Dont buy Dell!! [Archive] - ATV Riders Forum

Extremeracer167

03-02-2009, 05:22 PM

I know this has nothing to do with ATVs in any way, but it is something i would like to share with my fellow riders.

Dont buy a Dell Computer!!!

Reason being. I just recently purchased a new desktop from them. Which took me 5 weeks to get the computer after i placed the order, because we all know it takes them probably 15 minutes to slap a computer together, but i still had to wait that long. Anyways, after i got the computer I did not get a chance to use it within the first few weeks due to me being away for that period of time. When i finally got home and had a chance to hook it up i was quick to find out that it wasnt working correctly. So i called Dell support to try and work out the problems. The CD/DVD player wasnt working, and for some reason the computer would not let me stay connected to the internet.

So first off, i had to pay an extra$136.75 to my already existing warranty program just so i could speak to someone from north america so i could understand what they were saying. After spending about 50 min. on the phone with a technician and him not being able to figure out why the cd player wasnt working, he had me take the side of the tower apart. And to my surprise they didnt even have the cd drive hooked up to the mother board. So after i had to fix my BRAND NEW computer just to play a cd, we tried to tackle the internet problem.

Well after spending another hour and a half on the phone with the dell tech. He could not figure out why its kicking me off. Turned off the firewall, anti-virus, tried everything. And its not my internet because it works on my other computers.

So i contacted dell again to try and return the computer, but they wont do it because it wasnt within their 21 day return period. So now im stuck with a computer that wont allow me to access the internet and did not initially have the cd player installed correctly until i had to do it. So beware of dell and their horribly failing company and products. hopefully none of you will have these problems, but im just letting you all know.......think twice before you buy a dell.

1fastR

03-02-2009, 06:48 PM

thats what I'm using to type this useless post with

03pete

03-02-2009, 06:57 PM

I have nothing but good things to say about dell myself.

ridered11

03-02-2009, 07:07 PM

Dude you're getting a Dell.

http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/delldude.jpg

Extremeracer167

03-02-2009, 07:29 PM

well im glad it worked out for you, i have always been satisfied with dell......before now. The thing that really makes me sour about it is......they wont do anything to help me now, except sit on the phone with them for hours trying to fix it. Its something i shouldnt have to do with a brand new computer. But maybe im just overreacting.

03-02-2009, 07:33 PM

I have hated Dell with a passion since maybe 95'? I refuse to buy Dell. I dont like them and you can only use Dell parts in them. Some even have a special damn key to open the case.

meankfx

03-02-2009, 07:37 PM

sounds to me like a bunch of bull **** customer service. I don't think ur overreacting.

Warnerade

03-02-2009, 07:58 PM

I've had mine for about 8 years now and its still going strong. Little glitch here and there, but probably due to my over use of internet porn. It doesnt download itself ya know.

TRX_450

03-02-2009, 08:50 PM

i bought a $350 dell monitor in october and the backlight went out last week. called dell and they told me to go f*** myself pretty much. stupid indian dude i talked to told me there was nothing they could do because i bought it from a retailer. dont buy dell!

elite ATV1

03-02-2009, 09:04 PM

deathcorefan2

03-02-2009, 09:07 PM

Hewlett Packard FTW!

03-02-2009, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by deathcorefan2
Hewlett Packard FTW!

word. i'm completely satisfied with my HP.

insaneracin2003

03-02-2009, 09:49 PM

The only problem I have with my new Dell is that it is a 64 bit browser and it won't install adobe flash player until adobe gets the 64 bit thing right. i cant watch videos on you tube with a 64 bit browser.
anyone know how to downgrade to the 32 bit browser?

mittman

03-02-2009, 10:37 PM

Man that sucks.
Right now im using my dell dimension E310(4 years old) only problem I have had with it is if I want to burn a cd(the colored ones blue,red,black,yellow) it will only burn on the black ones. I have no idea why. Then I got a HP compaq 6715b and it will throw its fits like if a page is loading and I open a new one it will just shut off then once restarted it will say the system has recovered from a serious error. Other than that I am happy with my Dell and my HP.

insaneracin2003

03-02-2009, 10:41 PM

I got my problem fixed....32 bit browsers are the default browsers....

hypersnyper6947

03-02-2009, 10:41 PM

Yea i would never buy a dell every person i know that has a dell has had some ridiculous problem with it. They all suck IMO. My hp has been awesome and my girls mac that i always use is the bomb. Next computer i buy will be a mac they are amazing.

