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slosh13
03-02-2009, 03:46 PM
This thread is a going to be giving a behind the scenes look at how I will be setting my race and practice bikes up for the ATVA MX Nationals for 2009. I hope the information provided in this overview might help other racers set their own quads up for motocross or help casual riders make their quads more fun and reliable for motocross. There will be step by step pictures as I go along as well as pictures of the parts being used and an in depth description of the entire build from the frame to the finished product.

Let’s start this build off with a list of all the part that will be used:

Walsh Racecraft
A25 Flow A-Arms +3 with Tie Rod Kit, Savior Swingarm and Linkage,
+1 Stem, Parking Brake Blockoff, Oversized Stem Clamp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/walsh4.jpg

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All the Walsh hardware
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/walshhard.jpg

PEP Shocks- PB1 Rebound and compression adjustable fronts and dual rate rear, chain roller

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/pep1.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/pepcr1.jpg

Rage ATV -Tranny Mod, Custom Porting, Cam, Piston, valves, springs, and Carb Work, stock clutch Basket, clutch fiber & plates.

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DWT Wheels- 10x5 4+1 Ultimate conventional center & 8x8 Rear Beadlocks

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Rath Racing- MX Bumper, MX Grab Bar, Competition heelguard Nerfs with monster pegs, All Powdercoated Gloss black

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/rath1.jpg

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Quad-Tech ATV- Carbon Fiber II hood

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/hoods.jpg

Fasst Company- Handlebars, Brake clevis, antivibe handlebar inserts

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Sparks Racing- Classic Exhaust with bigcore upgrade

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Streamline Performance Braking- 3-Line Front Brakelines (Red), Rear Brakeline (Red), blade front and rear brake rotors

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Cycra- Handguards (red)

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Precision Racing Products- Steering Stabilizer

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Tokyo mods- remapped ignition

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/Tokyomods201020Map20Ignition.jpg

CV4- red Radiator Hoses

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Baldwin Motorsports- billet front hubs, wire harness mod, bearing carrier, brake pedal extension, Anti-Fade Locknut

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Maxxis- razr mx tires yellow label front / rear

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Holz- case saver

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Oury- grips

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/oury1.jpg

Chain / sprockets- Renthal and D.I.D X-ring

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Rich 17- radiator overflow kit, billet engine plugs, graphics

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/rich1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/richplugs.jpg

RPM - Dominator 2 MX Axle

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/axle2.jpg

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Pro design - Air Filters and kill switch

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Spastic Designs – number plates

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/spastic.jpg

slosh13
03-02-2009, 03:47 PM
Powdercoated parts:
Gloss black:

1. frames
2. subframes
3. nerfbars and heelguards
4. tierods
5. grab-bars
6. rear hubs
7. bumpers
8. brake stays
9. fender braces

textured black:

1. wiring brackets
2. oversized handlebar clamps
3. front sprocket washer
4. parking brake blockoff

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/powdercoat.jpg

chrome parts:

1. top & bottom a-arms
2. swingarms
3. steering stems
4. upper and front motor mounts

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/chrome1.jpg

BlackTrx440ex
03-02-2009, 03:50 PM
wow.... those are gunna be 2 completly insane quads!!!

slosh13
03-02-2009, 03:53 PM
This is a photo of 2 new TRX450R frames that were bought directly from Honda.

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The frames were first gussetted and welded by one of my good friends company 65 DESIGNS. There are a few areas to pay attention to when gussetting the frames for MX. One such area is cast upper rear section of the frame that is connected to the top frame rails behind the upper engine mounts. This area of the frame was reinforced with outer tubing welded over the week spot to distribute the forces more evenly and prevent cracking. Also, round tubing gussets were added above the upper front shock mounts and along tubing connections in the front of the frame. Finally, the frame was professionally powder coated gloss black by Capital Powdercoating to set it off.


