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tants
12-20-2002, 05:07 PM
how close is almostchrome powdercoat to chrome? i want some chrome parts on my 250r. if there powdercoat looks almost as good then i will do it. how good would an almostchrome swingarm, motor mounts, or even upper aarms look?
if anyone has anypics please post
thanks

Woodsrider
12-20-2002, 07:28 PM
It aint that close, I think it kind looks like stainless IMO.

Pappy
12-20-2002, 07:30 PM
the smaller the part...the better it is.

Pappy
12-20-2002, 07:33 PM
i have done stems in chrome pc....they look like aluminum after the clear is applied. i dont recomend it for large parts that you want to look like chrome....

Glamis400ex
12-20-2002, 07:43 PM
Hey Pappy,

how much to pc all 4 of my hubs just like that 1st pic??

Glamis

Pappy
12-20-2002, 07:46 PM
hubs are $15 each . you must get the bearings removed from the front hubs also. i did not add clear to my rear hubs and they did fine. but i would if you really want them to last. it will dull the chrome a bit...because the clear is actually less shinier then the chrome. but from any distance it will look like chrome.

i just bought chromed spindles.....and i honestly think i would have been just as happy with the pc:grr

ny300exrider
12-21-2002, 07:53 AM
hey...how much for a few small things in the almost chrome pc... the throttle cover, the other little parts on the bars.....thanks pappy,

Butters
12-21-2002, 11:16 AM
what about motor mounts? if you did my motor mounts would it with stand the heat from my motor cause i painted them black and after driving all day the motor got hot and the paint kinda started to run but only a little.

CBW
12-21-2002, 11:46 AM
as a rule all standard powdercoat will withstand constant heat up to 350*


here is some almost chrome i did.

CBW
12-21-2002, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by CHRIS WATERS
as a rule all standard powdercoat will withstand constant heat up to 350*


here is some almost chrome i did.


oops hit the wrong button:o

ny300exrider
12-21-2002, 02:00 PM
that looks awsome...how would a front bumper look in almost chrome?i might do my ac that,i think thatd look cool

tants
12-21-2002, 03:38 PM
chris what kind of swingarm is that?

would your recondmend that for a swingarm? or would it get beat up quickly? is that just almost chrome pc or with the clearcoat?? man that shines!

CBW
12-21-2002, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by TANTS
chris what kind of swingarm is that?

would your recondmend that for a swingarm? or would it get beat up quickly? is that just almost chrome pc or with the clearcoat?? man that shines!


That is an older banshee swing arm.........with a clear over the almost chrome......


As far as it being good for a swing arm,,,,,,,sure why not...........


i did a friends and he MX'ed with it all last year,,,,,,,the only mark on it is where a sprocket nut came off and the ratainer piece was flopping around and hit the arm a bit......

as far as it shining it all depends on the light and the angle

CBW
12-21-2002, 04:20 PM
the one for mx.......still looks the same after a summer of racing......

tants
12-21-2002, 08:47 PM
almostchrome it is. could i pc my rear shock linkage as well?

CBW
12-21-2002, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by TANTS
almostchrome it is. could i pc my rear shock linkage as well?

dont see why not;)

d-14 rider 27
12-24-2002, 05:50 PM
anyone know where i can buy a powdercoating gun? what is a powdercoating gun? is powder coat just baked on paint??? id like to start powdercoating my own a-arms, swingarm, etc.. the ***** that gets scratched up a lot. that almost chrome pc is sweet. id rather have that than chrome. chrome rusts if you dont take care of it

Pappy
12-24-2002, 05:55 PM
try columbia coatings.com or eastwood company.com

the hobby guns are great for small stuff and you can even do yer frame if ya have a big enough oven:p

i think columia's site has a brief how to section...check it out:)

racerx573
12-24-2002, 07:23 PM
I like this better than almost chrome....(thanks to the Papster)

racerx573
12-24-2002, 07:24 PM
another..

d-14 rider 27
12-24-2002, 09:08 PM
dang pappy, are those the hobby guns you was talkin about for 800 bucks?!?!?!:eek: i think a 2.99 can of rust-oleum will continue to work for me, i did my frame with the hammered finish stuff, hehe. im actually really impressed how well it holds up, bout as good as a good coat of paint. pappy, can you match herrmanns red silvervein. thats the coolest color i think

Pappy
12-24-2002, 09:15 PM
the redvein is on order:macho

ummm....try eastwood.....or hot coat.com for a more economical set up. i believe they sell for $200 or less.

d-14 rider 27
12-24-2002, 09:34 PM
thanks pappy

Glamis400ex
12-24-2002, 10:07 PM
This is Herrmann redvein...