06 Honda 450R

03-02-2009, 10:52 PM

the pissed off guy in the recording sounds like Don Vito:D

airmobile101

03-03-2009, 04:38 AM

Nothing really good or bad about them to say. Im running a Dimension 4500. The funny thing about tech support in general, is its sourced out to India. They put a India person on the phone that claims to speak english, the individual might, but they don't understand slang. Its bad enough trying to understand what they are saying, but as soon as you say, "WUZ UP" or "Yea, this thing just went down under on me", You just then totally confused the F#ck out of them:D . The only english they understand is dictionary english. Now imagine a city hood brotha trying to call tech support, that will go nowhere in a hurry! DOWN WITH THE INDIA CALL CENTERS!!!:cuss:

One positive I had with PC's. I once had a Compaq and had a modem fry on me. Tech support was great and they actually sent a guy out to replace the modem free of charge. Not under warranty either!

ProspectorJim

03-03-2009, 05:39 AM

Build one yourself. It's much easier than you would thing. You pay less than half as much and the only thing you don't get is a ****ty warranty that doesn't cover anything.

sprayedgt

03-03-2009, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by ProspectorJim
Build one yourself. It's much easier than you would thing. You pay less than half as much and the only thing you don't get is a ****ty warranty that doesn't cover anything.

I was just about to suggest that same thing. You can build a nasty machine that has 10 times better parts than anything you can buy off the shelf if you just do it yourself. All in all a computer is simple plug and play. The major computer makers so called "customize" feature is the biggest load of BS I have ever heard. But as far a Dell quality goes I have never had a problem with any of the products from them. I'm on a Dell Latitude laptop typing this reply and never had a problem with it.

ThreeDollaBills

03-03-2009, 08:06 AM

Not buying a dell is a given. They have sucked from day one, overpriced, and horrible costumer service.

BUILD YOUR OWN COMPUTERS PEOPLE. = not ROCKETSCIENCE

Ralph

03-03-2009, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by insaneracin2003
The only problem I have with my new Dell is that it is a 64 bit browser and it won't install adobe flash player until adobe gets the 64 bit thing right. i cant watch videos on you tube with a 64 bit browser.
anyone know how to downgrade to the 32 bit browser?

It most likely is already installed, you just need to look around for it. Otherwise, download firefox. Actually, i would download firefox anyway...

coryatver

03-03-2009, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by insaneracin2003
The only problem I have with my new Dell is that it is a 64 bit browser and it won't install adobe flash player until adobe gets the 64 bit thing right. i cant watch videos on you tube with a 64 bit browser.
anyone know how to downgrade to the 32 bit browser?

you need a 32 bit computer. 64 bits means you have a 64 bit processor everything has to be 64 bit to work. Wanting to install a 32 bit browser thats like trying to install a 250ex head on a 400ex

Ralph

03-03-2009, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by coryatver
you need a 32 bit computer. 64 bits means you have a 64 bit processor. Wanting to install a 32 bit browser thats like trying to install a 250ex head on a 400ex

Most of the stuff is backwards compatible... you shouldn't have a problem installing most 32bit software and if you do there is probably a 64bit alternative. I rarely run into issues.

sprayedgt

03-03-2009, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by Ralph
Otherwise, download firefox. Actually, i would download firefox anyway...

There's something besides Firefox :confused: That's always the first thing I do is install Mozilla when I build a new computer. The only thing IE is good for is...well nothing that I can think of.

scuzz

03-03-2009, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by deathcorefan2
Hewlett Packard FTW!

Working in IT for nearly 15 years now and having ordered literally thousands of Dells and HP's I can say that HP was garbage and the Dell was 100 times better. They all had issues but the Dell's sucked way, WAY less.