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First thing I do first is I usually put the motor in the frame to start the project off. This will anchor the frame sturdy while putting on various aftermarket parts. Now If you notice I run a vortex ignition. Traditionally, you run the adjustable switch on the handlebars, but finding myself accidentally hitting it during a race, I mount it right above the right upper shock mount. I take a piece of electrical tape and tape down where the switches location needs to be and now it is out of all the way from flying debris also. In addition to relocating the vortex switch, I also move the RECTIFIER, REGULATOR from the rear position on the sub frame to the front of the frame. I take a 7/32” dill bit and drill two holes to mount with nylon locknuts on the backside to make sure it is secure. By moving the rectifier underneath the plastic and hood, it is hidden from plain view and makes the subframe cleaner. Lastly, taking a DA sander or dremel, I sand the inner part of the front motor mounts and the coil mount on the frame. Now, we have a ground on the frame to where the current of electricity wont be flowing through the powdercoated frame.

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I'm going to work on getting the front end together. I've started by installing the new Walsh MX Flow a25 front end. It uses 20.5" shocks and is +3”. I start off by taking an inventory of the parts and make sure I have everything I need to install the front end without any holdups. Then I grease all the bearings and bushings and then start mounting the arms.

Now, Here is the front end installed with the PEP PB1 shocks. The shocks are triple-rate and have compression and rebound adjustments. At this point spindle-to-spherical joint adapter nuts and lower spherical nuts are tightned. I use loc-tite on all these nuts and use nylon locknuts for added insurance everything willl be secure. The front end is in place with the aarms, spindles, hubs, and front calipers.

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The quad is actually starting to take shape and next I'll be installing the rear swingarm/axle/shock.

First I installed the savior linkage to the lower part of the frame. I had it anodized black to match the color theme. I assemble the swingarm with the hardware provided from walsh which included new bearings, seals, spacers, and outer collars.

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You can see be this picture that the linkage is slightly offset to the right. Walsh updated this design to be like the original CR500 linkage. You get a spacer that must be pressed in the left side of the swingarm. Everything went together flawlessly.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/26.jpg

Finally, I have the rear shock mounted. I also had the springs powdercoated black.

slosh13
03-02-2009, 03:55 PM
Now lets start getting the rear end together. First, I take some emery cloth the clean out the inside of the swingarm. This step insures that the swingarm will be clean for carrier. Next step is I make sure that the carrier is filled with a grease upon installation. Then I put a light coating of grease on the inside of the swingarm and slide the axle/carrier into the swingarm, then the axle follows. Install the disc on the antifade nut and loctite the disc mounting bolts.

Slide the antifade nut onto the axle, put the OEM circlip on and hand tighten the locknut. I am using the stock Honda hubs. The axle is a +1 - +4 and with Douglas wheels run the large spacers on the inside and the small spacers on the outside. If you buy an RPM axle, get the extra-thick sprocket hub- it's only a few dollars more.

When buying an antifade nut, make sure it has a steel sleeve where the seal rides. This keeps the fade nut from wearing out as quick. I also installed the rear hubs, sprocket, caliper, brake stay, subframe, grab-bar, and rear brakeline.

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Fasst Company’s Brake clevis was installed eliminating any play in the brake pedal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/36.jpg


Now we have a rolling chassis, the nerfbars were installed next. Rath’s fit and finish is second to none and they bolted up with no issues.

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Next, I want to get the motor and electrical all buttoned up. I install the carb to the motor and then install the airbox. I take the rear shock canister and mount it using to hose clamps. Traditionally, the canister mounts the rear grabber with a provided mount from PEP. I didn’t like the look of my can hanging that far out incase of a crash, that is the first thing to get ripped off. So I had my shock line shortened and added a larger can and mounted it right up next to the airbox. Now, it is tucked up out of the way. If you would like to have this done, SF Racing is the place to call.

