Andy Lagzdins' 2004 Honda TRX250R buildup

[Andy Lagzdins]

This is a photo of the Roll Duncan Dirtfirst TRX250R that I ran in the 2002 GNCC Series. I had started racing the Roll Lobo chassis in 2001, but didn't really start to get it dialed in until 2002.

[Andy Lagzdins]

Just before the 2002 Ironman GNCC.

[Andy Lagzdins]

In 2003, I had made some suspension changes and switched to the Lobo MX chassis instead of the XC.

[Andy Lagzdins]

The quad was great in 2003, and I was able the get into the top ten overall a few times at the GNCC's. I finished the year fifth place in the Pro Class, behind fellow 250R riders Bill Ballance, Matt Smiley, Chris Borich, and Santo DeRisi.

[Andy Lagzdins]

I held onto my last TRX250R from 2003, and in this thread I am going to assemble the 250R that I would have raced in 2004 had they not been banned from the Pro Class.

[Flynbryan19]

Very Cool Andy! Is this a just for fun build or do you plan to race this at any of your local series races?

[Andy Lagzdins]

I don't plan on racing it until they start having "Vintage" quad races in the future!

[05LSR250R]

Are they going to run or start a Vintage class? If they are your going to see a huge number of R's come out of the woodwork!!! Right now you only see R's in the Vet class as far as I've seen.

[250Renvy]

Awesome stuff. I think that last pick of all the parts is the BEST pre-build pick I have ever seen.

Good to see not everybody ditched their 250R's when the production quads came out.

[8686]

I'm speechless.

[05LSR250R]

Yeah!! That pic of it all layed out before us is sweet to say the least!! The Roll Design "R" is the best ever built(IMO). Its also cool to see someone "rockin" the mullet!! A Roll Design "R" and a sweet mullet. Thats a winning combination if I ever did see one!!!

[Andy Lagzdins]

Just for the record, I haven't cut any part of my hair for at least 10 years. I heard the mullet is making a comeback, though- might have to sport one!

[05LSR250R]

Yeah, I went about 7 yrs. without a haircut one time! Wasn't making fun at all! Used to love whippin people in the face with all that hair when the bands would hit the stage. Sportin' the flat top now, but have no regrets. Anyway, were gettin' off the topic. Whats the deal on this "VINTAGE" class??

[Pro1200]

im amazed..time for me to build another 250R

[CorvetteZ06]

just beautiful!! that chasis must handle like a dream!!!!!!!

[8686]

Andy, I sent you a pm.

[leager-n-ky]

VERY NICE........

[maryland450r]

Very nice!! I can't wait to see it together.

[danhung11]

This is going to be badazz! Glad to see another R being reborn. :cool:

[Andy Lagzdins]

The chassis is a 2002 Roll Lobo MX. The frame has been powdercoated Red Baron. I run a tap through all the threaded holes, and clean up any overcoated areas.

[pepshocks]

DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE LOBOS FOR SALE?

[Andy Lagzdins]

The steering stem is a late model Roll Design and the steering block is a Duncan part. I try to get as much of the hardware sorted out early so the build goes quicker once it's started.

[Andy Lagzdins]

If I remember correctly, the only difference between the MX and XC frames was the upper rear shock mount. The mount was higher on the MX, because most MX racers did away with the snorkel tube.

[Andy Lagzdins]

This swingarm is a no-link ARS-FX with a Custom Axis shock. I didn't get this swingarm in time to run it at any GNCC's, but I did do some testing with it at the end of 2003. Mike Hallock and Doug Roll were not on good terms then, and it was a little risky for me to try out Mike's parts while riding for Roll- but I had to do whatever necessary to get an edge.

[Rich250RRacer]

Hey Andy, I picked up a few NOS parts from you on Ebay. Nice stuff. I remember talking to your dad, I believe, at the '04 Kentucy GNCC, just when everybody switched to four-strokes. I asked him if you liked the new 450's or if you'd rather be back on your 250R. He said you prefered the two-stroke. Do you still feel the same?

