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MX26
12-15-2002, 06:29 PM
Greenville MX broke my Ohlins today :( Darn track.

MX26
12-15-2002, 06:31 PM
This guy didn't have such a good day either...

MX26
12-15-2002, 06:33 PM
Daniel and I got alot of good riding time in though... Too bad it was all on the mosquito killer..Oops, I mean.. 440EX

redrider ex
12-15-2002, 06:33 PM
i love that honda pulling POS

Ryan
12-15-2002, 06:36 PM
Thats what you get from Ohlins. Get some Axis or Elka. Sweet pictures though.

HillBillY
12-15-2002, 07:07 PM
dang that Daniel must be a good rider, looked like he knows what he is doing!!! Sorry about your shock man. That sucks

MX26
12-15-2002, 07:24 PM
Yeah.. But he's a beginner. I was doing the same jump and staying lower... Which makes ya faster ;)

MX26
12-15-2002, 08:36 PM
a couple more pics..

MX26
12-15-2002, 08:40 PM
Another.. The Predator had to go home early due to a carb problem. Not sure what it was.. but it was pouring gas out the overflow.

MX26
12-15-2002, 08:44 PM
My PIMPED/Slammed 250R :)

MX26
12-15-2002, 08:48 PM
Here's Daniel(HillbillY) going over a small double..

MX26
12-15-2002, 08:52 PM
Me.. Same Double.. 1st ride on the 440EX

airheadedduner
12-16-2002, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Ryan88
Thats what you get from Ohlins. Get some Axis or Elka. Sweet pictures though.
:rolleyes:

Anyway.....that sucks man. How did you do that??????:eek:
Thoose look like an older set.

MX26
12-16-2002, 07:04 AM
Well, I was hitting the table top on the 3rd picture.. Landing it very clean too. I jumped it about 5 or 6 times then noticed my wheel was wobbling something terrible. Anyways, I hit it a couple more times then looked down and saw that the shock was broken.

Yes, it is an old set. Elka's next?

airheadedduner
12-16-2002, 12:03 PM
If they are what you want then get them. I am going to TCS even if they are more expensive. I rode a set once and they where awesome. The bike I rode sat maybe 8-9 inches of the ground but once you got airborn thoose things streched way out and soaked up the hits. I may just put moto 440 springs on my ohlin's and see how that works first.

QuadTrix6
12-16-2002, 01:58 PM
nice, how do you like the predater ?

MX26
12-16-2002, 04:46 PM
Yeah, I like Elka's. I think I'll try to sell my stereo system to someone and buy either Housers or Elka's. What should I get 1st?

MX26
12-16-2002, 04:47 PM
Oh.. I didn't even sit on the Predator. The thing broke before we got a chance to really even talk to him.

2k2-300exnj
12-16-2002, 04:57 PM
sux about the shocks... i just made a post in the suspension forum about the tcs or elka prob... but i dont even kno if im gettin them... it is titled where can i get tcs if u wanna check it out once it gets some replies

MX26
12-16-2002, 07:08 PM
Thanks. Im positive I want Elka's though :)

haydug
12-16-2002, 07:15 PM
Hey man, I've rode with both shocks, go with TCS, they are way better. I have them on my 400ex and Cannondale, and LOVE them. Let me know, I can get you a set cheap!!

HillBillY
12-17-2002, 08:52 PM
Hey what can you get a set of TCS for?

airheadedduner
12-17-2002, 10:51 PM
$850 for fully adjustable triple rate SCS(what TCS calls there zero preload set up). I am sure you can get elka's for less then that but after bombing a couple jumps on the set I rode(which happened to be an older set) I am sold on them!!:cool:

2k2-300exnj
12-18-2002, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by airheadedduner
$850 for fully adjustable triple rate SCS(what TCS calls there zero preload set up). I am sure you can get elka's for less then that but after bombing a couple jumps on the set I rode(which happened to be an older set) I am sold on them!!:cool:
i geuss it is personal preference because i have heard like 5 people say this already and has gone bak and forth so far elka has 1 more vote than the tcs im not sure what to go with i think im gonna try elkas seem to be getting better as more people get them... although tcs is expeirnced a little more :confused: :confused: :confused: :huh :huh :huh

what do i do!?

airheadedduner
12-18-2002, 11:47 PM
You gotta remember that Elka is not a newbie to the shock business. They have been building shocks for sno-cross racers for years.

2k2-300exnj
12-19-2002, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by airheadedduner
You gotta remember that Elka is not a newbie to the shock business. They have been building shocks for sno-cross racers for years.
i was not aware of that actually thanks for the info

stocktires
12-19-2002, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by airheadedduner
You gotta remember that Elka is not a newbie to the shock business. They have been building shocks for sno-cross racers for years.

I didnt know that either...kewl

I'll still go with PEP or TCS. I like my ohlins rear! Very nice and smooth shock, but its valved a hair soft (and Im 139lbs!!!). As long as I land everything nicely they are awesome! And ride about as low as a zps or scs shock.
but anyway hey MX26, what kinda system ya selling? :D

MX26
12-19-2002, 08:54 PM
stocktires -

Legacy LA970 1200W 2 channel amp
2 Sony Xplod(not Walmart Xplode's;)) in kustom boxes
A few Cuspid Audio tweeters ;)

$300.

