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nacs400ex
12-22-2002, 08:48 PM
hey my neighbour claims hes gunna rape me with his grizzly. What do you guys think, by the way his grizzly is stock, and my 400 is too, or i can take out the other 400 with bolt on mods. He keeps makin fun of the 400ex, saying how hes gunna put it in his toolbox. hahahah Lets see him try and jump.
So your opinions would be appreiciated(SP).

Thanks
Craig

12-22-2002, 08:51 PM
well, he will beat you, it will b close off the line, but he will rape you , so i would agree on wutever he sais ok

AtvMxRider
12-22-2002, 08:51 PM
If your talking about a drag race then he may get you on top end but I doubt it.

In the woods there is no way in **** he is going to catch you.

In the mud forget it he's got you.

nacs400ex
12-22-2002, 08:54 PM
hahah ok, in the trails i have to wait for him every corner. Its quite funny, and when hes in front of me, i wish i had a horn sometimes. O well, straight line dont matter really anyways, unless your into draggin.

roostin_dale
12-22-2002, 08:56 PM
if he beats you just take him on the MX track!:D

But..yes..he should win in a drag race!

Sparks425Ex
12-22-2002, 09:04 PM
If he is got a pet Bear that he intends to rape you with I would call the police and get a restraining order. Or go take some self defense classes.

Sportrax10
12-22-2002, 09:10 PM
You will beat him! According to a mag a Grizzly is not as fast as a Prairie 650 and you should be able to beat a Prairie 650. So I say you will win.

nacs400ex
12-22-2002, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by NACS425Ex
If he is got a pet Bear that he intends to rape you with I would call the police and get a restraining order. Or go take some self defense classes.

hahahahahhaha.

RIDER11X
12-22-2002, 09:12 PM
A FRIEND OF MINE GOT A 660 GRIZZLY. WE HAVENT LINED UP BUT 400EX'S WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE LEAD UP TO ABOUT 55 MPH THEN THE TABLES WOULD CHANGE. JUST MY GUESS. GRIZZLY'S ARE SAID TO TOP OUT AT 70MPH STOCK!

TravEX
12-23-2002, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by Honda300Rider
hey my neighbour claims hes gunna rape me with his grizzly. What do you guys think, by the way his grizzly is stock, and my 400 is too, or i can take out the other 400 with bolt on mods. He keeps makin fun of the 400ex, saying how hes gunna put it in his toolbox. hahahah Lets see him try and jump.
So your opinions would be appreiciated(SP).

Thanks
Craig

drag race him and find out,,,

nacs400ex
12-23-2002, 09:33 AM
thanks tips:blah lol, yeah i am gunna drag him. I just wanted to know before hand. But I dont care the guy is like 45, and he hates mx quads. Well, I will just take him on the mx track lol.

MSL
12-23-2002, 09:39 AM
been there done that 400ex wins

raptor_02
12-23-2002, 10:43 AM
my dad owns 2 660 grizzley's and both have an HMF pipe, knfilter, and carb rejetted. I draged him with just a pipe on mine and smoked him. He took off about 3 quads ahead of me and I kicked it and by the time i was clicking in 5th gear I passed him and was pulling away. This was on blacktop too. Then a couple of weeks later we would drag on dirt on about a 75 yard drag and I would get him by about 4 quad lenghts ever time. So its really not even close.

12-23-2002, 10:49 AM
gizz's beat 400exs no doubt, the prarie 650 is even faster

Sportrax10
12-23-2002, 11:22 AM
With a good driver a Grizzle and a Prairie could beat a 400ex with an inexperienced driver. I beat my dad in a drag race on dirt by at least 4 quad lengths. Both tottally stock and before i had my Holeshots.

raptakilla15
12-23-2002, 12:11 PM
now it all depends on if you suck at shifting or not
since the griz is an auto he dont have to worry about that
and anyways, youre 400 will win unless it has some serious engine damage, id hate to see you lose, go lose as much weight as possible so you ensure youre and our victory

raptor_02
12-23-2002, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Sportraxboy10
With a good driver a Grizzle and a Prairie could beat a 400ex with an inexperienced driver. I beat my dad in a drag race on dirt by at least 4 quad lengths. Both tottally stock and before i had my Holeshots. well if you don't know how to shift gears i'd say a 400 would lose, equal riders a 400 will smoke a grizz. You don't have to have an experienced rider on the grizz, just someone who will hold it wide open.

raptor_02
12-23-2002, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by EXracer8601
gizz's beat 400exs no doubt, the prarie 650 is even faster grizz or praire don't have a chance against a 400. Put a rider who's knows how to keep the honda's front end down and shift gears good and it will take either with ease. I've done this with more than one grizzley too!!