[Andy Lagzdins]

The bearing carrier is an RPM tapered bearing unit. The pivot bolt is an LSR cr-mo. The swingarm uses an OEM 400EX chain slider.

[8686]

Keep it coming.

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by Rich250RRacer
Hey Andy, I picked up a few NOS parts from you on Ebay. Nice stuff. I remember talking to your dad, I believe, at the '04 Kentucy GNCC, just when everybody switched to four-strokes. I asked him if you liked the new 450's or if you'd rather be back on your 250R. He said you prefered the two-stroke. Do you still feel the same?

The 450R's have come a long way since 04, and the power and handling of my current 450R is great- but it's hard for me to say what is better out of the two because I haven't ridden a 250R in years. At the time (in 2004) I was just starting to work out the 450R, so at that time the Roll 250R was the better machine.

[250Renvy]

How does that powder color match up to OEM fighting red fenders? What color is it exactly - what brand of powder. I've been trying to find something that matches OEM fenders close to the OEM frame color.

[mcarlson1]

This is going to be a sik a** build!! That swing arm is outrageously righteous!!!!! That thing looks like it can take a beating. Did they build anymore of those or did you just get a prototype and tehy never came into production? Good luck on the build it looks really fun!!!!

Thanks,
Mike

[CorvetteZ06]

cant wait to hear how it will be versus your 450R when your done. when are you planning on it being finished?

[woodsracer144]

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD! DIBS IF HE EVER SELLS IT....

dude that is gonna be one bad *** bike when your done... i think you should bring that out to the OMA in Millville MN so you can run with another 250r... ME!

[skippy1999]

very cool Andy.

I have noticed that the demand for aftermarket 250r stuff is increasing again. I actually started building 2 retro MX racers. Just to droll over! Some deals can still be had, but most are on the rise!

David

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by pepshocks
DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE LOBOS FOR SALE?

Sorry, I sold off all my 250R parts (except for the stuff to build this one).

I sold a bunch of parts to Wes Stone and Steve @ Hardcore.

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by 250Renvy
How does that powder color match up to OEM fighting red fenders? What color is it exactly - what brand of powder. I've been trying to find something that matches OEM fenders close to the OEM frame color.

It looks a little darker than the 88-89 OEM frame red - not as orange(even though it looks orange in the photos). You can talk to Pappy @ BK Perf about the details on the powder, I don't know.

[05LSR250R]

Andy, I like the way your runnin' this thread with all the details,pics and step by step info. on the build process!! Be sure to keep it goin' as you progress. You seem to have a good knowledge of it. I can see this thread going over 100 pages! You should be extremely proud of that scooter! I cant stop looking at it!

[Pappy]

Red Baron like Andy said is a tad darker, and when the fenders fade slightly, like they all do, you can see a difference but its very slight. I use a different red that is a tad closer, buts its minute.


Congrats to Andy for sharing his build and for his recent win out west!!!:macho

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by mcarlson1
That swing arm is outrageously righteous!!!!! That thing looks like it can take a beating. Did they build anymore of those or did you just get a prototype and tehy never came into production?


I don't think too many were made- I got mine about Sept of 2003, right when the demand for YFZ450 parts was off the hook. I did see one on Ebay recently.

[woodsracer144]

so are you gonn race this at all this year? are you still racing the OMA in Millville?

[Master LTR450]

Andy any reason your not running the lobo swinger?are there any advatages to that one you have?? I just built my lobo from the ground up and can't wait to see yours done too. One of the best r frames for sure

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by woodsracer144
so are you gonn race this at all this year? are you still racing the OMA in Millville?

I'm racing the Score Baja races and the Best in the Desert series for the Duncan/Christy team on Elka/Roll equipped 450R's. I am going to do GNCC's and OMA's as time allows. I'm sorry I missed Millville in 08, I wanted to race on the MX track in good conditions- in 07 it was flooded bad.

awesome stuff! If you dont mind me asking why are you banned from the pro class?

