Some help getting my engine ready for a turbo

[adawg89]

Ok I'm gonna be putting turbo on my 400ex and I was to get internal of the engine to be able to handle the turbo.

I was thinking of doing this.

Stage 2 hotcam
CRf 450r cam chain
TRX 450R carb
upgrade valves and springs (need help with good company that makes these)
over bore to 416 or 426 (opinions on this would be nice and what website has 416 or 426 bore kit or what will be good piston and piston ring combo?)
exhaust (what companies make good pipes along be able to hook to a turbo or what not)
Bigger oil cooler.
GT thunder head studs

Opinions? What mods did I miss?

First thing I'm gonna do is do intake over bore and exhaust for now.

[trailrider894]

well. there will be plastic and body mods u will have to perform did u get the turbo already??

[Pipeless416]

HD rod. look into kibblewhite for valves.

[adawg89]

Originally posted by trailrider894
well. there will be plastic and body mods u will have to perform did u get the turbo already??

no not yet I'm doing the engine first.

[400ex28]

HD head studs

[adawg89]

Originally posted by 400ex28
HD head studs

Oh I forgot to add that I'm thinking of getting GT thunder head studs will that be ok or does ARP make head studs for 400ex?

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Pipeless416
HD rod. look into kibblewhite for valves.

You mean connecting rod for the piston right?

[Pipeless416]

yep. i believe most people have a custom lower compression piston made too.

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Pipeless416
yep. i believe most people have a custom lower compression piston made too.

I don't think I would want lower compression especially when I'm gonna turbo.

[Pipeless416]

thats specifically when people usually lower compression.. when they add a turbocharger. i don't want to steer you in the wrong direction since i just don't know, so i'll just leave it at that, but i recall so many people saying they lowered their compression to somewhere around 7:1 or 8:1.

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Pipeless416
thats specifically when people usually lower compression.. when they add a turbocharger. i don't want to steer you in the wrong direction since i just don't know, so i'll just leave it at that, but i recall so many people saying they lowered their compression to somewhere around 7:1 or 8:1.

I think I know what you mean they go to 7:1 that way when the turbo is added the compression rise lets say for example to a 11:1? instead of having 11:1 now without turbo then putting one and getting 15:1 and boom.

That was a example.

[wilkin250r]

For all the same reasons that people are posting, you might want to stick with the stock bore rather than a 416 or 426.

You want to stay away from higher compression, turbo has a huge impact. The numbers say that your stock 9.1:1 compression becomes 11:1 at a modest 5psi boost, and obviously even higher with more boost. And 5psi isn't even a lot of boost, if you go higher, you're already looking at race gas, even with the "low" stock compression ratio.

This is why I'd forget about a big-bore motor, not because of the bigger bore, but because they almost always utilize a high-compression piston. I'd suggest you stick with the stock compression.

[adawg89]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
For all the same reasons that people are posting, you might want to stick with the stock bore rather than a 416 or 426.

You want to stay away from higher compression, turbo has a huge impact. The numbers say that your stock 9.1:1 compression becomes 11:1 at a modest 5psi boost, and obviously even higher with more boost. And 5psi isn't even a lot of boost, if you go higher, you're already looking at race gas, even with the "low" stock compression ratio.

This is why I'd forget about a big-bore motor, not because of the bigger bore, but because they almost always utilize a high-compression piston. I'd suggest you stick with the stock compression.

Ok but I will need like HD piston and piston rings won't I? What will be good piston and piston ring combo like company wise?

Edit: Is this when I look for stock piston that has high compression? So that it can take the high compression?

Edit edit: What about a dsm a piston? like I use dsm piston head with the 4 wheeler connecting arm and wrist pin I mean dsm piston is 85mm standard by any chance is 400ex standard bore 85mm? dsm pistons can take 14 psi stock and can be raised to 20 psi along with the list I mention above in this engine also.

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

im doing that same projesct but im going to leave mine stock im trying to figure out how i can make my own oil tank b/c i dont know if its going to fit with the turbo, I also saw a guy in this forum that made his turbo and that t make an sealed airbox bigger than stock to reduce the pulse of the turbo since is only one cylinder

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

p.s. the turbo im using its out a saab got it in a junker for 20 $ + the rebulid ill put pics later on....

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
p.s. the turbo im using its out a saab got it in a junker for 20 $ + the rebulid ill put pics later on....

please do I pmed 3 people on here and on youtube and no responses from them I'm thinking of using IHI RHB3 turbo since it small enough for the 400ex how much psi will you think you can get out of stock internals? so I can get a estimate of how much I can with HD internals along with upgrades.

