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dbc112
12-09-2008, 08:51 AM
I am trying to arrange a test ride and review on the new hyosung ATV. I personally am not seasoned enough to give a good review. Maybe some of you who have many years could help out.


here is what I am thinking..

1. Test ride at one of the parks within Pennsylvania
2. The "chosen one" should have good writing skills for review
3. Make reccomendations on suspension
4. At the track/trail , make suspension changes and re-review


How can I get this started? Who should I contact on exriders?


I also need to get a dealership on board, I have been working with mpg motors who has been selling at types of hyosung bikes.

Chime in, what do you think?

907Rider
12-09-2008, 11:50 AM
This sounds great! I would realy like to see a real world test of these quads.

jrspawn
12-09-2008, 02:00 PM
Id be willing to put some seat time on it;)

Thank you
Justin

IOWAracer
12-09-2008, 02:24 PM
Same here I would be willing to but my 6 years of XC racing to the test on one of there bikes.


Broc

diangelo#67
12-09-2008, 08:36 PM
I'm sure dan from breezewood could help ya out with a place as for riders there are roughly 30,000 riders/racers on this site so I think your in the right place, Anyone on here could give it a few good ones, Few ? from me for you now. what size bike are you trying to test is it a MX or XC type bike. How much of a prototype is it I wouldn't want to launch this thing 100' with a one off frame?

dbc112
12-10-2008, 10:11 AM
It is an existing bike from hyosung 450 with a claimed 51 HP




I am now contacting a local dealer (MPG Motors) to see what can be arrange. This may go directly back to Hyosung for a donor bike who knows. Stay tuned... Most likely wont happen until the weather warms up and the moons align.


Good idea huh? I think this quad has some potential with the HP, and the fact that hyosung has produced SV motors.

54warrior
12-10-2008, 10:35 AM
http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/i_TE450S.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_02.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_01.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_03.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_04.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_05.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_06.jpg

Sjorge450R
12-10-2008, 08:56 PM
i would be down for it. Im from PA and wouldnt mind traveling to help out a new company.

Lehr 110
12-10-2008, 09:16 PM
Ill be willing to test it. Ive been racing since i was 6 and currently run the pro am class at the ATVA nationals. I also live in Pennsylvania.

SRH
12-10-2008, 09:37 PM
looks like a honzukiyamawaskiktm but one of the nicer looking knock offs ive seen, minus the rack

dbc112
12-11-2008, 07:19 AM
I have had a couple replys, make sure to PM me with your info...


I am still trying to work the dealer side... If this does happen, how do we get EXriders to post etc? I really want to work with the staff to make it official.

Me writing skillz suck.


Dan

12-11-2008, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by dbc112


here is what I am thinking..


3. Make reccomendations on suspension
4. At the track/trail , make suspension changes and re-review

I also need to get a dealership on board.

Chime in, what do you think?

Why do you need to make recomendations for the suspension? You might be shocked to find the suspension is fantastic.

I think you barking uo the wrong tree putting a post on here about a review, do you have the first clue about magazines reviewing things? General public don't simply ride a quad, change the suspension and write a few words about it and then present it to a magazine.

dbc112
12-11-2008, 12:18 PM
No clue, just want input. Why dont you make a suggestion on what to test rather than complain?

12-12-2008, 12:21 AM
Buddy, you are totally missing the point. You can test one of these all day and make recomendations etc etc. But where are you going to publish it?

Manufacturers pay big bucks to get features of there rides published in magazines, the people who work for magazines don't just wake up one morning and think "I know, I'll test the new hyosung ATV today".

And I'm not complaining at all, just seems you are off with the fairies and not thinking logically about this, anyway it's probably a pile of crap, it looks like a pile of crap and probably rides like one, if it was any good it wouldn't be named after something you order from a chinese takeaway.

RideRed84
12-12-2008, 07:09 AM
Is it really called a Rapter450?????

jacobw
12-12-2008, 07:53 AM
actually hyosung is not a chinese knockoff they make some quality products, suzuki uses them to make some of thier stuff they team up and hysosung manufactures it for them, much like kymco used to do for honda, you wonder why the kymco utes look similar to honda utes that is why honda used them to manufacture some of thier stuff.

dbc112
12-12-2008, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by Ikilla2
Buddy, you are totally missing the point. You can test one of these all day and make recomendations etc etc. But where are you going to publish it?

Manufacturers pay big bucks to get features of there rides published in magazines, the people who work for magazines don't just wake up one morning and think "I know, I'll test the new hyosung ATV today".

