The Black Knight Build

[etondaddy]

Well it's that time of year again......:devil: the New Black Knight mock up has begun .......

This year the frame is going to Super Mirror Orange w/metalic clear, the a-arms and swing-arm Four Play blue, The stem Four play chrome and black plastics with black wheels.......and no graphics ( sorry Ernie...lol). That's how it wants it and that's how he's getting it.

Things are moving right along this year…..not like last year wow what a disaster……but anyway that’s all behind us now. I’m waiting on a few things and it looks like by the end of January this bad boy will be done. I’ve made two appointments to get the frame steel shot blasted and had to cancel due to rain……it could have been snow ….we’ve been lucky.

So far I need to thank Tom @ Four Play, John @ Elka, Eric @ Elite, Kyle @ Cernic’s, it’s so cool to deal with people that care enough to call you back and help you out. Thanks again……it’s just begun and I’m sure you’ll be with me through out the build and after.

Your turns coming Mr. McVay……….. As soon as I get the frame blasted I’ll be up.

Now my favorite part........pics


Mike Kozura

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[wvspeedfreak]

Looks like it's gonna be sweet :macho

[T@AFP]

SNAP! that looks awesome.
Real sharp looking.
I didn't see any grease sumdges on that frame. Did you grease the A arm pivot points?
I'm starting on my daughters bike tonight. It's a hot pink frame. I've got grease smudges everywhere. Hate that part.

Nice job guys.

Keep us updated.

[etondaddy]

No not for mock up....... I Can't wait to get the frame powdercoated orange and start building...... soon....very soon.

Thanks Tom the bar clamp came just when you said it would..:devil:


Mike Kozura

[Jersey450R]

why are you rebuilding it? didnt you just build it?!

[rookiewrench]

I am just curious as to why you are going with the elka over the fox that you had last year and I thought that last year you had DC a arms and swingarm. Did you run into trouble with them last year?

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by Jersey450R
why are you rebuilding it? didnt you just build it?!

Now what the h*ll would I do all winter with nothing to build..............:devil:


Mike Kozura

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by rookiewrench
I am just curious as to why you are going with the elka over the fox that you had last year and I thought that last year you had DC a arms and swingarm. Did you run into trouble with them last year?

Lets just say we decided to go a different route this year........ Fox makes a great shock and Mark was very good to us.




Mike Kozura

[fasttimes]

Oh ok I see how it is you thank all the guys that are truly helpful but what am I chop liver? I am here for moral support, I think that should count for something. LOL

Love always,
Your student
Randy

Oh yeah Kyle's quad is looking awesome!

[Zach#21]

Mike,
Where are your upper motor mounts? Do you not run them.

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by Zach#21
Mike,
Where are your upper motor mounts? Do you not run them.
There in the bolt bucket with the bolt still in them.......:huh that's first on Charlie McVay's list once I get the frame blasted and up to him.

Mike Kozura

[Quadforce]

looks great... something to be proud of for sure.

[Logan #34's Dad]

WOW Big Mike, That is going to be cool!! You know your going to end up with a whole bunch of trx parts like you once had eton parts. I always thought the FourPlay trx stuff looked awesome. The ground clearence in the front is awesome. GNCC guys should all be running these IMO.

[etondaddy]

Thanks Quadforce.......



Yea Rock he's really looking forward to the new suspension........ he keeps saying he can't wait for the whoops and the corners this year........ if nothing else the 15" rear shock looks impressive.....:devil:

I'm tired of beating up the poor kid....... when it's done it's going to someone and get set up right......shocks and all. I seen how Mccoy Shine's Honda rides and that's how I want his...... They took there's to McNett Performance and had it set up I think that's what we're going to do.....I'm going to call the dude today.


Mike Kozura

[flht_db]

I think this is the only one in the GNCC last year. He ran local and a few GNCC's. Ground clearance is great but have to watch those tight spots.

[etondaddy]

We haven't done sh*t on the quad........supposed to get the frame steel shoted this week but it looks like rain again....

We got the cold air return on the furnace done last night...... I got a tin knocker to make me a plenum we should get it on tonight.

We got heat !!!!!!!!!

I just noticed.....Kyle doesn't have his safety classes on........... that's a no no..... I'm going to have to write him up for that.


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[ww228king]

Quote::::We got the cold air return on the furnace done last night......




WE!!!! Looks like you took pics....But it looks like you were a good coach....lol Start them out young my friend, that is the way to go. Looks good.

[etondaddy]

You sound like Kyle........." we.......we.......what's this we stuff.....you got a mouse in your pocket or what.