I wonder if the saab intercooler is small enough to use on 4 wheeler? What intercooler are you using?

Edit: the saab came with T3 turbo oil cooled and water cooled and TE05 those turbo are lil big for 400ex unless its some turbo I did'nt hear about that came from a saab please let me know what kind of turbo it is.

[rideracelivemx7]

i sure hope your goingtosend the head in to get hd studs or youll pull the head right up like using a bad head on a 440 stroker, hd studs, stock compression(lower if possible) race gas and stage 2 or 3 cam will help with lowering the compression and a whole mess of jets :)

[adawg89]

Originally posted by rideracelivemx7
i sure hope your goingtosend the head in to get hd studs or youll pull the head right up like using a bad head on a 440 stroker, hd studs, stock compression(lower if possible) race gas and stage 2 or 3 cam will help with lowering the compression and a whole mess of jets :)

I'm not gonna over bore it gonna keep it stock I'm getting GT thunder head studs unless ARP makes some for 400ex and I am gonna go lower ocmpression also.

[Exrider434]

Originally posted by adawg89


Edit edit: What about a dsm a piston? like I use dsm piston head with the 4 wheeler connecting arm and wrist pin I mean dsm piston is 85mm standard by any chance is 400ex standard bore 85mm? dsm pistons can take 14 psi stock and can be raised to 20 psi along with the list I mention above in this engine also.

Are you talking like a dsm car piston and rod? and yes i believe stock bore is 85mm

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Exrider434
Are you talking like a dsm car piston and rod? and yes i believe stock bore is 85mm

a car piston not rod or is the piston head to tall for it will bottom of the piston hit the crank shaft? Thats what I think may happen.

[Exrider434]

it looks pretty different from a 400ex piston, but the chances that your gonna find a rod and wrist pin that will fit the piston arent very high.

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Exrider434
it looks pretty different from a 400ex piston, but the chances that your gonna find a rod and wrist pin that will fit the piston arent very high.

I thought so I'll stick to 400ex piston.

[Exrider434]

the one above is a dsm piston, this is a 400ex piston. Its very unlikely that it would all work out and the valves would just happen to fall into the same grooves.

[adawg89]

Ah I see what would be good piston and piston ring combo for stock bore? like company wise.

[Exrider434]

ive heard good things about lots of company's, Wiseco, JE, Pro-X, Namura. Any of them will be good ,but like the others said try and get a low comp one

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Exrider434
ive heard good things about lots of company's, Wiseco, JE, Pro-X, Namura. Any of them will be good ,but like the others said try and get a low comp one

Whats lowest compression piston there is? or if I go to low I can blow the piston with the turbo?

Will I need to get a heavy duty crankshaft assembly like this? http://www.rockymountainatv.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&webTypeId=50&navTitle=Engine&webCatId=17&prodFamilyId=16313#vehicleSelect

[Exrider434]

im not sure the lowest comp, someone above said they get them custom made. Stock compression or just under should be fine, someone said that with 5psi of boost itll bump the compression to 11:1 instead of 9:1 so if you maybe went a little lower and got the compression right around 9-10 thatd be good

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Exrider434
im not sure the lowest comp, someone above said they get them custom made. Stock compression or just under should be fine, someone said that with 5psi of boost itll bump the compression to 11:1 instead of 9:1 so if you maybe went a little lower and got the compression right around 9-10 thatd be good

Hmm if I got lower comrpession what else has to be changed to run the low compression piston?

[Exrider434]

prolly nothing since the boost will be making up for the lost compression, but im not positive. someone else may say different

[Brauap]

Just PM FoxHondaRider. He has a turbo on his 400EX and he put it on in less than a day, isn't that right, Fox?

haha

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Brauap
Just PM FoxHondaRider. He has a turbo on his 400EX and he put it on in less than a day, isn't that right, Fox?

haha

He did that as a joke actually lol

[Brauap]

Originally posted by adawg89
He did that as a joke actually lol

Really!?

[Pipeless416]

and now hes banned lol. survival of the mentally fittest. he lost. adawg, are you buying a kit, or everything separately?

hahaha i remember that. 400ex-t

Anyway, back on subject,

I hope you know what your doing. A turbo is a very extensive modification.