I'm not sure if I want to sell it just yet, but I do need some income for the changes I'm gonna make on my R

d-14 rider 27
12-19-2002, 10:40 PM
You gotta remember that Elka is not a newbie to the shock business. They have been building shocks for sno-cross racers for years. then why are they having so many problems??????? PEP, Ohlins, Axis all the way tcs is sweet too

QuadTrix6
12-20-2002, 10:20 AM
sno cross and MX are too very different things....im going with PEP they got a lot of MX experience and Creech rides them, he even rode them before he got sponsored. :eek:

2k2-300exnj
12-20-2002, 01:45 PM
they arent haing any problems that i have heard of and if they are good enough for the guys at the quadshop they are good enough for me... and they could run anything

MX26
12-20-2002, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by d-14 rider 27
then why are they having so many problems??????? PEP, Ohlins, Axis all the way tcs is sweet too

Ohlins? Why don't you go ahead and put Works in there too?

d-14 rider 27
12-20-2002, 08:38 PM
ohlins makes damm good shocks i think, maybe not the best performing, but i think they are tuff, this is the first one i ever seen broke

Bean
12-25-2002, 05:44 PM
Ohlins has had the best racer of all time running thier shocks, Gary Denton, so they had some feedback on their shocks, im sure they know what their doing, its people that spread the rumors that give them such a bad rep, there probably was a reason that Dale put Ohlins on their bikes, and not Axis, Elka, etc, i am not bashing, just saying, Ohlins is a very high quality shock, give Farr a set, and i would BET my R that everyone and thier grandma would be running Ohlins, JMO

MX26
12-25-2002, 05:53 PM
No. Ohlins does not offer a no-preload style shock that has a chance of competiting with other top quality suspension builders today. Top racers and just about everyone that follows the race suspension world knows that it would take a ZPS style shock to win a championship. Yes, many 10 year olds would have their daddies buy them Ohlins because of their 'hero' having them.

MrP
12-25-2002, 07:02 PM
MX26- Ohlins can be made into zero preload.


Nate Leverenz won 4-stroke A with Ohlins.

d-14 rider 27
12-25-2002, 07:12 PM
ohlins may not offer the zps setup, but mark b, or some suspension people could do the conversion. an ohlins is a good quality base to start with. plus my buddy just ordered a set of mild zps ohlins long travels for his kawazuki. i dont know what state their u.s. head quarters are in, but you dont need to call sweden or wherever their made

d-14 rider 27
12-25-2002, 07:16 PM
why does it take a zps style shock to win a championship? in my opinion zps sucks. almost everyone likes it but i absolutely hate that setup. i went with limited mass just like baldwin suggested i do since im a bigger guy. zps are an A-pro style. ltd mass is B-pro zps are just too unpredictable on jumps. you have to ride a zps harder to make it work for you.

MX26
12-25-2002, 07:27 PM
Yeah, I know you can get ZPS Ohlins, but in my opinion they are not up to the level of other shocks.

To be competitive, you must be riding hard anyways. I ride hard whenever/wherever I go.

d-14 rider 27
12-25-2002, 10:02 PM
ok:rolleyes: ill just keep making mine easy to ride/go fast on

Live2Ride300
12-25-2002, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by d-14 rider 27
why does it take a zps style shock to win a championship? in my opinion zps sucks. almost everyone likes it but i absolutely hate that setup. i went with limited mass just like baldwin suggested i do since im a bigger guy. zps are an A-pro style. ltd mass is B-pro zps are just too unpredictable on jumps. you have to ride a zps harder to make it work for you.

What is limited mass? What are the pros and cons of having limited mass over zps? Thanx

d-14 rider 27
12-25-2002, 10:46 PM
limited mass is a cross between a race shock and zps. its got a little more top spring than a zps. usually dont sit as low as zps, but more predictable, and easier to ride IMO. the fact that i think zps sucks is only my opinion. tell a pro that zps sucks. and im just sayin that neither me, nor most of the rest of the guys reading these posts are pros, im sure a lot of us are fast, but im a local... how should i say it "B plus" rider i should go to A in michigan, at least thats what im hearing, but im gonna sandbag so i can stay in b for nationals. what im getting at is personal preference. and my preference was to do what mark baldwin told me to do :D i think for all the bigger guys who are b-a riders, dont rule out limited mass. they last longer than zps too (not working oil as much) but hey like i said its my opinion about zps and there wasnt ever any flame intended.

Live2Ride300
12-25-2002, 10:57 PM
So if you weigh more then you might want limited mass? So all it really is , is the 3rd spring is a little stiffer then a zps spring. But not as stiff as regular triple rate shocks?

airheadedduner
12-25-2002, 11:39 PM
Ohlin's are as close to ZPS as Elka's are. The ohlin's that are on the moto 440 are kinda like the PEP Limited mass set up. They can be converted to full ZPS too, any shock can. I have had both Ohlin's and works and there is no way works rates anywhere near to them. Ohlin's are very high quality shocks, and for years have been offering features that other companies are just starting to offer and are being praised for even though they are not the first to bring it to the table. The adjustability of them are mind boogleing. Not even axis offers 40 clicks of low speed compression or 40 of highspeed compression for their shocks.

Buzzsaw
12-26-2002, 08:00 PM
I've got some sweet stock shock I'll will trade you ,if you get me a horse to ride in the trail ride.

MX26
12-27-2002, 05:11 PM
The Autumn Trails ride? I dont have horses.. C'mon.. What do I look like?