Have you owned a z400 and a 400ex which is betterPost PICS

[lt2504stroke]

Which is the best for reliablility?
How good does the stock suspention work on them?
Are ltr450 a arms and shocks tradable with the z400 and trx450 with the 400ex?
Im looking for that reliable quad I can go out in any weather or condition and fire it right up?
Which handles the best?
What do you recommend for my riding I go to the track every once in a while and ride alot of wheelies and trails?
I know my maintenence for a quad?
Which is lighter?
Whats a better all around quad?
What the hp on both quads?
Whats speed wise (top speed)
POST PICS if you have either quad with a 450 front end please.

[trx400 rider]

ok im not just telling you this cause i have a trx400 but there hold up wonderful but it depends on how u treat it.and what ever one that feels better to you.i not to big on Z400 feel it just feel tippy to me but like i said what ever feels better to you both good bikes

[lt2504stroke]

thanks trx400 rider it will be well kept so prolly go with the 400ex but Im really like the z400 if the a arms and shocks of the ltr450 are interchangable that would be great and the rear axle off one then I got and alright quad but liquid cooled sounds good too .thanks for the advise.

[trx400 rider]

well i dont know about the ltr shocks to the Z but the 450r shocks can go on the trx 400 and the 450r carb upgrade to the 400ex is amazing

[mattonln]

the trx400ex is a great bike, but as far as technology goes, the z400 has it spanked. the z has a much stronger motor, comes stock with reservoir shocks, has reverse and is much more updated than the 400. Now remember, Im a honda guy! just saying from experience. really, both bikes are awesome.

[lt2504stroke]

thanks for the help guys!
Arent ltr450 a arms +2 stock?
Im looking towards a z400 right now as the looks of it.
Does anyone know if the ltr450 a arms and shocks are interchangable thats really the deciding factor plus liquid cooled.

[rob_990]

id get a z if i were you as long as its not the fist couple years they came out.(they had problems with frames craking) the z is liquid cooled the ex is fan cooled and the newer ones have better shocks than the ex.the z is also a little bit faster than the ex stock.As for reliability the ex is pretty much bullet proof although i havent heard of any major engine problems of the z.

im not sure about the aarms but im pretty sure the 450r shocks work on the z cause my friends got an older z and as far as i can tell we have the same front shocks.iknow the 450r/yfz shocks work on the ex for sure.

[motox92]

I would go with the 400ex

[chevys&honda$]

for sure go get a z400, i love honda's but the z has better shocks, seat, looks, power water cooled and reverse!! i had one for 2 years before i got my trx450r, they are awesome all around bike a ton of fun in whatever your doing dirt,sand,mud,snow great trail bike just a great bike, with a few simple mods they will keep up with just about anything easy to wheelie and fast.

[JHracing4]

I owned an 05 z400 and it was a great bike. One thing about the Z is to make sure the valves are in spec when you buy it because the stock valves are pretty weak. I would suggest getting kibble whites or ferra vavles if you do get one. other that that it was an awesome bike and the suspension is pretty good for stock.

I know that the ltr shocks and arms are not interchangable but 450r shocks bolt up but are practically the same as the 05 and up stockers. hope that helps.

heres a pic before i sold it:

http://i42.tinypic.com/14l64q9.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/12223rd.jpg

[turboed]

i have the ex400 but i rode a z400 in the past and i thought it was a fun ride,i would get either one of them.

[zracer16]

I have owned both and the Z is hands down a better all around quad. I know the 450r shocks will fit on both quads, but if you get an 05 or up Z the shocks are not bad(for stock) and the thing is they are fully adjustable. I would just send them out and get them revalved/resprung to your weight and riding style.

[lt2504stroke]

thanks for all the help guys

If you have pics of either quad post them on here.

[motox92]

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm270/lilpimpinkkidd_2008/honda400ex027.jpg

[chevys&honda$]

is that pipe zipp tied on? is that a stock 450r pipe?

[motox92]

It was like that for a day, I didnt have a stock one for a 400 so I threw the 450 on there

[mittman]

Well I own a 02 400ex which I love. Im doing a rebuild on my friends 05 z400 decided to do it after the motor blew. Its now a 434 and has some zip to it. since I did most the work on it I thought it was only fair to take it on a little ride. When im on it i dont feel as relaxed as my ex(i feel like i sit up higher). It does ride nice on the trail better than my ex but it does have reservoir shocks. When I was riding it I forgot about reverse on it. Ive gone 3 years with out reverse on my ex and never once complained about not having it(sport bikes are easy to whip around anyway). Yes the z400 is liquid cooled which is nice if you like to go in first gear all day long. At higher rpms it keeps the motor a bit cooler than air cooled but liquid cooled to me thats just one more thing to keep a eye on. Both of them have a great market for add ons. I do regular maintenance and my ex and hasnt let me down yet(knock on wood). I went with the ex because well they are bullet proof, they were good for trail people like me and I liked the body style of it(I prefer it over the new style). To sum everything up both quads are great. no matter what you get as long as you do the regular maintenance on them it will keep going for a long time.