Sportrax10
12-23-2002, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by raptor_02
well if you don't know how to shift gears i'd say a 400 would lose, equal riders a 400 will smoke a grizz. You don't have to have an experienced rider on the grizz, just someone who will hold it wide open.

Also, what if the Prairie/Grizzle is in 4wd? They would get more traction. Maybe just of the start and then switch (allthough the Prairies manual says not too)

nacs400ex
12-23-2002, 05:19 PM
hahah whats the difference if you turn it off while ur going? It doesnt take the weight away??

Sportrax10
12-23-2002, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Honda300Rider
hahah whats the difference if you turn it off while ur going? It doesnt take the weight away??

LOL Yea I guess it wouldnt matter.

quadman
12-23-2002, 08:04 PM
keep the hondas front end down? why? i never do and i never loop out, its fun wheelying in 3rd gear and still pulling the quad your racing, it reminds me of fast and the furious

Maryland 400EX
12-23-2002, 09:17 PM
I ran this race many times with a neighborhood Grizzly, both of us stock and it was NO CONTEST! The 400 EX just runs away from the 660. Whoever says different is nuts.

2fastandfurious
12-23-2002, 09:31 PM
Ya i love when i punch it on my honda and the a arms rise up. Its like an erection.
-Ben

12-23-2002, 09:37 PM
lmfao, this post makesme laugh, i will bet my ex that no matter what a grizzly will beat a ex in a drag race, lmfao, this post makes me laugh

Sportrax10
12-23-2002, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by lrdrider1
lmfao, this post makesme laugh, i will bet my ex that no matter what a grizzly will beat a ex in a drag race, lmfao, this post makes me laugh
??????
What makes you think that?
Just about every Grizzle vs. 400ex race a 400ex comes out on top. Same with Prairie650 vs. 400ex races, and a Prairie is faster then a Grizzle.

12-23-2002, 10:59 PM
actualy with every grizzly vs. 400ex, the grizzly comes out on top, think bout it, 660cc with tall gearing and big tires, c'mon now, what more do you need

nacs400ex
12-25-2002, 05:49 PM
Lrdrider1 Grizzlies weigh more than a 400ex though !! Prolly like 600 pounds ?!?

Craig

Bean
12-25-2002, 05:58 PM
i would bet though that if you put them on a long enough road, the Bombadier Quest would pass them all, 400, Prarie, and so on, as it is geared higher, and taller tires, than all of them, but anyway, given a long enough strech, the Grizz would probably win

Atreyu
12-25-2002, 06:18 PM
i would think the 400. Because the raptor vs. 400 the 400 will stay with it until they hit top of third or so,. The Grizz and the raptor are the same size engine but the grizz ways waaaay more. So my bet goes on the 400

12-25-2002, 09:41 PM
have u ever drag raced a girzzly with an ex, i ahve, the guhy raped me, and dont say its becuase i cant ride, cuz i can ride, my dad rincon barely keeps up wiht me, and well, the grizzly is faster than the rincon, i could b wrong tho, even tho my dad owned both a grizzly but sold it for the rincon:rolleyes:

raptor_02
12-25-2002, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by lrdrider1
actualy with every grizzly vs. 400ex, the grizzly comes out on top, think bout it, 660cc with tall gearing and big tires, c'mon now, what more do you need LOL, dude you are a funny guy!!! No way a GRIZZLY will take a 400ex. I have draged about 3 different grizzleys on blacktop and dirt and it was no contest!!!!!!!!! My 400 would just walk away!!!

12-25-2002, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by raptor_02
LOL, dude you are a funny guy!!! No way a GRIZZLY will take a 400ex. I have draged about 3 different grizzleys on blacktop and dirt and it was no contest!!!!!!!!! My 400 would just walk away!!!

lmfao, i know im funny, but im bein serious, my dad owned a grizzly last year, and when my ex was all stock, we drag raced many times, the grizzly won, he switched rides, the grizzly won, then this year, my dad sold the grizzly, bought a rincon, and now, my ex keeps up with a rincon, with all the motor mods and a lil bit taller gearing, it keeps up wiht the rincon, and the grizzly is faster than the rincon, so dude trust me, i kno my ****

Glow Plug
12-26-2002, 08:40 AM
I'm going with the 400 here because the 400 must weigh 150 pounds or more less ( don't know the weights off the top of my head??) and the grizz donesn't have a raptor motor it's a raptor motor tuned down for more tourqre (sp???) and yes the tires are biggger so i guess it will depend on the rider weight and their skill.

nacs400ex
12-26-2002, 09:04 AM
hey lrdrider1, did you get out of 2 gear?? lol i raced my neighbour today i killed him. This was on a gravel road. This grizzly has mudbugs and thats it. hahah my neighbour aint talkin **** no more.