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by Master LTR450
Andy any reason your not running the lobo swinger?are there any advatages to that one you have??

I had been running the Roll arm, but there hadn't been any geometry changes on it for years. Mike Hallock came out with this ARS-FX arm made to work with a new Custom Axis shock, and he said it would work better than what I had, so I tried it. Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to race with it, so I can't tell you for sure if it was better than the Roll setup.

[312R1]

Originally posted by FlewByU352
awesome stuff! If you dont mind me asking why are you banned from the pro class?


He's not, the 250R is.

Looks great Andy!!

-Steve

[05LSR250R]

Is it the 2 stroke engine that banned or the aftermarket frame!

[312R1]

Originally posted by 05LSR250R
Is it the 2 stroke engine that banned or the aftermarket frame!


It's both really...In the pro class you can only run a production based quad.

[05LSR250R]

Sorry, I'm gettin' of subject. But do they have a pro-open or run what ya' brung?Thanx.

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by Andy Lagzdins
I'm racing the Score Baja races and the Best in the Desert series for the Duncan/Christy team on Elka/Roll equipped 450R's. I am going to do GNCC's and OMA's as time allows. I'm sorry I missed Millville in 08, I wanted to race on the MX track in good conditions- in 07 it was flooded bad.

i missed the 08 year as well... i watched you in 07... you waxxed everyone if i remeber right... haha... good luck with the build and your racing this year... best of luck... hopfully you can make it out there...

[D Bergstrom]

Very nice 250R, look forward to following the build. Should look really good.


Originally posted by Andy Lagzdins
I'm racing the Score Baja races and the Best in the Desert series for the Duncan/Christy team on Elka/Roll equipped 450R's.

Congrat's on the win at Parker. I think your team will be the one to beat for the championship this year in BITD. We should be racing against you guys all year, hopefully see you at a race!

Doug

[brandonpeake]

why did u switch to a mx frame, what kind of motor is going inside the bike

[Andy Lagzdins]

[i]Congrat's on the win at Parker. I think your team will be the one to beat for the championship this year in BITD. We should be racing against you guys all year, hopefully see you at a race![/B]

Thanks- the Parker race was a good time. I'm really looking forward to heading back down to Mexico- especially since it's about 16 degrees here!

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by brandonpeake
why did u switch to a mx frame, what kind of motor is going inside the bike

The MX frame uses a longer rear shock than the XC frame. The quad is getting a 275cc Duncan PC2000 motor.

[Andy Lagzdins]

The axle is an RPM Dominator XC axle with the extra thick "race hub". I run the overall rear width of the quad at 48" for most tracks. The hubs are stock 250R that have been powdercoated. The sprocket is a Renthal 38t.

[Andy Lagzdins]

The anti-fade locknut is RPM. The rear disc is a unvented rotor that I used to have made by a local machine shop.

[Andy Lagzdins]

The a-arms are Roll Design Lobo II XC.

[Andy Lagzdins]

I am using TRX400EX front spindles. Here is a pic with the Roll spindle adapters in place.

[Andy Lagzdins]

The front shocks are Custom Axis from my 2003 quad. The tie rod ends are OEM 250R with Roll Design XC tie rods.

[Andy Lagzdins]

This is a good pic of the adjustable upper shock mount. This is where I would run them the majority of the time, I would raise the height a little for muddy or rutted tracks, and lower it for hardpack.

[Flynbryan19]

LOVE the adjustable shock mounts. Ahh the advantages of aftermarket frames..... These aftermarket frames HAD to handle better than the production models of today. Very trick!

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by Andy Lagzdins
I am using TRX400EX front spindles. Here is a pic with the Roll spindle adapters in place.

why are you running the 400ex and not the 250r;s? or aftermarket ones of some sort?

[racerx573]

Originally posted by woodsracer144
why are you running the 400ex and not the 250r;s? or aftermarket ones of some sort?


