86 frame lower mounting problem

[trx250rforlife]

i am having problems putting my motor back in the frame you no how there the mount on the pivot bolt an the 2 up front.. u no the mont under neath the motor i can figure out how to get it to linne up with i have the front an rear mounts up the bottom 1 doesnt want to mount up smooth is there a trick to this i need help with this big time thanx

[CorvetteZ06]

those bottom two motor mounts, (the two under the motor) are very thin and weak, and can twist or get tweaked easily making it difficult to get the bolt through. also, those mounts could have been cracked in the past, and somebody welded them back on crooked possibly. post up a pic.

[trx250rforlife]

it looks like it was reweleded dont have camera on me right now when i took my motor out that bolt was there how would u put it in

[CorvetteZ06]

well, if the bolt was already in there at one time, i would remove the bolts on the rear motor mount (pivot bolt), and remove the bolt through the two front motor mounts. have someone hold the motor, and you can try and put the bolt through the bottom motor mount. by having all the other motor mounts removed, it will allow the guy holding the motor room to adjust the motor to get the bottom bolt through.

[trx250rforlife]

we tried that but then the rear motor mount on the pivot blot top half wasint lined up to the case an the bolt coulding go threw any other sugesstions

[05LSR250R]

You really need to post pics!! I would start at the rear and work forward. I have a hard time picturing whats going on.

[trx250rforlife]

kk when we have both motor mount bolt that are on the pivot bold on. the 2 mounts under the enigine arent lined up the motor is like 1/8 of an inch to far back from the hole on the case i have tried everything but it not working an my camera is ****ed at the moment srry bout the languauage. so any ideas from that description

[05LSR250R]

I take it this is an 86 were talking about? Maybe that bracket is tweaked a little? The one that mounts at the sw.arm then mounts in 2 spots at the rear of the motor.

[trx250rforlife]

ya its a 86 but i baught the bike an the motor was in it fine took it out and it was fine but now it wont go in wht would u do

[05LSR250R]

Might be able to take a die grinder to the mounting tabs that dont line up. Take a little off and check fit, repeat till you can get a bolt in. Eliminate all possibilities before the die grinder!!!

[05LSR250R]

Maybe just bar it forward a little with a pinch bar or phillips screw driver thru the bolt holes? BE CAREFUL IF YOUR BARRING AGAINST THE MOTOR!!

[trx250rforlife]

ya i no i was thinking bout that would it make the mount weaker if i did that i just dont get it tho the motor sat in the frame pefert an even when i took it out it was easy but its just the under the engine mount thats not lined up

[trx250rforlife]

we tried that like alot i might taking it in to a shop might i unno hope fully i can get some pics up wht steps do u take when putting the motor back in

[05LSR250R]

A lot of times the motor will slide on out then after a period of time the chassis will "relax". Might have happened if that lower mount was ever broken and repaired. How long has it been apart? Did you powdercoat that chassis?

[trx250rforlife]

it has been apart for bout 2 mounths now i unno i would think that it would just still bolt up

[05LSR250R]

Try to carefully bar it in or use a drift thru one of the bolt holes. you should get it. Open up the mounting tap with a die grinder IF you have to. Just remember, little at a time, checking for fit.

[trx250rforlife]

so basaclly try to forse the motor into the mound but also kk i can put the bolt threw the bottom moun but then it doest mount up to the bracket on the pivot bolt should i play around with that bracket

[05LSR250R]

Check EVERYTHING over! I am not to familiar with that 86 mount really. Dont know how "stout" it is. Do the very front mounts line up alright? Narrow it down as to wich one is off! I'm bettin' on that lowest mount being the farthest off.

[trx250rforlife]

the front 1s mount up fine the back ones mount up fine its just the one that is under the case that dosent mount kk but when i put the bolt threw the bottom one the front 1s still mount up fine but then the mount on the swinger dont mount then it wierd

[05LSR250R]

Either bar it in or use the die grinder. That lower mount was probably re-welded a little off. Their known to brake. You might get away with smaller diameter bolts thru the back bracket where it goes thru the motor? I know you dont want to cut & weld on that thing.

[trx250rforlife]

i dont want to grind or weld nothing i appreaciate all the help but ya its really wierd i might take the frame to a guy who noes his 250r hope fully he can help i was so pumped to break in my motor then this **** poped up

[05LSR250R]

Bar it in. It came out o.k. Know its hard headed going back in. Obviously the guy before you got it in there and everything was good. I f you say nothin changed then it'll go back in. I can appreciate you not wanting to grind anything. Its always a last resort.

[trx250rforlife]

kk this is what im am going to do im going to put my frame in my basement so it could warm a lil bit then put my motor cause i think it got really cold were i live lol canada an the metal contracted hope fully shis works cause it like i if i move no even a 1/8 of an inch its all bolted up thanx for the help were bouts do u live

[05LSR250R]

I live in Braidwood, Illinois. Good luck with the chassis. You'll get'er done. Post up when you get it shoehorned in there.

[C-LEIGH RACING]

Did you pull the rear engine mount out from between the swingarm, if you did you may have put it back in upside down.
The little wire loop on the mount goes to the top so the carb drain hoses can go through. If that wire loop is on the bottom side, the mount is upside down & will cause the rear of the engine to sit high.

Just guessing, Neil

[Honda 250r 001]

ahhhhhhhh i bet thats it. theres a little arrow on the side that shouild say which way is up.

[trx250rforlife]

lol no i didnt take the back mount off an it says up on the mount so its all right there i unno i brining my frame in my basement to warm up hope that will help cause its very cold out side right now so i hope that works it really making me mad u guys have any suggestions what mount do u usally mount first thanx

[C-LEIGH RACING]

Somethings not right, because it makes no difference what year frame it is & any year model TRX engine, when you sit it in the frame the bolt holes will line up. Something is mighty bent or those front engine mounts are wrong.
If your having that much trouble getting the bolts to line up on the bottm end, lord help when you get to that head stay.
Neil

[05LSR250R]

I think that lower mounting tab has been rewelded.

[trx250rforlife]

it was rewelded the 2 bottom mounts we just put the frame in my basement to warm it up the one mount is 3mm off

[trx250rforlife]

kk lol now hears something crazy lol i got my to mounts in the back like the mount on the swing arm the mount under the motor an the head stay now the 2 front motor mounts dont nmount up lmfao this is so wierd any help with this

[05LSR250R]

Make sure their on the correct sides! There is a left and a right.

[trx250rforlife]

thanx to every one i got this motor all mounted up

[05LSR250R]

Thank god almighty! Good to here you got it in there!

[trx250rforlife]

ya now i need to waite for good weather for the break in