12-26-2002, 09:41 AM
lmfao

flyin#5
12-26-2002, 12:10 PM
a guy i know has a 400 and a griz. he says on the top they are about the same.

MichaelS693
12-26-2002, 12:42 PM
75% rider 25% bike.....depends on if ya know how to drag or not and if you do you should win...IMO:D

MOFO
12-26-2002, 12:52 PM
I dont know about the rest of you guys, but I have personally lined up with a 660 Grizzly (two of my friends have them). Up in Marienville, PA they have some long arse logging roads (gravel). I lined up with my quad as is (basically pipe and jets) and I beat him. Here is how it went after two line ups.

He got me out the hole until I got to the end of 3rd gear...then we were close...by the end of 4th I was starting to pass him then once I was in 5th he was behind me. This was the case BOTH times. Just recently my friend with a similiar 400ex (ie no bore kit) raced the same 660 grizzly again on the road. They did a rolling start... my buddy pulled away right off the bat and kept the lead until they stopped...about 1/4 mile...give or take.

I dont care what anyone says, but this has been the case with all of my friends with 400EX's and my two other friends with 660 grizzly. Just stating my "real world" info...

12-26-2002, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by VWVR6
grizzly. Just stating my "real world" info...

lmfao, your real world aint so real

Sportrax10
12-26-2002, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by lrdrider1


lmfao, your real world aint so real

Go race that Grizzly again, maybe your 400ex wasnt running right that day.

12-26-2002, 02:20 PM
umm hey kid, me ex always runs right, if it dont run right, i dont ride it, i make sure its jetted perfectly, burnin properly, and have enough oil, seriously think about it like in my previous post, the grizzly is faster then the rincon, my ex keeps up with the rincon, so c'mon now, i kno my ****, nuff said, the grizzly will win

MSL
12-26-2002, 02:40 PM
my dad owned a grizzly last year, and when my ex was all stock, we drag raced many times, the grizzly won, he switched rides, the grizzly won,

Your Dad must have had an unusually fast grizzly or you have a slow 400ex.. I have a few friends that own them and they will not beat a 400ex in a drag race unless your racing in a mud pit.
no flame intended. A grizzly is work horse not intended to be used as a race quad.

Atreyu
12-26-2002, 02:45 PM
het lrdrider you sound like a spoiled little *****...you ask a question people give there answers and you become a *** just becaus eyou got beat...maybe its you not your quad. 75% rider 25% bike...get it?

**See Rule #1 and #5**

12-26-2002, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by BoySetsFire
het lrdrider you sound like a spoiled little *****...you ask a question people give there answers and you become a *** just becaus eyou got beat...maybe its you not your quad. 75% rider 25% bike...get it?

umm, how am i becoming a ***, im not realy spoiled, i pay for everything on my ex, besides my shocks wich were a christmas present, i know for a fact that the grizzly is faster than the 400ex,im not tryin to start anything, i just know for a fact, and im tryin to state the facts

TravEX
12-26-2002, 05:22 PM
:rolleyes: :huh

Bean
12-26-2002, 05:25 PM
you all need pimpslapped and new @ssholes dug into next to your current ones, my daddy is bigger than yours, shutup and who gives a flying flamming f*ggot f*ck, god

12-26-2002, 05:27 PM
my daddy can bench 415, how about yours;)

nacs400ex
12-26-2002, 08:26 PM
Hey Cream Puff boy, i am just saying i raced my neighbours grizzly down the road, and i beat him. I seriously think there is something wrong with your riding style or 400ex. Like someone else said the only way a grizzly will win, is in a mud pit. Also, yes i know the grizzly wasnt made for draggin or racing, but my neighbour was talking sh*t so i had enough, and i tried it. If you dont believe this dont, cause i answered my own question. Thank you goes to the people with the good information. Anybody can easily say anything on the internet, and they can say my friends brothers sisters boyfriend has the quad that will beat this quad.

Craig

RED121572
12-26-2002, 08:50 PM
That EX will take him. Make sure, absolutely sure you keep the throttle pinned until the end of the race. If you hesitate, he will rape you.