Lighter aluminum spindles compared to the cast steel of 250R's, and with 250R spindles becoming harder to get, the 400EX ones were more readily available and cheaper! I believe they improved geometry a little as well. Not to mention Doug Roll's stuff was some of the more advanced chassis geometry that was constantly being updated to handle better! When it comes to Roll stuff, ask no questions, because it will handle top notch without a doubt!!!

[danhung11]

Andy,

Can you explain the benefit of the unvented rear brake rotor?

Thanks,
Dan

[CorvetteZ06]

what front sprocket are you running with the 38 rear? did loren duncan do the porting on your PC2000? looks great so far

[mjmisek]

Originally posted by danhung11
Andy,

Can you explain the benefit of the unvented rear brake rotor?

Thanks,
Dan

I'm not Andy, but I do run solid rear rotors. .. One benefit I've noticed from an unvented rear rotor is that rear pads actually last. .. another is that they wipe dry a lot faster after a wet section so the brakes actually work.

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by danhung11


Can you explain the benefit of the unvented rear brake rotor?




The solid rear rotorswork better in mud races, don't bend as easy, and the pads last longer. Instead of changing the rear rotor if rain was in the forcast, I ran them all the time so I knew I had the best setup if it was a mudfest. I believe the solid rotors resist bending more than a vented rotor if I hit something hard enough that the skidplate mashes into the disc. It is rare that the rear pads wear down to the metal in a GNCC, but back when I raced this quad we were still going to that slophole in Palatka Florida. That sandswamp track would wear pads down to nothing in two hours!

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by CorvetteZ06
what front sprocket are you running with the 38 rear? did loren duncan do the porting on your PC2000?


I am running 13/38 gearing, which was good for all GNCC's except for Florida and maybe Indiana.

Loren Duncan has done all my porting on both 2 and 4 strokes.

[Andy Lagzdins]

This is the lower steering stem bearing holder. The bearing and seal press into the removable holder, which also has the steering stops built into it. The steering stem itself has adjustable stops.

[Andy Lagzdins]

These are TRX400EX hubs and calipers. The 400EX parts are easier to get and less expensive than the 250R parts, and work just as good. Even though the 400EX calipers are single piston (the 250R's are dual piston) they still have more than enough braking power. I used to run billet front hubs, and they look nice, but I just can't justify spending the loot on them when I can buy a couple sets of these for the same price.

[Andy Lagzdins]

The only failure I had with the 400EX spindles was at the 2003 Wisp GNCC, where I broke the end off one right near the tie rod end attachment point.

[Andy Lagzdins]

A Duncan chrome bumper protects the front end. These bumpers hold up surprising well in the GNCC races even though they don't use a bash plate.

[Honda#4]

Boy thats super sexy

[havinnoj]

Nice bike bro and the adjustable steering stem setup is cool. You put together a nice thread.

[k265r]

best looking front bumper ever made. imo

[hypersnyper6947]

Originally posted by Andy Lagzdins
I am running 13/38 gearing, which was good for all GNCC's except for Florida and maybe Indiana.

Loren Duncan has done all my porting on both 2 and 4 strokes.

Can you explain what gears you run and why you run different gearing in florida?

Thanks

[54warrior]

I love this thread.. And that pic with all the parts laid out is my new wallpaper. Wish I could buy that as a kit!!!

[8686]

Originally posted by 54warrior
I love this thread.. And that pic with all the parts laid out is my new wallpaper. Wish I could buy that as a kit!!!

That "kit" would easily cost you $20,000, maybe more.

[54warrior]

Originally posted by 8686
That "kit" would easily cost you $20,000, maybe more.

Worth it.

[CorvetteZ06]

lookin great, i also run 400EX spindles and calipers on both my 250R's. keep the pics coming!

[cletusEX]

Nice build Andy! You guys were still running the 250r's when I got into XC racing in District 7. The smell of a nice 2 stroke reminds me of how nervous I would get on the line down at Budds Creek waiting to start. When you switched to the 4 strokes I was happy cause at least I could hear you coming up to lap me!:p

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by 54warrior
Worth it.

X2...