Honestly, I wouldn't want to take any chances. If i were building a turbo, I would upgrade the entire engine. Hotrods/Wiesco Trued and Welded crank, custom low-compression piston around 8.1:1 (I believe CP makes custom pistons to order) HD head studs, HD valves/springs/retainers, and the best gasket kit I could find.

That way the motor would be rock solid and reliable.

[Pipeless416]

ps- not sure if you've ever seen this thread

http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=344994&perpage=13&highlight=turbo%20400ex&pagenumber=1

[adawg89]

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
hahaha i remember that. 400ex-t

Anyway, back on subject,

I hope you know what your doing. A turbo is a very extensive modification.

Honestly, I wouldn't want to take any chances. If i were building a turbo, I would upgrade the entire engine. Hotrods/Wiesco Trued and Welded crank, custom low-compression piston around 8.1:1 (I believe CP makes custom pistons to order) HD head studs, HD valves/springs/retainers, and the best gasket kit I could find.

That way the motor would be rock solid and reliable.

Thats what I'm doing I'll provide links of the stuff I'm planning on buying and get you're guys opinions on it.

pipeless416: I'm buying everything seperately.

pipeless416: I've seen that thread I saved the picture to give me reference how to setup the turbo and get info on what he did. The intercooler I'm still having trouble on.

[adawg89]

What company makes good full gasket set for 400ex? What about heavy duty clutch or a strong clutch to use on 400ex?

[Brauap]

Originally posted by Pipeless416
and now hes banned lol. survival of the mentally fittest. he lost. adawg, are you buying a kit, or everything separately?

Who is?

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Brauap
Who is?

foxhondarider but I think he was kidding.

Originally posted by Brauap
Who is?

FoxHondaRider

He made another useless thread looking for attention on graphics, so me and mulitple other people started making fun of him because he just wanted attention. So he just flipped out and cursed up a storm and pappy banned his arse once and for all.

Bout time. Maybe the forum will be a better place now.

Slow and Fox were made for each other.:p

adawg, cometic makes a pretty good gasket kit.

[adawg89]

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
FoxHondaRider

He made another useless thread looking for attention on graphics, so me and mulitple other people started making fun of him because he just wanted attention. So he just flipped out and cursed up a storm and pappy banned his arse once and for all.

Bout time. Maybe the forum will be a better place now.

Slow and Fox were made for each other.:p

adawg, cometic makes a pretty good gasket kit.

Thanks now what about a clutch that can handle a turbo?

Originally posted by adawg89
Thanks now what about a clutch that can handle a turbo?

I like Hinson myself but I don't want to mislead you because I haven't had to change mine yet and I dont know whats good or not. If I do go to replace it it'll be with hinson though

[Pipeless416]

if you have to get a new basket, i have found the Performance Engineering billet basket to be very high quality.. and for about $80 less than a Hinson basket.

[adawg89]

Ok I'll look around on the clutch hmm here's the list of the stuff I'm planning to get.

There parts numbers
1168330015
1095670005
1249830008
1168300014
1168290015
1030680099
1112930059
1009110024
1031510011
1167760002

Gt thunder head studs
http://www.gtthunder.com/TRX400EX.htm

Anything else I missed for the internal engine? I'm still looking on the low compression piston.

[adawg89]

What about a carberatur? Should I use a 450r carberatur or should I get edelbrock carb?

[Brauap]

Originally posted by adawg89
What about a carberatur? Should I use a 450r carberatur or should I get edelbrock carb?

If your putting an fing turbo in there.. I wouldn't go cheapy cheapy on everything. Go with the edelbrock. Made for the 400EX, less messing with it, better fit, ect.

Also, if I where you, I'd get a rekluse clutch... they seem to be reallly nice.. but its up to you.

btw, you can't have those RMATV pages up.. after 30 mins they expire :ermm:

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Brauap
If your putting an fing turbo in there.. I wouldn't go cheapy cheapy on everything. Go with the edelbrock. Made for the 400EX, less messing with it, better fit, ect.

Also, if I where you, I'd get a rekluse clutch... they seem to be reallly nice.. but its up to you.

btw, you can't have those RMATV pages up.. after 30 mins they expire :ermm:

Edit: I put the part numbers up. I don't think I'm going cheap on the stuff everything. when you say "fing" are you using the word as in the urban dictionary? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fing

or is short for a curse word and could be pronounced like this effing. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=effing

[Brauap]

Originally posted by adawg89
Edit: I put the part numbers up. I don't think I'm going cheap on the stuff everything. when you say "fing" are you using the word as in the urban dictionary? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fing

or is short for a curse word and could be pronounced like this effing. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=effing

its effing you dum bass! haha just playing

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Brauap
its effing you dum bass! haha just playing

HAHA :D

[dunatic]

Originally posted by adawg89
What company makes good full gasket set for 400ex? What about heavy duty clutch or a strong clutch to use on 400ex?