Chef
12-26-2002, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by lrdrider1
have u ever drag raced a girzzly with an ex, i ahve, the guhy raped me, and dont say its becuase i cant ride, cuz i can ride

He must have thought you could ride too....You should be sure and call the police, too.

Sportrax10
12-26-2002, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by lrdrider1
umm hey kid, me ex always runs right, if it dont run right, i dont ride it, i make sure its jetted perfectly, burnin properly, and have enough oil, seriously think about it like in my previous post, the grizzly is faster then the rincon, my ex keeps up with the rincon, so c'mon now, i kno my ****, nuff said, the grizzly will win
Well a Prairie can smoke them all, but a 400ex can beat a Prairie. So where does that make a 400ex.

Im not gonna count but there was so many storys of 400exs beating Grizzlys and only 1 about a Grizzly beating a 400ex.
I think ill go with the 400ex.;)

Glow Plug
12-27-2002, 07:21 PM
THe 400ex win's if the rider is not a ***** that can't ride


nuff said


end of story

raptor_02
12-27-2002, 07:31 PM
finally some smart people on here!!!!! No way a Grizz can beat a EX!!!! For those of u that think they can, come find me and bring some cash!!!!:D

nacs400ex
12-27-2002, 07:42 PM
hahah yep, its no competition against the grizzly, but than again it wasnt made to have competition against a 400ex lol.

Craig

on z throttle
12-27-2002, 08:13 PM
:grr MAN, I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT A GRIZZLEY FOR RACING INSTEAD OF THIS LEADSLED 400EX
ARE YOU GUY FOR REAL OR WHAT? A GRIZZLEY BEATING A 400EX:D

CHAR250R
12-28-2002, 09:15 AM
I have a relative who recently sold his 400ex and bought a Grizzly. He says the 400ex felt faster out of the hole, but isn't sure which one will win a drag race. He says the auto tranny on the Grizzly lags on the start, where the 400ex is hooking up. We're gonna line them up soon, and see what happens. Then we'll switch machines, and try it a few more times. We've both been riding for 20+ years, so you can rule out the inexpierianced (sp?) rider factor. If the 400ex had a 6th gear, it wouldn't be close. After that, I'm gonna line up the 350X against the Grizzly and see what happens. I already know that 350x is faster than the 400ex in a drag race. Pavement or dirt, it didn't matter. The 6th gear in the trike made the difference. Not a big difference, only a couple of bike lengths. More news to follow......

MOFO
12-31-2002, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by lrdrider1


lmfao, your real world aint so real


... big words for such a little man behind the computer.

GreatAim
12-31-2002, 07:28 AM
i raced a grizzly with a good rider and we were about tied, he locked the front brakes and got the tires spinning and throwing stuff and then let off and rode a decent wheelie and held it wide open, that was a nice holeshot.

12-31-2002, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by VWVR6



... big words for such a little man behind the computer.

yea, im 15, but that doesnt mean i dont know anything, i wasnt trying to start anything, but i do know that ive been beaten by a stock grizzly, we swtiched bikes, and then i beat him on the grizzy, the grizzly is faster

MSL
12-31-2002, 10:48 AM
yea, im 15, but that doesnt mean i dont know anything, i wasnt trying to start anything, but i do know that ive been beaten by a stock grizzly, we swtiched bikes, and then i beat him on the grizzy, the grizzly is faster

You seem to be the only one getting beat by the grizzly, now what does that tell you. I would be looking long and hard at your 400ex something is not right..

TravEX
12-31-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by MSL


You seem to be the only one getting beat by the grizzly, now what does that tell you. I would be looking long and hard at your 400ex something is not right..

i agree

12-31-2002, 12:46 PM
we.. maybe im wrong, but im just going by test runs that me and my dad did, theres nutin wrong with my ex, it beats most modified ones around here, maybe my dad got a grizzly that was faster, i dunno

Ryan
12-31-2002, 12:46 PM
Let me clear this up a little.

Stock 400ex and a stock grizzly, with the same riders taking it out for a quick drag the grizzly will take it off the line but later on the 400ex will catch up. A pairie will smoke them all.

Just because the 660 Grizzly is faster then the 400ex doesn't make it better.

PS. Dyno charts don't lie.

RideRed04
12-31-2002, 02:37 PM
Actually dynos can lie. A basic formula is 50lbs = about 3 hp. The griz weighs 200 lbs more then the 400ex. Does the griz have 12 more hp then the 400? Lrd, just curious, how did you break in your 400 (if you got it new)? I broke mine in really easy, and one of my friends that used to have one (got a dale) just rode his hard from the start. Mine would embaress his, it wasnt even funny how anemic his felt, it just didnt have the grunt in the midrange that mine did.