ZeroLogic

03-03-2009, 08:32 AM

Any big box brand computers are ****.;)

scuzz

03-03-2009, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by ThreeDollaBills

BUILD YOUR OWN COMPUTERS PEOPLE. = not ROCKETSCIENCE

This is a great alternative for some people, but most it is not since they wouldn't know what most of the parts do, much less on what the warning signs of a failure are. When the parts do fail YOU are your own tech and YOU have to go get the parts. With OEM equipment manufacturers this is a less painful process, it's still painful but a lot less. I'll have to show you some pictures of the last time my parents tried to work on their PC. The case was all bent outta shape and components were cracked...it was bad.

ThreeDollaBills

03-03-2009, 08:39 AM

Never hurts to get online and do a little research. I manned a whole high school of 400 computers, and a database server with no knowledge. Most people are just too lazy to read up on some stuff. It's really not that hard. I didn't have someone show me how to do it. If I can self teach myself, then anyone can lol

ThreeDollaBills

03-03-2009, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by deathcorefan2
Hewlett Packard FTW!

Ya HP's are ****. The only name brand computer out there that is worth the money is Apple or IBM(Lenovo)

scuzz

03-03-2009, 08:41 AM

True, but you're not in your 60's like most of the baby boomers. I bet less than 10% could build and troubleshoot a PC.

I have fierce Nerditude so I can do anything PC-related. :D

Originally posted by ThreeDollaBills
Ya HP's are ****. The only name brand computer out there that is worth the money is Apple or IBM(Lenovo) \

Lenovo's are awesome laptops. I've had three over the years and liked them WAY better than my Dells that I have had.

Apple doesn't integrate with a lot of business software out there. Also, until Apple starts allowing people to load their OS on machines other than what Apple builds they won't be in the business sector like they have the potential of being.

ThreeDollaBills

03-03-2009, 08:44 AM

Well same here. I'm a computer/networking nerd now. I was referencing when I was like ten years old sitting at home during the summer bored. I would always be messing with computers and looking things up on the enet.

ThreeDollaBills

03-03-2009, 08:45 AM

It just urks me sometimes because most of the time it seems like people just dont want to try to learn.

scuzz

03-03-2009, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by ThreeDollaBills
It just urks me sometimes because most of the time it seems like people just dont want to try to learn.

Are you kidding me! Those people are the reason my salary is so high. lol!

ThreeDollaBills

03-03-2009, 08:49 AM

Lol I know. Me too, but it's like. I'm working on something important, and then I get a call with some idiot saying, "my computer doesn't have email on it."

Just because the damn icon isn't on the desktop... I mean they can't figure out if you go start>all programs>ms office>etc... Such a waste of time.. lol

sprayedgt

03-03-2009, 08:52 AM

You have to understand that not everyone has the mechanical ability to work on things. These are the same people blowing up their engines after putting the oil filter on backwards. I find it very easy myself, but others would rather just buy a cookie cutter PC at the store.

krt400ex

03-03-2009, 08:53 AM

i am sitting here on my moms macbook :D

scuzz

03-03-2009, 08:55 AM

Yeah those calls always interrupted my gaming when I worked in desktop.

ProspectorJim

03-03-2009, 08:56 AM

I used to be way into computers before quads too. Its not hard to learn. There are plenty of forums filled with people that will help you alot, like atvriders only with computers, computerriders?

Anyway, get a commodore 64.

scuzz

03-03-2009, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by ProspectorJim

Anyway, get a commodore 64.

...and a time machine.

ThreeDollaBills

03-03-2009, 09:02 AM

uehehehehe :)

brian76708

03-03-2009, 09:16 AM

i havent had any problems with my dell XPS laptop. i was going to build my own but i wanted a labtop for college so i bought from dell but after college im definitely going to build my own.

deathman53

03-03-2009, 10:28 AM

I have a compaq desktop. It was slow and has pops-up everyone, all this uesless software installed. I tried to get rid of the crap, I only could get ~1/2. I brought it to a computer shop, they got rid of the all the crap and it ran 1,000,000 times better.