Call kevin at Gigot Racing, get one of his slingshot lock ups and all your worries are over.

otherwise, start with some CBR900 factory clutch plates and fresh Barnett springs. soak the plates over night in ATF before install. Burnish the steels slightly and it wil grab hard and hold well.

Im running 38hp NA, then a 20 shot of NOS

[adawg89]

Originally posted by dunatic
Call kevin at Gigot Racing, get one of his slingshot lock ups and all your worries are over.

otherwise, start with some CBR900 factory clutch plates and fresh Barnett springs. soak the plates over night in ATF before install. Burnish the steels slightly and it wil grab hard and hold well.

Im running 38hp NA, then a 20 shot of NOS

Any specific year on 900 for the clutch?

[dunatic]

mid 90's CBR900R

[adawg89]

Originally posted by dunatic
mid 90's CBR900R

Will a 1996 CBR900 clutch fit?

[dunatic]

fibers ------ YES

[adawg89]

Originally posted by dunatic
fibers ------ YES

fibers? What do you mean exactly?

[Pipeless416]

he means the fiber plates in a clutch. theres the fibers and steels.

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Pipeless416
he means the fiber plates in a clutch. theres the fibers and steels.

Gotcha :D

[dunatic]

the differences between the two plates are minimal but at the same time HUGE.

Take a look at the gap between the friction pads on your 400ex fibers. the CBR900 gap is half as much so theres more friction material touching the steels. The pads on the 900 fibers are smaller in width so they can be placed closer together.

In addition, the 900 fibers are .003" thicker, making the squish that much tighter against the springs. (kinda the same principal behind shimming up the springs to gain more seat pressure) and they will last a little longer due to more material.

When you burnish the steels, I would run them in a circular motion across some 400 grit wet sand paper. Your trying to take off the smooth machined surface and oily film off the plates. In extreme cases at the dunes in a last ditch effort in the middle of a long vacation (in other words....when all else fails) Ive ran them across some 80-100 grit dry paper lightly....they were never the same after that and didnt hold up by the end of the trip, but it worked none the less.

The next thing would be try a friction modifier. Something like "locker bite" that you add to your rear diff to make the diff plates bit harder in your rear end.

NOTE....................Being that you would adding it to the oil, the same oil thats running thu your whole motor, you dont want to add a lot.....probably just like 20cc or 2 caps full MAX. Usually you put a whole bottle in a rear end that holds 2-3 quarts of gear lube. It's gonna cause some extra bit in your tranny too. I would only do this if you are a long way from home, in the middle of a long vacation and you have no other bike to ride and you dont want to sit in camp for 4 more days while you buds are out having fun.

the ultimate would be to have Kevin Gigot just build you one of his Sling Shot lock ups. They fit under your stock cover (no mods are necessary) and after that you can run stock fibers, stock steels, stock springs and the clutch will never spin out again.

[adawg89]

you mean use 2 caps of oil to cover the clutch? or will I need get like 3 gallon bucket and let them soak in oil over night.

[dunatic]

no, im saying that you would add 2 caps of detroit lock up stick-em to your normal engine oil filled to the specified level. It's an additive that gives your oil some bite.

Id stay away from this idea only if you are so desperate it's your last choice

[adawg89]

Ok I gotcha :D

[adawg89]

Found a interesting website http://www.dieselevante.it/turbochargers.asp

Just put turbo charger you want to use like me I may use RHB5 so I put that in under family turbo and showed all the cars that use that turbo so I can go to a salvage yard look for one hopefully working one and get it for cheap :D

Note: if you are gonna get all bent out of shape because of this then :rolleyes:

[adawg89]

I decided to use the RHB5 turbo and I found a Mazda MX6 has the RHB5 turbo and has a inter cooler I was thinking of using inter cooler from Mazda and put it on 400 here's a pictures I found.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f46/Riddle_Rob/IMG_3346Large.jpg

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f46/Riddle_Rob/IMG_3347Large.jpg

I got some paper and made the dimensions of it and put it on the 400 to see how would fit fits ok seems I may have modify it a little bit I may have to cut lines across the plastic for airflow to top part of the intercooler.

