warm club house with a BAR. That right a BAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hmm now that could be a seperate race :D

[Extremeracer167]

who got lapped??

who got lapped??

Racing to the bar? :rolleyes: :D

[Derno24]

Ladies and gentlemen of exriders we would like to invite you to the debut of Lenny (440ex4me) at the Flying Dutchman. That is right Lenny will be there racing for the first time.

Lenny: You can't back out. Marlin or I will make sure you have a quad to ride. Afterwards we will all be getting beers at the bar.

Originally posted by Derno24
Ladies and gentlemen of exriders we would like to invite you to the debut of Lenny (440ex4me) at the Flying Dutchman. That is right Lenny will be there racing for the first time.

Lenny: You can't back out. Marlin or I will make sure you have a quad to ride. Afterwards we will all be getting beers at the bar.

hhmmm,...guess I might HAVE to come now !!..

problem is I just got a reservation for alil trip ..damn

go get em lenny!...

Interesting, Glad someone told me :)

Would have been embarased if I missed it :D

[Derno24]

How can you miss it when I am driving...Quit your whining

[ECAthumperEX33]

I'll be at dutchmen.....yea i raced the Harrisburg race last year. Raced 250b on a blaster. Was impossible to qualify cause they only took like 3 from the qualifier and 2 from LCQ. I was racing against worked Rs, EXs, and some Canns. Got 5th in qualifier and missed getting into the main by 1 spot in the LCQ. It was a fun weekend, but very $$$ for the amt of time you get on the track. Not racing this year but will definitely be there hanging out in the ECA pits again.

[Ex'r Marlin]

Originally posted by ECAthumperEX33
Not racing this year but will definitely be there hanging out in the ECA pits again. ECA... Does that stand for East Coast ATV??:confused:

Cool to hear you will be racing the Flying Dutchmen race!

I look forward to seeing a lot of us Exriders.com racers there!:)

Lenny (440ex4me)... Glad to hear that you are coming out to race with us........... FINALLY!:D

How can you miss it when I am driving...Quit your whining Be nice now you dont want to get embareassed at dutchman now :D (spelling was wrong on purpose for those who didnt get it)


Lenny (440ex4me)... Glad to hear that you are coming out to race with us........... FINALLY! Well it seems thats what ron is telling me :) but if it keeps snowing every other day I may have to dissapoint you guys cause I dont have a sled and friggin raindeer.

BTW anyone know the elevation there?

[ECAthumperEX33]

yes ECA stands for EastCoast ATV....I'm a sponsored rider and also work part time there.

[QuadRacer041]

wow really looksa like there is gonna be a $hit load of exriders there.should be really fun. does anyone know what the ground conditions are over there right now?when i say that i mean is there any snow there? im in north jersey and i got like 4 inches on the ground here left from snow we got last week.
also, is this a bike and quad event? what are the differnt quad classes?

[jlhughes750]

Quads start @ 10:30 then the bikes run afterwards @1:00


classes and starting order as follows
A 2stroke
A 4 stroke
Vet +30
B 2trk
B 4strk
C 4strk
utility
0-230

classes start @60 seconds apart and run for 1hr. 15 min.
mx setups will work fine just run better tires.

WE NEED "A CLASS RACERS" TO SIGN UP,COME ON WHAT DO HAVE TO LOSE, RACE FOR CASH. THE B CLASSES ARE FLOODED, AND THE SAME GUYS HAVE RUN A FOR YEARS. LETS SEE SOME NEW FACES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:eek:

[Ex'r Marlin]

Originally posted by quad041
also, is this a bike and quad event? what are the differnt quad classes? They start the kids off first. They combine both bikes and atv's... Not sure of the classes for them though.

After the hour or so race for the kids, Flying Dutchmen either starts the race for the quads, or they have what is called a "parade lap". This is basically a practice lap where the staff checks your kill tether switch and you get an idea of the whole coarse.