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Now I install my air filter in the airbox. This is my choice for a filter system. I have run K&N filters in the past, but I like the extra protection of a dual-layer foam filter. The 450 motors make such good power that it's not like your trying to squeeze every bit of power out of the quad anyway.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/dscf0093.jpg

Motor rebuild on the four-strokes are costly; I think it's worth giving up some hp for better filtration. The Pro Design filter kit is real easy to install and with the 06 airbox instead of the 05’, the air filer is huge and pulls twice as much air. Here is an example of the 05’ ring compared to the 06’.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/filerwhoa.jpg

I oil both inner and outer foam elements with Shell rotella 15w40 diesel oil (any traditional motor oil will work) and work the oil into the foam real good.

slosh13
03-02-2009, 03:57 PM
I get the wiring harness, radiator, CV4 hoses, fuel tank, radiator hose kit, oil cooler installed next followed by the exhaust. I've mounted the tank using all the stock hardware and straps. I Loctite the front mount bolts. I put some MR11 octane fuel in the race bike and cam2 in the practice bike to run the quad a little to make sure everything is working properly. I'll run the quad now and then through the build-up to help break in the motor.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/DSC_1001.jpg

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The radiator kit supplied from Rich 17 racing has a billet custom brakeline clamp holding a colored overflow hose. Definitely adds a custom touch and flows with the color scheme.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/DSC_1002.jpg

The Rath bumper was installed next followed by the front brake assembly, steering stem, and tierods.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/41.jpg

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Time to get the controls situated. Here, I've started bolting on the handlebars. They are Flexx quad 14 degree bend. The clutch perch is a Works Connection with thumb-operated hotstart. The clutch lever has two small bearings on the pivot bolt. The CRF450 Works lever assembly needs a different adjusting barrel to fit the large-diameter TRX cable housing, or you can carefully drill out the one that comes with it. I retain the stock thumb throttle and front master cylinder. The grips used are Oury Soft compounds. I have used these for several years with great results. If you use these grips on your quad with a thumb throttle, MAKE SURE you trim the grip flange where the thumb lever is and the hotstart. With the combination of scott grip glue and safety wire, the grips are secure with no worries of having the grips twist while you ride. The handguards are Cycra stealth. I coat all the handguard hardware with loctite.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/yyy.jpg

It's hard to see in this photo, but here I have all the controls in place and only minor adjustments will be needed before riding.

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Once I have the front end and the controls finished up, the precision stabilizer is the last piece of the puzzle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/DSC_1045.jpg

slosh13
03-02-2009, 03:58 PM
I've got the quad pretty much together mechanically. After all the dirty work is finished and no more grinding, drilling, etc is necessary, it's time to install the plastic. I use the stock plastic because it is good quality, fits perfect, and is very inexpensive. My front hood is a Quad-tech carbon fiber with the vent. I use loctite on all the bracket mount bolts and plastic mount bolts, with the exception of the ones threading directly into the tank.

One step that I have waited until the end is to put the chain on. I set my front end up with the proper camber, caster, and toe-in / toe-out specs from Walsh and the ride height specs from SF Racing and PEP. Once this important step is done, I cut the chain the length and install.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/DSC_1028.jpg

Now that both bikes are 99% done, we now have to complete the most important step of the build-up. The graphics and sponsor stickers. This is where you think about who has helped you and who hasn't, and give each company their due share of space on your quad. Pre-printed number plate backgrounds are very easy to install and Spastic Designs makes a phenomenal product. They also make your quad look real clean.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/spastic.jpg

I wipe the plastic down with Goo-Gone or Brake Cleaner on a shop towel before applying the graphics and stickers. This cleans any glue or dirt off the fenders. My graphics are from Rich 17 Racing. They are preprinted with all the sponsors that have helped me along the way of my racing career. I have a large group of individuals that help me out so I make sure they all get there share of space for their contributions to my program.

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slosh13
03-02-2009, 04:00 PM
Once the graphics are on the bikes are 100% complete. Here are a few pictures to show all the various touches and details that went into these projects.


