Suzuki LT 500 Quadzilla VS. 250 dirt bike

[heavy_d]

could a lt 500 quadracer beat any 250 dirt bike in a short or long distance race?

[YZROOSTINYA]

no

[Z-King]

no

[CHAR250R]

It's possible, but doubtful. Too many factors to add in, such as terrain, rider, weather, the list goes on forever........

[Juggalo]

250 dirtbikes only top out at around 74 or so. they are geared for the mx track. a zilla could take a bike i believe.

[roostin_dale]

depends on terrain and riders skill

uh the bike will pull so many lengths that by the time the zilla catches up it will be over

[Bean]

see, i think many people over estimate bikes, 250's are not blazing fast like they are cracked up to be, they only take off much faster, and this is talkin stock though

[flyin#5]

Originally posted by Juggalo
250 dirtbikes only top out at around 74 or so. they are geared for the mx track. a zilla could take a bike i believe.

thats exactly what i thought when i saw this post!

[Chef]

I think a Zilla could take a 250 bike in a 300 foot drag race. My Banshee did, why couldnt a zilla?

look at the power to weight oh yeah u guys ever ride a cr 500? or a cr 250 compare them to quadzilla or a 250r, the 250r and q zilla are nothing compared to them

[killed300ex]

anyone know the stock hp and top speed on a quadzilla im talking stock no mods
killed

[razer]

on a difficult trail or a very sandy type trail, I give the quad the bid. I don't care what type of quad either, except maybe the kid-type ones. I have a 250CR and my buddy rides a 400EX and he can whip me on the trails we ride, especially when it's heavy sand. I'm not a good enough rider to be able to keep up with him, especially when I'm sliding all over the place or trying to just keep on the trail without flying off into a cactus or over the cliff. He simply turns the bars and gives it gas.

So I vote for the quad unless the bike is piloted by a really fast rider, like Mcgrath or RC.

:huh umm....u ever watch a b level xc racer on quad then a bike....same for mx.... the bike guys are alot faster

oh yeah i think the zilla has about 47 hp some where in the 42-48 range the cr 500 has 55-60 i think

top speed is about 78-83

my rm 167 topped out about 81, stock 125 is close to 72-73 aboutt he same for the 250 but thier alot quicker getting there, the average 250 has 42 hp stock

[Chef]

Originally posted by freeride132
:huh umm....u ever watch a b level xc racer on quad then a bike....same for mx.... the bike guys are alot faster

oh yeah i think the zilla has about 47 hp some where in the 42-48 range the cr 500 has 55-60 i think

You seem to have forgotten the original question. He asked if a Zilla is faster than a 250 Bike. Not a CR500, and not in an MX race. Yes, the Zilla is faster than the bike in a straight line.

yeah top speed

not acceleration tho

[Bean]

lol

a long enough dragrace, ACC wont mean anything really

yeah most drag races the bike will accel a head and the race willl be over once the zilla gets goin thats my point, in a long drag the zilla will win unless the bikes gearing isnt stock

[Mitch400EX]

Quad would win in sand or other soft surface. Bikes may have better power to weight, but they don't have nearly the stability or floatation of a quad. The pro quads were always faster then the pro bikes at my local track...

[razer]

MX tracks are somewhat wide and have tacky dirt, the trails I like to ride are sharp, rutted, hard packed, often have a fine layer of sand that makes it slippery on the back tire, and wind around mountains. I give the advantage to the quad. Same with when the trails have heavy sand like river washes. It's just very hard to control the bike, but the quad can handle it quite easily.

Now, give me tacky or loamy dirt (no more sand), a little bit wider trail, and jumps, and I will probably be able beat my friend. But out here you don't get loamy black dirt or even tacky sand unless it has just rained. And it doesn't rain much in Arizona.

So, I give the quad the advantage, at least for the terrain I ride. I know I'm faster on one and I just started riding it.

[Chef]

Originally posted by freeride132
yeah top speed

not acceleration tho

Have you ever been on a Zilla? Or even been within 100 feet of one? They arent a quad to be underestimated, and I will leave it at that.

actually ive seen them in action and up close,

#1 thier the 2nd bigges pos ever built the quadsport 230s takes 1st
#2 there highly overated ride a cr 500 and u can see what a 500 should be
#3 thier poor handling makes them feel alot faster than they are


thats what i know about them, i know thier only good for dunes and dragging i saw one try to mx...what a joke:rolleyes:

[mx517]

Originally posted by killed300ex
anyone know the stock hp and top speed on a quadzilla im talking stock no mods
killed


I clocked my cousins zilla in my truck and he was doing b/w 85 to 90 mph completely topped out revving as high as it goes.

[Juggalo]

but you have never rode one so you have no room to talk. don't go by what you hear. you have no clue what you are talking about. sure the motor has a weak point but its easily fixed (unless you have the 87 model). after that they aren't bad at all. and they don't handle bad at all and they have really nice suspension for a stock quad too. just because you saw some jackass try to mx one and he sucked doesn't mean that zillas suck.

haha, he rolled a double and broke the swingarm, it was hilarious, id never bring a quad if it wasnt gonna make it around the track

[Chef]

Do you know why a CR500 is faster than an LT500? BECAUSE ITS A BIKE. Less weight=Faster. CR500=Made it past 1990, and that helps alot. The 80's CR500's werent nearly what the CR500's of 98 and 99 were. Some of them were even Air Cooled, what kinda BS is that? An air cooled 500cc two stroke. And now you are talking about weak swingarms? Go look between the rear tires of your 400 if you want weak.