After the quad race, they have a two hour hare scramble for the dirt bikes. This is cool, because we get to watch them for an hour or so before they have the awards presentation for the quads.:) (Some will go in a drink, watch tv, and socialize, rather than watch the race... But I won't mention any names!):D

As for the quad classes, if I remember right:
Two stroke A class
Four stroke A class
Four stroke B class
Four stroke C class
Two stroke B class
Vet class
Utility class

I think this is the order too, but do not quote me on this!

[Derno24]

Lenny you are big enough to be santa so get the reindeer warmed up I'll make sure to bring the red suit for ya. So where are we riding this weekend.

bring that red suit and maybe some of them there raindeers too :)

If I dont get my stuff back in time for this I guess I am gonna have to enter the warrior in the utility class, plus it works better in the snow anyhow.

[Derno24]

The warrior would still be in the C class Lenny.

Hmmm now that could be embareassing to get beat by the ole warrior :) then you would be wishing the guy in the red suit showed up:D

[Derno24]

I am confused I thought you were the guy in the red suit and I was one of your elves. Besides I know you won't beat me because you haven't figured a way to smoke while you are riding. :devil

[QuadRacer041]

you guys from jersey, what route do you take to get there?
im in north jersey, i mapquested it and it says take 287 to78.when i look on the map it looks real close to rausch creek, is it?cause when i mapquest rausch it says to take 80 to 81.
what way do u guys go?

[Pappy]

lou...take 78 out of jersey.....then 81 south....from there im not sure whats the best way into the complex...81 or 83 south


if you normally come down 81 to RC then take that...all the way to harrisburg

[jlhughes750]

r u asking directions to motorama or to the dutchman.

the d-man is old exit 7 off of I78 go r. onto 183 over the mountain, go down the otherside and go l. at the flashing light. onto 895. the track is on the l. @6 miles form 895 and 183.

the d-man is close to Rausch Creek

[Pappy]

he better need directions to both:macho ;)

[QuadRacer041]

i was talkin about directions to d-man,lol
yea hughes thats what the dman website says to do alos, i guess ill take that route.
are you sayin i have to go to harrisburg too pappy????lol

[Ex'r Marlin]

Originally posted by quad041
you guys from jersey, what route do you take to get there? The same directions Jlhughes750 posted for Flying Dutchmen.;) I estimate that it is about 15 minutes closer than Rausch Creek.

Hope to see you there Lou!:cool:

[QuadRacer041]

i hope my buddy doesnt back out on me(racer101).im really lookin forward to this race, my bike is all ready to go, ive been getting some good seat time in, i hope the weather is good.
here she is boys, this as xc as its gonna get, lol :D

[QuadRacer041]

notice my new exriders sticker on the front plastic

[Ex'r Marlin]

Originally posted by quad041
notice my new exriders sticker on the front plastic Cool!:cool: Also look at the "race cut" fenders!:eek: Looks like someone is going to get dirty out there... But I won't mention any names!:D

[QuadRacer041]

hey listen buddy, its an mx bike in disgise ok.:devil
im workin on getting a set of used fronts, uncut
anyway i wont get that muddy ill only have the mud from my tires kickin up on me cause i dont plan on having anyone in front of me,hahahahahaha:D

[kc 300EX]

ok, say you never raced a harescramble before, but you really want to, and this track is only 2 hours and 48 minutes away. You ride a 300EX, youre 16 with an AMA card. What do you think? Good idea to come try it out, or am I just waisting my time?

Say I do go, where are places to stay around there? Is there hotels in the area, or camping or what? I have no problem camping in february.

Some one help me out

[QuadRacer041]

http://www.flyingdutchmenmc.com/

they should have a link to motels in the area.