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JJs450r
03-02-2009, 04:02 PM
looks like we will be seeing 2 sick @$$ quads, one question can i come pick some money of the money tree :)

slosh13
03-02-2009, 04:02 PM
This has been a very tedious, time-consuming, and meticulous build of these two bikes. I have used the best parts I feel are out there and am very happy with the way they turned out. The attention to detail, the way everything flows together, the color schemes makes these bikes really stand out. I hope this thread inspires some people to create something special to their bikes on their own builds. I just wanted to say thanks to all the people who have helped on this build. Without them, neither one of these builds of these 2 bikes would have been possible. Thanks you again for all your support!!!

Mom & Dad
Kyle Sands (Sandsjbyz22)
Larry Miner (yz426ex36)
65 Designs- Jake B
Walsh Racecraft- Mike & Nate
SF Racing- Seth & Pete
PEP- Wayne
Rath- Daryl & Jennifer
RPM- Brad
Spastic Designs- Kurt
Precision- George
Rage ATV- Dee & Michele
DWT- Glenn
Moto-X Nutrition- Christian & Jordan
Streamline- Curtis
Quad-Tech- Billy & Hollie
Sidewinder- Scott
Fly- Chris
Pro Quad Peformance- Greg
Weekend Warrior Motorsports- Larry & Brian
Capital Powdercoating- “RH”
Flexx- Chris, Chris, and Cole
Cernic’s- Kyle
Salem Oil- Matt

BlaineKaiser450
03-02-2009, 04:08 PM
OMFG i think i am in love. Those are the sickest looking quads i have EVER seen!!

03-02-2009, 04:08 PM
half of pics dont work.

JJs450r
03-02-2009, 04:18 PM
give them time to load

Drewltr450
03-02-2009, 04:23 PM
Dealer Show Status

Sandsjbyz22
03-02-2009, 04:43 PM
Psshhh not bad for two production quads...

I had alot of fun helping get these two quads ready for this year.

Should be seeing #13 up front quite abit this year at the Nats.

suzukiracer3
03-02-2009, 05:51 PM
Hey man, thanks for the hipers. Bikes look amazing man!!!! Good luck this season, nice work.

bigb189
03-02-2009, 05:52 PM
wow..very nice bikes man..was wondering what the rivet looking things are on the nets for the rath nerfs

michael250
03-02-2009, 06:07 PM
Those are beautiful. Just goes to show the time, money, and effort people are willing to put into these quads.

slosh13
03-02-2009, 06:48 PM
The "rivet things" are actual rivets I used to hold the nets together. I go through nets like its going out of style. All you need is a good leather punch and a rivet gun.

slosh13
03-02-2009, 07:13 PM
Those are the same bikes I parted out. I always try to get new parts every year or every other year. Just try to stay with the new and hot products and got to represent the sponsors new items. I do all the nats and race in the A class with intentions to go to the pro-am later in the season.

vAnS_77
03-02-2009, 07:24 PM
*****in write up. Keep out the good work and good luck!

exrider49
03-02-2009, 07:58 PM
sick bikes..im positive that i seen you at nemx this past saturday because those bikes are such an eye catcher with how everything flows together your hard work on these bikes deff. shows , but yeah i was on a white ltr #131

MX450
03-02-2009, 08:17 PM
d u d e sick bikes! Couple questions, are those QT hoods available new? I thought they stopped making them? And, are the DWT ultimates available to buy already PCed black? AND, seriously, what do you do for a living.. I mean i know sponsors help out a ton, but youve deff still got some cash in those things!

Les Davis
03-02-2009, 11:03 PM
Nice write up Jake and the bikes look f*cking awesome! I love the attention to detail that you put into the build.

Gotta dumb question though, how did you get the wiring harness to work with relocating the rectifier/regulator at the front of the bike at the crossbar? Did you splice the lines to get the lenght needed? I'd like to do something simliar but might conflict with my can for the rear shock which I got tucked under the hood already.

Thanks again for the frame.

conley 450r
03-03-2009, 03:20 AM
nice

03-03-2009, 05:37 AM
you should put red tank covers on em.

fandl450r
03-03-2009, 08:35 AM
Slosh you did a hell of a write of I must say. I'd ask for this to be stickied!