Some time later, something starting happening and some keys on the keboard stopped working, called compaq and they said to send it in. Turned out to be a problem with some of the keyboards on a certain # of machines. I got it back in 2 weeks, all the garbage was back on it, loaded with spyware. I called them about it, they said they have to install all this useless crap to ease it use and since I removed it, they had to put it back. I told them, I removed it because it made the computer run like crap, pop-ups everywhere and all that stuff was extremely annoying, now I have to pay the computer place to remove all this crap again. They said that they would give a discount if I wanted buy another from them. The computer place removed all the crap again and it turned out that compaq put more on this time. I'll never buy a big company computer.

The place told me of a general warning to owners of the big company computers, they use the cheapest stuff they can and they showed me an add from dell recently and an add of theirs 2 years ago. It turns out the computer place used the same processor(2 years) the the big company uses now and it looked it up on-line and it turns out that the processor that dell uses is scheduled to be soon discontinued and is now heavy discounted. Most of the computer that the "big places" build have the audio, video, modem, network and controller cards built onto the main board and once they go, its impossible to fix them. Also, if you want to upgrade the memeory, say its 100mb and you want 200mb, the big places uses 2 50 mb chips(they are cheaper, 2 50mb chips cost less than one 100mb chip). So now if you want to upgrade the memory, you have to buy 2 matching chips instead of one chip to match the old ones size. The big companies just give a desription of the parts they use, when analyzed, they are slower than easily available and current parts, also most the of the drives the big places use are on the "heavy discounted, soon discontinued" list. The computer place gives you all the books, disk's, etc for the hardware and I looked to see if its on that status, it wasn't. Now I realize some of this might be the computer place talking crap about competition and overexagerating some. My own experiences with a compaq verify most of what they said.

sprayedgt

03-03-2009, 10:39 AM

That's why if you do buy a ready made computer you ALWAYS make sure nothing that is common to crap out is integrated into the motherboard. Cuts cost to build and makes the uninformed consumer buy a new one when the old one takes a dump. It's a win win situation for the computer makers.

buck440

03-03-2009, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by elite ATV1
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:macho that is the most funny call i've ever heard.

ThreeDollaBills

03-03-2009, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by buck440
that is the most funny call i've ever heard.

Wow. Priceless stuff. That guy was crazy.

sprayedgt

03-03-2009, 12:45 PM

Sounds like some back woods red neck that has never, EVER used a computer before in his life. God I thought everybody knew that as the last resort to turn off your computer:rolleyes:

Extremeracer167

03-03-2009, 01:56 PM

well actually i did build my own computer last time, but decided to just try a dell.....i know STUPID MOVE. I just had problems with my motherboard last time, and asus screwed me over with that, so thats why i tried dell again. Like i said, i had dells before and they worked great. But this time just sent me over the edge

deathcorefan2

03-03-2009, 02:23 PM

wow that HP ftw thing was a joke..
i run custom.

with a modded version of windows xp.
it is XP Indego.

heh.

631kfx400

03-03-2009, 04:10 PM

my opinion is that HP is the best . well exept apple. but its the best of the vista computers and xp. i have a HP laptop with vista and i love it:)

sprayedgt

03-03-2009, 04:34 PM

Most of the problems with new computers isn't the computer or manufacturer. It's the POS Vista they load on it. Nothing but problems and no true fixes for the bugs it has. It's much slower starting up and shutting down. It's really just a different version of XP, one that IS NOT stable. Your best bet is to get rid of Vista and go with XP. All the money Microsoft has spent on recent commercials praising Vista is for one thing....TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S OPINION ON THEIR CRAPPY OS.

Drewltr450

03-03-2009, 05:13 PM

Apple for life

Warnerade

03-03-2009, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by sprayedgt
Most of the problems with new computers isn't the computer or manufacturer. It's the POS Vista they load on it. Nothing but problems and no true fixes for the bugs it has. It's much slower starting up and shutting down. It's really just a different version of XP, one that IS NOT stable. Your best bet is to get rid of Vista and go with XP. All the money Microsoft has spent on recent commercials praising Vista is for one thing....TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S OPINION ON THEIR CRAPPY OS. i keep hearing this, but I have had absolutely no trouble with vista at all, in the year and a half that I've had it.