[raptor_02]

I've only seen one quadzilla in action and it was at a local mx track. It was lined up with a couple of modded banshees and a couple of modded R's. The holeshot was hilarious, the zilla easily smoked the BANSHEE and the R's. There wikid fast. I'd still say a bike could get one on take off but it wouldn't be by no more then a 1 or 2 quad lenghts then the zilla would probaly start pullin on the bike and eventually pass. But I personally don't like them, but as far as power goes there unreal! I think they have around 50hp stock. Not sure though.

a 86 cr 500......there the craziest bike out there i gurantee it would smoke the zilla if it was in R frame

oh yeah the quadzilla frames and swingarm are alot weaker than the 400ex, god, u should relax i dont see a quadzilla in yer sig

[Pro400EXC]

Dang FreeRide you seem to be pissin quite a few ppl off on here.....


Also a 125 toppin out at 72+mph stock?How can that be when a WR250F tops out at about 65mph(and last time i checked the 250f's have more top end than a 125 2stk)and a 250 2stk top's out at about 74mph avg.. The CRF,426F,and Katoom 520 SX (the 4spd model) tops out at about 80mph..those 4stk just got more top-end thats all there is too it..

The only thing bikes have on quads is acceleration (in a drag race) cause unless it's not a Long drag or top-speed drag,the quad should win,unless the dude on the bike wants a new top-end,cause there not made to be sat there and held pinned for long time.......

Also a good quad rider can hold his own to a bike on a mx or xc track..I got bro's who race A250, AA and A Open that race Hair Scrambles,cand I'm not too far behind when we go out and practice.....

Also how is a 86 CR500 better than a 99 CR500? And anyways the CR500 isn't a top-speed hauler anhyways..its a Open MX bike,them desert CR500 have diff tranny's than your avg CR500...and if we wanna talk about Top Speed Issue's the Husenburg 650 and XR650 are king's hands down,cause with the Burg your lookin at 95mph+ stock,and w/ a few minor mods on the XR650R (alum frame liquid cooled one) your lookin at 100+mph while your Presion's CR500 is about at 85mph.....

[lil400exman]

and another factor isthe fact that quads are designed to be reliable and desigened to go way out there and bring you back where cr250's cr500's and crap are made to be driven around a track all day without having to worry about running out of gas or crap dirtbike motors as a fact dont last as long as quads why dont you see alot of 88 cr250's around? casue they werent made as well as quad engines man there made to be run super high revs and be rebuilt the next month quads no................and bringin a cr500 into this man xr that is just stupid and nevermind i dont wanna get banned but i bet you run against alot of cr500's with a xr50 super thumper:rolleyes: :eek: pj

[heavy_d]

hey freeride i wasn't asking if a 500 quad could beat a 500 dirt bike, no *****, how much does a cr500 weigh, the zilla is a mammoth 400lbs

[Pro400EXC]

Originally posted by lil400exman
................and bringin a cr500 into this man xr that is just stupid and nevermind i dont wanna get banned but i bet you run against alot of cr500's with a xr50 super thumper:rolleyes: :eek: pj

hey Lil,were you talkin about me when I was talkin about the Xr's or you talkin bout Freeride's awsome cool XR50?

[heavy_d]

bring on a dirtbike now hehe:D no contest

88 cr 250s are still around u just gotta look for them, there not as wanted as a 250r i dont know which takes more abuse, prob the cr 250 so of course it wont stand up

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Pro400EXC
hey Lil,were you talkin about me when I was talkin about the Xr's or you talkin bout Freeride's awsome cool XR50?

I think hes talking about Freeride.


Originally posted by pro400exc
Dang FreeRide you seem to be pissin quite a few ppl off on here.....


Also a 125 toppin out at 72+mph stock?How can that be when a WR250F tops out at about 65mph(and last time i checked the 250f's have more top end than a 125 2stk)and a 250 2stk top's out at about 74mph avg.. The CRF,426F,and Katoom 520 SX (the 4spd model) tops out at about 80mph..those 4stk just got more top-end thats all there is too it..

The only thing bikes have on quads is acceleration (in a drag race) cause unless it's not a Long drag or top-speed drag,the quad should win,unless the dude on the bike wants a new top-end,cause there not made to be sat there and held pinned for long time.......

Also a good quad rider can hold his own to a bike on a mx or xc track..I got bro's who race A250, AA and A Open that race Hair Scrambles,cand I'm not too far behind when we go out and practice.....

Also how is a 86 CR500 better than a 99 CR500? And anyways the CR500 isn't a top-speed hauler anhyways..its a Open MX bike,them desert CR500 have diff tranny's than your avg CR500...and if we wanna talk about Top Speed Issue's the Husenburg 650 and XR650 are king's hands down,cause with the Burg your lookin at 95mph+ stock,and w/ a few minor mods on the XR650R (alum frame liquid cooled one) your lookin at 100+mph while your Presion's CR500 is about at 85mph.....

^ Probably the most useful information in this thread so far.

this thread is ancient:macho

[4wheelboy]

beleive it or not down in atco at VI pit i seen a stock banshee have its ARse handed to him by a very old worked Kx 80 :eek: in a drag in sand. :eek: like i sed i was there u can believe wut u want

[RuffRyder400ex]

i think a zila