[Ex'r Marlin]

Originally posted by kc 300EX
ok, say you never raced a harescramble before, but you really want to, and this track is only 2 hours and 48 minutes away. You ride a 300EX, youre 16 with an AMA card. What do you think? Good idea to come try it out, or am I just waisting my time?I can not think of a better place to start racing then at Flying Dutchmen. I found it to be a great place to start at, and I am still enjoying the place!:) Your 300ex will be just fine.;) I wished I would have started in this sport at the age of 16... I think it is worth a shot for you to try this event out. These are just my thoughts, and I don't think that you would be wasting you time. Before the race you can communicate with anyone, see their racing machines, review the track, etc. Then after the race, everyone either brags how good they did, how fast they saw the pro guys go, how dirty it was out there, and of coarse... "I could have beat you if .....":D See what you would be missing out on! But seriously, the majority of us racers have a great time out there, hopefully you will be one of them!

If I don't see you, good luck!

FYI... My first race was a Flying Dutchmen on my 300ex... I finished 13th! Then again, there was only 13 of us in my class!:rolleyes: (Back in 1997)

[kc 300EX]

Ex'r Marlin
Thanx a lot for the advice, I definetly want to try and get over there if I can now

FYI... My first race was a Flying Dutchmen on my 300ex... I finished 13th! Then again, there was only 13 of us in my class! (Back in 1997) Marlin you been racing for 6 years WOW you should be in the A class instead of bullying us guys in the C class LOL :D:blah

And to my favorite elve :grr :blah :macho

[Derno24]

Santa stop playing with me....Oh I forgot this was a pubic place I mean Public. Marlin has to leave the 300 ex at home and learn how to stay on the quad. Help me I've fallin and can't get up:devil .

Marlin: Just having fun here. Also did you ever think about getting into sales? You seem to be good at it.

Lenny: The only thing Marlin is bullying is those other little elves. I am too fat for him to bully.:square

[jlhughes750]

my first race was at the d-man, in 94 i've raced there 7-10 times a year since. I've won there in the 2strk B class, the 4strk pro class, and a few times in the 2strk Pro class. Its a great track to race with your buddys, and its an even better track to hunt down your competitors for a few laps then in the "switch backs" on the last lap, hold thats outer edge around the berms and motor right by!!!!!!!!!! The racing is reallly competetive and theres alot of room for battles. The track is fast though, wow about two laps in, the lappers are 3 wide down the straights,its somtimes gets hairy picking your way through. Its great though to see all the new racers out there!!!!

we'll be there stop and say hi!!!!
look for the Powerline ATV quads.

[jja125]

hey since i've been going through the schedules looking for a place to start at this spring - what is in your opinion the best track to start at for your first race in hare scrambles/ gncc racing? (in the pa, oh, & wv areas i guess)

either wisp or the john penton are the closest gncc's for me but i definitely know i don't want my first one to be at wisp/deep creek.

The racing is reallly competetive and theres alot of room for battles. The track is fast though, wow about two laps in, the lappers are 3 wide down the straights,its somtimes gets hairy picking your way through. Hmmm sounds like it could be interesting, and maybe expensive raplacing all those bent up parts :D

[Derno24]

Lenny: You have to be in the race to battle people not catching a smoke break on the side.... Ready for the cold this weekend..... Remember it will probably be colder on the 2nd.

jja125: The dutchman isn't very rough so if you just want the chance to get you feet wet without worrying too much about the terrain than this is your place. Most of the other places are rough and rougher with less places to pass.

Lenny: You have to be in the race to battle people not catching a smoke break on the side.... Funny you are starting to sound like someone getting ready to be SMOKED. :D :macho

[jlhughes750]

Don't worry, just move when the Pro guys come through and the parts won't get bent up too bad.!!!!!hahahaha

Its not uncommon for the B or C guys to go 1 maybe even 2 laps down!!!