I can only think about how much time and MONEY was put into these :)

Great looking bikes.

BlackTrx440ex
03-03-2009, 08:45 AM
iam pretty sure you can even get rid of the rectifier/regulator when you mod your wiring harness, but iam pretty sure you gotta say goodbye to the fan also... if you do that but those quads are amazing!!!!!

eastside 400
03-03-2009, 09:41 AM
hondarider661: how do you get the tank covers to work on 05 tanks? ive seen people with it and i love the tank cover look so i bought one for mine but theres no way it would look right on the 05 tank that i can see, theres like 1/4-1/2" of gap at the bottom and in front of the seat theres a gap also?

rooster300ex
03-03-2009, 10:03 AM
Talk about eye candy when I seen all them aftermarket parts pics.:D

isma2racer9
03-03-2009, 10:12 AM
those are sick looking, why'd you pick the sparks exhaust? or is it your sponsor

MX450
03-03-2009, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by eastside 400
hondarider661: how do you get the tank covers to work on 05 tanks? ive seen people with it and i love the tank cover look so i bought one for mine but theres no way it would look right on the 05 tank that i can see, theres like 1/4-1/2" of gap at the bottom and in front of the seat theres a gap also?

you gotta get an 08+ gas tank for it to fit nicely, they are a bit smaller than the previous years

03-03-2009, 04:25 PM
Wow those quads are amazing. whats the total build cost?

HBRIG014
03-03-2009, 06:08 PM
NICE BUILD

MAD450r
03-03-2009, 06:25 PM
Very nice detailed write-up. Nice work man I second the add to sticky thing on this one.

I think they look amazing. I love the red and black schemes myself. I also love that your running a few of the parts I have on mine.

I cant ride without flexxbars after owning a set. I love my sparks pipe as well.

tpro450r
03-03-2009, 08:54 PM
those are the sickest quads I have ever seen. You do excellent work, good luck

k265r
03-04-2009, 08:17 PM
why did you go with the 05 motors?

quad313
03-05-2009, 08:25 AM
great work and build Jake-

lowbudget36
03-05-2009, 09:11 AM
did you use the newer style airbox and airboot for the 05? and did it work fine?

slosh13
03-05-2009, 01:38 PM
Actually they are from 05' thanks.

hendershot106
03-05-2009, 01:41 PM
they look fine slosh, obviously people he didnt recieve his engines back from rage until after he sent everthing to capital.

I have an extra cover laying around if you need one to send out while you keep one on your bike

slosh13
03-05-2009, 01:45 PM
Be patient there will be more powdercoating ladies and gents. Thank you for all the comments everyone. I will take note of everything people don't like and correct it and incorporate it my builds next year :D

suzukiracer3
03-05-2009, 01:54 PM
they are perfect the way they are jake. i think im going to get ride of my foxs and get PB1's. i heard nothing but amazing things about them.

slosh13
03-05-2009, 02:05 PM
Hey, hondarider11 the side cases and headcover were planned on getting powdercoated but funds started getting tight when we were getting close to the end of the build. No offense taken either.

mooseracerX
03-05-2009, 05:13 PM
Hey nice quads. Is yours on the sf racing home page?

lowbudget36
03-05-2009, 06:24 PM
hey who did your graphics?

mooseracerX
03-05-2009, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by lowbudget36
hey who did your graphics?
Rich 17

Nick110
03-05-2009, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by slosh13
Hey, hondarider11 the side cases and headcover were planned on getting powdercoated but funds started getting tight when we were getting close to the end of the build. No offense taken either.

see you in A class fairy pants. Nice builds

billet rich
03-06-2009, 09:35 AM
bikes look awsome jake, nice write up, ill get pics from you for my website when it gets done. Rich 17

scuzz
03-06-2009, 12:07 PM
Very nice work!

Joetrx
03-06-2009, 08:41 PM
lot's of hours on that build, really nice bike, keep working on those honda !!