12-31-2002, 02:42 PM
i broke mine in by lettin it idle for 10 minutes, then waiten till it cooled down so i could touch it(repeated 4 times) then ran it slowly and short shifted it thru 1st-4th gear, didnt bother goin into 5th(repeated 3 times)then after that, i rode it for a day of normal riden, never let the engine rev to high,i did this procedure when i first got my ex, and after i got my engine back from the mods, i think thats a pretty good way of breaking it in, dont u

Wahb
02-28-2005, 01:10 PM
I know of a few 400EXs that got beat by a Grizzly.:devil:

Sorry about the pic quality, I didn't take it.;)
http://members.aol.com/k8ejohn/grizvs400exs.jpg

PunkA$$
02-28-2005, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Wahb
I know of a few 400EXs that got beat by a Grizzly.:devil:

Sorry about the pic quality, I didn't take it.;)
http://members.aol.com/k8ejohn/grizvs400exs.jpg


Hey, is that you riding a half a wheelie on the left??

Just teasing.

Where's the vid?

Wahb
02-28-2005, 01:53 PM
LOL!!! How'd I know you'd have something to say??:p How old are you? Married? Kid(s)? I'm all of the above, I don't get to ride every weekend. It'll probably be a few weeks, but when I get it you'll be the first to know!!!:blah:

PunkA$$
02-28-2005, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Wahb
LOL!!! How'd I know you'd have something to say??:p How old are you? Married? Kid(s)? I'm all of the above, I don't get to ride every weekend. It'll probably be a few weeks, but when I get it you'll be the first to know!!!:blah:

24, single, no kids. This time of year there's not much (2wd) quad riding going on. Too much snow. Spring/summer/fall, I go pretty much every Sunday.

With this much build up, your wheelie vid had had better be something spectacular. Don't go all crazy and hurt yourself. Also, if it's not too much to ask, throw in a reverse wheelie for good measure.

Wahb
02-28-2005, 02:34 PM
Reverse wheelie is dang near impossible on a 600 lb. ute. Steve Abbot does one, but uses ratchet straps to tie the handlebars down.:eek2:

coryatver
02-28-2005, 03:14 PM
I have raced a grizzly the grizzly get the jump off the line with the auto tranny and better traction but after that its all 400ex. I have rode with many grizzlys and the 400ex dominates everywhere but in the deep mud and utillity work. which is what they are made for.

mudbuster660
03-24-2006, 03:55 AM
a friend and i have both invested in a grizz 660 , we just broke them in diff he is easy on his but will at the same time take it to the limit , where i always keep mine wide open even in trails u can learn to whip them like any other ,but on hard top giving both of them all they have i can spank him easy . so it has alot to do how it is broke in , the same with all the others

JForestZ34
03-24-2006, 07:02 AM
Let's see some vid's of these grizzlys racing a 400. That would most likely help the situation. I would like to see some 400's spanking the Grizz.:D


James

Trevor
03-24-2006, 07:08 AM
I lost to a 660 griz with my 300ex. So if a griz can beat a 400ex I don't feel so bad having a tank beat me now.

Quad18star
03-24-2006, 07:17 AM
Craig you still have your 265r?? Post some pics if you do , the last time I saw it , it was sitting in Adam's basement . :cool:

03-24-2006, 01:19 PM
Our 400exs beat the kawaskis 650. There stock as well.

mudbuster660
08-05-2006, 10:11 PM
well i can tell u one thing even new grizzly's raise a question ,a friend of mine has a 06 grizz and so do i im taller he is shorter but we weigh the same and my grizz will beat him in a 1/4 mile by close to two lengths that is wide open on the hard top . he has even put his in the shop because it made him mad , i just told him blue was quicker than green , but i did take out a kx 125

RIDER11X
08-06-2006, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by Wahb
Reverse wheelie is dang near impossible on a 600 lb. ute. Steve Abbot does one, but uses ratchet straps to tie the handlebars down.:eek2:

Wrong! I buddy of mine accidently did one unloading his new Grizz off of his truck on a bank by accident day one. Saw it myself!

BTW, the transition was nearly level, just a snow dusted bed and grass slicked things up a bit....But not that much. He was a little shook.:p

MOFO
08-06-2006, 06:46 AM
Holy old thread! :eek2:


BTW, a 400EX still beats a stock Grizzly! :devil:

firefighterjosh
08-07-2006, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by MOFO
Holy old thread! :eek2:


BTW, a 400EX still beats a stock Grizzly! :devil:

2002:eek2: This is an old thread



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