Right after I first got it.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll267/dodgediesellover/atvs/michaelpictures307.jpg


Im not afraid to ride mine hard
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll267/dodgediesellover/atvs/muddy4002.jpg


Z400
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll267/dodgediesellover/atvs/l_1ed4653e74134140ad37bd0403c0fbea.jpg

The 434 is a blast
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll267/dodgediesellover/atvs/l_ed31da0411474f7180c373c7fa3a4faf.jpg

[Old Head]

Originally posted by rob_990
id get a z if i were you as long as its not the fist couple years they came out.(they had problems with frames craking) the z is liquid cooled the ex is fan cooled and the newer ones have better shocks than the ex.the z is also a little bit faster than the ex stock.As for reliability the ex is pretty much bullet proof although i havent heard of any major engine problems of the z.

im not sure about the aarms but im pretty sure the 450r shocks work on the z cause my friends got an older z and as far as i can tell we have the same front shocks.iknow the 450r/yfz shocks work on the ex for sure.

I can't seem to find the fan on my 400ex:ermm:

[motox92]

Cant seem to find my fan either

[Joshbeasley]

i have a 2001 400ex for my girlfriend to ride and a 07 dvx400 for me. the 400 has a white brothers mxr(or something like that) exhaust and a air filter. i bought my dvx brand new last september and it is stock besides some razr tires and nerf bars for now. i like my dvx better. the ex sits you lower in the seat but i like the punch and go of the dvx. the suspension is alot better on the dvx also. since i like to ride tight woods the liquid cooling is nice. these are probally the two most durable quads built.

[John Rogers]

I hjave an o3Z,I have broken the frame twice,Not one bit happy with frame.I have also had to replace 1 lower arm(Ball joint) .All upper and lower aarm bearings(Mud).And the timing chain.I still love it,A little under powered to run with a 450 but getum where they cant use all that power and it wil suprise you. D6 harescramble rider and flat track 111.

[Joshbeasley]

the 03z is known for weak frames. they changed the supplier for 04 and went with better material. if you ride mx it needs a gusset kit anyways. how did you break the frame?

[rob_990]

Originally posted by motox92
Cant seem to find my fan either

sorry i meant air cooled but it is possible to install a fan on them.

[crixal]

i've owned the ex & rode a lot of z and the z is a much better ride. it's faster stock, liquid cooled, and looked better. if you're buying new, def get the z400, fuel injection.

[trailrider894]

yeah i'm pretty much gonna put this fan on my 400ex. i'm thinking it might help with heat fade. :devil:

http://www.aoc.gov/cvc/photos/images/10-17-05BigFan_lg.jpg

[riding red]

I RIDE HONDA 400EX BUT I GOT +2 A ARMS AND I LOVE THIS THING, MINOR ENGINE WORK (426) KIT AND IT RIDES LIKE A DREAM , NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS STARTING AND HAS VERY GOOD POWER. IWAS AT THE DUNES IN YUMA AND DRAGGED AGAINST THE Z400 AND BLEW RIGHT BY THEM. ride red

[riding red]

try running av gas its what we run in the hot sun, it does help

[lt2504stroke]

I need parts for my 400ex I just bought.javascript:smilie(':D')
Any websites you know of thats got em cheap other than ebay.
Im looking for a +2+4 axle and long travel a arms and shocks. I had works before and didn't really like them Whats the best for my buck. I have a triple in my yard about 35ftlong nice jump. Whats the best rear shock.
here is more info on the bike

416 kit
Curtis sparks full exhaust
rev box
hot rod crank and crank bearings
stage 2 hot cams
450r carb
crf450 cam chain
stock suspension
stock swing arm
pro taper bars
razor tires
itp rims
ac Nerf bars
nac graphics
full bore plastics
gusset kit
Now if I only had a camera or camera phone.
Not to bad of a quad and a nice buy at $2100 good for a 14 year olds salary.javascript:smilie(':)')

[riding red]

you can try looking at rockymountainatv , i have a lonestar axle that i got there for around 200 bucks, although ebay is alot of the time the cheapest