Ex_Rider43
03-06-2009, 08:54 PM
you build those hondas like there is no tommorow , I LIKE IT !!!

motochamp250
03-06-2009, 09:36 PM
i dont think i could get those dirty haha

Modifly
03-07-2009, 12:39 PM
I read somehwere you use 05 motors but if im correct the 05 airboxes link up the the carb under the frame and yours dont. Is is the type of carb your running and what carb is it?

Im currently in the same situation with 2 05's. given me lots of thought of how to approach things. I havent seen that overflow kit and really like it. is there a dealer for it in the UK as i would like to have them on my bikes. :)

eastside 400
03-07-2009, 05:07 PM
06+ airboxes bolt up to FCR carbs in 05 bikes, FCR's are either off of yfz's, CRF's or 06+ TRX's. Difference between all is the size... The airboxes from 06+ dont fit perfect but i use 2 bolts instead of 3 in mine and just put a spacer inbetween the subframe and airbox on the one side to take up some space and i havent had a single problem in over a year

631kfx400
03-07-2009, 08:13 PM
i wish i was rich so i could have intense bikes like that

Dave400ex
03-08-2009, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by slosh13
Hey, hondarider11 the side cases and headcover were planned on getting powdercoated but funds started getting tight when we were getting close to the end of the build. No offense taken either.

Don't powdercoat the sidecases. The headcover, clutch cover, water pump and thermostat covers are ok, but I'd stay away from the 4 cases. I had mine done last year and always had to torque the bolts, etc.

These did turn out very well. The only thing keeping them from the dealer show would be the engines being used. Alot of companies require everything to be new.

bobbys9350
03-12-2009, 08:17 PM
How loud is that sparks exhaust?

k265r
03-12-2009, 10:19 PM
(loud pipes save lives)

joebabic
03-19-2009, 08:41 PM
nice bikes

chad502ex
03-20-2009, 07:10 AM
very nice job.

awesome presentation.

thanks for posting.

S.A.J
03-22-2009, 10:10 AM
i cant help but see a BIG stash of cash when i look at them bikes,lol. very nice!!! thems some of the better looking red bikes!

motofreak2772
03-22-2009, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by MX450
you gotta get an 08+ gas tank for it to fit nicely, they are a bit smaller than the previous years
does the 08 tank fit on an 05 bike? or would you need 08 plastics and everything.

These bikes are sick. How did you get black springs from pep? Too bad I can only see half the pics lol i guess those bikes are just too much for my computer to handle.

Fast350ex
03-25-2009, 05:01 AM
Very nice!!
I'm still stuck with my hybrids though!

Seriously, what do you do for a living?
Looks like you have a few little ones runnin' around too!

laeger2fiddyr
03-25-2009, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by Fast350ex
Very nice!!
I'm still stuck with my hybrids though!

Seriously, what do you do for a living?
Looks like you have a few little ones runnin' around too!


thats what im wondering????

slosh13
03-25-2009, 07:13 AM
I'm a manager in a large manufacturing warehouse, but I also get a lot of help from my mom and dad. They support my racing 100% and I probably couldn't do it without them. Ah yes, I have just 1 little one. She will be turning 3 in April and she is definately a daddy's girl. Anything with a motor she LOVES, especially daddy's bikes. Pretty good chance she will be the 2020 ATVA women's champion!!!

03-25-2009, 08:41 AM
those are nice bikes but you didnt really show me how to build a pro level bike you just showed me how to spend 40,000$ in 7 minutes. haha just playin those are sweet keeps rockin the 05's i have 2 matching 2008 hondas so i know all the work you went through.

spanky101
03-25-2009, 10:59 AM
Hey slosh, where about in ohio are you from? Also who did your chrome work? Thanks

poogi
03-26-2009, 04:24 PM
sweet !!!!good luck this year !

motofreak2772
03-31-2009, 07:50 PM
Does the 06 air box fit on the same or what did you have to do?

