tire question

[bfrank450R]

which tires are better for trail riding: razor 2's, or holeshot HD's

[atvnut22]

ive never rode on holeshots but razr 2's up front and razr1's in the back are awesome

[bama06300ex]

this is my turf bfrank, get off here... jk. I been thinkin, I might sell you those GNCC rears if you still want em, but I wanna keep the wheels. I think the only difference is gonna be cost and weight between the HD/RZRs. Razors weigh a little more, but prolly not enough to make a difference.

[Scro]

HD's are heavier than Razr2's. Also the sidewall on the HD is very thin, even though it is a 6-ply tire. The HD's hook up well, but be prepared to put a few plugs in the sidewall if you do any aggressive riding.

[bama06300ex]

not bein a smart a**, just curious... both of them are 6-ply, the razors have a thicker sidewall, which is what lead me to assume the razor would be heavier. If they are made up of the same compound, and the razors have just a little thicker sidewall, what is it that makes the HD heavier?

[XCRacer236]

HOLESHOT GNCC'S!!!
20's in the rear, 21's in front!

[Scro]

Well, I don't know:p

[86250rrider]

heres my input :

i have used holeshots in the past...all got sidewall punctures.

i run maxxis razr2 fronts in 23"6 ply and either grooved razr 6 ply or razr2 rears both in 20" 6 ply


the regular razr 6 plys hook better than razr2s in my opinion in dirt ,and when grooved are even better. but they are prone to sidewall damage . not as bad as itp holeshots but enough to be annoying.

the raz2 rears are a little more prone to spinning in wet grass and wet clay conditions but are better in mud than regular razrs are. but....they are super durable as far as wear in rocks,road,sidewall punctures have never happened to me on razr2 rears..ever. im pretty hard on tires too. with good suspension and a precision i hit stuff head on and go!



keep an eye out for the maxxis ballance tire to come out for gncc soon. im gonna get a set and see how they stack-up.

[bfrank450R]

this may be a dumb question, but whats the purpose of running a front tire thats so much bigger than the rear

[86250rrider]

for ease of rolling over logs,undercut creek banks,big rocks,guys who are stuck with 21" front tires,etc. IT WORKS GREAT !!:D

[bama06300ex]

like said before, the bigger tire gives a better "angle of approach" when going over rocks and logs, etc. bigger the tire, faster you'll fly over rough terrain.

[86250rrider]

Originally posted by bama06300ex
like said before, the bigger tire gives a better "angle of approach" when going over rocks and logs, etc. bigger the tire, faster you'll fly over rough terrain.


YEP:D

[hondaracer_34]

ive had a set of both..i would go with the HD's. i never had to put any plugs in mine. they are both a great tire, but if i had to choose again, i would go with HD's. good luck

[bama06300ex]

You see how hard I ride bfrank, and I've never had to plug a sidewall. *knocking on wood* Gotta few in between my lugs, but they were all from nails/screws. And I really like the GNCCs too. I'm prolly gonna put the rears on next time we ride, just cause I think they'll really dig.

[86250rrider]

i have never got a flat in a raz2 tire yet...front or rear.knock on wood. except the broken,jagged limb that was behind some foilage i hit on the 250r at about 30 mph .it almost made me crash i hit it so hard. thank god for the dampner. it cut a 2" slit in the side wall. that would have happened to any tire though. you do have to shave the little nipples off maxiss tire near the bead or they can leak. the itp tires i had seemed to pop off the bead pretty easy also. but that was in the 90,s though.

[bama06300ex]

I would think that the administrator of this place (ATVriders.com) would have a respectable opinion on just about any part. They built a XC 450R, all-out, race ready, bad*** machine, and choose the HDs front and rear. Didnt go into why/ whynot, although they did put tireballs in them, I think would have done that with ANY tire they put on the bike. By the way, they put a WHOLE LOT of money in that thing!! Its really nice!!

[86250rrider]

OK :rolleyes:

[bama06300ex]

I didnt mean anything by that, just pointing it out. And actually, I just noticed that that thread is 3 years old! Wow, oops! But anyway, wasnt directing that toward you, just making a comment. Chill :cool:

[86250rrider]

keep an eye out for the new maxxis gncc tire to come out soon !!! gotta try em out.

[bama06300ex]

I really like most of their products and can only imagine what they have up their sleeve! I just re uped on tires, so I wont be getting a set, but would love to try em out. Do they have a picture of them out yet?

[86250rrider]

not that i know of....i kinda got an inside scoop:D

[atvnut22]

Originally posted by bama06300ex
I just noticed that that thread is 3 years old!
its like 3 days old

[bfrank450R]

kirk your a nerd

[bama06300ex]

Actually, the thread was started on " 12-14-2004 08:24 PM". Or so it says at the bottom left hand corner of the first post. Unless I'm mistaking the date for something else.

[atvnut22]

somethings wrong, when i looked at the first post it says "10-14-2008 11:59 AM". thats weird:confused:

[bama06300ex]

must be a conspiracy

[vAnS_77]

IMO, I don't know how the maxis hook up. I had H-D's on my 400ex and they hooked up way much for the track. I could barley get the quad to slide at stock stance. I'm a big boy too, that says alot if you want them for the trail only.