super swampers boggers

[buck440]

idk much about rim/tire sizes and was wondering if you can fit a 38x15.5x16 tire on a 15x6 rim...that's right, it's a super swamper!:blah:

[Pappy]

You need a 16 inch rim for that size tire

The last number in the tire size is the rim diameter

[buck440]

38 is how tall and 15.5 is width...what is the 6 on rim? width? how wide can i go?

Originally posted by buck440
38 is how tall and 15.5 is width...what is the 6 on rim? width? how wide can i go?

Your rim is 15" and the tire requires a 16" rim... You need a 16" rim.

[400ex28]

I'd run a 10" wide rim with a 15.5

[buck440]

let's say the tire fitted... what does the 6 stand for on the rim? and how wide could i go for a tire?

Originally posted by buck440
let's say the tire fitted... what does the 6 stand for on the rim? and how wide could i go for a tire?

The 6 is how wide the rim is. With a 6" wide rim you're going to get at most maybe a 9" wide tire... No where near a 15.5"

[buck440]

thanks for hanging in with my dumb questions:) for the rim a 15.5 tire width would fit but the wall will stick out more as to a 10 tire width?

[TCracin440ex]

well. in order to make a 15.5 work properly on the truck without alot of sidewall bulge id suggest a 16x12 wheel. i will fore warn you if you plan on doing any highway driving with these tires forget getting them to last any amount of time. they are a straight mud tire and made for mud.

if you plan on putting these tires on a vehicle with ifs *independed front suspension* be prepared to keep having your frontend re aligned and probally replacing wheel bearings alot too.

if you plan on doing any kind of on road driving id suggest a super swamper SSR or a IROK they will last alot longer and will peform not quite as well as a bogger but probally just as good

[hondariderdylan]

my buddy had a set of 38.5x15x15's on his F-150

what are yours going on?
also, a few things about boggers:

1. they are loud as piss at anywhere above 15-20 mph
2. they will wear out after about 6 months-a year
3. as you have probably realized, there VERY expensive

but you will have fun with them for a little while
and they make a mean sled when they are worn out and bolted to a sheet of metal tied to my quad with my buddy riding it:D

[fastredrider44]

For a 38 inch tire, you need a lot of lift, and for that wide of a tire, when you start flexing, it will probably rearrange your sheet metal. But yeah, you would need a 16x10 or 16x12 wheel.

[buck440]

i'm getting all my stuff straight first before i buy. it'll be on a 1978 gmc 1500 with a 6in suspension and 4in body lift...tires should fit right:huh

[shane071489]

i actually have an 83 with 38.5 boggers on 15 inch rims and all i have is a 6 inch lift i like it to be low to the ground i dont care about being sky high anymore just my opinion i scrub a decent amount so im gonna go with a sky jacker 8 inch springs up front i think its like 200 something dollars not to bad

[Tommy Warren]

those tires are simply sick!! I had a set 0n my 90 dodge ram. hondaryderdylan is right they won't last long if you ride them on the road! just throw them in the back until you get to the mud hole then throw them on. but they do hum on the road sound kinda cool in my opinion but if your on any kind of budget you wanna keep them off the road. and get some heavy duty windshield wipers cuz if you've got the balls to turn them they throw the mud big time!!! i give the swamper boggers two thumbs up!

[buck440]

cool, nice to know they'd fit. since i live next to the wabash river and it always flood the roads like it has been for months now:grr: i just wanna see how deep i can get it:D and there are a ton of trails within a farts whiff distance and yah i'll prolly get another set of tires for the road...does anybody know if they make a snorkel for 1978 gmc 1500 truck??

[fastredrider44]

Gotta make your own, and a snorkel on a carb vehicle is asking for trouble. If you proceed to make one anyway, make sure to extend ALL your vent lines, so you don't get water in your tranny, transfer case, axles, etc. But if you have a 6 inch Susp lift :D and a 4inch body lift:rolleyes: , then you shouldn't need a snorkel, just don't hit the water too fast. I remember those days of having to pressurewash the INSIDE of the truck. It will get old fast. My advice is stick to mud and don't let water get into the cab. And if you have stock wheels on a 78 GMC 4x4, chances are stock wheels are 15x8 just so you know. (And I hope you have bigger axles for that kinda tire, let alone a lot of HP)

[buck440]

and another:rolleyes: will it hurt my stock motor/tranny with them tires? my dad had to take his ford in the dealership and do somthing to the computer when he put 35's on his.

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by buck440
my dad had to take his ford in the dealership and do somthing to the computer when he put 35's on his.

That's because it makes your speedo off a little when you put bigger/smaller tires on.