mad715
04-17-2009, 07:55 PM
Nice Quads!

johndeere1
04-18-2009, 07:32 AM
any interest in selling one? :D

slosh13
04-19-2009, 04:54 PM
$10,500 for the race bike and $9,500 for the practice bike. Only have 2 rides per bike, less than 2 hours on each motor. Everything was brand new on the quad upon building them. Pm me or email me at slosh_racer13@yahoo.com

motofreak2772
04-19-2009, 05:07 PM
why are you selling them?

slosh13
04-19-2009, 05:27 PM
I can't afford to get hurt and miss work. Some priorities need to come before racing now with my little one.

bobbys9350
04-19-2009, 07:30 PM
Soo you getting out of racing all together?

ct350trx
04-20-2009, 06:36 AM
If you part it out, I'm interested in the baldwin front hubs

slosh13
04-20-2009, 07:10 AM
I'd like to try to try and sell them outright first then if nothing goes, then I will part them out

motofreak2772
04-20-2009, 01:37 PM
Dude seriously if you would have posted this two weeks ago that race bike would be in my garage right now! damn that sucks we just spent all of our tax return money on modding my bike. You have pretty much every part i have or will order... so this would have been way cheaper. the only difference would be the color scheme and the name on the bike... Im kind of sad now :p

spanky101
04-22-2009, 02:17 PM
Out of curiousity, what are you trying to get out of them slosh? You can pm me the number if you feel more comfortable doing that

MX450
04-22-2009, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by slosh13
$10,500 for the race bike and $9,500 for the practice bike. Only have 2 rides per bike, less than 2 hours on each motor. Everything was brand new on the quad upon building them. Pm me or email me at slosh_racer13@yahoo.com

there ya go spanky

rideredms#44
04-23-2009, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by slosh13
Now lets start getting the rear end together. First, I take some emery cloth the clean out the inside of the swingarm. This step insures that the swingarm will be clean for carrier. Next step is I make sure that the carrier is filled with a grease upon installation. Then I put a light coating of grease on the inside of the swingarm and slide the axle/carrier into the swingarm, then the axle follows. Install the disc on the antifade nut and loctite the disc mounting bolts.

Slide the antifade nut onto the axle, put the OEM circlip on and hand tighten the locknut. I am using the stock Honda hubs. The axle is a +1 - +4 and with Douglas wheels run the large spacers on the inside and the small spacers on the outside. If you buy an RPM axle, get the extra-thick sprocket hub- it's only a few dollars more.

When buying an antifade nut, make sure it has a steel sleeve where the seal rides. This keeps the fade nut from wearing out as quick. I also installed the rear hubs, sprocket, caliper, brake stay, subframe, grab-bar, and rear brakeline.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/28.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/30.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/DSC_1009.jpg


Fasst Company’s Brake clevis was installed eliminating any play in the brake pedal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/36.jpg


Now we have a rolling chassis, the nerfbars were installed next. Rath’s fit and finish is second to none and they bolted up with no issues.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/38.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/32.jpg

Next, I want to get the motor and electrical all buttoned up. I install the carb to the motor and then install the airbox. I take the rear shock canister and mount it using to hose clamps. Traditionally, the canister mounts the rear grabber with a provided mount from PEP. I didn’t like the look of my can hanging that far out incase of a crash, that is the first thing to get ripped off. So I had my shock line shortened and added a larger can and mounted it right up next to the airbox. Now, it is tucked up out of the way. If you would like to have this done, SF Racing is the place to call.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/31.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/40.jpg


Now I install my air filter in the airbox. This is my choice for a filter system. I have run K&N filters in the past, but I like the extra protection of a dual-layer foam filter. The 450 motors make such good power that it's not like your trying to squeeze every bit of power out of the quad anyway.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/dscf0093.jpg

Motor rebuild on the four-strokes are costly; I think it's worth giving up some hp for better filtration. The Pro Design filter kit is real easy to install and with the 06 airbox instead of the 05’, the air filer is huge and pulls twice as much air. Here is an example of the 05’ ring compared to the 06’.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/slosh13/2009%20rebuilds/filerwhoa.jpg