[brandonpeake]

I was told by some reliable sources that you could take the laeger replacement frame they sale with the standard rear end and there wa sa dc-2 swingarm that is a nio link arm that is made to make it a no link setup with just a shock , no welds or naything else needed? I had never heard of this the seller has good feedback I cant get ahold of Scott Taylor at the moment have you ever heard of this?

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by hypersnyper6947
Can you explain what gears you run and why you run different gearing in florida?

Thanks

The best gearing for most of the GNCC's was 13/38 with the 275cc motor and 20" Holeshot XC's. When the Florida GNCC was in Okeechobee the track had some real long straights that needed more gear, so I would run a 36t rear sprocket. The Indiana GNCC had some long field sections also. If it was a muddy race, I would throw on a set of 22" XCT rear tires and 12t front/38t rear.

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by cletusEX
You guys were still running the 250r's when I got into XC racing in District 7. The smell of a nice 2 stroke reminds me of how nervous I would get on the line down at Budds Creek waiting to start. :p

Budds Creek and Antietam- ahhh the memories!

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by brandonpeake
I was told by some reliable sources that you could take the laeger replacement frame they sale with the standard rear end and there wa sa dc-2 swingarm that is a nio link arm that is made to make it a no link setup with just a shock , no welds or naything else needed? I had never heard of this the seller has good feedback I cant get ahold of Scott Taylor at the moment have you ever heard of this?

The setup that I sold alot of was the Roll no-link swingarm and Axis rear shock. The same swingarm as on the Roll chassis. This was a bolt-on setup, the only thing required was cutting off the linkage mount on the frame and relocating the airbox. I'm not sure if the Laeger parts were bolt-on or not.

[Andy Lagzdins]

Here's a pic of a Roll Lobo no-link swingarm on a ATC250R. The shock is a Custom Axis also from a Lobo XC frame. I had this setup on one of my Roll 250R's and bolted it right on this trike with just different upper shock mount collars and an airbox mod.

[Andy Lagzdins]

This is the older straight Roll arm, the Gull arm is the identical geometry to the straight arm. The main reason for the bend in the Gull arm is to get more material around the lower shock mount.

[CorvetteZ06]

that is 1 clean atc!!! is that yours?

[All250R]

Originally posted by Andy Lagzdins
This is the older straight Roll arm, the Gull arm is the identical geometry to the straight arm. The main reason for the bend in the Gull arm is to get more material around the lower shock mount.
Andy,
I've always run the regular TRX link. What did you gain going to the no-link setup? Is it an improvement only if you use a certain spring setup since you're losing the link ratios?

Thanks for sharing with us!
Jason

[05LSR250R]

You gain a long travel rear end. It requires a different shock.

[dtowndiesel]

It does require a different a different shock, but what makes the LOBO chassis a true long travel is the upper shock mount. Earlier XC models in the late 90's were built with a lower placed upper shock mount. If you look at Andy's pictures of his upper shock mount, the earlier XC models looked identical to that only about 2" lower. I have had both newer and older roll design chassis' and the way I have always understood the no-link setup is just for the sheer simplicity, less weight, fewer moving parts. Without shock linkage hanging below its one less target for rocks and stumps. Andy, your bike is beautiful, I just finished another LOBO chassis myself so I know how excited you must be. Thanks

[Prey]

Lookin good bro, cant wait to see the pics of her all finished up.


you going to enter it in the burnout contest next year LOL

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by All250R

I've always run the regular TRX link. What did you gain going to the no-link setup? Is it an improvement only if you use a certain spring setup since you're losing the link ratios?
Jason

The shock is set up for the no-link swingarm, and works great when set up properly. I'd put it up against anything out there currently. I've raced YZ, KX, and KTM dirtbikes the last few years and my current KTM with no-link feels just as good as the linkage bikes.