Pappy
12-24-2002, 10:11 PM
thats sweet!!! it almost looks like translucent red over whitevein:devil i have both:eek: looks like i will find me something to bling out tomarrow;) :D

Ralph
12-24-2002, 10:13 PM
hehehe, i could scrap up some more parts

or go to ricos and pick up some more beercans...

12-24-2002, 10:14 PM
a question for you pc pro's. Do all these fancy custom colors hold up as good or are as tough as the basic black and vein type pc's?

thnx

Pappy
12-24-2002, 10:15 PM
i have 2 big boxes or mr. rico's parts right beside me:devil

Pappy
12-24-2002, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by 440EX4me
a question for you pc pro's. Do all these fancy custom colors hold up as good or are as tough as the basic black and vein type pc's?

thnx

if clear is applied...yes. the new translucents are clear based so they dont need the clear...but its added durability. when i strip non cleared pc parts...its fairly easy. but if the part has been cleared...its a b!tch:mad:

12-24-2002, 10:20 PM
SO is the strenght or protection in the clear? How about the gloss is that in the clear also?

Ralph
12-24-2002, 10:20 PM
all my parts have help up great so far, kudos to kenny

Glamis400ex
12-24-2002, 10:20 PM
Pappy,

How do I know if mine have been cleared? I can't tell, or don't know how to tell.

Glamis

Pappy
12-24-2002, 10:26 PM
440....the gloss is designed in the powder....some have it...some dont. most powders will tell you if it needs to have clear for durability or not.


the clear seems harder to me then the basic blacks and standard industrial colors. so i would have to say yes. and the clear is a huge help in bringing out a finish that truly stands apart.


as far as how to tell, sometimes ya cant. i asked quad041 if his parts were cleared...he said...dont look like it. well they were....clear over silvervein. thats stuff is like concrete:macho my hat is off to LSR....nice pc right there.

mysticfalcon
12-24-2002, 10:55 PM
my bugard swingarm was clear over silvervein. ive got about 3 ghours into blasting it and it is still half p-coated. i dont think im ever gonna get to the metal

Pappy
12-24-2002, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by 440EX4me
SO is the strenght or protection in the clear? How about the gloss is that in the clear also?

missed your reply:(

the clear adds a ton of durabilty and strength. it is added work but not necassary on some parts. like on brake levers and shifters....i ALWAYS add clear. stuff like clutch perches and others that dont get the snott beat out of them i may...or may not. its an expierence thing i geuss...or ones personal opinion.


the gloss....

several colors are very high gloss....some arent. high gloss black actually looks better in my opinion with out clear. i talked with a powder rep. about this and he said basically the new gloss additives are of a higher content and the clear actually dulls them.

alot of old time pc'ers knock the new stuff....let them continue to do just that. the new age of powder is here to stay and if they dont catch up then they will be left behind. new procedures and methods are being implemented all the time.

Pappy
12-24-2002, 10:58 PM
mystic....if it comes down to it....use a plumbers torch to help break the adhesive bond. it aint perty but will work in a pinch.

12-24-2002, 11:38 PM
Pappy I see some of the same "old timer" v/s "young gun" issues in the auto paint process as well, and mostly they are pretty funny if nothing else. I have begun to agree with both schools of thinking in diff situations since if you can get the desired result who am I to argue.

I am now thinking if there are diff solids contents in pc coatings like there is in urethane and epoxy paints, cause that could make a big diff in gloss and how it allows the base or primary color to shine thru.

Pappy
12-25-2002, 06:55 AM
440 is a wise one for sure:) and i couldnt agree more.

new vs old......it is a never ending fight i reckon. but i dont pretend to be a chemist. i just follow thier directions and if it screws up i ask them:p