I oil both inner and outer foam elements with Shell rotella 15w40 diesel oil (any traditional motor oil will work) and work the oil into the foam real good. we were told here at work by the regional honda rep that motor oil does not work as filter oil bc it actually runs down to the bottom of the filter as gravity takes its course so your not getting the protection that you need from motor oil.

slosh13
04-23-2009, 05:31 PM
Dee from RAGE ATV begs to differ. I was told to do this as some of the filter oil sprays when coming in contact with oxygenated fuels to gum up. I only do what was recommended to me. Call Dee and pick his brain. VERY smart guy.

mad715
04-23-2009, 07:56 PM
Thats no joke, damn economy, only if I still working and not laid off!!! I need some of that Obama money, like 10,500.

motofreak2772
04-23-2009, 07:59 PM
man.. I hate seeing this post get bumped to the top. like I said this thing should be sitting in my garage :mad:

d3ktrix
04-23-2009, 08:36 PM
If I had more work right now I would so buy all that Walsh suspension.
Chrome Walsh, I need that :P

rideredms#44
04-24-2009, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by slosh13
Dee from RAGE ATV begs to differ. I was told to do this as some of the filter oil sprays when coming in contact with oxygenated fuels to gum up. I only do what was recommended to me. Call Dee and pick his brain. VERY smart guy. never said he wasnt a smart dude. ive just seen the bike that come into the honda kawi dealer that i work at and have seen the filter completley dry on top and the oil at the bottom. its kinda hard to beat the billon dollar companys with engineers that sit around all devolping products that work. i run oxygenated fuels and have never had that problem. not trying to argue here just didnt know if you were aware thats all.

mxpimp2000
08-08-2009, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by slosh13
I'm a manager in a large manufacturing warehouse, but I also get a lot of help from my mom and dad. They support my racing 100% and I probably couldn't do it without them. Ah yes, I have just 1 little one. She will be turning 3 in April and she is definately a daddy's girl. Anything with a motor she LOVES, especially daddy's bikes. Pretty good chance she will be the 2020 ATVA women's champion!!!

theres a jake schlosser in OH thats an attorney at law..is that you lol

Bridgewater
08-08-2009, 11:44 PM
WOW..major props to you and the others who helped put these two SICK bikes together..def mind blowing without a doubt hope racings going good for you.

HondaRaceReady
08-10-2009, 07:58 PM
What's different about the race bike that makes it worth more? I read almost everything you did to them and they look like they both have the same parts.

slosh13
08-10-2009, 08:48 PM
Motor on the race bike has a lot more go fast parts:D

08-10-2009, 08:51 PM
i thought you were getting outta the sport?

slosh13
08-11-2009, 07:14 AM
I am going to continue to race, but I am going to be focusing a little more time starting up my business. Everythng has a pricetag if the offer is good!

I am selling a few parts off each bike:

2 full sparks big core exhausts $300 shipped per system

2 Flexx handlebars quad bend $185 shipped per handlebar

fandl450r
08-11-2009, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by slosh13
I am going to continue to race, but I am going to be focusing a little more time starting up my business. Everythng has a pricetag if the offer is good!

I am selling a few parts off each bike:

2 full sparks big core exhausts $300 shipped per system

2 Flexx handlebars quad bend $185 shipped per handlebar

Could you get me some pictures of the flexx bars?

Thanks.

Shawthy33
09-04-2009, 10:21 AM
Are you entire bikes still for sale?

If so I might be interested in dialing in a deal for later in the fall

Latemodel32
09-04-2009, 11:28 AM
I seen one of these Quads at the RedBud Quad nat in Aug. They look sweet. What happend there you didnt finish to good?

slosh13
09-05-2009, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Shawthy33
Are you entire bikes still for sale?

If so I might be interested in dialing in a deal for later in the fall

The practice bike would be up for sale right now