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

thi is the one im going to use its from a saab


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[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

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[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

my bad for^^^^ i just leard how to post pic


ok in my computer you could see it better its a gt-17 lets se if bigger



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and that going here........


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[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

one more


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[adawg89]

Nice some of pics showed up two I'll look up GT 17 by any chance can you take a comparison pic? Keep me updated too :D

Are you also planning to stick it where there is the exhaust manifold is at? between the engine and oil?

[adawg89]

Instead of CRF 450r chain should I use GT thunder heavy duty cam chain?

[Pipeless416]

most "HD" chains are just crf chains :)

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Pipeless416
most "HD" chains are just crf chains :)

Ok thanks :D

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

yes between te manifold an the oil tank i fanally took the manifold out today so ill be posting more pictures .. did that mazda intercooler fits?? ill like to see how thats coming b/c i dont have any idea of wich intercooler to put on.

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

what size is the stock pipe in the manifold? dont have nothing to measure it.

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
yes between te manifold an the oil tank i fanally took the manifold out today so ill be posting more pictures .. did that mazda intercooler fits?? ill like to see how thats coming b/c i dont have any idea of wich intercooler to put on.

Ah I see ok. The intercooler I found those are picture I found I did not take them myself.

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

ooo ok

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
ooo ok

I may have my turbo under my seat and remove air box since there is a lot of room under there.

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

so im guessing you are no going to put an intercooler??? and how are u thinking to hook up the oil lines?

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
so im guessing you are no going to put an intercooler??? and how are u thinking to hook up the oil lines? I'm
I'm still gonna put a intercooler I'm looking at snowmobile intercoolers the oil lines I'm still thinking on that. You mean oil lines for oil cooling the turbo? does the GT12 have internal waste gate?

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

not only cooling but lubricating it. dont know about the gt12 but the gt7 got internal wastegate. your going to have long pipes on that atv...

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
not only cooling but lubricating it. dont know about the gt12 but the gt7 got internal wastegate. your going to have long pipes on that atv...

I forgot you have GT17 right? I'll do some googling.

Edit: I found a picture ok the left side is the GT17 I assume Well I think the brass round thing is we're you hook oil line to lubricate the bearings inside or it's the fitting right above the turbine (the fins that spin)
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_svfm6RzuvgE/SAVcI8q2ejI/AAAAAAAAADo/jpXREQb1iYQ/IMG_0222.JPG

If you somehow can't see the pic here's a link to it. http://lh3.ggpht.com/_svfm6RzuvgE/SAVcI8q2ejI/AAAAAAAAADo/jpXREQb1iYQ/IMG_0222.JPG

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

cant see the picture

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
cant see the picture

Oops ok I uploaded it ok I saw a turbo banshee video on you tube and saw this small inter cooler the kind I was look for it seemed like and the guy said the inter cooler came off a 300GT VR4 and that is the same thing a friend of mine told me.

Ithink this is the side mount intercooler from 3000gt VR4
http://www.supercar-engineering.com/rubberducky/3S/Mods/TT/HKSIC/DSC00121.jpg

Yep here's the intercooler again the oem on the left (the one that comes from the factory) then the aftermarket one (ill be looking for a oem or aftermarket which ever is cheaper.)
http://www.supercar-engineering.com/rubberducky/3S/Mods/TT/HKSIC/DSC00135.jpg

you can also go to this link for more pictures http://www.supercar-engineering.com/rubberducky/3S/Mods/TT/HKSIC/

[adawg89]

I maybe getting a free intercooler from a friend :D

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

what size ?? where did he go it from??

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
what size ?? where did he go it from??

the 3000gt inter cooler, the pics I showed on the other page or this one and links off of his old 3000gt one of his friends got jealous and spray paint all over his car and smashed the windows. She he part it out and I may get the intercooler off of it the stock intercooler.

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

i belive the 3000 gt got two intercooloers am i rigth?

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
i belive the 3000 gt got two intercooloers am i rigth?

Yes for the twin turbo :D

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

sell me one?!?!?! i aint got one yet and saw them on ebay. they look theyll fit perfect

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
sell me one?!?!?! i aint got one yet and saw them on ebay. they look theyll fit perfect

He only has one :( I am planning to go to a junkyard if decides to sell it If I am able to get two I'll send you one cheap. If I we're you I would check your local salvage yards and craigslist and check under dodge stealth too.