It'll be fun, just come out and try it. Its a great place to race and meet new riders. I'm new to EXRIDERS, but i've been going to the d-man for years, it would be great to meet some other EX members, i can show u guys around the track a little. Maybe intoduce u to some of the fast guys.

the d-man is weird some people love it and others hate it.

let me try to explain, its such an easy track,but thats what makes it hard. Its flat with a few doubles, its a harescramble but theres no hills or creeks to cross. Its more of an MX track but its run for over an hour. The track changes every lap, it gets a groove in it and a berm on the outside. Theres a trick to going fast there that a few of us have figured out. u really have to use TT racing tactics most of the time,slower is faster,smooth lines fast lines, you know that hole idea. Its really a unique track, by the way its almost fast and wide open enough to drain a stk. ex tank in an hour. My R with a 4.0 clarke would hit reserve on lap 7, if they make it an extra lap race like they have been, then i need to refuel sometime during the race. A laps between 4 and 5 miles long. You pretty much run flat out the entire race. Its not real woodsy!!!!!!!!!!

Doubles oh nooo there go the new bars :)

So its more like a MXscramble then Hmmmmm intersting.

[Pappy]

here is a pic of borich at the D:) it also shows some of the track

[QuadRacer041]

pappy, so some of the track is very mx oriented(sp?),hmm thats good for me, looks cool i cant wait.

[Pappy]

lou....i have only seen a few actually hit the jumps there. the quads have lines around them. im sure you wont have any trouble;) my biggest fear with gncc is that after 9 miles of slamming my quad thru rocks..rutts...trees...creeks...etc ...that it will be in one piece to hit a jump:p but at this track its all good. like he described earlier....fast and flat.....very fun:D

[kc 300EX]

Pappy- Can you post some more pics? Id really like to see as much as possible. If you dont wanna post, IM me, kc 300EX and send me some pics, thanx!

[Pappy]

i have some pics...my son is in some of them...but you all can see the track

[QuadRacer041]

Originally posted by Pappy
lou....i have only seen a few actually hit the jumps there. the quads have lines around them. im sure you wont have any trouble;) my biggest fear with gncc is that after 9 miles of slamming my quad thru rocks..rutts...trees...creeks...etc ...that it will be in one piece to hit a jump:p but at this track its all good. like he described earlier....fast and flat.....very fun:D

when you say u think ill have no trouble do you mean hitting the jumps that everyone else goes around? :cool:

dont worry, i have no plans on hitting any trees,rocks, etc....illl slow up alittle, lol

[Pappy]

this section is an offcamber with a small ditch at the bottom....not to bad....but walk it ;)

[Pappy]

another one of chris

[Pappy]

sorry....but i have alot of pics of chris...lol:)

[660bigdaddy]

hey pappy, did you come to one of the wnyoa races last year with chris? i think it was the dream riders event in august 02.

[Pappy]

nope...wasnt me....i just get good pics of him. he is normally out front and alone so setting up the pic is the easy part!!

Pappy or whoever got any more pics of dutchman?

[Derno24]

Lenny do you need someone to draw it out for you? You have seen some of the track already in person when we drove by the course.

Oh well, I am definitely ready for this one. Now to see what I can break.

Lenny do you need someone to draw it out for you? You have seen some of the track already in person when we drove by the course.

Hmmmm must have had my eyes closed again with your driving :) :eek:

Post those drawings ok :blah

[Derno24]

Yeah you definitely need to close your eyes with my driving. brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Look out here comes the guard rail.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Look out here comes the guard rail. LOL and the divider and a semi and and and you get the picture :D

[Ex'r Marlin]

Originally posted by 440EX4me
LOL and the divider and a semi and and and you get the picture :D So which one of you had the "semi"?:eek: I don't know about the two of you!... And no... I don't get the picture!

Anyway... I look forward to February 2. Hopefully the weather will cooperate since some of us a sensitive to the elements.:rolleyes:

Lenny (440ex4me), no need for a track layout, they have the course very well marked... No reason for you to memorize it!:)

:huh :confused: :huh

[Derno24]

you guys.

Marlin needs us to explain

B or C cups the semi I would be running into.