08mxkfx

03-03-2009, 07:29 PM

Apple FTW!!!!

Ralph

03-03-2009, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Warnerade
i keep hearing this, but I have had absolutely no trouble with vista at all, in the year and a half that I've had it.

word

brian76708

03-03-2009, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by 08mxkfx
Apple FTW!!!!

if you like buying a computer with equal capabilities for almost double the price go for it or you could just download ubuntu and your dell hp or compaq could be bulletproof.

250x_kyle

03-03-2009, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by sprayedgt
Most of the problems with new computers isn't the computer or manufacturer. It's the POS Vista they load on it. Nothing but problems and no true fixes for the bugs it has. It's much slower starting up and shutting down. It's really just a different version of XP, one that IS NOT stable. Your best bet is to get rid of Vista and go with XP. All the money Microsoft has spent on recent commercials praising Vista is for one thing....TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S OPINION ON THEIR CRAPPY OS.

let me guess u actually beleived the mac commercial. vista is not that bad. mac just spent a ton of money TALKING SMACK ON VISTA for people to beleive to put them agead of the game.

sprayedgt

03-04-2009, 05:20 AM

It wasn't the commercials that lead me to believe it is full of problems. It's my degree in Computer Science that tells me this. You may not have problems with it. But if you knew the actual inner workings you would see why I have the view I do. I was able to see the OS about a year before it was released. By Microsoft's own admittance it was released too early.

ThreeDollaBills

03-04-2009, 08:13 AM

Yea, I was not impressed with Vistas beta release or it's early release. Vista really shouldn't exist right now. They should have just held off on it and just made windows 7.

Purcell450r

03-04-2009, 11:28 AM

I have three Dells. Two e1505 laptops and one XPS desktop, no problems for me.

XCAdam89

03-04-2009, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Purcell450r
I have three Dells. Two e1505 laptops and one XPS desktop, no problems for me.

I also have an XPS Laptop, running as a desktop hooked up to two monitors and running dreamweaver, flash, and photoshop on a daily basis. I've had no problems whatsoever with it.

I'll build my desktop myself though via tigerdirect.

ThreeDollaBills

03-04-2009, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by XCAdam89
I also have an XPS Laptop, running as a desktop hooked up to two monitors and running dreamweaver, flash, and photoshop on a daily basis. I've had no problems whatsoever with it.

I'll build my desktop myself though via tigerdirect.

Ya, but your Dell XPS laptop =$2000

That is a ripoff IMHO. I got an ASUS laptop that would blow any XPS out of the water for $750 on sale.

mephyst

03-04-2009, 02:03 PM

I have been building my own desktops now for the past 6 years and it is the only way to go. I worked at a computer store 3 years ago and bought a computer that was on sale + my discount + a rebate for like $150 bucks. I'm using that computer right now and it still works beautifully and is plenty fast for any normal internet searching/office applications.

My $1400 gaming system I just built about a year ago is a different story. It is still about as good as it gets.

I have 3 laptops... 2 Compaq's and one new HP. The new HP laptops are having major overheating issues. Sometimes it works for days and sometimes after using it 5mins it will just shut off. HP doesn't care though... My older Compaq's run everything I need to do on a laptop, basically just homework and searching on the net... and I have never had a single problem with them.

I erase Vista and still use Windows XP Pro on all of my computers.

As for Dells- I have never had any major issues with them. My dad still buys and uses Dell computers and any time he has ever had a problem Dell has sent someone out and fixed it at our house. I still have a Dell 1.0ghz from like 10 years ago sitting in my closet that still runs strong on all original parts.

Honestly, your computer probably just has a bad network card. Go buy a new one for less than 10 bucks... its not the end of the world but I do think that Dell should have better customer service than that. That is ridiculous!! They should be sending you a new one.

scuzz

03-04-2009, 02:15 PM

Just an FYI but I had a lenovo T60p that would overhear constantly.