Originally posted by adawg89
I don't think I would want lower compression especially when I'm gonna turbo.

:rolleyes:

[adawg89]

Originally posted by Honda or DI3
:rolleyes:

I know now that I need lower compression.

[adawg89]

I just thought of something. Since we can put a 450r carb on our 400ex why not put a edelbrock 450r carb on the 400ex? Any benefits if I do that?

[dunatic]

if what you want to do is put on a bigger carb to flow more juice, why not just go to a lectron or CPC carb ?

I have on my saber bike a CPC billet 48mm (tall) x 58mm (wide) - oval port, but they make smaller.

check out http://www.cpcracing.com/site/256083/page/190735

[adawg89]

Originally posted by dunatic
if what you want to do is put on a bigger carb to flow more juice, why not just go to a lectron or CPC carb ?

I have on my saber bike a CPC billet 48mm (tall) x 58mm (wide) - oval port, but they make smaller.

check out http://www.cpcracing.com/site/256083/page/190735

Seems little high price:(

[dunatic]

If you want the best, it costs MONEY.

I just dont understand what your attempting to accomplish with the carb change ?

lectrons are a lot cheaper. check out packard racing

[adawg89]

Originally posted by dunatic
If you want the best, it costs MONEY.

I just dont understand what your attempting to accomplish with the carb change ?

lectrons are a lot cheaper. check out packard racing

I know it cost money :eek2: lol I didn't say I wasn't gonna buy it just said it was little high in price and gonna break the bank lol.

Well I thought it was necessary to change to a bigger carb if putting a turbo on it.

[dunatic]

thats why I suggested the two different carbs. you can find 40-50mm lectrons pretty cheap if you look around.

the CPC is the top of the line. It's 100% externally adjusted. So easy thats for sure. Im into mine right at $1k

[adawg89]

Originally posted by dunatic
thats why I suggested the two different carbs. you can find 40-50mm lectrons pretty cheap if you look around.

the CPC is the top of the line. It's 100% externally adjusted. So easy thats for sure. Im into mine right at $1k

I see now thanks!

[dunatic]

so when you gonna start bolting this stuff on ? you dont need a carb to do the turbo and intercooler. In fact you can use your stock one for now

[adawg89]

Originally posted by dunatic
so when you gonna start bolting this stuff on ? you dont need a carb to do the turbo and intercooler. In fact you can use your stock one for now

Once I can find a job (2009 really hard:( ) I'm hoping to be able to work at homeland security I mean a contractor of homeland security (1200 dollars every two weeks AFTER taxes)

[dunatic]

so your just in the planning state then ?

[adawg89]

Originally posted by dunatic
so your just in the planning state then ?

Yes planning ahead and still doing research want this to be as reliable and stable I can get it.

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

well mine is under contruction im still doing the manifold and my next step is to see where im i going to relocate my oil tank b/c the turbo is taking all that space then after that i got to do a box where the air filte is right now that got to be sealed (not that big of a deal) and after all that i got to try to figure out the jetting for the carb ... so im no thinking of any of the other stuff until i see it start up....

did u got that intercooler any idea of what your manifoldis going to look like?

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
well mine is under contruction im still doing the manifold and my next step is to see where im i going to relocate my oil tank b/c the turbo is taking all that space then after that i got to do a box where the air filte is right now that got to be sealed (not that big of a deal) and after all that i got to try to figure out the jetting for the carb ... so im no thinking of any of the other stuff until i see it start up....

did u got that intercooler any idea of what your manifoldis going to look like?

Actually you know the clamp that is behind the fender holding the exhaust well I'm gonna take that off and have the turbo under the seat like this

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1584/400ext5vf8.jpg

[rob_990]

thats gonna be awesome!

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

dont like those oil lines all over the place

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

like it better like this

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

my bad like this



http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x47/jorgemen15/2.jpg

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
my bad like this



http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x47/jorgemen15/2.jpg

Mine won't be like in that picture that is not mine. mine will be cleaner than that.

[YELLOW_TRX400EX]

got updates my computer broke and got me a new one be posting pics very soon!!!

[adawg89]

Originally posted by YELLOW_TRX400EX
got updates my computer broke and got me a new one be posting pics very soon!!!

Cool man but unfortunately I have to sell my 400ex right now :( :( :( money is getting tight right now. I should get another one I don't know when but I will I would love to see your progress though.