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Antny100
03-31-2009, 11:43 PM
I was just thinking... There are a lot of Cannondale rollers out there for sale. I've seen some YZ426/Cannondale hybrids, as well as other engines in Dale frames. Dose anyone have info on what is entailed in fab'ing a 426 or CRF into a Dale frame?
racerx573
04-01-2009, 06:18 AM
It's a rather simple conversion. A new lower engine cradle needs to be made and new motor mounts.

Call JB, they made one of these with a YZ426.


Personally I'd like to see one done with a CRF motor (especially a 2009).

And with the Walsh 250R conversion kit for plastic, etc.
vAnS_77
04-03-2009, 04:18 PM
good luck trying to get that to line up. EFI and all.
ZRider400
04-03-2009, 07:31 PM
I believe the 09 motor would actually be an easier swap ( maybe not the electrical) but overall the motor is alot shorter now.
spanky101
04-03-2009, 07:40 PM
Honestly it would proboly be a very easy swap, a smaller motor so less space issues and just get the electrical harness from a crf and all the sensors and stuff and your set. It may help that the dale was efi already, im not sure tho
vAnS_77
04-04-2009, 07:17 AM
Thats alot of electrical to take care of. Props to you if you can pull it off. It will be a first.
spanky101
04-04-2009, 09:43 AM
There was a guy who put efi from an 09 on a trx. he said it was a fairly simple swap
vAnS_77
04-04-2009, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by spanky101
There was a guy who put efi from an 09 on a trx. he said it was a fairly simple swap

Can I get some pics and info please?
spanky101
04-04-2009, 05:35 PM
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=374194&perpage=13&pagenumber=7

It was in that thread, it was Chris 281. He didnt have any pictures because it was for a customer and didnt have a chance to get the pictures.
hontrx265r
04-06-2009, 11:36 PM
Not a Hybrid but maybe someday it would make a great crf donor. Just finished building this last week, this was round one at the track. Went really well.
spanky101
04-07-2009, 10:24 AM
Thats a nice looking dale!! I love the 250r plastics on there!
ilse928
06-06-2009, 03:59 AM
HI.
WE DONE A CANNONDALE WITH A KTM 300 WORKS PERFECT LT500R MOTOR AND A HUSABERG 501 .
HUSABERG WAS EASY SWAP TO DO SPROCKET ON SAME SIDE AND IT FIT IN AT THE BACK BETWEEN THE SWINGARM MOUNT WITH NO MOD. THE KTM LC4 MOTOR WILL WORK THE SAME SPROKET ON LEFT SIDE
HUSABERG 501 MOTOR VERY FAST.
THE AIR INTAKE JUST TOOK SOME TIME.
800screws
06-06-2009, 06:28 AM
how about a pic of the cannondale with the 500 for us suzuki lovers!
250x_kyle
06-06-2009, 07:15 AM
you would have to figure out how to flip the rear end around so the sprokets on the right side. ive been thinking about building one this fall. if my yz motor doesnt sell i will.
ilse928
06-06-2009, 09:32 AM
THE GUY WHO BUILD THE PIPES FOR 2 STROKES .
WILL POST MORE PICKS JUST NEED TO LOAD THEM ON MY PC.
ilse928
06-06-2009, 09:57 AM
HOND CR500 MOTOR IN CANNONDALE BUT SWAP IT OUT FOR KTM 300. CR500 VIBRATE TO MUCH
800screws
06-06-2009, 10:14 AM
oh man! gotta post more when u get them. thanks
ilse928
06-06-2009, 10:42 AM
IT IS EASY TO FLIP AROUND.JUST PULL THE HOLE BEARING CARRIER OUT WITH THE AXLE AND PUT IT BACK FROM THE OTHER SIDE JUST NEED TO TAKE THE ONE WHEEL OF WITH THE HUB IF YOU STAND BEHINDE YOUR BIKE THE LEFT WHEEL WITH HUB. I WILL POST YOU A PICK OF THE HOLE THING WHEN IT IS TURN ARROUND AND THE SMALL BRACKET YOU MUST MAKE FOR THE BRAKE.
ilse928
06-07-2009, 03:28 AM
QUADZILLA MOTOR
ilse928
06-07-2009, 03:39 AM
MY YFZ WITH ZILLA MOTOR
ilse928
06-07-2009, 03:47 AM
KTM 250 IN DALE
ilse928
06-07-2009, 03:52 AM
KTM 300 AND LT500R DALES
ilse928
06-07-2009, 03:55 AM
LT500R
jboz5786
06-07-2009, 08:31 AM
Wow seeing all of those modded dales makes me want to ditch my trx 250r and buy one of these!!
woodsracer144
07-03-2009, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by hontrx265r
Not a Hybrid but maybe someday it would make a great crf donor. Just finished building this last week, this was round one at the track. Went really well.

is thec-dale chassis stiff or does it flex?? i;ve heard the new alum chassis are stiffer then hell... kinda like bikes where when they first came out...
ilse928
07-07-2009, 02:47 AM
NO FLEX IT IS STIFF
bsmith106
07-08-2009, 05:52 PM
How is the vibration on the ktm 300? Everyone says that bike motors shake to much in atv frames, but i wonder how much is from hands on knowledge. Id like to install a yz 250 engine in a 400ex chassis but wonder if it would shake to bad and how the gearing would work out?
ilse928
07-10-2009, 10:11 AM
THE VIBTATION NOW IS 1/2 WHAT IT WAS WITH CANNONDALE MOTOR . 300 AND 250S HAVE LOW VIBRATION. STAY AWAY FROM 500 2 STOKES
bsmith106
07-10-2009, 07:31 PM
thats good to hear. is first gear really tall or top gear relly short ? Thats the one other thing that keeps me from trying it. Ive heard its hard to get dirtbike engines geared correctly in an atv chassis.
vAnS_77
07-11-2009, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by bsmith106
thats good to hear. is first gear really tall or top gear relly short ? Thats the one other thing that keeps me from trying it. Ive heard its hard to get dirtbike engines geared correctly in an atv chassis.

2 strokes do not have balanced cranks. Thats why the vibration is such a big deal.
MotoX_Racer07
07-12-2009, 06:08 PM
No the reason these motors vibrate is actually due to being non counterbalanced. Not the crank being balanced. The TRX250R Has a counterbalancer so vibration would be no issue with it. The vast majority of Dirtbike motors normally do not have a counterbalancer.