And I'm not complaining at all, just seems you are off with the fairies and not thinking logically about this, anyway it's probably a pile of crap, it looks like a pile of crap and probably rides like one, if it was any good it wouldn't be named after something you order from a chinese takeaway.


Buddy, Faires? GET OFF THE THREAD... You are adding nothing constructive at all.

I understand this in not a magazine review. This is meerly for a post within the forums, and the dealer (potential quad) is well aware. We are also potentially working with Hyosung to help develope a better product.

Ever work in business? I have for the past 15 years, and customer feedback is a large priority. Especially when developing a product. In fact, I involve my customers (large hospital systems) within my development process to prioritize our work and help set the correct focus and expectations.


Sooo.. Again this is not a magazine review, this is a forum post. And hopefully, the manifacture will engage in the process and utilize real world feedback from unbiased (non magazine, no revenue from Big 5) participants.


Sorry for the rant, I just cant stand people on the sideline trying to stop progress.

Scro
12-12-2008, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Ikilla2
Buddy, you are totally missing the point. You can test one of these all day and make recomendations etc etc. But where are you going to publish it?

Manufacturers pay big bucks to get features of there rides published in magazines, the people who work for magazines don't just wake up one morning and think "I know, I'll test the new hyosung ATV today".

And I'm not complaining at all, just seems you are off with the fairies and not thinking logically about this, anyway it's probably a pile of crap, it looks like a pile of crap and probably rides like one, if it was any good it wouldn't be named after something you order from a chinese takeaway.

I'm pretty sure Harlen wouldn't turn down a well prepared, well organized ride review to be "published" on the homepage. What's the point in being so negative about it?

Back on the thread topic - I think a review would be great, whether you get it published somewhere or just post it on here as a thread.

S.A.J
12-12-2008, 11:09 AM
i think itd be a GREAT idea,i think everybody would be curious as to how somthing like this quad would perform great idea man hopefully it all works out and we get to see what these things are made of!!!

Pappy
12-12-2008, 11:29 AM
1) Have the manufacture contact webmaster@atvriders.com to arrange a few units for us to test

2) Those units need to be production units and available for us for a period of no less then 90 days

3) The units will be turned over to me and I will arrange a test using various riders of varying skill and compile the findings

4) An unbiased review will be written and it will be published

Its a very easy process, it just takes the manufacture to step up and get the ball rolling. I am not aware of us using any outside sources for reviews as we take them pretty serious but I do know we would atleast look at anything presented to us.

dbc112
12-12-2008, 11:34 AM
Thanks pappy. I will forward on the information. Lets see if they step up to the plate.


Dan

54warrior
12-12-2008, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by RideRed84
Is it really called a Rapter450?????

I think it says "Rapier"

dbc112
12-12-2008, 12:24 PM
Good news, according to one of the suppliers, HYSOUNG will step up to the plate with a demo unit for the alloted time. I asked them to contact the email above from pappy to coordinate.


You see, anything can happen with a little elbow grease.


In terms of riders, time, location etc.. It all needs to be coordinated. I may tag along if not chosen as the "average" rider as part of the review.... Just to see what happens.


Very interesting indeed... If this does work out, I would love to see the local guy get some business. Takes b@lls to stick your neck out on new product.

S.A.J
12-13-2008, 09:23 AM
sounds great! so whats the approx. time frame on this review/test,3-4months more or less?

Which 450?
12-13-2008, 08:00 PM
it looks really nice! What is msrp? any idea?

Brauap
12-13-2008, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by 54warrior
http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/i_TE450S.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_02.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_01.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_03.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_04.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_05.jpg

http://www.hyosungmotorsusa.com/img/product/popup/function/TE450S_06.jpg

:eek2: :eek2: :eek: :eek2: :eek2:

That thing is FUGLY!! It really needs to have an Aluminum frame (esp. because everyone else does except for honda..)

It looks like they took a lil from each company!

Honda- Seat/Shocks
Suzuki-Plastics
Kawasaki-Plastics/headlight
Yamaha-Engine

Where is it made..? It looks like a Chinese POS..

It also needs to have the turn signals removable.. instead of them being welded to the frame.. I don't think this thing will EVER catch on.. like Kymco or w/e

ProspectorJim
12-13-2008, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Brauap
:eek2: :eek2: :eek: :eek2: :eek2:

That thing is FUGLY!! It really needs to have an Aluminum frame (esp. because everyone else does except for honda..)

It looks like they took a lil from each company!

Honda- Seat/Shocks
Suzuki-Plastics
Kawasaki-Plastics/headlight
Yamaha-Engine

Where is it made..? It looks like a Chinese POS..