He's my little gear head......and he loves tools......sweet.


We......I mean he touched the quad tonight put on the CRF450 chain guide and the 400EX chain slide......well almost that involved digging up two bolts......so you see how far that went.


But we and I mean we..... finished the furnace accept for patching around the vent.


Mike Kozura

All sh*t........ hey I forgot about the Rockgarden.........

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[ww228king]

no hurry ... I will be sending the money next Thursday morning... Gotta send someone else a payment too the same day...like I said before... this dang forum is a money racket I tell ya...lol

[etondaddy]

I'll pack it up this weekend and see what the shippings going to be and get you a total. Cool beans.


Mike Kozura

[ww228king]

yep..that will work... you can send me an invoice on paypal

[etondaddy]

Now that's even cooler beans.......... goodnight man I got to get up at 5am est.


Mike Kozura

[etondaddy]

Well the frame's at the steel shot dude getting last years pc off. The bearing carrier came today from Elite Performance ( Eric Lester) I bought all the brake stuff off Eric used and at first had bought a used 300ex carrier but he said the two that he got in were chewed up so he got me a new one for used price.....can't beat that thanks Eric..... and the pc from Columbia came in today.....man I can't wait to start spraying that orange on...... lookin at the pics you know that bracket will have pc on it.....:devil:


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[jcp]

Mike,

Is your old suspension availble for sale? Looking for a deal on some black wheels also.

[etondaddy]

All I have left is the swing-arm...... DC round housing $225.00 shipped (USA only). It takes a DRR axle and DRR hubs.

I have the srocket hub and three sprockets from Rebel. 46,48,50....... $75.00 shipped.

And I have the wheel hubs........ 45.00 shipped.

No black wheels

Thats over $1000.00 worth of stuff new......



Mike Kozura

[jcp]

Thanks, was hoping maybe you had the shocks left over. Intresting seeing you swith from the Fox's as I have always heard they were the best.

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by jcp
Thanks, was hoping maybe you had the shocks left over. Intresting seeing you swith from the Fox's as I have always heard they were the best.

Well after talking to real shock people.....a shock is a shock no matter the manufacture they all do the same thing.Good shocks are the ones that are set up right.......no shocks from no manufacturer out of the box are perfect for the rider and quad.

Fox is a great shock.....but we went back to John at Elka where we were two years ago. I like the idea of the spring...... the air changes and leaks.......

When we're done it's going to Nate McNett @ McNett performance and getting set up right.


Mike Kozura

[wykyd450R]

Your message box is full...I need to reply to your messages. Delete your outbox and you will be good to go. Thanks.

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by wykyd450R
Your message box is full...I need to reply to your messages. Delete your outbox and you will be good to go. Thanks.

Done deal.......


Mike Kozura

[Bolinracing]

Hey Mike,
How is the build going. I love your posts and step by step pictures.

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by Bolinracing
Hey Mike,
How is the build going. I love your posts and step by step pictures.
Well it's slowed down a bit. I just got the frame back from getting blasted yesterday. Now the frame has to go to the welder and get the upper motor mounts fixed and some other welding done and he can't take it until the first part of next week. Wheels and tires should be here any day now. Then all I'll need is sprockets and exhaust and I'll be ready to put it all together. I'm hoping to be done by March 1st. More pics coming soon.

Mike Kozura

[Bolinracing]

wow, I just ran across a post on atv scene where you had this quad up for sale? If you don't mind me asking, what was up with that? How old is your son? Were you going to go to the 300 class?

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by Bolinracing
wow, I just ran across a post on atv scene where you had this quad up for sale? If you don't mind me asking, what was up with that? How old is your son? Were you going to go to the 300 class?
Yea that's it....Kyle's buddy Ricky is moving up and we thought about it. I put it out there and got no bits on it so looks like we're going to run it again. His birthday's in January (he was thirteen) but he was twelve the first of the year so he could run both....he has a great race birthday.


Mike Kozura

[etondaddy]

We got the rear wheels and tires in the other day.....they ordered the wrong front wheels.....:huh I told them black....but owell....they had to reorder them in black. Kyle's going to be my little man in black...........

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[quadrider1299]

Lookin good mike, remember this old school machine? lol

[etondaddy]

Thanks Rooster...........How could I forget. You sure were fun to watch on that thing. I think your just like Kyle...that will always be your favorite quad, just like Kyle's 90 E-Ton. You guys won a lot of races on those things. This is still my favorite pic of you on the Kasea. Man I miss them days....they sure were fun.

Mike Kozura

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[quadrider1299]

Ya mike, you hit the nail on the head, that was my favorite quad. But anyways we have all the parts off of my 450 and are ready to bring them down if you want us to.

