Pics of 300ex with 400ex a-arms,250r shocks,etc.

[swamprider7]

I just got done with my 300ex suspension conversion so I thought I would post some pics. The parts that I used were: 400ex a-arms, 250r Shocks, 400ex tie rods, and 400ex brake lines. I did not relocate my shock mounts and yes bolted up fine. I haven't had much seat time on it yet but I can definitely say that it is a much better ride than the tiny 300ex shocks. It does sit higher now but still seems to handle very good. The only downside so far is that it is slightly harder to steer at slower speeds. It is not enough to bother me though. Here are some pics:

[swamprider7]

before

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half done

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all done

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next to a raptor

[swamprider7]

Let me know what ya think. Any ?'s, etc...

[mod300ex]

it shuldent b sitting that high........i was just foolin around befor w/ mine i dinet weld the new piece on and if its like that high it will ruin ur calipwer thing the tierods connect to cuz htere bent like / i cant explain it that good

[toby400ex]

those are 250r shocks?????, that thing sits really high, you will noitce that the front end goes up really easy. Yeah i noticed that when i used a durablue lowering kit it made it sit real high and made it hard to steer. When i made my own mount the steering got alot easier.

[mod300ex]

can someone say what i meant when i said it will ruin stuff toby i tihnk u know what i mena when its to high its squisheing the tierod ends

[swamprider7]

those are 250r shocks?????, that thing sits really high, you will noitce that the front end goes up really easy.

Yes they are 250r shocks. They came off of a 1988 250r. I am still probably gonna relocate my mounts. Speedbump is running the same setup as me and he has had no problems. with tie rod ends that i know of.

[swamprider7]

any other input, comments?

[toby400ex]

i was just thinking, they looked newer than a 250r. And the only thing i think it could damage is maybe the ball joints.

[Pvt. Maggot]

If I Do The Swap Am I Going To Have To Change Break Lines? Or Can I Use Stock? :confused:

[mod300ex]

u can use stock

[swamprider7]

It is possible to use stock brake lines but you can't fasten them to the a-arms like the are stock because they are too short. You can only attach them at the caliper. By using them this way, it is makes them much more likely to get caught on a stick or something and get damaged. Using 400ex brakelines is much nicer. I got mine for $15 shipped to my house and the were only used for one hour.

[mod300ex]

zip ties only coast like 1 dollar for like 50 ?so pay a $1 and b done w/ it i used my brackets and 1 zip tie though....

[250rmike]

u might want to add the frame mounts the reason it is hard to stear is cause everything is at such an ngle that it is rubbing together and causing it to be stiff.

[250xex]

I not really sure what a lowering kit does, but would it lower it so it doesn't sit that high?Thx

[Live2Ride300]

Here is a pic of mine, my shocks are 14 3/4 inches long by the way.

[swamprider7]

It doesn't steer much harder than stock. I am still thinking of moving my shock mounts though and I probably will.

[bigbadbrad]

how do you like those realaters? i am thinkin about geting a set

[jay's 300]

I was thinking about doing that b/c my cousin has some extra R parts laying around like a-arms and shocks. I was wondering does everything just bolt right up or do you have to have extra stuff to bolt them on and what is the ride difference like?

Thanks :D

[swamprider7]

how do you like those realaters? i am thinkin about geting a set

Unbeliveable traction. The best Mud/Snow/Loose dirt/Sand tires that I have ever used. They hook up in any conditions. They also wear like iron. They are very heavy though and definately rob some horsepower (thats why I have a set of 20" razrs coming for mx,etc.). If you don't do much jumping and mostly trail ride, these would be great tires for you.



I was thinking about doing that b/c my cousin has some extra R parts laying around like a-arms and shocks. I was wondering does everything just bolt right up or do you have to have extra stuff to bolt them on and what is the ride difference like?

Yes everything just bolts right up if you use 400ex a-arms with 250r shocks and 400ex tie rods. If you use 250r a-arms with 250r shocks, you must move your shock mounts because the 250r a-arms are shorter. Ride is much better than stock. Hope that helps.

[99'300EX]

it looks high compared to the raptor but i guess if it handles good, theres nothing to worry about..

[Live2Ride300]

Swamprider - you might notice alot of push in the front end now.

[swamprider7]

Yes I have noticed some front end push. That is why i am going to move the shock mounts.

[RideRed04]

Did you try the 300ex shocks with the 400ex arms? No big deal to bolt up, wonder how it would work? I am sure they would bottom pretty easy, but maybe using them and getting some works down the line would be the way to go.

[Live2Ride300]

I have ridden my quad w/ the 400 a-arms and stock 300 shocks, and it lowers it quite a bit and it handles great actually, they wont bottom out as easy as u think either, u can jump them, but not that high tho or you will bottom.

[2k2-300exnj]

i need to kno EXACTLY how much wider +1 400ex a-arms are going to be on my 300 i want to buy new shocks for them and need to kno what to tell them... make it more simple then saying +1 400 arms and take the chance of them screwing up...

[Regulator 250X]

Swamp man you really need to move the shock mounts up a couple inches other wise you are going to do damage to one thing or another. I have 250R a-arms and shocks on my X and they are great except the top a-arms are straight so the ball joint doesnt sit parallel to the ground, it is kind of a stressed angle on the ball joint. Here is a pic of my front end setup...

[2k2-300exnj]

Originally posted by Live2Ride300
Here is a pic of mine, my shocks are 14 3/4 inches long by the way.
14 3/4 so is that the length i should tell whoever i buy the shox from i have the 400ex+1s same mount position... how long are the stock 300ex shocks? like 13? and the 400s are like 16 rite?

[Live2Ride300]

400s are 16 inches. Im not really sure if that is the exact measurement you want. They should know the right length, well I know works will know the right length, im pretty sure its anywhere between 14.5 and 14.75

[2k2-300exnj]

whats a half an inch? lol i will tell them 14.5 on the safe side haha

[2k2-300exnj]

anyone else have some pix of action shots with their front end?

[tants]

250r aarms also fit on a 300ex correct?

[SpeedBump]

Originally posted by 250rmike
u might want to add the frame mounts the reason it is hard to stear is cause everything is at such an ngle that it is rubbing together and causing it to be stiff.


The reason isn't because of rubbing. It steers a little harder because the STEERING ANGLE has changed. When the front end is raised, it flattens out the steering angle. Ever ride a chopper motorcycle? turns hard as ****. ever ride a sport bike, steers super easy. it is the steering angle that determins the way it feels steering. wanna test the theory, just bolt on a set of 23 inch tires out back, and drop to 20in in front, the steering will get smooth and easy again. The bike was designed with a specific angle. that is what they call geometry. if anyone else agrees or disagrees, let us know. I do agree it would be better with relocated mounts, but I am not cuttin my frame, I am chopping up the lower a-arms. I plan on doing it this spring, too cold now. don't want to cut and weld in the garage. I have been riding on mine all summer long. Not a problem yet, balljoints still tight, and the a-arms came from a hard ridden 1999 400ex. Heck, I even had to heat and bend one upper back, ( hard crash took it out, bent WAY bad.) I actually melted the plastic ball joint cap inside, it still works fine. I know, I know, that not good, but this is the trial run. I got em dirt cheap, ($40). If I keep the quad, I will go with +1 wide +1 ahead 400ex arms.

[Buzzsaw]

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action shot

[87HONDATRX250X]

Will this work? +3 400ex a-arms with 400ex shocks and maby tie rods and brake lines?