The ease of maintenance, less moving parts, and ground clearance are good benefits, also. The Elka and ARS-FX linkage I've been using on my 450R's hangs quite low. When the Elka link first came out in 2004, I broke a prototype in half during a GNCC! It happened at the Wisp (of course) right before I came off the slopes and back onto the pavement section. My rear end was totally collapsed, and I was trying to get it into the pits to fix it. They had wooden ramps set up where we would ride off a retaining wall onto the parking lot and the broken part of my linkage caught on the top edge of the ramp. I did a handstand with a front hood faceplant onto the tarmac and bowling-balled a couple of those blue water barriers that lined the course.

[Andy Lagzdins]

This is one of the motors I used in 2003. At the beginning of the year I ordered up everything to build two motors. Everypiece brand new from the cases out. I started with 87 cases and 89 transmission. Baldwin gearset. Stock 89 crank. Hinson basket and Duncan QC cover. The cylinder is a 275cc PC2000 with Pyramid reed cage and 36mm Keihin carb. This motor makes great power for GNCC racing, and is super reliable.

[Andy Lagzdins]

For those of you not familiar with this type of power valve, it's a knife valve that forms the top of the exhaust port, and the valve is raised by an exhaust vacuum actuated diaphragm. The same thing was used on Sea-Doo motors for years. The cylinder casting is made by Duncan exclusively for their PC2000's. The head is billet with removeable domes. The cases don't need to be modified for the 265 or 275cc cylinders, but for the 305 and 340cc versions the cases need to be bored to fit the cylinder.

[Andy Lagzdins]

Here I have all the mounting hardware ready to go. The Roll chassis uses all the mounts on the motor cases, and I would run without the mount on the top of the cylinder head. I never had a problem with the motor mounts coming loose or breaking. One thing that did happen was debris would get caught in between the swingarm and the cases, and because it was such a tight fit the cases would be damaged or cracked.

[Meat]

Hey Andy, im a big fan, and its great to see you building a 2 stroker.

I have the same exact ARS\fx no-link swingarm as you have. I bought mine from Wes about 3 years ago and till I seen yours, I have never seen or heard of anyone owning this swingarm. I bought the matching custom axis rear shock, but it seems a little short in length. I can't remember the exact length right now, but I would love to know the eye to eye length of your rear shock and any setup tips would be great.

Here's a picture of my swingarm...
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh165/bansheezone/LRD%20300R/CIMG0986.jpg

[k265r]

dude you got screwed you center cases are used. just a joke, awesome thread. ive found i can get more power to the ground with a no link setup. oops the secrets out.

[dtowndiesel]

Originally posted by Andy Lagzdins
Here I have all the mounting hardware ready to go. The Roll chassis uses all the mounts on the motor cases, and I would run without the mount on the top of the cylinder head. I never had a problem with the motor mounts coming loose or breaking. One thing that did happen was debris would get caught in between the swingarm and the cases, and because it was such a tight fit the cases would be damaged or cracked.

Does your frame have the headstay motor mount?

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by Meat

I have the same exact ARS\fx no-link swingarm as you have. I bought mine from Wes about 3 years ago and till I seen yours, I have never seen or heard of anyone owning this swingarm. I bought the matching custom axis rear shock, but it seems a little short in length. I can't remember the exact length right now, but I would love to know the eye to eye length of your rear shock and any setup tips would be great.


The eye to eye is 18 1/4" on my shock.

[Andy Lagzdins]

Originally posted by dtowndiesel
Does your frame have the headstay motor mount?

My frame does not have the headstay mount.

[Andy Lagzdins]

Motor mounts into the frame easily, not a tight fit at all.

[Andy Lagzdins]

The JRD radiator is a very tight fit. These radiators are well made and are made to fit a variety of frames.

[Andy Lagzdins]

I had to enlarge the holes in the radiator mounts a little to make the radiator fit, and the steering stem clears it by about 1/4".

[Andy Lagzdins]

Here is the complete wiring harness, including the CDI, coil, and Pro Design kill switch. I get rid of everything that is not absolutely necessary to run the quad. I silicone the plugs that go to the CDI and stator.

[Andy Lagzdins]

Here is the wire harness and coolant hoses installed. The hose on the left is the stock hose cut to fit.The grounds for the harness and the kill switch tie into the upper radiator mount on the left side.