[etondaddy]

What colors do we need I'm going to have to get the powder ordered.


Mike Kozura

[quadrider1299]

Pm sent

[GOODMAN411]

Whats the latest?

[etondaddy]

The frame and motor are still at McVay's Charlie's been busy. But now we got the 300 and I'm not looking for us to run the 125 this year...... it may be for sale.......or part......it's already apart.



Mike Kozura

[Logan #34's Dad]

Mike, It's time for a name change. Sounds like your a diehard Honda man now. Hondaddy is the one. Don't worry we'll still love you and know who you are. :devil:

[etondaddy]

Well it looks like the Black Knight build lives........it's been a little over a half a year but here we go just starting to find all the parts and ordering what we don't have......

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[wolfpack91]

What is the right side case from? CRF50 or modded stock case? What is the kick start off of?

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by wolfpack91
What is the right side case from? CRF50 or modded stock case? What is the kick start off of?
The case is modded stock. The kick starter from what I understand has parts from a couple different applications and some special machined parts.........you'd have to call Charlie McVay to be sure. He showed me and told me how he does it but I really don't remember. Did you find a quad yet....?? we're going to build this cash cow and go from there...keep...sell... no clue right now.


Mike Kozura

[wolfpack91]

Yep we got one. It's been getting fixed since we got it, but we do own one.

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by wolfpack91
Yep we got one. It's been getting fixed since we got it, but we do own one.
Good deal.........


Mike Kozura

[etondaddy]

Well we got a good day in today got it coated and started bolting stuff to it. I'm in the market for a 48, 49 or a 50 rear sprocket for a 300ex / 400ex / 250r USED the money tree died but if I have to I'll call Rebel and get a new one.......ouch. It's orange with metalic clear.......but I went over boord on the metlic and you can feel it it's a little rough in spots I was going to clear over the whole thing with regular clear and smooth it all out.......but Kyle said I was nutts it was fine......and lets start bolting stuff to it.......lol


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[mcatvme]

You should have went with the 450r rear brake setup...much better stopping power and a much smaller brake rotor..Helps a ton with ground clearence also..

[etondaddy]

Thanks.....I'll have to start lookin for one. Not even sure what that's off of 400ex.....maybe.



Mike Kozura

[wvspeedfreak]

Nice frame color :D

[born2ride14]

I know mcvay built your motor but i have one question. Those 2 little banjo fittings, where did they come from? i have been looking for some 8mm banjo fittings with a barbed end on it just like those and cant find ANY, so if you can help me out mike that would be great

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by wvspeedfreak
Nice frame color :D
Thanks man.....how've you been...?? maybe we can get together at Breezewood this fall. It's the wildest think I've done yet it looks so smooth but it's not.....lol you can feal the metalic in places....it's wild can't wait to see it in the sun.



Mike Kozura

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by 300maniac
I know mcvay built your motor but i have one question. Those 2 little banjo fittings, where did they come from? i have been looking for some 8mm banjo fittings with a barbed end on it just like those and cant find ANY, so if you can help me out mike that would be great
I have no clue I'll try to text Charlie but he left Tuesday to play a gig some were........ He makes what’s called a McVay Bender for guitars for some big country music stars and go’s out on the road and plays. He won't be back until next week.



Mike Kozura

[etondaddy]

OK got the front end on tonight..... we're 48" in the rear and 47 1/2 in the front.......we should get the 1/2 back and more once it's on the ground. I found all the sprockets I needed from Joe Espey the 48 and 50 were new and the 49 was used....... thanks Joe....... Good luck at Loretta's Joe Dogg. Just caught them before they left.....so I got 10 lb bacon to..... it's getting there.


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[wvspeedfreak]

Originally posted by etondaddy
Thanks man.....how've you been...?? maybe we can get together at Breezewood this fall. It's the wildest think I've done yet it looks so smooth but it's not.....lol you can feal the metalic in places....it's wild can't wait to see it in the sun.



Mike Kozura

Doing good Mike!I just had Austins Raptor frame done that same color :p

[etondaddy]

I don’t know why but I felt the need to share this with my fellow bacon lovers out there…….if you were wondering what 10 lb of thick cut bacon from Espey’s Meat Market looked like well here yea go……5 lb reg. and 5 lb peppered. One of the things I really love in this world is good bacon……..lol.