It wont hurt your truck but without re gearing it will accelerate slower.

[400exrider707]

I had some 34" super swampers on my 06 F250. I got probably a good 10K miles out of them before they were trash (showing chords). I did all highway driving. They were LOUD (I liked it though). You could hear my truck coming from MILES away. They probably would have lasted closer to 15k-20k miles if I didn't really pound on them. ~800ft/lbs at the wheels and 4wd boosted launches did NOT help these tires!:blah:

My tires were 34x10.5x17

[buck440]

cool, well that's it for now:)

[fastredrider44]

Originally posted by buck440
and another:rolleyes: will it hurt my stock motor/tranny with them tires? my dad had to take his ford in the dealership and do somthing to the computer when he put 35's on his.

The motor won't be hurt. It will be hard on the tranny. And if you have any horsepower or like to drive rough, those tires will eat your axles like candy. Without regearing, expect your truck to accelerate VERY slowly. A 38 inch tire is big enough that you have to have a fairly serious rig to run them. Lift alone is not going to cut it for very long.

[hondariderdylan]

my freinds truck with the 38's had a built and bored ford 5.0 and it was regeared
its also got a six inch suspension lift and 3 inch body lift

we managed to run about 100mph with the C6 3 speed:D
and could light the tires at the blip of the throttle

the boggers will do fine
:cool:

[TCracin440ex]

Originally posted by buck440
i'm getting all my stuff straight first before i buy. it'll be on a 1978 gmc 1500 with a 6in suspension and 4in body lift...tires should fit right:huh

better look into a set of gears too.

[TCracin440ex]

Originally posted by buck440
and another:rolleyes: will it hurt my stock motor/tranny with them tires? my dad had to take his ford in the dealership and do somthing to the computer when he put 35's on his.


a good rule of thumb to keep in mind is a 35-36 is about all you want on a half ton axle. if you want anything bigger id suggest ton axles (Dana 60s and corp 14 bolt). u put them tires on there w/o atleast a set of gears maybe 4.56 or 4.88 then them boggers will claim your axles and probally transmission victom.

id say put a set of 35s on there and ull have more fun because a 1500 should have the power to turn them over better.

[fastredrider44]

Originally posted by TCracin440ex
a good rule of thumb to keep in mind is a 35-36 is about all you want on a half ton axle. if you want anything bigger id suggest ton axles (Dana 60s and corp 14 bolt). u put them tires on there w/o atleast a set of gears maybe 4.56 or 4.88 then them boggers will claim your axles and probally transmission victom.

id say put a set of 35s on there and ull have more fun because a 1500 should have the power to turn them over better.

A 78 K10 will have either 10 bolt axles or a 12 bolt rear and maybe a Dana 44 front, available from 77 to 79 as an option. However, I have broken plenty of axles in my day, and if you have a heavy foot, I wouldn't put more than 33s on those axles. Either upgrade you axles or just plan on breaking crap. I got tired of breaking crap. So my old truck now has a 14 bolt rear, Dana 60 front and 4.56 gears.:devil:

[buck440]

:huh i have no idea about axles and gears and what not, it's all chinese to me. when i get more money flowing in i'll have an expert on hand to help me learn a little more:macho

[BERT306]

i have a 87 chevy w 35x14.5x15 Boggers. Rides horrible, loud as hell and didn't last too long. But i think they handle the mud alot better now that they're wore down, alot better clean out. They will def get you thru the mud! I drove them alot on the street and got around 15000 miles out of them. They are a bias ply tire and after sitting awhile they obtain flat spots. That makes for a extremely rough(bouncy) ride!!! not like a 87 rides good anyway but :huh:huh

[TCracin440ex]

Originally posted by fastredrider44
A 78 K10 will have either 10 bolt axles or a 12 bolt rear and maybe a Dana 44 front, available from 77 to 79 as an option. However, I have broken plenty of axles in my day, and if you have a heavy foot, I wouldn't put more than 33s on those axles. Either upgrade you axles or just plan on breaking crap. I got tired of breaking crap. So my old truck now has a 14 bolt rear, Dana 60 front and 4.56 gears.:devil:


i dont know what year chevy started putting 10 bolts in their half tons but i wish they wouldnt have ever started that. i hate a 10 bolt rearend. i have one in my 2000 and its the biggest POS ive ever seen. id rather have a 12 bolt or a 14 bolt even under a half ton truck.

i plan on doing a SAS to my truck with a dana 60 out of a ford f350 78-9 model with the king pins and a 14B FF out of a newer body gm 2500hd model so i can keep a rear disk brake set up.