XCAdam89

03-04-2009, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by ThreeDollaBills
Ya, but your Dell XPS laptop =$2000

That is a ripoff IMHO. I got an ASUS laptop that would blow any XPS out of the water for $750 on sale.

I paid no where near 2k for mine..I got it on sale through my college bookstore for a little over 1k...with the drop and break warranty and all.

Macbook Pro's are pushing 3k and there's plenty of laptops out there that are comparable for much less.

brian76708

03-04-2009, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by ThreeDollaBills
Ya, but your Dell XPS laptop =$2000

That is a ripoff IMHO. I got an ASUS laptop that would blow any XPS out of the water for $750 on sale.

what mghz is your processor clocked at and your how many gigs of ram do you have if you think this. XPS are hard to get over 2,000 unless you get the best of everything.

ThreeDollaBills

03-04-2009, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by XCAdam89
I paid no where near 2k for mine..I got it on sale through my college bookstore for a little over 1k...with the drop and break warranty and all.

Macbook Pro's are pushing 3k and there's plenty of laptops out there that are comparable for much less.

You're comparing Apple to Windows. Apple is a WHOLE different story when it comes to price. They have no competitors. Nothing else can run the Mac operating systems besides Apple. That is why they are 3k in price.

As for your XPS. You bought it from a school. Not everyone has the luxury of getting discounts from school. So I'm ruling out that as a possibility.

ThreeDollaBills

03-04-2009, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by brian76708
what mghz is your processor clocked at and your how many gigs of ram do you have if you think this. XPS are hard to get over 2,000 unless you get the best of everything.

Well if you talk mghz with your XPS then I feel sorry for you.

I'm running 2.26GHz not overclocked. I can get it to almost 3GHz without overheating.

I also have 4GB DDR3, yes 3 not 2.

nvidia 9800M GS 512MB DDR3. 512MB DDR2.

All for 750. Build an XPS at those specs and tell me the price...

brian76708

03-04-2009, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by ThreeDollaBills
Well if you talk mghz with your XPS then I feel sorry for you.

I'm running 2.26GHz not overclocked. I can get it to almost 3GHz without overheating.

I also have 4GB DDR3, yes 3 not 2.

nvidia 9800M GS 512MB DDR3. 512MB DDR2.

All for 750. Build an XPS at those specs and tell me the price...

i was just wondering what your specs were being u say it would blow a xps out of the water and yes i meant Ghz. and by the way im running 2.6 ghz with a 4gb but it is ddr2 of ram. which you can get for $1500 with out a discount. I havent been able to find a ASUS that is close to 750 with your specs. Oh and you can put apples OSX system on any computer. that is why apples are pointless because it is there OP is why they dont get viruses

suck my pipe

03-04-2009, 04:00 PM

Should have bought a Mac.

Purcell450r

03-04-2009, 04:40 PM

My XPS was $1103, thank you.

ThreeDollaBills

03-04-2009, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by suck my pipe
Should have bought a Mac.
I have a macbook pro that I do video editing and photo editing on for my aunts photography business. I love it a lot. I'm really glad I have it. It's just convenient to have a MS OS for my actual work.

ThreeDollaBills

03-04-2009, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by brian76708
i was just wondering what your specs were being u say it would blow a xps out of the water and yes i meant Ghz. and by the way im running 2.6 ghz with a 4gb but it is ddr2 of ram. which you can get for $1500 with out a discount. I havent been able to find a ASUS that is close to 750 with your specs. Oh and you can put apples OSX system on any computer. that is why apples are pointless because it is there OP is why they dont get viruses

http://promos.asus.com/US/eblast/G50Vt_NVIDIA/index.html There is the laptop I have. It says DDR2 ram, but I upgraded to DDR3 with what I saved when it was on sale. It cost me about the same as the 949 dollar price.

And yes you can put OSX on windows machines, but reliability is iffy. So I would stick to putting OSX on Macs, and stay away from windows.