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[boomer43]

what size is the front & rear tire and also what model of maxxis. how do they work

[etondaddy]

The fronts are Cross Razr 19x6x10. And the rear are E-Ton stock 18x9x8. There's no model name on the rears.....I got them from a E-Ton dealer. Not sure how they work but it's what Kyle wanted.....them kids all talk at the track and Kyle thinks they'll be great.


Mike Kozura

[nordic quad]

The rear tires look like the Maxxis M940 and the work really well for MX we use them on our Apexes.By the way Mike the black knight looks almost as good as that bacon sandwitch:D

[boomer43]

Originally posted by etondaddy
The fronts are Cross Razr 19x6x10. And the rear are E-Ton stock 18x9x8. There's no model name on the rears.....I got them from a E-Ton dealer. Not sure how they work but it's what Kyle wanted.....them kids all talk at the track and Kyle thinks they'll be great.


Mike Kozura

Thank you

[wvspeedfreak]

MMMMMMMMMMMM.....Bacon!!

[bnesbitt2]

Hi Mike,the black knight looks great,Ben just wrapped up our series championship with your white knite stuff that suspension was flawless all season and the pipe sounded awesome he won 14 races so far with 5 to go I tried to attach a pic but not sure if it worked as Ive never done it before anyway thanks again for the stuff we got a lot of compliments on his quad Ben Nesbitt.

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by nordic quad
By the way Mike the black knight looks almost as good as that bacon sandwitch:D
Thanks......are you still running the Elka's...??


Mike Kozura

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by bnesbitt2
Hi Mike,the black knight looks great,Ben just wrapped up our series championship with your white knite stuff that suspension was flawless all season and the pipe sounded awesome he won 14 races so far with 5 to go I tried to attach a pic but not sure if it worked as Ive never done it before anyway thanks again for the stuff we got a lot of compliments on his quad Ben Nesbitt.
Thanks..... the new White Knight looks great also. Tell Ben great job. Me and Kyle was just talking yesterday about the nicest lookin quad we ever did I think it's the White Knight....he thinks it's going to be the new Black Knight......


Mike Kozura

[nordic quad]

Originally posted by etondaddy
Thanks......are you still running the Elka's...??


Mike Kozura

Yes Mike Still running the Elkas they have been moved back and forth from the 70 and the 100cc,just had them seviced so they shold be on for the rest of the season,but i must say that your new suspention combo looks like the real deal.

Stein A

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by nordic quad
Yes Mike Still running the Elkas they have been moved back and forth from the 70 and the 100cc,just had them seviced so they shold be on for the rest of the season,but i must say that your new suspention combo looks like the real deal.

Stein A
Yea we hope it rides as good as it looks.


Mike Kozura

[nordic quad]

Not bacon but still a funny comercial:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmZ0-svxpyc&NR=1

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by nordic quad
Not bacon but still a funny comercial:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmZ0-svxpyc&NR=1
That's funny..........


Mike Kozura

[etondaddy]

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[etondaddy]

OK last time.....you know me and pics...lol. Looks like it's done, not sure about painting the tank piece..???? what do you guys think. He wants nothing on it.....just the way it sits. All we need are some small cotter pins for the tie-rods and a spring for the exhaust. Looks like we're going to run it Friday night at the Wetmoreland County Fairgrounds at the fair. He always liked running fair night....... you got all the one night wounders and he thinks he's Doug Gust......lol.


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[T@AFP]

WOW Mike the bike looks sick!
I think you'll be happy with the way it rides.
We have quite a few of those set ups out there and haven't had any complaints. Except for the parents wishing their bike felt that good.
I got your messages but we've been at Lorrettas for a week. We just got back last night.
I think I have a line on a new motor for you.
I will be in touch.

Thanks,
Tom

[etondaddy]

Tom the only thing a can compare the suspension to is a air ride seat in a big truck……wow. Can we make his 300ex do that…..???. Let me know on the motor, no hurry. I need some money tree fertilizer……it don’t seem to be growing that great.




Mike Kozura

[Midnight Ninja]

Ya see.....

There's SICK, and then there's WICKED

But that thing is just WICKED-SICK and it's even wrong, but in a right way....and it don't get no righter!! :D :D :D

Enjoy!!!!

[mcstore]

What exhaust do you have on it?

[mcatvme]

Originally posted by mcstore
What exhaust do you have on it?

I believe Its a CHP pipe...Best pipe on the market for the big bore motors

[etondaddy]

Originally posted by mcatvme
I believe Its a CHP pipe...Best pipe on the market for the big bore motors
Yep....CHP I got it through Scott Cain.


Mike Kozura

[boomer43]

what gearing are you running

[etondaddy]

14/48,49,50 depending on the track.



Mike Kozura

[boomer43]

Thank you