[Andy Lagzdins]

The hose on the right side is stock, and doesn't need to be cut. I use 28mm hose clamps. I use Engine Ice coolant in all my quads.

[05LSR250R]

Awesome info. Andy! Is that radiator still available to the public? Sure would like one! Its by far the best I've seen!

[laeger2fiddyr]

what do u run for the wiring harness?

[54warrior]

Originally posted by laeger2fiddyr
what do u run for the wiring harness?

Looks like he took the stock harness and modified it so that it's only the stuff which is absolutely necessary.


Originally posted by Andy Lagzdins
Here is the complete wiring harness, including the CDI, coil, and Pro Design kill switch. I get rid of everything that is not absolutely necessary to run the quad. I silicone the plugs that go to the CDI and stator.

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by Andy Lagzdins
Motor mounts into the frame easily, not a tight fit at all.

isnt that a stock carb? why dont you have a PWK or a Air stryker?

[trx250rider]

thats not a stock carb...i know its a duncan racing carb and looks like a pj but most likely a 36mm or a 36mm bored to a 37.3mm with duncans flow work..i also have one

[cletusEX]

I know a few guys are regetting selling their R's after seeing this build! If I ever win the lottery the first thing I'm going to build is a nice aftermarket XC 250R!

[reloadz400]

Sick build!:D

[lucas70374]

can you PM me with details about the radiator and fitment. I have a Roll Design LOBO and tried installing a oversized PWR and it looks impossible

[DezSled]

Beautiful work. That afco looks double the capacity of a pwr.

The pwr does fit into the roll lobo frame, cap is hard to get to work but does with a little adjusting.

[woodsracer144]

are teh stock carbs Kehin left to right and not up and down? i couldnt rember what way they went...

[trx250rider]

it went up and down on the pj style carbs

[cletusEX]

Andy, how's the build going? Found a rare picture of you on a 4 stroke in early 03. This was the Hangover XC at Antietam in Jan. 03. My first race ever and I think you took the overall on a 400ex. Don't worry I won't tell anyone!:eek: haha

Nick

[DezSled]

Anything new to the Roll racebike??

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by DezSled
Beautiful work. That afco looks double the capacity of a pwr.

The pwr does fit into the roll lobo frame, cap is hard to get to work but does with a little adjusting.

2 questions...

how do you run for a startor to power those lights and how loud is that horn?

[54warrior]

bump

[DezSled]

woodracer-

Ricky Stator did the rewind 200+ watts output. 2-55w & 1-100w bulbs

The air horn scares the poop outta ya when you accidentally grab the lever. Try a boating outlet for a similar setup. Very loud.

Congratulations on the win @ SF250 Andy.

[woodsracer144]

any more pics on the build up? Dez you got a pm... dont wanna jack the post...

also andy, do you know of any one else besides LSR that makes a no link swinger yet? my PRP is crackin up and i dont wanna keep re welding it... i want to have my quad done right... thanks good luck with the racing!

[RUTHLESS]

crickets???

[woodsracer144]

what?

[89rwfo]

Originally posted by RUTHLESS
crickets???
What are you smoking?

[mcarlson1]

I think he meant crickets as if nothing is happening on this thread lately. Am i close??

Thanks,
Mike

[RUTHLESS]

does anyone know if andy finished this yet?

[LAWLESS23]

Originally posted by RUTHLESS
does anyone know if andy finished this yet?

I second that. This thread was moving great and then it just stopped. I was hoping to see the finished product and then some action pics.

[woodsracer144]

mabie racing pulled him away or something

[Brauap]

I WANT UPDATESSSS OR ATLEAST A PICTURE OF THE QUAD FINISHED! :scary:

[250Renvy]

Saw him browsing the board and thought I'd send a reminder - what happened?

[250rPRIDE]

ya i would like to see a finished product pic too

[RUTHLESS]

andy any updates???