buck440 most likely you will have 3.73 gears on a HP dana 44 front with prob. a 12b rear. not sure on that but i might be completely wrong. but needless to say a 12b rear and a HP dana 44 front will still be no match to a set of 38 boggers. these tires eat literally. and when they grab traction stuff breaks. ive been to all to many mud boggs and watched the guys that run boggers when the truck catches the bottom of the pit they snap drivelines, axles, R&P gears. etc....boggers will claim your 1500 axles victom trust me

[buck440]

now you guys are starting to talk me out of 38's:( i just want a daily driver that i can pull off in a plowed muddy cornfield and say watch this in...maby i'll just settle for 35's:grr:

[hypersnyper6947]

Nothin wrong with some 35s i just dropped from 37s to 35s on my f-250, it is a good change i 20% better fuel economy now and my new tires dont hum or rub like the 37" mud grapplers i had on it before. I actually think it even looks better with the smaller tires too believe it or not. 38" boggers will claim lots of parts, expensive parts and you'll get 8 mpg if your lucky. The hum gets real old and boggers will hum more than the mud grapplers i had. just my .02

[TCracin440ex]

Originally posted by hypersnyper6947
Nothin wrong with some 35s i just dropped from 37s to 35s on my f-250, it is a good change i 20% better fuel economy now and my new tires dont hum or rub like the 37" mud grapplers i had on it before. I actually think it even looks better with the smaller tires too believe it or not. 38" boggers will claim lots of parts, expensive parts and you'll get 8 mpg if your lucky. The hum gets real old and boggers will hum more than the mud grapplers i had. just my .02


you are right bout them boggers claiming alot of parts. a 35 bogger would still look good, the ol 350 with stock 3.73 gears in the truck would still have the *** to turn em over and you would have more fun with a tire you can turn over and throw roost opposed to a tire that your truck barely lugs arround that you 4wheel with you have to 4wheel in low range just to be able to turn the tires

[buck440]

yah i'll just put 35's on it and prolly have some 38's swampers to put on for special occasions

[KXRida]

Honestly 35's sound like a better tire size for you. They're not a bad size tire and you'd probably be fine with them. Right now I'm running a Pro comp knock off (mastercraft, still a pretty decent tire) because I missed the buy one get one free deal. Not bad tires. They do fairly well in the mud, but they're a nice trail tire.

I'm still in the process of tossing my D35 under my ranger. I was going to go the SAS route, but with future plans for the truck it looks like I'll be going more long travel than SAS so I'm going to keep a traction beam for now. So far the 8.8 is holding well. I knew it was only a matter of time until my 7.5 was going to die, so I tossed in some 4.88's in the 8.8 and she's doing pretty well. Hoping to pick up a set of deaver race packs in a few months and start tearing apart my traction beam 50. After that gotta start saving for shocks and bumps.

[fastredrider44]

:blah: Sounds like your getting the idea. :bandit:

[Rastus]

I guess you will have to decide what you really want to do with this truck, then you can decide what tire. I just sold a 77 Ford with 38.5X15X15 boggers and mini spools front and rear. It was 1/2 ton, and I broke the ears off a front axle stub one time. You can get by without buying expensive axles and parts, you just have to pay attention to how hard you're running and don't get it on it real hard unless the front tires are straight. The time I broke it, I had the wheels turned and it was on a large rock while the other tires were in mud.

If you have stock rims, just forget about 15 inch wide boggers.
You souldn't have much problem as far as power goes.

Personally, I think having two seperate sets of swamper boggers isn't a good idea since they run $1100 for a set of four(not including rims). I actually have a set of 38.5X11X15 I'm trying to sell. ;)

Also, I don't remember if you said it was auto or manual. If it's manual and a 78, you can get by with the gears you have since those trannies had a pretty low first gear in them. If it's auto, a set of gears or a new rear axle and new front gears are in order.

You will want to look at which transfer case you have also, the chain ones are junk for any hard wheeling. Chain ones have an aluminum housing, the good style you want will have a cast iron case.

Your axles you will most likely have problems with eventually. It doesn't totally matter what size of bogger you have, the bogger tires grip hard. You most likely have a dana 44 front, and a GM 10-12 bolt rear. If you choose to regear, don't go crazy low on the rear with a 10 bolt rear. Reason being, with 4.56s and numerically higher you lose teeth on your pinion gear, which means more pressure on one tooth of the pinion. If you switch it out to a 12-14 bolt you won't have as much of a problem with this.

[TCracin440ex]

rastus long time no talk man. hows the ol 350SB goin?

i do believe his truck has the the 12 bolt if its a 78 model. they didnt start using the 10 bolts till 81