It also needs to have the turn signals removable.. instead of them being welded to the frame.. I don't think this thing will EVER catch on.. like Kymco or w/e

Thats what the test is supposed to accomplish, to see if this is just another Chinese junk bike or if its a cheaper alternative to the other 450s. Also I'm assuming that the Model in the pictures is for other countries that have road legal ATVs. The US model probably doesn't have the turn signals or racks.

Brauap
12-13-2008, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by ProspectorJim
The US model probably doesn't have the turn signals or racks.

Hopfully!!!

Also.. I was just looking.. look at the grab bar.. it looks to be not even half an inch wide!! ;)

Everything on there looks cheep! But I really like the bumper.. haha

12-14-2008, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Brauap
Hopfully!!!

Also.. I was just looking.. look at the grab bar.. it looks to be not even half an inch wide!! ;)

Everything on there looks cheep! But I really like the bumper.. haha

Brauap, what you said before is not true.

KTM, Yamaha (regular YFZ), Suzuki, and Honda all use Steel frames still.

How does it look cheap chinese? Honestly, it doesn't look as cheap or half-@ssed as I thought.

Fuji engine, Liquid cooled, built in speedometer, a-arm guards, bumper, and nerfs all for under $4999? Sounds like a bargain to me.

Honestly, I think it may still have some flaws (shocks) but has GREAT potential. If they test it and it's pretty good, i might consider buying one brand new in the future.

12-14-2008, 03:04 PM
# Powerful 449cc, single cylinder, liquid cooled, DOHC, 4 valve engine produces 51HP at 7,500 rpm.

o Lightweight and durable 35mm intake and 28mm exhaust valves provide precise valve control at high rpm.

o Ultra-compact, lightweight, high-tensile steel frame designed for low vibration, optimum rigidity and maximum durability.

o Compact and durable five speed transmission with reverse deliver all that power to the rear tires with maximum efficiency.

o Powerful four valve engine and 378-pounds dry weight give the MTX-450R a leading power-to-weight ratio.

o Reliable, pushbutton electric start in any gear adds extra convenience.

o Double A-Arm Front Suspension with adjustable gas reservoir shocks deliver superb travel and precise handling.

o Rear suspension system is linkage-type, controlled by an adjustable shock with 9.4 inches of travel.

o Lightweight front and rear master cylinders, combined with twin powerful front discs with twin-piston calipers and single rear disc, deliver incredible stopping power with progressive control and feel.

o Multi-function instrument display.

o Cool LED taillight ensure the MTX-450R is highly visible from behind.

o MSRP $5,999.00 plus freight and dealer prep.
o
o EPA & CARB certified



TYPE



SPORT ATV

ENGINE TYPE


449CC, 4-STROKE, 1-CYL

BORE AND STROKE (mm)
96 X 62

COMPRESSION RATIO


11.8 : 1

COOLING


LIQUID

IGNITION


CDI

TRANSMISSION


5 SPEED W/ MANUAL CLUTH + REVERSE

FINAL DRIVE


CHAIN

STARTING SYSTEM
ELECTRIC

FUEL DELIVERY
MIKUNI CARBURETOR / 42mm

FRONT SUSPENSION


INDEPENDENT DOUBLE A-ARM

REAR SUSPENSION


LINKAGE TYPE

FRONT BRAKE


DUAL DISC

REAR BRAKE


DISC

FRONT TIRE


22 X 7-10

REAR TIRE


20 X 10-9

DIMENSIONS (LxWxH)


72" X 46" X 45"

SEAT HEIGHT


34.8"

WHEELBASE


49"

FUEL CAPACITY (GAL)


2.9

DRY WEIGHT


378 LBS

WARRANTY


3 YEAR POWERTRAIN, 12 MONTHS ALL PARTS

COLORS
BLACK, RED

12-14-2008, 03:25 PM
Pretty cool video of it.. at around :50 he starts getting some respectable air on it.

Im starting to like it more and more. Me and my dad are gonna head to a dealer one of these days to test ride one.

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12-14-2008, 03:36 PM
A vid at the dunes. Looks like it has some balls (even though he's running lean)

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k4f5x0r
12-14-2008, 04:02 PM
that does seem like it has some punch to it. now im actually pretty interested. it deffinatley seems liike its worth testing.

and if thatsa stock exhaust it sounds nice as hell for a stock exhaust :eek2:

diangelo#67
12-14-2008, 05:46 PM
How about I run these things in some nationals? in one class or the other

Ruby Soho
12-14-2008, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by diangelo#67
How about I run these things in some nationals? in one class or the other

agreed, id like to see one hold up in a long hard race..