[poogi]

Originally posted by LAWLESS23
I second that. This thread was moving great and then it just stopped. I was hoping to see the finished product and then some action pics. he moved to Cali ...getting settled in I suppose .:confused:

[markk]

Hey andy how did the build go?? a friend and i where talking about it a few days ago thought i would check into it. Let us know somthing man!!!!!!!

[markk]

I got to asking around- i dont know if he ever finished his quad up- But he is out west racing still! Everyone said he is doing good.

[RUTHLESS]

Anybody heard from andy???

[TLR-Online]

Originally posted by 250Renvy
Saw him browsing the board and thought I'd send a reminder - what happened?

+1

[Andy Lagzdins]

Hey you guys-

In case anyone didn't know I started getting heavy into desert racing with Team Christy in 2009 and ended up winning the Score Overall Championship. Then I moved out to LA at the end of 2009 to concentrate on racing in the desert and WORCS.

The Roll 250R in the build is sitting in the basement of my house in Baltimore and hasn't been touched since the last installment in this forum.

I'm hoping to do some work on it during my trip home for the holidays- sorry for the delay. I'm going to go ahead and say that you can't rush perfection!

Thanks for being patient and thanks to everyone who has supported me through the years- especially the great TRX250R era!

Andy

[JTRtrx250r]

simply *****in'!:cool:

[skippy1999]

Andy, we miss you over here on the East coast! BCOPD says hi!

[woodsracer144]

Originally posted by Andy Lagzdins
Hey you guys-

In case anyone didn't know I started getting heavy into desert racing with Team Christy in 2009 and ended up winning the Score Overall Championship. Then I moved out to LA at the end of 2009 to concentrate on racing in the desert and WORCS.

The Roll 250R in the build is sitting in the basement of my house in Baltimore and hasn't been touched since the last installment in this forum.

I'm hoping to do some work on it during my trip home for the holidays- sorry for the delay. I'm going to go ahead and say that you can't rush perfection!

Thanks for being patient and thanks to everyone who has supported me through the years- especially the great TRX250R era!

Andy

thanks for the up date! Maybe some day you and Mat could own up on the Pro class on the Ole R's! nice build so far best of luck with all your racing!

[markk]

thanks andy!!!! glad to see everything is going good out west too man!

[Honda 250r 001]

What about now? Any updates? :cool:

[team green2009]

this same guy?

[team green2009]

Originally posted by team green2009
this same guy?

[HAYESTRX250R]

When this build is complete I think another magazine write up is in order!

[red88r]

Just got my new Dirtwheels...he is in a Moose Racing ad as the 2011 Pro Atv Champion on the first page. Congrats!

[poogi]

badass

[poogi]

badass
:D

[Higgy87TRX425]

Andy your Mail box is full and I have an important message for you!
Please empty it!
Thanks Higgy!

[89trx250r]

Sadly I dont think Andy has logged in for about 2 years :(

[DezSled]

You might try the dirt first site.

[Higgy87TRX425]

I was just curious about the radiator that he was running on his Lobo and I saw that it was a JRD. Thats all I needed to know!
Thanks Higgy

[pepshocks]

My buddie wes stone of stone concepts just bought it off Andy- I just saw it n it's amazing!!! Wow!!!!

[hawaiiysr]

So it should be listed part by part on ebay soon.

[pepshocks]

No, he is finishing it n putting it next to his 7 other roll designs and his Kellner built laeger 250r

[DezSled]

Now that's picture that would be cool to see...

[Meat]

So Wes finally got his ARS-FX no-link swingarm :D

[RUTHLESS]

WE need pics!!!!!!!

darn this sucks, i was looking forward to seeing andy finish this 250r then race it on the west coast and back on the east coast

[pepshocks]

I will keep u guys posted on progress when I get some pics

[RUTHLESS]

pics????????????????????????????????????????

[tbone250r]

bump........i wish this thread didn't go cold

[pepshocks]

Didn't get over there for pics yet sorry guys

[tbone250r]

Check out what Andy has been doing!

http://www.dirtfirstracing.com/?p=394